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1369
03-09-2007, 09:40 AM
Could he just go away and take Ann Coulter and the rest of CPAC with him so they don't fuck up my Republican Party any more? (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1597666,00.html?cnn=yes)

boutons_
03-09-2007, 10:03 AM
"trying to uphold the rule of law"

No, hyporcrit, going after the Clintons, and finding nothing anywhere after burning 10s of $Ms of taxpayer money, was a right-wing witch hunt, where partisan politics and testicle-kicking was much more important than running the country.

George Gervin's Afro
03-09-2007, 10:39 AM
Please don't go away Newt or Ann.. You do wonders for the Democratic party! You are two of the best fundraisers we have! :lol

Yonivore
03-09-2007, 10:59 AM
Yeah, if she wasn't so busy shooting herself in the foot with stupid references to name-calling getting you thrown into rehab, she might actually be a threat to Democrats.

Unfortunately, when she makes sense, the media doesn't bite. It's only when she uses "colorful" language does it make the news.


SHOOTING ELEPHANTS IN A BARREL
March 7, 2007

Lewis Libby has now been found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice for lies that had absolutely no legal consequence.

It was not a crime to reveal Valerie Plame's name because she was not a covert agent. If it had been a crime, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald could have wrapped up his investigation with an indictment of the State Department's Richard Armitage on the first day of his investigation since it was Armitage who revealed her name and Fitzgerald knew it.

With no crime to investigate, Fitzgerald pursued a pointless investigation into nothing, getting a lot of White House officials to make statements under oath and hoping some of their recollections would end up conflicting with other witness recollections, so he could charge some Republican with "perjury" and enjoy the fawning media attention.

As a result, Libby is now a convicted felon for having a faulty memory of the person who first told him that Joe Wilson was a delusional boob who lied about his wife sending him to Niger.

This makes it official: It's illegal to be Republican.

Since Teddy Kennedy walked away from a dead girl with only a wrist slap (which was knocked down to a mild talking-to, plus time served: zero), Democrats have apparently become a protected class in America, immune from criminal prosecution no matter what they do.

As a result, Democrats have run wild, accepting bribes, destroying classified information, lying under oath, molesting interns, driving under the influence, obstructing justice and engaging in sex with underage girls, among other things.

Meanwhile, conservatives of any importance constantly have to spend millions of dollars defending themselves from utterly frivolous criminal prosecutions. Everything is illegal, but only Republicans get prosecuted.

Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh was subjected to a three-year criminal investigation for allegedly buying prescription drugs illegally to treat chronic back pain. Despite the witch-hunt, Democrat prosecutor Barry E. Krischer never turned up a crime.

Even if he had, to quote liberal Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz: "Generally, people who illegally buy prescription drugs are not prosecuted." Unless they're Republicans.

The vindictive prosecution of Limbaugh finally ended last year with a plea bargain in which Limbaugh did not admit guilt. Gosh, don't you feel safer now? I know I do.

In another prescription drug case with a different result, last year, Rep. Patrick Kennedy (Democrat), apparently high as a kite on prescription drugs, crashed a car on Capitol Hill at 3 a.m. That's abuse of prescription drugs plus a DUI offense. Result: no charges whatsoever and one day of press on Fox News Channel.

I suppose one could argue those were different jurisdictions. How about the same jurisdiction?

In 2006, Democrat and major Clinton contributor Jeffrey Epstein was nabbed in Palm Beach in a massive police investigation into his hiring of local underage schoolgirls for sex, which I'm told used to be a violation of some kind of statute in the Palm Beach area.

The police presented Limbaugh prosecutor Krischer with boatloads of evidence, including the videotaped statements of five of Epstein's alleged victims, the procurer of the girls for Epstein and 16 other witnesses.

But the same prosecutor who spent three years maniacally investigating Limbaugh's alleged misuse of back-pain pills refused to bring statutory rape charges against a Clinton contributor. Enraging the police, who had spent months on the investigation, Krischer let Epstein off after a few hours on a single count of solicitation of prostitution. The Clinton supporter walked, and his victims [teenage girls --Yoni] were branded as whores.

The Republican former House Whip Tom DeLay is currently under indictment for a minor campaign finance violation. Democratic prosecutor Ronnie Earle had to empanel six grand juries before he could find one to indict DeLay on these pathetic charges -- and this is in Austin, Texas (the Upper West Side with better-looking people).

That final grand jury was so eager to indict DeLay that it indicted him on one charge that was not even a crime -- and which has since been tossed out by the courts.

After winning his primary despite the indictment, DeLay decided to withdraw from the race rather than campaign under a cloud of suspicion, and Republicans lost one of their strongest champions in Congress.

Compare DeLay's case with that of Rep. William "The Refrigerator" Jefferson, Democrat. Two years ago, an FBI investigation caught Jefferson on videotape taking $100,000 in bribe money. When the FBI searched Jefferson's house, they found $90,000 in cash stuffed in his freezer. Two people have already pleaded guilty to paying Jefferson the bribe money.

Two years later, Bush's Justice Department still has taken no action against Jefferson. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi recently put Rep. William Jefferson on the Homeland Security Committee.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Democrat, engaged in a complicated land swindle, buying a parcel of land for $400,000 and selling it for over $1 million a few years later. (At least it wasn't cattle futures!)

Reid also received more than four times as much money from Jack Abramoff (nearly $70,000) as Tom DeLay ($15,000). DeLay returned the money; Reid refuses to do so. Why should he? He's a Democrat.

Former Clinton national security adviser Sandy Berger literally received a sentence of community service for stuffing classified national security documents in his pants and then destroying them -- big, fat federal felonies.

But Scooter Libby is facing real prison time for forgetting who told him about some bozo's wife.

Bill Clinton was not even prosecuted for obstruction of justice offenses so egregious that the entire Supreme Court [yes, the liberals too! --Yonivre] staged a historic boycott of his State of the Union address in 2000.

By contrast, Linda Tripp, whose only mistake was befriending the office hosebag and then declining to perjure herself, spent millions on lawyers to defend a harassment prosecution based on far-fetched interpretations of state wiretapping laws.

Liberal law professors currently warning about the "high price" of pursuing terrorists under the Patriot Act had nothing but blood lust for Tripp one year after Clinton was impeached (Steven Lubet, "Linda Tripp Deserves to be Prosecuted," New York Times, 8/25/99).

Criminal prosecution is a surrogate for political warfare, but in this war, Republicans are gutless appeasers.

Bush has got to pardon Libby.
Well said. Maybe if she'd of used the word "faggot" this would have gotten some attention.

Don Quixote
03-09-2007, 11:30 AM
It's too bad that Newt had to do that. I'm glad he fessed up.

I still like his philosophy of government and his commitment to conservative principles of limited government, respect for faith and moral values, limited taxation, strong national defense, and pro-business policies. He's arguably the most "pure" conservative out there.

This is not to say that conservatives never mess up and don't live according to faith and values. They most certainly do. All I'm asking for is a basic respect for those things, which, unfortunately, the left doesn't always seem to have. Shoot, a liberal having an affair is a resume enhancer!

boutons_
03-09-2007, 11:37 AM
"Since Teddy Kennedy walked away from a dead girl "

holy shit. do you right-wing nuts ever quit beating a dead horse?

How about we anti-Repugs beat your asses for allowing the WTC attack and for starting and losing the bogus Iraq war, for the next 50 years? fair enough?

clambake
03-09-2007, 11:38 AM
I liberal having an affair can get you impeached.

Respect for faith and moral values? That's laughable. He's just another conservative that uses inauthentic expressions of faith. I wonder if he throws out the god word in bed? Or maybe he just screams "Jesus"!

ggoose25
03-09-2007, 12:08 PM
This is not to say that conservatives never mess up and don't live according to faith and values. They most certainly do. All I'm asking for is a basic respect for those things, which, unfortunately, the left doesn't always seem to have. Shoot, a liberal having an affair is a resume enhancer!

Basic respect?? How respectful were the Republicans when they found out Clinton had an affair. It was like a great white smelling blood in the water. They fought over who could take a bigger bite out of Bill, while they themselves had affairs.

I think you're right. Politicians, like everyone else, deserve respect when they have personal problems. But to say that liberals do not grant that and connote that repubs do is insane.

And people having affairs is not looked favorable upon by anyone. It is not in the least a resume enhancer.

Oh, Gee!!
03-09-2007, 01:56 PM
"I drew a line in my mind that said, 'Even though I run the risk of being deeply embarrassed, and even though at a purely personal level I am not rendering judgment on another human being, as a leader of the government trying to uphold the rule of law." (Newt [R-GA] on Clinton).

GEORGIA CODE
§ 16-6-19. Adultery

A married person commits the offense of adultery when he voluntarily has sexual intercourse with a person other than his spouse and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished as for a misdemeanor.

Yonivore
03-09-2007, 02:01 PM
"I drew a line in my mind that said, 'Even though I run the risk of being deeply embarrassed, and even though at a purely personal level I am not rendering judgment on another human being, as a leader of the government trying to uphold the rule of law." (Newt [R-GA] on Clinton).

GEORGIA CODE
§ 16-6-19. Adultery

A married person commits the offense of adultery when he voluntarily has sexual intercourse with a person other than his spouse and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished as for a misdemeanor.
Did the offense occur in Georgia or Washington, D. C. and is the Georgia statute enforced?

verbose
03-09-2007, 02:09 PM
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public/Fun/piss.gif


http://www.usd.edu/urelations/images/NewtGingrich.jpg

Oh, Gee!!
03-09-2007, 02:18 PM
Did the offense occur in Georgia or Washington, D. C. and is the Georgia statute enforced?


don't worry, Yoni. I'm sure your idol won't be arrested.

ChumpDumper
03-09-2007, 02:36 PM
Unfortunately, when she makes sense, the media doesn't bite.Ann has never made sense. His only appeal was his inflammatory language and the fact people like you think he is attractive.

Yonivore
03-09-2007, 02:41 PM
don't worry, Yoni. I'm sure your idol won't be arrested.
I wouldn't vote for him. I was just curious if your cite had any relevance to the conversation.

Oh, Gee!!
03-09-2007, 02:42 PM
I wouldn't vote for him. I was just curious if your cite had any relevance to the conversation.


You don't think it's relevant that Newt is all about law and order, yet breaking a law from his home state? Of course you don't, Newt's a republican.

You don't think it's relevant that Newt goes after Clinton for what Newt did himself? Of course not, Newt's a republican.

Yonivore
03-09-2007, 02:52 PM
You don't think it's relevant that Newt is all about law and order, yet breaking a law from his home state? Of course you don't, Newt's a republican.
I think it's relevant that if you're going to accuse someone of a crime (vis-a-vis citing a criminal statute) you should at least know if the statute applies to the accused. Therefore, I asked, did he commit the act in Georgia or Washington D.C. and does the State of Georgia prosecute that crime?


You don't think it's relevant that Newt goes after Clinton for what Newt did himself? Of course not, Newt's a republican.
Well, what do you know, Oh, Gee!! equates adultry to perjury, suborning perjury, and obstructing justice. Big surprise you don't understand the impeachment of President Clinton.

I'm shocked.

Oh, Gee!!
03-09-2007, 02:58 PM
I think it's relevant that if you're going to accuse someone of a crime (vis-a-vis citing a criminal statute) you should at least know if the statute applies to the accused. Therefore, I asked, did he commit the act in Georgia or Washington D.C. and does the State of Georgia prosecute that crime?

You find it irrelevant that Newt engaged in conduct that would be criminal for the people he was representing while he was representing them?


Well, what do you know, Oh, Gee!! equates adultry to perjury, suborning perjury, and obstructing justice. Big surprise you don't understand the impeachment of President Clinton.


I never made a comment about the impeachment of Clinton.

Yonivore
03-09-2007, 03:15 PM
You find it irrelevant that Newt engaged in conduct that would be criminal for the people he was representing while he was representing them?
That depends on to what you're trying to make it relevant.

If I go to Las Vegas to casino gamble should I worry that it is illegal in my home state?

I'm not saying what he did wasn't wrong or reprehensible even, but, you citing Georgia statute is more than a little irrelevant unless you're accusing hime of violating the statute. That's why I asked the questions.


I never made a comment about the impeachment of Clinton.
I'm sorry, did I misunderstand this quote?


You don't think it's relevant that Newt goes after Clinton for what Newt did himself? Of course not, Newt's a republican.

ChumpDumper
03-09-2007, 03:19 PM
Newt's a quitter -- it's the smartest thing he ever did. We shouldn't have him to kick around anymore.

xrayzebra
03-09-2007, 03:22 PM
Annie and Newt are my kind of people......they piss all the
the Libs off.......go girl..........and Newt, at least you told the
truth about it all. More than some folks I know.

FromWayDowntown
03-09-2007, 03:27 PM
Well, what do you know, Oh, Gee!! equates adultry to perjury, suborning perjury, and obstructing justice.

Wait -- I thought that Coulter just blasted the notion that anyone could be convicted for perjury and obstruction of justice that had no legal consequence. What, praytell, was the legal consequence, in Coulter's words, in President Clinton's case? Seriously. Not some concocted conspiracy theory or long-winded diatribe about President Clinton's ethics -- what real legal consequences arose from Mr. Clinton's alleged perjury?

1369
03-09-2007, 03:40 PM
Annie and Newt are my kind of people......they piss all the
the Libs off.......go girl..........and Newt, at least you told the
truth about it all. More than some folks I know.

The Newt who had affairs while he was married and worked on divorcing his first wife while she was working on recovering from cancer surgery?

Dude's a douchebag.

And a hypocritical one to boot.

Yonivore
03-09-2007, 09:17 PM
Wait -- I thought that Coulter just blasted the notion that anyone could be convicted for perjury and obstruction of justice that had no legal consequence. What, praytell, was the legal consequence, in Coulter's words, in President Clinton's case? Seriously. Not some concocted conspiracy theory or long-winded diatribe about President Clinton's ethics -- what real legal consequences arose from Mr. Clinton's alleged perjury?
Why would you cite Ann Coulter?

And, what real legal consequence arose from Mr. Clinton's perjury?

Well, had he not been caught lying, Ms. Jones would have not been able to establish his lecherous pattern with women and may not have prevailed in her suit against him.

Mr. Clinton's perjury served as an attempt deny Paula Jones her Constitutional right to due process and it also showed a blatant disregard for the U.S. Constitution Clinton swore to defend and uphold in his oath of office.

I consider those real legal consequences. What real legal consequence arose from Libby's alleged perjury?

Guru of Nothing
03-09-2007, 10:24 PM
Annie and Newt are my kind of people

Careful Xray, Jesus is reading this thread.

gtownspur
03-09-2007, 10:51 PM
Careful Xray, Jesus is reading this thread.


I didn't know you could translate this page in spanish! Como no! ah haye!

Guru of Nothing
03-09-2007, 11:00 PM
I didn't know

To be expected in a thread about morals.

gtownspur
03-09-2007, 11:54 PM
To be expected in a thread about morals.


Ex. Can't cope with others sarcasm.

Guru of Nothing
03-10-2007, 12:13 AM
Ex. Can't cope with others sarcasm.

Ibid.

AFE7FATMAN
03-10-2007, 02:24 AM
Could he just go away and take Ann Coulter and the rest of CPAC with him so they don't fuck up my Republican Party any more? (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1597666,00.html?cnn=yes)

:clap :clap :clap

ChumpDumper
03-10-2007, 04:00 AM
Gingrich is running for president.

Book it.

BIG IRISH
03-10-2007, 06:37 AM
Gingrich is running for president.

Book it.


Yep, Run all he want's but he won't get the nomination. BOOK THAT

boutons_
03-10-2007, 01:06 PM
"would have not been able to establish"

... MAY not ...

Mellon Scaif/FLAG financed Paula Jones, who was assisted legally by ... Anne Coulter.