Clements is a 49er

[Fillmoe]

According to Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com, free agent Nate Clements has been signed or will soon sign with the San Francisco 49ers. The report comes from Thomas Sorrell, a writer for RealFootball365.

Email from Geoff Hobson:
Clements is gone to san fran for $23 M to sign - a deal the Bengals could have done if they cut the few guys who do play defense.


http://www.49erswebzone.com/content/news/view.php?id=8896



and ESPN is saying Adalius Thomas is also on his way to SF

[degenerate_gambler]

http://www.49erswebzone.com/content/news/view.php?id=8896



and ESPN is saying Adalius Thomas is also on his way to SF


What pick do they have in the draft and who do you think they'll use it on?

Thomas would be a great pick up for them or anybody for that matter.

[kskonn]

http://www.49erswebzone.com/content/news/view.php?id=8896



and ESPN is saying Adalius Thomas is also on his way to SF


I could see them getting Thomas. The ravens cap situation is not good thus putting them out of the race for thomas.

[mardigan]

Pats are about to sign Adalius Thomas

[mardigan]

And this shit isnt even official, Fillmoe probably just jinxed it

[Horry For 3!]

If SF really are able to get a DB & LB then I could see them going for a WR in the draft. Even though they could even more sure up the DEF with a DE.

[Fillmoe]

its not 100% official yet..... but even espn insider is saying that we are close to signing clements..... so if this happens and then we sign adalius thomas then we make some moves to move up in the draft and get calvin johnson we are looking good..... possibly get brandon meriweather in the 2nd and playoffs here we come

[mardigan]

I just heard on NFL Network that the Pats are close to signing Thomas, so I dont think thats happening

[Fillmoe]

damn that sucks...... ill be happy with clements.....

[mardigan]

Fuck yea, I would be too. Put him next to Spencer and that will be a great secondary. Harris can still contrbute but is getting really old. I really like Spencer though

[Fillmoe]

i hope we move up somehow..... and get CJ then get Meriweather in the 2nd and its a wrap....... if we dont move up then get Carriker with the 11th

[Calbears1]

Adalius Thomas is in Santa Clara as we speak and there is an offer on the table, an offer that the Pats cannot match.

The rumor is that what it will come down to is 1) Money-he signs with SF 2) Playing for a team with a legit shot at a Super Bowl right now-he signs with the Pats

[2centsworth]

Thomas on the pats, wow.

[Horry For 3!]

i hope we move up somehow..... and get CJ then get Meriweather in the 2nd and its a wrap....... if we dont move up then get Carriker with the 11th
You won't ever get Calvin, so just get that out of your mind. Maybe Meriweather but probably not.

If Calvin drops to #4, Bucs will draft him no matter what.

[mardigan]

i hope we move up somehow..... and get CJ then get Meriweather in the 2nd and its a wrap....... if we dont move up then get Carriker with the 11th
Karriker is a beast, 6-6 290 pounds and a 4.81 40. He would be a great fit in your 3-4, as he could be moved all over the line. Im not sold on Merriweather, I think if they could move up in the second, they might have a slim chance at Paul Poslunzy from Penn St., I think he would also be a great fit at outside lb with Lawson on the other side

[Calbears1]

I hope the Niners still draft defensive, regardless whether or not they get Thomas and Clements. I wouldn't mind having Alan Branch or Laron Landry.

[mardigan]

Adalius Thomas is in Santa Clara as we speak and there is an offer on the table, an offer that the Pats cannot match.

The rumor is that what it will come down to is 1) Money-he signs with SF 2) Playing for a team with a legit shot at a Super Bowl right now-he signs with the Pats
!st of all your wrong saying the Pats cant match the offer. As long as its not more than 27 mill they can do whatever they want. And I can almost guarantee with the contract they offered Clements that it isnt over that.

[mardigan]

And their is no way Branch slips to 11, the Browns, Redskins or Cards will take him first. ALthough I think Okoye will be there and he or Carriker would be a great fit

[Calbears1]

!st of all your wrong saying the Pats cant match the offer. As long as its not more than 27 mill they can do whatever they want. And I can almost guarantee with the contract they offered Clements that it isnt over that.

Chill out bro, no need to get all crazy! I was just repeating what was stated on ESPN. They stated that the Niners can offer him more than any other team if they wanted to, and that he would have to choose between the money and the chance to play for a super bowl immediately. The niner are under the cap by approx 38-40 million.

[Calbears1]

And their is no way Branch slips to 11, the Browns, Redskins or Cards will take him first. ALthough I think Okoye will be there and he or Carriker would be a great fit

There are numerous mock drafts that have Branch going at #11 or even below. I know that he is damn good, but you never know where he will go. The Browns are going to take either Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson. The Cards desperately need offensive linemen.

[Calbears1]

Apparently the rumors were wrong regarding Adalius Thomas. He is not in Santa Clara. The players that are currently meeting with the Niners are Clements and Michael Lewis.

[Tradition]

Only reason why the pats have a shot at the superbowl is because they play in a god awful division. They arent winning shit anytime soon. Your time is up so stay in Foxburo Brady and Billibitch and go jack each other off in your circle jerk you pieces of shit!

[mardigan]

Chill out bro, no need to get all crazy! I was just repeating what was stated on ESPN. They stated that the Niners can offer him more than any other team if they wanted to, and that he would have to choose between the money and the chance to play for a super bowl immediately. The niner are under the cap by approx 38-40 million.
Hey man I wasnt getting upset, just trying to correct you, sorry if it came off like that, I just take NFL talk serious. I just read that Thomas is visiting with the Pats as well and they are close on a deal

[mardigan]

Only reason why the pats have a shot at the superbowl is because they play in a god awful division. They arent winning shit anytime soon. Your time is up so stay in Foxburo Brady and Billibitch and go jack each other off in your circle jerk you pieces of shit!
Whoa whoa, I hate the Pats as much as anyone, but to think they couldnt win it again is a little off

[Calbears1]

Ya, I also heard that he is talking with the Pats and that their only competition for him is the Niners.

[mardigan]

There are numerous mock drafts that have Branch going at #11 or even below. I know that he is damn good, but you never know where he will go. The Browns are going to take either Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson. The Cards desperately need offensive linemen.
I agree the Browns probably wont take him, but I could see the Cards taking him, and I am sure that if he is there at 6 the Skins will take him. But it might be a blessing in disguise if the 9ers end up with Carriker (who could play either end spot and is big and strong enough for snaps at nose tackle in there 3-4), or Okoye who has been nothing but impessive during pre draft activities, and is 19 with a huge upside.

[mardigan]

9ers also trying to sign s Ken Hamlin

[Pugglekicker_21]

I say the Cowboys sign Hamlin, and as for the draft I think they'll take a look at the kid from Louisville, because Bryant Young is Methuselah by NFL standards.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

8 years for $80 million?

Holy horrible deal, Batman!

[mardigan]

Awfull deal, to much moola

[Calbears1]

Niners signed Clements, Michael Lewis and are about to sign DT Aubrayo Franklin from Baltimore.

[Dre_7]

How much cap room do da Niners got?

[Fillmoe]

they were 40 mill under the cap... i dont know how much they have now

[Fillmoe]

Im Loving It.... We Back Bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fillmoe]

KNBR in the bay is reporting that AT and Clements are both together in SF........ FUCKING GREAT!

[Calbears1]

At is in SF? I heard that he wasn't....If they get Thomas too they must have Eddie D running the team again!

[Calbears1]

According to ESPN, Adalius Thomas has reached an agreement on a preliminary deal with the Patriots.

[Fillmoe]

so much for taht..... damn i wish eddie d was back though.... good old days

[Calbears1]

Eddie D was the man...he did whatever he had to do to put a winning team on the field. He hated to lose....Remember the year that he found a way to bring deion in with one of those incentive laden contracts! that was pure genious...

[Horry For 3!]

I just did a 3 year average on DEF in fantasy football. The 49ers are the worst DEF in the league the past 3 years as far as in FF. They avg 87 fantasy pts per year while the 31st team avg 92 fantasy pts per year which is Oakland. Chicago avgs 194 fantasy pts per year the last 3 with Baltimore coming in at 2nd with 184 fantasy pts per year.

[TheTruth]

Jesus Chris, 10 million a year for Clements? That is waaaay too much money for a 2nd rate cornerback.

[joeyjfive]

I cant believe the Eagles let Micheal Lewis go.

[dimsah]

Michael Lewis has been garbage the past 2 seasons. He's always out of position, even in zone coverage. That's why he got benched for a second year player.
He's an undersized linebacker who is good in run support, but he can't cover man or zone for shit. I can't believe the 49rs gave him that much money.

[mardigan]

Jesus Chris, 10 million a year for Clements? That is waaaay too much money for a 2nd rate cornerback.
Hes no 2nd rate,he is one of the best corners in the game, easily top 5

[scott]

Hahaha... 8 years 80 million, that's funny shit. Keep up the good work SF!

[Fillmoe]

Hahaha... 8 years 80 million, that's funny shit. Keep up the good work SF!


average idiot fan

[Calbears1]

It's funny how fan's of teams that don't get the player hate on the team that gets the player. If the tables were turned and they got clements, they would be as hyped as we are.

And by the way, this guy is not a 2nd tier cb.

[Fillmoe]

best defensive CB on the market.... easily top 5 in the league..... off the top of my head only champ is better

[mardigan]

No one, at least me, thinks Clements is a bad signing as far as the player. He is one of the best cover and tackling corners in the game, not to mention he also plays the zone well. Its more about the money. 10 mill a year is unbelievable. He wont make it through year 4 of that deal

[mardigan]

Hes no 2nd rate,he is one of the best corners in the game, easily top 5
Thats what I said Fillmoe, and the only other ones who I would put up there with him, are Bailey as you said, Mccallister, Samuals, Bly, and Newman, and out of those only Bailey and McCalister are probably better. People havent seen him play because hes in Buffalo, but people will realize soon enough

[Dre_7]

My cousin says SF has about 37 mill in cap room. :D We are back baby!!!

[mardigan]

My cousin says SF has about 37 mill in cap room. :D We are back baby!!!
They dont have that anymore after the Clements Lewis and the dt from Baltimore

[Fillmoe]

hes 27 years old..... NFL contracts can be restructured..... he will never see 80 mil... i guarantee it

[Calbears1]

The niners actually just got an extra 3.6mill in cap space....

"CAP LIMIT ADJUSTED HIGHER (more cap room)
Minnesota $9,338,540
Kansas City $8,559,275
Jacksonville $8,505,098
New Orleans $6,557,782
Cleveland $6,451,094
Carolina $4,161,388
New England $3,871,580
Tampa Bay $3,735,576
San Francisco $3,651,724
Houston $3,346,071
Seattle $3,323,500
Buffalo $3,000,000
Philadelphia $2,964,935
Dallas $2,717,626
Indianapolis $2,183,326
Detroit $2,109,229
Baltimore $1,982,839
Denver $1,175,718
N.Y.Giants $581,366
Washington $522,354
Green Bay $519,110
Atlanta $228,518
Oakland $117,349

NO ADJUSTMENT
Arizona $0
Cincinnati $0

CAP LIMIT ADJUSTED LOWER (less cap room)
Chicago -$535,529
St. Louis -$795,869
San Diego -$2,594,685
Miami -$2,609,428
Pittsburgh -$2,678,769
N.Y. Jets -$3,166,401
Tennessee -$3,593,294"

[Dre_7]

After lookin tho, SF gots about 30 mill in cap space.

[Calbears1]

hes 27 years old..... NFL contracts can be restructured..... he will never see 80 mil... i guarantee it

Exactly.....22 of the 80 mill is guaranteed...he will never see the full 80....I also saw somewhere that he will start out at 5mill for the 1st year and it will incrementally go up year to year.

[mardigan]

hes 27 years old..... NFL contracts can be restructured..... he will never see 80 mil... i guarantee it
I know that, but you have to admit that 10 mill ayear is a little steep, but I guess you got to do what you got to do

[Calbears1]

Rumor also has it that Joey Porter's top 2 choices of teams to sign with are SD and SF and that both these teams are pursuing him very heavily.

[Fillmoe]

i dont really like porter... if we can get him at a decent price im all for it..... but i hope we aint throwing nate clements money at him

[mardigan]

Rumor also has it that Joey Porter's top 2 choices of teams to sign with are SD and SF and that both these teams are pursuing him very heavily.
Cowboys have already contacted him for a meeting on Tues. or Wed.

[Horry For 3!]

49ers just signed Ashley Lelie to a 2 year deal

[TheTruth]

49ers just signed Ashley Lelie to a 2 year deal
Jesus, It must suck to have cap room and this be the best Receiver on the market. Lelie sucks. Another one of the broncos terrible first round picks. Damnit.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Thats what I said Fillmoe, and the only other ones who I would put up there with him, are Bailey as you said, Mccallister, Samuals, Bly, and Newman, and out of those only Bailey and McCalister are probably better. People havent seen him play because hes in Buffalo, but people will realize soon enough


Bly is a good corner, but nowhere close to a top 5 corner. He's at his best on the short to intermediate routes, but he's lost his deep speed.

[Horry For 3!]

Jesus, It must suck to have cap room and this be the best Receiver on the market. Lelie sucks. Another one of the broncos terrible first round picks. Damnit.
Ashley Lelie was decent at first then his attitude came out and he went to shit.

[TheTruth]

Lelie had one "decent" season in Denver. He has great deep speed, but Alex Smith doesn't have a very strong arm. I don't think he's a good fit in SF.

[TheTruth]

Bly is a good corner, but nowhere close to a top 5 corner. He's at his best on the short to intermediate routes, but he's lost his deep speed.
Yeah, Bly was maybe a top 5 CB 3-4 years ago. He's gonna get challenged like he has never before with Champ shutting out the other side. Gonna be interesting to see how he holds up to that. But he's a big play guy, and I can see him coming up with 6-8 picks with all the action he is going to be seeing. But he'll also be burned more than a few times this season.

[Horry For 3!]

Lelie had one "decent" season in Denver. He has great deep speed, but Alex Smith doesn't have a very strong arm. I don't think he's a good fit in SF.
He defintely won't fill Antonio Bryant's spot :lol Even though Bryan't attitude is worse than Lelie's.

49ers will have to draft a young good WR in the draft this year. Whether it be in the 2nd/3rd.

[TheTruth]

Oh, and Champ, Mccalister, Hall, Samuel, and Newman are all better than Clements. And not one of them is worth the money Clements is gonna get.

[mardigan]

Bly is a good corner, but nowhere close to a top 5 corner. He's at his best on the short to intermediate routes, but he's lost his deep speed.
Wrong on that man, have you seen him play? He can run with just about anyone. And I dont understand why the 9ers didnt try and get Stallworth, he is much better than Lelie

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Wrong on that man, have you seen him play? He can run with just about anyone. And I dont understand why the 9ers didnt try and get Stallworth, he is much better than Lelie


Uhh, I've watched every game of his for the last four years...

[TheTruth]

Wrong on that man, have you seen him play? He can run with just about anyone. And I dont understand why the 9ers didnt try and get Stallworth, he is much better than Lelie
I'm sure he's seen a few Bly games (him being a Lion fan and all).

[TheTruth]

I'm not bashing Clements as a corner. He's good, but he's not worth the money. The Niners are going to be a nice team next year. Definately gonna make a playoff run.

[mardigan]

Maybe he isnt a top 5, but he is still damn good

[mardigan]

I'm not bashing Clements as a corner. He's good, but he's not worth the money. The Niners are going to be a nice team next year. Definately gonna make a playoff run.
Yea I agree that he isnt worth the money, but he is damn good. And I thought Disgruntled was talking about Clements,not Bly, my fault. At least the Lions got DeWayne White though huh?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

White was a decent signing, depending on how his contract is structured.

5 years at $29 million doesn't sound that good for a career backup, but most of these initial numbers are inflated.

[mardigan]

5 sacks, 3 forced fumbles and 7 pass deflections isnt bad for a guy that didnt get much pt

[Fillmoe]

i wouldnt mind getting rice in the 2nd..... i hope we draft patrick willis or adam carriker with the 11th.... our d would be solid....

[mardigan]

i wouldnt mind getting rice in the 2nd..... i hope we draft patrick willis or adam carriker with the 11th.... our d would be solid....
Not Okoye?

[Fillmoe]

Not Okoye?

i wouldnt mind him either.... hes young but not a 3-4 DT.... regardless i wouldnt be upset if we picked him because hes only 19 and that would solidify that spot for years to come

[Horry For 3!]

Not Okoye?
Carriker fits the 49ers system better than Okoye.

[samikeyp]

Good signing...the Niners have been active so far. Definelty putting themselves in position to be a playoff team.

[Fillmoe]

Champ Bailey is 29 years old and has played eight seasons in the NFL Nate Clements is 27 and has played in six NFL seasons. Both players played 16 games in each season. In that period, both players returned kicks and punts. Clements had two for touchdowns while Bailey had none

In his first six seasons, Champ Bailey had 21 interceptions, 410 total tackles, 1 sack, 71 passes defended, 4 forced fumbles, four recovered, and 1 defensive touchdown.

In the first six seasons of his career, Nate Clements has had 23 interceptions, 432 total tackles, 1.5 sacks, 61 passes defended, 13 fumbles forced, 4 recovered, and 5 defensive touchdowns.


for you folks calling him a "2nd rate CB".... especially you BroncHOES fans

[scott]

How many ProBowls has Clements been to?

[PixelPusher]

How many ProBowls has Clements been to?Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year, and Tom Brady didn't. Obviously Romo is a better QB than Brady.
:drunk

[Fillmoe]

Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year, and Tom Brady didn't. Obviously Romo is a better QB than Brady.
:drunk


SCOTT LOST!

[TheTruth]

for you folks calling him a "2nd rate CB".... especially you BroncHOES fans
If you are trying to compare Champ Bailey to Clements you are freaking crazy. Pull up Champs stats for the last two seasons. He's light years ahead of the best Clements could ever hope to be.

[TheTruth]

Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year, and Tom Brady didn't. Obviously Romo is a better QB than Brady.
:drunk
Well, maybe if Romo and Brady were in the same Conference this argument would be valid. But Romo earned it in a watered down NFC.

[Fillmoe]

If you are trying to compare Champ Bailey to Clements you are freaking crazy. Pull up Champs stats for the last two seasons. He's light years ahead of the best Clements could ever hope to be.

im not comparing them.... i know champ is better..... but clements isnt a "2nd rate cb"..... all im proving to you guys......

[TheTruth]

Nate Clements got lucky that he was a free agent this offseason. There wasn't one other decent corner on the market.

[PixelPusher]

Nate Clements got lucky that he was a free agent this offseason. There wasn't one other decent corner on the market.
Decent corners are rarely ever on the market, as evidenced by the Pats franchising Samuel.

[mardigan]

If people think he is a second rate cb they dont know much about football. Nobody knows how good this guy is because he has been stuck in Buffalo, a place that rarely gets any games aired

[TheTruth]

If people think he is a second rate cb they dont know much about football. Nobody knows how good this guy is because he has been stuck in Buffalo, a place that rarely gets any games aired
You act like you have seen any more of his games than the rest of us.

[scott]

Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year, and Tom Brady didn't. Obviously Romo is a better QB than Brady.
:drunk

How many ProBowls has Tom Brady been to? My guess is more than zero (like some CBs who are now the highest paid in history).

[mardigan]

You act like you have seen any more of his games than the rest of us.
NFL season pass+Lee Evans being one of my favorite players= yea Ive probably seen way more Buffalo Bills games than most people, Rams games too

[scott]

Clements is good, but not largest CB contract in NFL history good.

[mardigan]

Clemens is good, but not largest CB contract in NFL history good.
That was probably the best take so far

[Calbears1]

From 49ersnews.com

Here is the breakdown between Champ Bailey and Nate Clements’ careers thus far:

Champ Bailey is 29 years old and has played eight seasons in the NFL Nate Clements is 27 and has played in six NFL seasons. Both players played 16 games in each season. In that period, both players returned kicks and punts. Clements had two for touchdowns while Bailey had none

In his first six seasons, Champ Bailey had 21 interceptions, 410 total tackles, 1 sack, 71 passes defended, 4 forced fumbles, four recovered, and 1 defensive touchdown.

In the first six seasons of his career, Nate Clements has had 23 interceptions, 432 total tackles, 1.5 sacks, 61 passes defended, 13 fumbles forced, 4 recovered, and 5 defensive touchdowns.

Clements leads him in all but two of these categories, and one is a tie

[scott]

In Anthony Henry's first six seasons of his career, he has 22 interceptions, 63 passes defended, and 2 defensive touchdowns.

I'm not about to put Anthony Henry in the same category as Bailey or Clements though. The moral of the story: stats don't always tell the story.

[mardigan]

Niether do interceptions, look at Chris McCallisters ints, not very high, which means no one throws at him. Newman too, ints dont always mean that the corner is great

[TheTruth]

From 49ersnews.com

Here is the breakdown between Champ Bailey and Nate Clements’ careers thus far:

Champ Bailey is 29 years old and has played eight seasons in the NFL Nate Clements is 27 and has played in six NFL seasons. Both players played 16 games in each season. In that period, both players returned kicks and punts. Clements had two for touchdowns while Bailey had none

In his first six seasons, Champ Bailey had 21 interceptions, 410 total tackles, 1 sack, 71 passes defended, 4 forced fumbles, four recovered, and 1 defensive touchdown.

In the first six seasons of his career, Nate Clements has had 23 interceptions, 432 total tackles, 1.5 sacks, 61 passes defended, 13 fumbles forced, 4 recovered, and 5 defensive touchdowns.

Clements leads him in all but two of these categories, and one is a tie
You can't look at stats when comparing players to Champ. If Bailey had as many balls thrown his way as Clements or any other CB he would have had 15+ INT's last year. The QB's DON'T throw at him. And when they do, they are apologizing after the game just like Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart.