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Phil Hellmuth
03-15-2007, 09:45 PM
Penn Jillete on There is No God

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5015557

I believe that there is no God. I'm beyond atheism. Atheism is not believing in God. Not believing in God is easy -- you can't prove a negative, so there's no work to do. You can't prove that there isn't an elephant inside the trunk of my car. You sure? How about now? Maybe he was just hiding before. Check again. Did I mention that my personal heartfelt definition of the word "elephant" includes mystery, order, goodness, love and a spare tire?

So, anyone with a love for truth outside of herself has to start with no belief in God and then look for evidence of God. She needs to search for some objective evidence of a supernatural power. All the people I write e-mails to often are still stuck at this searching stage. The atheism part is easy.

But, this "This I Believe" thing seems to demand something more personal, some leap of faith that helps one see life's big picture, some rules to live by. So, I'm saying, "This I believe: I believe there is no God."

Having taken that step, it informs every moment of my life. I'm not greedy. I have love, blue skies, rainbows and Hallmark cards, and that has to be enough. It has to be enough, but it's everything in the world and everything in the world is plenty for me. It seems just rude to beg the invisible for more. Just the love of my family that raised me and the family I'm raising now is enough that I don't need heaven. I won the huge genetic lottery and I get joy every day.

Believing there's no God means I can't really be forgiven except by kindness and faulty memories. That's good; it makes me want to be more thoughtful. I have to try to treat people right the first time around.

Believing there's no God stops me from being solipsistic. I can read ideas from all different people from all different cultures. Without God, we can agree on reality, and I can keep learning where I'm wrong. We can all keep adjusting, so we can really communicate. I don't travel in circles where people say, "I have faith, I believe this in my heart and nothing you can say or do can shake my faith." That's just a long-winded religious way to say, "shut up," or another two words that the FCC likes less. But all obscenity is less insulting than, "How I was brought up and my imaginary friend means more to me than anything you can ever say or do." So, believing there is no God lets me be proven wrong and that's always fun. It means I'm learning something.

Believing there is no God means the suffering I've seen in my family, and indeed all the suffering in the world, isn't caused by an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent force that isn't bothered to help or is just testing us, but rather something we all may be able to help others with in the future. No God means the possibility of less suffering in the future.

Believing there is no God gives me more room for belief in family, people, love, truth, beauty, sex, Jell-O and all the other things I can prove and that make this life the best life I will ever have.

Guru of Nothing
03-15-2007, 10:07 PM
Penn Jillete on There is No God

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5015557


I believe that there is no God.

Beliefs are a dime a dozen.

The rest is up to you.

smeagol
03-15-2007, 10:11 PM
I believe in God.

This Penn guy will probably hate me.

PixelPusher
03-15-2007, 10:37 PM
I believe in God.

This Penn guy will probably hate me.
Why? Are all athiests pre-disposed to hate believers?

Phil Hellmuth
03-15-2007, 10:45 PM
Why? Are all athiests pre-disposed to hate believers?

it seems to be the common misconception.

Don Quixote
03-16-2007, 12:01 AM
No, Jillette seems to be that breed of atheist that thinks anyone who believes in God is a deluded fool. Not all atheists are like this, but he is.

I read this article months ago. It sounds like a 10th grader wrote it. I'm pretty sure a fairly new Christian (or a beginner at believing in God) could defeat his rather simplistic reasoning. First of all, belief in God, at least to the Christian, is not a blind leap of faith, against all evidence, in the great whatever, or an imaginary friend. I could say alot more on this, however, if anyone is interested.

bottom line -- there are some far more informed and thoughtful atheists out there than this joker. I happen to respect Daniel Dennett quite a bit, who comes with far better arguments than this sophomoric drivel. I don't agree with Dennett's evolutionary theory of everything, but he is thoughtful and well-considered.