Damn Refs Nearly Cost Us the Game [Archive]

Dalamar_the_Dark

03-23-2007, 09:37 PM

OMG. We nearly lost cause the damn refs were making ridiculous calls at the end. Late whistle on Bowen for a questionable foul on Rip. But that call to give Detroit a time out when Billups didnt have posession of the ball was really ridiculous. I mean he threw the ball away and then made the sign. :madrun :madrun

At least Manu made amends for that stupid turnover by icing free throws to win the game. If not we would be cursing the damn refs again. :bang :bang :bang

ShoogarBear

03-23-2007, 09:39 PM

I only started watching at the end of the third. The refs were ridiculous both ways.

The Spurs were trying to give it away all by themselves.

ABDENOUR POWER

03-23-2007, 09:42 PM

San Antonio got the favorable whistle for the first 3.5 quarters, and then Detroit got it down the stretch. Horrible officiating both ways.

No need to overreact, though. The refs didn't determine the outcome of the game.

Chris

03-23-2007, 09:42 PM

The Refs were horrible all game. Even Elliott started mentioning it.

SequSpur

03-23-2007, 09:43 PM

Questionable foul? Bowen practically knocked him over... If that was TP, you'd be begging for a flagrant.

ShoogarBear

03-23-2007, 09:45 PM

You're begging for the flagrant, dude. :ihit

SequSpur

03-23-2007, 09:46 PM

You're begging for the flagrant, dude. :ihit

:lol

SequSpur

03-23-2007, 09:49 PM

Pop had some dumb rotations in that fourth quarter and he is damn lucky Bowen stopped everyone all by himself. :D

Man Mountain

03-23-2007, 09:52 PM

Refs sucked on both sides, but they didn't almost lose the game for the Spurs.

SpursWillOwn

03-23-2007, 09:53 PM

Did u guys see the charge Rip took against Brent? omg it's air contact and definitely the worst of flops =(!!!

Bob Lanier

03-23-2007, 09:59 PM

I can only imagine what this board would be life if you actually beat the Mavs this year.

JamStone

03-23-2007, 10:05 PM

Refs had some pretty poor calls both ways all night long. Rasheed did far less than Tony Parker and Elson when arguing calls to get a technical foul. Rasheed also didn't get a to the hoop call when he got fouled on a fade-away jumper. Duncan got a couple of chippies as well with very minimal contact.

Chauncey and Rip both had a few flops in the game, I'll admit that. But, Chauncey's big flop on the 3 pointer, well, he didn't get a call. Chauncey is very adept at drawing body contact fouls when he's just dribbling the ball. And, we all know Manu has been notorious for exaggerating contact throughout his career. The few games I've watched, it looks as though he's not as big a flopper now, but plenty of players do it.

Solid D

03-23-2007, 10:08 PM

ponky

03-23-2007, 10:16 PM

The Refs were horrible all game. Even Elliott started mentioning it.

oh, well there you go :rolleyes

T Park

03-23-2007, 10:16 PM

You know youll never get that answer.

Shortshit thinks John Lucas is a better coach.

ponky

03-23-2007, 10:17 PM

I can only imagine what this board would be life if you actually beat the Mavs this year.

on the flip side, this thread is a preview of what it will be like if the spurs don't beat the mavs

Roxsfan

03-23-2007, 10:23 PM

http://hcms.eanes.k12.tx.us/hctv/dont_mess_with_texas_lg_clr.gif

no I will not stop posting that.

spurs almost screwed up the texas-trampling of the pistons. :elephant

SequSpur

03-23-2007, 10:25 PM

? What were they and what would have been more advisable in your judgment?

Expand and elaborate.

watch a game.

Behrooz24

03-23-2007, 10:33 PM

Anyone else yell 'BALL DON'T LIE!' after Rip missed those 2 FTs?

samikeyp

03-23-2007, 10:33 PM

oh, well there you go

You think he is bad....try having to listen to George Blaha.

ponky

03-23-2007, 10:36 PM

You think he is bad....try having to listen to George Blaha.

elliott is just the ultimate homer and i can't stand him but obviously that's because i don't root for the spurs...i totally see why spurs fans like him

you're right, blaha is just downright terrible, no which ways about it

samikeyp

03-23-2007, 10:37 PM

To be fair....Elliott is just as quick to rip a Spur as he is to praise him.

SequSpur

03-23-2007, 10:37 PM

there is homer all over tonight, the spurs almost lost another homegame on a soldout friday night..

they showed up for the first quarter and then got their asses kicked. thanks to bonner they won... :lol

JamStone

03-23-2007, 10:38 PM

You think he is bad....try having to listen to George Blaha.

Blaha tries to disguise his homerism most of the time. But, it's definitely there. It's more noticeable for people who aren't Pistons fans, just like Sean Elliot's homerism is more noticeable to non Spurs fans. Blaha is an acquired taste. He's pretty good if you've followed the Pistons long enough.

I don't think anyone tops the Chicago Bulls' TV guys in terms of an over-the-top homerism call of a game.

samikeyp

03-23-2007, 10:40 PM

just like Sean Elliot's homerism is more noticeable to non Spurs fans

Actually I called Elliott a homer as well. :wtf

Well, when Blaha said that Bowen "punched" Rip at the end of the game to send him to the line...that is when hit mute.

ponky

03-23-2007, 10:41 PM

Blaha tries to disguise his homerism most of the time. But, it's definitely there. It's more noticeable for people who aren't Pistons fans, just like Sean Elliot's homerism is more noticeable to non Spurs fans. Blaha is an acquired taste. He's pretty good if you've followed the Pistons long enough.

I don't think anyone tops the Chicago Bulls' TV guys in terms of an over-the-top homerism call of a game.

that's true. i think, when listening to other guys, you can tell how much of a homer they are based on how they react to the officiating :lol

SequSpur

03-23-2007, 10:41 PM

No offense, but I appreciate homerism when I watch the Spurs. I also appreciate the home fans in the ATT center beating the shit out of the opposition fans...

sorry, but that's just the way it is.

If you ain't first.... your last.

samikeyp

03-23-2007, 10:45 PM

To me...the homerism is the only thing I don't like about Elliott's broadcasting.

mardigan

03-23-2007, 10:49 PM

I didnt see the game, they dont show it where I live, but how did Barry look? The box score looked good

angel_luv

03-23-2007, 10:51 PM

The refs were awful in the fourth. I felt like we were getting penalized for making hustle plays. So infuriating!

Kori Ellis

03-23-2007, 10:52 PM

Refs sucked on both sides in this game. I thought they were blind on some plays, but it was pretty evenly sucky.

SPURS vs NBA media

03-23-2007, 10:55 PM

Questionable foul? Bowen practically knocked him over... If that was TP, you'd be begging for a flagrant.

:ban: :ban: :ban: :stfu :stfu :stfu

Solid D

03-23-2007, 11:15 PM

Pop had some dumb rotations in that fourth quarter and he is damn lucky Bowen stopped everyone all by himself. :D

? What were they and what would have been more advisable in your judgment?

Expand and elaborate.

watch a game.

Not a surprising response. I didn't think you could but I did give you the benefit of the doubt and I did ask nicely.

SequSpur

03-23-2007, 11:20 PM

Not a surprising response. I didn't think you could but I did give your the benefit of the doubt and I did ask nicely.

It was a great question. Good job.

T Park

03-23-2007, 11:24 PM

Typical question you couldn't answer :lmao

SequSpur

03-23-2007, 11:25 PM

Typical question you couldn't answer :lmao

:sleep

Solid D

03-23-2007, 11:25 PM

Let me help you, then. Perhaps you were talking about when Parker had to rest. When TP had to go to the bench, the Spurs suffered and had their lead trimmed. The first half with Jacque Vaughn and in the 4th with Beno. The Spurs stood around a bit too much and didn't move the ball very well against the zone. Fortunately, Parker played well and was key in the win.

T Park

03-23-2007, 11:26 PM

To me...the homerism is the only thing I don't like about Elliott's broadcasting.

oh come on, loosen the heck up.

Its a hometown broadcast, i want to hear it from THAt point of view.

If I want "objective" wich Im completely sick of that goddamn word, Ill listen to the other team, or ESPN or TNT.

Other than that. Give me the darn homecooking.

Screw "objective"

mikeanthony21

03-23-2007, 11:31 PM

Questionable foul? Bowen practically knocked him over... If that was TP, you'd be begging for a flagrant.

The contact wasn't questionable... the amount of time it took the ref to dislodge the whistle from his throat was. :madrun

samikeyp

03-23-2007, 11:52 PM

oh come on, loosen the heck up.

Its a hometown broadcast, i want to hear it from THAt point of view.

If I want "objective" wich Im completely sick of that goddamn word, Ill listen to the other team, or ESPN or TNT.

Other than that. Give me the darn homecooking.

Screw "objective"

You like it...that's fine....I don't and don't have to.

Maybe you should stop trying to tell people what they should and shouldn't like or do.

THE SIXTH MAN

03-23-2007, 11:59 PM

samikeyp

03-24-2007, 12:03 AM

Whats wrong with Sean being a homer for a team that he's been apart of for so long? Besides don't they still pay him for doing the broadcast? And its not like he doesn't give respect to the opposing team. He always has nothing but good things to say about each team the spurs play. Like some one said earlier in the thread, he's the first one to criticize the team to.

That was me. :)

I like Sean and always have....he is funny as hell, I think he does a great job and I don't think he is as huge of a homer as people like to believe but I think at times he can be. I agree with you also about him being respectful of the other team. I have heard him compliment many opposing players many times.
I know that all team broadcasters can be homerish and I understand it. You essentially work for the team and are around them almost year-round. I understand the homerism and I know its part of the deal...I am just not a huge fan of that particular element of the job. I don't really even consider it "wrong"...Its really a personal preference thing, not a suggested course of action to anyone. :toast

THE SIXTH MAN

03-24-2007, 12:09 AM

That was me.

I like Sean and always have....he is funny as hell, I think he does a great job and I don't think he is as huge of a homer as people like to believe but I think at times he can be. I know that all team broadcasters can be homerish and I understand it. You essentially work for the team and are around them almost year-round. I understand the homerism and I know its part of the deal...I am just not a huge fan of that particular element of the job. Its really a personal preference thing, not a suggested course of action to anyone. :toast
My post really wasn't directed towards anybody. But as far as Elliot goes he's one of my all time favorite Spurs. :flag:

samikeyp

03-24-2007, 12:16 AM

But as far as Elliot goes he's one of my all time favorite Spurs

Mine too.

The week of the 99 finals, he signed a pic for me of him pointing to Mario Elie after the MDM. Its a copy of the Express-News sports page headline the next day...got it framed and hanging in the house....one of the nicest guys you will ever meet.

T Park

03-24-2007, 12:23 AM

Maybe you should stop trying to tell people what they should and shouldn't like or do.

loosen up is telling people what they should like?

my oh my.

When the shoes on the other foot with you hypocrits.

samikeyp

03-24-2007, 12:24 AM

No....telling people to loosen up just because you don't agree with them is telling people what they should like and should do. As I explained...its a personal preference I have. You have yours, I have mine.

And when have I ever been hypocritical to or about you?

Dave McNulla

03-24-2007, 01:33 AM

on the flip side, this thread is a preview of what it will be like if the spurs don't beat the mavs
it'll be like this no matter who wins, and the same at mavtalk too. whining and crying about calls.

milkyway21

03-24-2007, 02:05 AM

Parker had 10 points as San Antonio quickly took control in the first quarter, leading by as many as 13. The Spurs' shooting clearly frustrated the Pistons, evidenced when Wallace got a technical early in the second for complaining. It was Wallace's 18th technical of the season, meaning he'll face another one-game suspension.

"I wish they would review the whole 48 (minutes)," said Pistons coach Flip Saunders. "If they're going to give him a 'T' for that, there should have been about four others called at least."

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so, Rasheed will be sitting on the bench on their next game against the Bucks?

THE SIXTH MAN

03-24-2007, 02:11 AM

ShoogarBear

03-24-2007, 09:06 AM

on the flip side, this thread is a preview of what it will be like if the spurs don't beat the mavsWhat you should have noticed is the difference between what happens when we interact with an intelligent, knowledgeable fan base (the Pistons fans) versus the drooling pack of Cubanoids.

Viva Las Espuelas

03-24-2007, 10:04 AM

on the flip side, this thread is a preview of what it will be like if the spurs don't beat the mavseveryone and everybody does that. is this an astounding revelation, punky? you were lighting up your keyboard after the golden state loss showing how much "it didn't effect" you. funny how you were "showing it" for long after the game was over. please, mav "fan" stick to the nba forum.

Viva Las Espuelas

03-24-2007, 10:06 AM

elliott is just the ultimate homer and i can't stand him but obviously that's because i don't root for the spurs...i totally see why spurs fans like him

you're right, blaha is just downright terrible, no which ways about itand bob ortegel is an unbiased commentator. compared to bob, I could listen to bill walton for the whole playoffs. again, punky, no astounding revelation here. all teams have homer commentators. get over it. stay in the nba forum.

Viva Las Espuelas

03-24-2007, 10:07 AM

To me...the homerism is the only thing I don't like about Elliott's broadcasting.you think that is bad. you need to check out a mav game and listen to bob ortegal. he's dreadful.

Sec24Row7

03-24-2007, 10:40 AM

I actually thing Elliot is one of the most NON-homer basketball announces that announces for a TEAM.

If you announce for a team you are SUPPOSED to be a little bit of a homer... but he always is admitting that our players fouled... saying we shouldnt complain, that we dont have a gripe... says that opposing players got robbed etc...

DarrinS

03-24-2007, 10:56 AM

Refs called that game badly -- on both sides.

spurastic

03-24-2007, 11:18 AM

Eddie Rush #62 was the ref who called the game so poorly (and in my opinion-- with an attempt to give the Pistons an advantage or at least the Spurs a disadvantage.) Does he always officiate games poorly or is it just against teams he doesn't like? I was at the game and then watched again at home. Why do they allow Refs with such poor skills continue? Rush's family connections?

Solid D

03-24-2007, 12:11 PM

Eddie has been noticeably odd on his calls over the years.

sa_butta

03-24-2007, 12:34 PM

Anyone else yell 'BALL DON'T LIE!' after Rip missed those 2 FTs?Guilty.

Chauncey was crying for the call at the end and Bruce did not even touch him.
He kicked his leg out.

Solid D

03-24-2007, 12:48 PM

Guilty.

Chauncey was crying for the call at the end and Bruce did not even touch him.
He kicked his leg out.

If you were talking about that straight-on three attempt...it was actually Parker defending. It didn't look like Tony even touched Billups. The newspaper said that Billups heard Pop telling TP to foul him, so when TP got up close and extended his left arm, Chauncey hoisted and tried to draw the foul.

Clutch20

03-24-2007, 12:58 PM

Multiple choice:

A referee is________________

A. a sports official usually having final authority in administering a game
B. a mediator familiar with the rules iof a sporting competition
C. one who observes and makes decisions at a sporting event between 2 or
... more competitors
D. a clueless somewhat biased premeditated observer whose primary duties
... are to carry out front office directives. :spin