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Mixability
02-28-2007, 04:52 PM
Kinda long, didn't see it posted before. But basically a principal can't pass her certification test after 36 times, but SAISD doesn't see it as a problem. If the kids are required to pass the TAKS in 3 tries, then this dumbass doesn't need a 37th chance. :pctoss

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=7e430cea-2469-4697-8985-c92d6af927ac

REACT: Educators Who Didn't Make the Grade
Last Update: Feb 28, 2007 3:26 PM

Posted By: Mandi Johnston

Still waiting to hear if your child passed the TAKS test? As every parent knows, if they don't pass it, they don't move on to the next grade. A News 4 WOAI Trouble Shooters investigation uncovered that some teachers and principals are not making the grade, but still moving up the chain of command.

Why do educators get so many chances to pass their test compared to your kids? How do their failing grades affect your kids' education? Plus, what may change because of our Trouble Shooters investigation.

Leading up to the TAKS test, it's all about prepping, pep rallies and pressure. That's all because every child must pass the TAKS test, or get left behind.

At Smith Elementary in the San Antonio School District, Principal Elizabeth Rojas pumped up her kids to pass the state exam last week. It turns out Principal Rojas has not passed her own test. She's taken the state exam required to be a principal, and failed, 36 times. That's more than any other educator in the state.

Unlike a student who fails, principal Rojas didn't get left behind. The district promoted her to principal two years ago, even though she still had not passed the required test, failing it dozens of times while she was a Vice-Principal.

Trouble Shooter Brian Collister asked SAISD's spokeswoman, "Was the district aware she failed 36 times?"

Carmen Vasquez-Gonzalez said, "No, the district was not aware." SAISD said it was aware that Rojas only has a temporary certificate to be a principal. Educators are allowed to be in jobs while they attempt to pass their tests. Rojas's certificate runs out next month.

Collister asked, "Is the district okay that she has failed 36 times?"

Gonzalez replied, "Well, I don't think she's ok."

Collister added, "You hired her and put her there."

Gonzalez said, "Yes, we hired her, and put her there because you have to look specifically at that individual campus. That individual was bringing some leadership skills that the test doesn't really cover."

That test is made up of multiple choice questions and hypothetical scenarios a principal might face. The overwhelming majority of principals pass it on the first few attempts according to the state board for teacher certification.

"For me, it's tough," explained Rojas to the Trouble Shooters. She said even though she has both a Bachelors and Masters degree, and is enrolled in a program to help her pass that test, she just has not been able to tackle it.

Rojas told us, "I go into the testing situation feeling the anxiety of...throwing up, nervousness...knowing that the job that I have is on the line based on that one test."

That may sound familiar to parents of kids who have a hard time passing the TAKS test, but they only get three chances and must pass to move on to the next grade.

The school district is quick to point out that TAKS scores at Smith have improved under Rojas, which raises another question.

"If your students can pass the TAKS test and do so well, why can't you pass yours?" Collister asked Rojas.

"We're working on it," she said.

The fact that their kids only have three chances to pass the big test and their principal has taken 36 times to pass her big test doesn't seem to bother a small group of parents who were all hand picked by the principal to be at the school when we showed up for our sit-down interview.

Mary Johnson said, "To me, I don't care if it takes her a hundred times for her to pass the test because to me, she is the best we can have here at this school."

Stephanie Jones added, "I don't care if she has not passed 36 times. It doesn't prove that she is unable to do as she has done."

We showed Rojas's test scores to the head of the State Teachers' Union, Donna Hascke.

Hascke said, "I can't even imagine that, especially if you've had the experience of being a principal. You've been a teacher prior to that. I just can't even imagine that scenario, at all."

That scenario happens more often then you might think. Our investigation found dozens of area teachers and principals who have not passed their tests after dozens of tries. Yet, they're still in the classroom with your kids.

"I think teachers need to pass that test, and if they don't what's the problem if they can't pass it in 2 or 3 times. Why not?" said Hascke.

Collister asked Hascke, "So, they should get pulled out of those jobs?"

"Could be that they need to be re-directed to another area of education other than teaching. There are other things that they can do," explained Hascke.

Take Theresa Balderas, for example. She is the Assistant Principal at Gallardo Elementary in the Southside ISD. Balderas has taken the principal exam, and failed, 19 times.

To top that off, she has no certificate to be a principal because her temporary one expired a year ago. She declined our request for an interview and wouldn't comment when we caught up with her.

Southside officials declined to answer questions on camera. Instead a spokesman read a statement explaining why Balderas is still in her job.

Jorge Topete said, "Our district has experienced numerous changes in administration. This includes the need for a superintendent due to that fact an oversight has occurred in regard to Ms. Balderas' certification status."

Despite Balderas not having the certificate for the job, Southside said it will let her continue to be an assistant principal while asking the state to give her more time to take the test.

That shocked a few parents with kids who go to school at Gallardo.

Richard Santellan said, "I don't think that's fair, to tell you the truth, for the kids or for the school district itself."

Sandra Sanchez said, "If it is state required, then I agree she should have it."

So here is the lesson learned: Educators are held to a different standard than your child who is under so much pressure to make the grade.

Hascke with the Teachers' Union said, "We cannot lower our standards. We have to make sure that our teachers and our administrators are held to a very high standard. Our children deserve no less."

By the way, Principal Rojas is taking her test again next week for the thirty seventh time. She's also applying to the state to give her another year to pass it.

mikejones99
02-28-2007, 06:17 PM
most teachers are stupid, that's why they make so little moneys.

ashbeeigh
02-28-2007, 06:28 PM
I understand why everyone is so pissed at the situation, I mean, holy crap, even someone with a Masters can't pass the test.

But, then again, you have to look at the current "teacher crisis" at SAISD. Getting someone to tackle something of that caliber, increasing test scores and keeping the kids in school, even increasing those stupid test scores, must be a big job, and she's doing it. I give her props for taking on a job not many people are even thinking about.

I also would want that Hascke lady to spend some time in a school as a principal. I bet she's like an HR assistant or some shit. Punch her in the face please, for this comment:


"Could be that they need to be re-directed to another area of education other than teaching. There are other things that they can do," explained Hascke

As for Balderas, I don't have an ounce of sympathy for her. At least get you temporary certiificate taken care of so you can be a principal.

bendmz
02-28-2007, 06:34 PM
anyone see that new show on last nite ? I'm not as smart as a fifth grader... or some shit like that. there was this dude who graduated from UCLA with a masters in some shit. and he was asked 4 questions a fifth grader could answer. THE DUMBASS MISSED ALL 4 QUESTIONS !!!!!!
the kids did great, they answered all of them correctly. First question was, what month do we celebrate Columbus Day..... these qestions were so damn simple even these clowns could of answered them..... :reading

boutons_
02-28-2007, 06:47 PM
You get what you pay for.

Paying peanuts gets you monkeys.

Mixability
03-23-2007, 12:41 PM
Update: San Antonio Principal Fails Test 37th Time
Last Update: Mar 22, 2007 4:53 PM

Posted By: Mandi Johnston

Update: The test results are in for a San Antonio school principal still trying to pass the test required to keep her job. She recently took that test again after failing it 36 times. So, how did she do?

Smith Elementary principal Elizabeth Rojas took the state exam required for her job again just a few weeks ago. The day after we revealed she had already failed it 36 times, more than any other educator in the state.
Rojas told the Trouble Shooters, "I go into the testing situation feeling the anxiety of...throwing up, nervousness."

Her test score is in and Rojas has failed again, for the 37th time. San Antonio ISD declined to comment on her latest attempt.

Rojas was one of several area principals and teachers we found last month who still have not passed the state exam required for their jobs after dozens of attempts.

The second highest number of failed attempts we found were by Theresa Balderas, assistant principal at Gallardo Elementary at Southside ISD.

She's failed the principal exam 19 times. She's still in her job even though she has no certificate to be a principal, a violation of state rules.

The state says it is up to Southside's school board to take her out of the position, but the board president did not respond to our request for an interview about Balderas.

So, what are the chances these educators will ever make the grade? UT Researcher Ed Fuller told the Trouble Shooters, "Once they fail the test probably between five to ten times, the likelihood they'll ever pass is almost zero."

The state is still considering limiting the number of times educators can take their tests. We'll let you know when something happens.

angel_luv
03-23-2007, 01:29 PM
First question was, what month do we celebrate Columbus Day.....

I'm not going to lie. I had to think about that one.

The one thing the show doesn't account for is that many of the questions- such as when is Columbus day is random trivia.
Adults have so much stress- a holiday they don't get off likely is not going to be in the forefront of their mind.

ShoogarBear
03-23-2007, 01:36 PM
My question is, what about all the people who pass the test and can't teach jack?

THE ONE AND ONLY
03-23-2007, 02:51 PM
My question is, what about all the people who pass the test and can't teach jack?

Yeah, just because you are smart doesnt mean you know how to teach.

mrsmaalox
03-23-2007, 08:18 PM
All those tests don't prove anything about whether someone is smart or stupid. It only shows how good someone is at taking tests. My husband read somewhere that in Texas 19% (or something like that; I don't remember) of high school graduates who pass the TAKS test are functionally illiterate.