Another Kobe suspension?

[hitmanyr2k]

Once again Kobe flails his arm on a jumpshot and cracks Jaric in the face. A carbon copy of the elbow to Ginobili's face. The guy apparently still hasn't learned his lesson yet. If the league stays consistent another suspension should be coming his way.

[mqywaaah]

Kobe..... tsk tsk tsk... again?

[hitmanyr2k]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270306016

Just click play on the highlights. The exact same play...just substitute Jaric for Ginobili :lol

[Flight3107]

Hopefully he gets a three game suspension. :smokin

[Pistons < Spurs]

He didn't deserve a suspension last time, not does he now.

[sabar]

That's so dumb. Is it standard jump-shot technique to flail your arms out to the sides after the shot?

[Medvedenko]

I'm sure the NBA will stay consistent and only suspend Kobe. The other elbows, take downs, head smacks from other players will go unpunished as usual...

[Fillmoe]

im starting to like kobe now that the league is shitting on him............ hes my new favorite player.........

[RonMexico]

Where are all you Kobe apologists from before - "Oh that was just a normal shot motion... Manu was unlucky"? Show yourselves!

[hitmanyr2k]

I'm sure the NBA will stay consistent and only suspend Kobe. The other elbows, take downs, head smacks from other players will go unpunished as usual...

Cmon man, just admit Kobe's blind flailing is a danger to other players in the league. Does that look like a "natural basketball motion" to you? Dirk, Manu, Jaric...the list keeps growing. Kobe KNOWS why he got suspended the first time and now he does it again? Is he that stupid?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Kobe did it again to say, "See, that's just how I'm wired. Kind of like a twitch. Why would I have done it intentionally, if I already know the consequences by now?"

It'll be funny what the league does, they set the precedent. Kobe committing a blow to the head. equals suspension.

[Obstructed_View]

Kobe didn't deserve the first suspension, and the NBA fucked up. Looks like they are stuck now. They HAVE to suspend him.

[ggoose25]

what a fucknut. that flailing arm has got to stop, he's fucking up people's grills!

[mardigan]

Sam exact move, might get 3-5 games. Guy has got to stop flailing aroung like a little bitch

[baseline bum]

I didn't think he deserved to be suspended the first time with Manu, but having it happen a second time in the exact same way pretty much makes it look intentional, so suspend his bitch ass.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I think some homers should cut that natural motion bullshit. It's true, Kobe may be flailing for contact. But this is unique to Kobe it seems. Dirk, Manu, Jaric? Two head-shot incidents nearly a month apart exactly identical. Other players on jumpshots would clobber their defenders in the head more frequently if such a motion was completely natural.


Maybe the first suspension wasn't warranted. Second one they have to do it. Besides, the dude needs to stop hitting players in the head!

[Agloco]

When I heard the Spurs and Gino talk about how they thought the incident wasn't intentional my first thought was, hey they're content to just sweep it under the rug.

I was always of the opinion that it was intentional. There's no natural shooting motion that causes your arm to fly out to the side like that.

Kobe gets frustrated a lot. You can see he has anger management issues. This hit on Jaric was no different.

Kobe needs to be suspended for at least 5 games this time.

After the first incident, I suppose one could make an argument about questionable intent. Not after this one though:

It was blatant, end of story.



On a sour note for Spurs fans though. It means he misses the game with the Mavs coming up next week........ godamm Kobe.

[Agloco]

what a fucknut. that flailing arm has got to stop, he's fucking up people's grills!


LOL.......

Thanks for the laugh goose, I needed that badly :spin :spin

[Medvedenko]

5 games....are you serious....Granted his "flailing" should be punished...but 5 games. What about the clothesline of Lebron on Wade, or the Gino knee to nuts on Amare, too many inconsitancies in the NBA. Oh, let's not mention the karate kick from Bowen. Each game there are plays where people get their bell run, but no suspensions.

[RonMexico]

5 games....are you serious....Granted his "flailing" should be punished...but 5 games. What about the clothesline of Lebron on Wade, or the Gino knee to nuts on Amare, too many inconsitancies in the NBA. Oh, let's not mention the karate kick from Bowen. Each game there are plays where people get their bell run, but no suspensions.

Because it's time they crack down on this BS of trying to draw fouls like a little bitch... the excuse of "normal shooting motion" doesn't work anymore.

[lefty]

So, everytime Kobe is rejected by an opponent, he'll hit him in the face???

[lefty]

5 games....are you serious....Granted his "flailing" should be punished...but 5 games. What about the clothesline of Lebron on Wade, or the Gino knee to nuts on Amare, too many inconsitancies in the NBA. Oh, let's not mention the karate kick from Bowen. Each game there are plays where people get their bell run, but no suspensions.

Gino kicking Amare was not intentional ; Kobe, on the other hand, is a bitch

[kskonn]

5 games....are you serious....Granted his "flailing" should be punished...but 5 games. What about the clothesline of Lebron on Wade, or the Gino knee to nuts on Amare, too many inconsitancies in the NBA. Oh, let's not mention the karate kick from Bowen. Each game there are plays where people get their bell run, but no suspensions.


I agree. Last night Aldridge sent an elbow to Barry's head and there is no mention of the incident. Some one else kneed Duncan in the balls, no mention of that. I brought up those incidents because I saw that game, I know there where more than the incidents the Medvedenko and I mentioned. They have to be consistent if they are going to hand out suspensions and fines.

[Supergirl]

I didn't think Kobe deserved the suspension last time because it was so clearly incidental. But the league didn't give it to him because they thought it was flagrant or intentional. They gave it to him because there is apparently a rule against ANY CONTACT ABOVE THE HEAD. If this incident qualifies under that rule, then I would suspect a similar response, provided of course the TWolves send the tape to the office.

[PM5K]

Should be interesting is all I can say.

If the league doesn't suspend him they almost admit they were wrong the first time,

Or they could suspend him for one game to stay consistent,

Or they could suspend him for more than one game since this is a repeat offense.

It doesn't help Kobe's case that an offensive foul was called...

[Medvedenko]

Like I said....if any contact over the shoulders incurr a penalty, then suspend everyone for any errant elbows, clotheslines, karate kicks etc....I don't see the NBA doing anything at this point.

[mardigan]

Oh they are going to suspend him, the question is for how long

[PM5K]

Like I said....if any contact over the shoulders incurr a penalty, then suspend everyone for any errant elbows, clotheslines, karate kicks etc....I don't see the NBA doing anything at this point.

It could be what they consider intentional contact not just incidental...

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2790534

ESPN says it's under review, should have a ruling by tonight. I'm not great fan of Kobe but I thought the last suspension was kind of weak given that worse happens around the league on a regular basis with no mention or incident.

[PM5K]

Suspended one game...

[mardigan]

Updated: March 7, 2007, 3:09 PM ET
NBA suspends Kobe for tonight's game vs. BucksBy Chris Sheridan
ESPN.com


The NBA is suspending Lakers guard Kobe Bryant for Wednesday night's game at Milwaukee for catching Minnesota Timberwolves guard Marko Jaric in the face Tuesday night.


Bryant


After getting his shot blocked by Jaric, Bryant flailed his arms and caught Jaric in the face with 58.7 seconds left in regulation Tuesday.

Bryant was called for a foul on the play. Bryant struck San Antonio guard Manu Ginobili in the face in similar fashion with two-tenths of a second left in the fourth quarter of the Lakers' 96-94 overtime loss Jan. 28 against the Spurs.

Bryant was not called for a foul on that play, but was suspended for the Lakers' next game.

Bryant was suspended for what league disciplinarian Stu Jackson called driving "a stiff arm backward."

Chris Sheridan covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.

[Agloco]

Like I said....if any contact over the shoulders incurr a penalty, then suspend everyone for any errant elbows, clotheslines, karate kicks etc....I don't see the NBA doing anything at this point.



You're absolutely bullshiting yourself if you think those incidents by Kobe are the product of anything other than frustration..... IT WAS INTENTIONAL. Point blank.

Intent is a very real issue here. And yes I agree, LeBron should have been suspended for a game according to the rule. The NBA is looking at intent as well, written or unwritten. My argument isn't with their interpretation of a rule, it's with Kobe.

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice.................

His actions are very much like those of a punk. No reason for that kind of shit at all.

[Purple & Gold]

As I said before I have no problem with a suspension as long as they are going to be consistent. The only problem is that they haven't been consistent.

[sandeepgm]

I was always of the opinion that it was intentional. There's no natural shooting motion that causes your arm to fly out to the side like that.

Kobe gets frustrated a lot. You can see he has anger management issues. This hit on Jaric was no different.

I agree. If you see the replay on the play before he was actually looking for a call. He didnt get it and in the next he made this exagerrated arm motion.

[bigfish22]

Why does Kobe get way more credit for being a "clean player" than he deserves? I mean look at his history. (See: Raja Bell, Chris Childs, Reggie Miller, Mike Miller, Manu, and now Marko Jaric) Does anyone not pay attention to history? We're so quick to judge others by the number of technical fouls they get in a season, well how about we look at one's suspension history. Only thing is with this stat, Artest is just killin Kobe in fantasy points!

[Cry Havoc]

If you hurt people repeatedly with the same motion, you should get suspended.

If he does this again, they should sit him for 5-7 games. There is NO point to the kind of flailing that he does.

[Sportcamper]

It is judgmental to say that Kobe did anything intentional...He is a cleaver and crafty player...That does not make him a dirty player...The NBA should have just said that there review was inconclusive.... :pctoss

[Fillmoe]

Kobe Against The League!!!!!!!!! Fuck David Stern!

[Borosai]

It's intentional. BAM!

[FromWayDowntown]

Someone should call out the Timberwolves organization for whining to the league about this.

[Sportcamper]

Buss or Mitch need to make a public statement regarding the unfair treatment Kobe has received regarding these suspensions...

Where is the the suspension on Lebrons clothesline....Please write or email the NBA to protest Kobe’s unfair treatment... :rolleyes

[Winnipeg_Spur]

The difference between Kobe's incidents and most others is that Bryant is doing something that has no part in the game, flailing his arms in an obvious attempt to draw a foul. Whether the contact that occurs as a result of that is accidental or not is perhaps worthy of debate, but ultimately makes little difference to the league. Even if Kobe accidently smacked Marko in the face, he did it because he was attempting to deceive the referees into calling a foul that didn't occur, not because he was simply attempting a regular basketball move.

[lefty]

Kobe is a diva who doesn't like to get his jump shots blocked by some guy, so he slaps them in the face

[ChumpDumper]

He really gets pissed when white dudes stuff him, doesn't he?

[lefty]

He really gets pissed when white dudes stuff him, doesn't he?
Yep

[mardigan]

I think Kobe just hates foreigners

[ggoose25]

kobe:clean player :: karl malone:nice guy

[Agloco]

It is judgmental to say that Kobe did anything intentional...He is a cleaver and crafty player...That does not make him a dirty player...The NBA should have just said that there review was inconclusive.... :pctoss


Buss or Mitch need to make a public statement regarding the unfair treatment Kobe has received regarding these suspensions...

Where is the the suspension on Lebrons clothesline....Please write or email the NBA to protest Kobe’s unfair treatment... :rolleyes

Boy oh boy........

While I agree that LeBron should have served some "pine-time" I think the league is looking at intent as well. Kobe set a precedent with the last flail.

I think he got off light actually (probably had something to do with their upcoming matchup with Dallas.....).

So call me judge and jury when I say this:

KOBE IS A PUNK BEEOTCH AND GOT HIS JUST DESERTS

[CubanMustGo]

KOBE IS A PUNK BEEOTCH AND GOT HIS JUST DESERTS


What, did they give him the Sahara and the Mojave? :lol

[clambake]

Never saw Kobe man-up and make that move with Karl Malone.

[Obstructed_View]

It is judgmental to say that Kobe did anything intentional...He is a cleaver
Fixed.

[Agloco]

What, did they give him the Sahara and the Mojave? :lol

Get your learn on......

Pay close attention to the third entry as you scroll down.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/desert


Here's another reference in case that one doesn't clarify things:

http://www.snopes.com/language/notthink/deserts.htm

[lefty]

Never saw Kobe man-up and make that move with Karl Malone.


Well....


http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1816/karlkobehk0.jpg

[Slinkyman]

anyone really think it wasn't intentional? Hitting someone while grabbing a rebound happens and is probably unintentional but hitting someone after you get blocked? Totally intentional and should be considered a punch by the league.