Nba a big fat dud?

[ggoose25]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17354630/

The NBA may have bred a cult of personality, but this writer seems to think its ok with stars like Jordan and Bird but not with Kobe and Bron? Sounds like this old man is sipping some major haterade.

[ponky]

this guy's pretty bad because first his sub-headliner talks about how teamwork was traded away for cult of personality then he goes on to focus on a couple of main guys in his articles, lebron, dirk, wade, shaq. it's also terrible because

1. the west seedings are not set in stone, especially now that the mavs have three guys injured and the suns are not far behind at all

2. the knicks may be terrible but they're getting better and certainly not the team to bash if you want to look for a team to bash in the east...try the celtics, at least the knicks are pushing for an 8th seed along with the nets

3. he's bitching about teams like the heat, cavs and lakers who obviously have THE superstars with the flashy hollywood status and bemoaning the fact that there's no golden age because these guys and their teams are not living up to the hype...what about the mavericks, the suns, the spurs, the raptors (c'mon they're better since the new year), the jazz and even the rockets who have another big name in t-mac who has been key to keeping that team in the game? the mavs are lead by a lanky german, the spurs are quiet and not flashy and in a smaller market, same for the jazz and the jazz don't really have any big names, the rockets have an asian guy taking center stage on that team, the suns have the little white dude who takes too much of the spotlight, the raptors are a bunch of europeans led by a quiet, polite young guy from dallas...this is what he's really bitching about, he gets this rather than the larger than life icons he wants wade, lebron, kobe to be

[THE SIXTH MAN]

this guy's pretty bad because first his sub-headliner talks about how teamwork was traded away for cult of personality then he goes on to focus on a couple of main guys in his articles, lebron, dirk, wade, shaq. it's also terrible because

1. the west seedings are not set in stone, especially now that the mavs have three guys injured and the suns are not far behind at all

2. the knicks may be terrible but they're getting better and certainly not the team to bash if you want to look for a team to bash in the east...try the celtics, at least the knicks are pushing for an 8th seed along with the nets

3. he's bitching about teams like the heat, cavs and lakers who obviously have THE superstars with the flashy hollywood status and bemoaning the fact that there's no golden age because these guys and their teams are not living up to the hype...what about the mavericks, the suns, the spurs, the raptors (c'mon they're better since the new year), the jazz and even the rockets who have another big name in t-mac who has been key to keeping that team in the game? the mavs are lead by a lanky german, the spurs are quiet and not flashy and in a smaller market, same for the jazz and the jazz don't really have any big names, the rockets have an asian guy taking center stage on that team, the suns have the little white dude who takes too much of the spotlight, the raptors are a bunch of europeans led by a quiet, polite young guy from dallas...this is what he's really bitching about, he gets this rather than the larger than life icons he wants wade, lebron, kobe to be
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[joeyjfive]

this guy's pretty bad because first his sub-headliner talks about how teamwork was traded away for cult of personality then he goes on to focus on a couple of main guys in his articles, lebron, dirk, wade, shaq. it's also terrible because

1. the west seedings are not set in stone, especially now that the mavs have three guys injured and the suns are not far behind at all

2. the knicks may be terrible but they're getting better and certainly not the team to bash if you want to look for a team to bash in the east...try the celtics, at least the knicks are pushing for an 8th seed along with the nets

3. he's bitching about teams like the heat, cavs and lakers who obviously have THE superstars with the flashy hollywood status and bemoaning the fact that there's no golden age because these guys and their teams are not living up to the hype...what about the mavericks, the suns, the spurs, the raptors (c'mon they're better since the new year), the jazz and even the rockets who have another big name in t-mac who has been key to keeping that team in the game? the mavs are lead by a lanky german, the spurs are quiet and not flashy and in a smaller market, same for the jazz and the jazz don't really have any big names, the rockets have an asian guy taking center stage on that team, the suns have the little white dude who takes too much of the spotlight, the raptors are a bunch of europeans led by a quiet, polite young guy from dallas...this is what he's really bitching about, he gets this rather than the larger than life icons he wants wade, lebron, kobe to be


Wow, Thats was very nicely put Mavs fan. I agree 100% with what you just said, you made some great points about the Knicks and Raptors. The Knicks are vastly improving and becoming a respectable team. And the Raptors are playing extremely well as of late, although that wasnt the case against the Spurs last nite.

[RonMexico]

I've never heard of this Kobe guy before. Who is this kid?

[Extra Stout]

Celizic just wrote a lazy article. The problem is not that the NBA lacks enough good team play or defense. A comparison of the effort level in the typical NBA games versus what it was 25 years ago is shocking -- back then, players on defense would just stand and watch, maybe put a hand up.

The problem is two-fold:

1) The elite teams are not in major markets. The last big-market powerhouse was the Shaq-Kobe Lakers. The last big-market powerhouse in the East was Jordan's Bulls ten years ago. The Knicks have sucked for six years. The Celtics have sucked almost continuously for more than 10 years. San Antonio, Dallas, Detroit, and Phoenix are in flyover country with no marketable superstars.

2) The pre-ordained media darlings haven't won championships. When people hear that LeBron, Carmelo, and Kobe are the league's superstars, they want to see their teams at the top of the standings. Instead, well-rounded teams, often with unmarketable foreigners, sit at the top. When Celizic laments the lack of teamwork, that is a cop-out. What he really wants to see is great teamwork on particular teams in support of the pre-ordained superstars.

It is easier to rehash the lazy line about undisciplined modern NBA ballas than to acknowledge the shallow truth about what attracts the casual fan and what makes an NBA writer's job easy. Economic parity is great for the league as a whole, and but the NBA always will be a "dud" unless the Finals feature Kobe's Lakers against LeBron's Knicks year in and year out.

[trueD]

Can you say "curmudgeon"? :lol

Yeah ... but try to spell it without help from our friends Merriam & Webster.

[RonMexico]

Blatantly ignores that Wade has won a title