View Full Version : Blazers getting Vince Carter and Jalen Rose!
tlongII
11-18-2004, 05:54 PM
It appears we are trading Shareef and DA for the two Raptors. Probably a couple other minor players in the mix as well.
timvp
11-18-2004, 05:57 PM
Link?
This sounds like when you were trading Shareef for Kidd.
TheWriter
11-18-2004, 05:59 PM
I was about to say that: So the Blazers will now have Kidd, Vince and Rose... huh tlong? lol
tlongII
11-18-2004, 06:01 PM
No link. It's on the Blazer board that I frequent. Here's one of the threads.
http://basketballboards.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125334&pagenumber=5
The Kidd deal was from the board as well.
Marcus Bryant
11-18-2004, 06:01 PM
Great. If true, that means we are going to be subjected to years' worth of threads from Ghost Writer about how the Spurs could have gotten Vince Carter if they had kept DA.
That is, unless you are like me and have Mr. Sandman to take out that garbage...
:smokin
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TheWriter
11-18-2004, 06:02 PM
tlong, you didn't learn from the first rumor posting that it's not a good idea to post a rumor that will probably not happen. It makes you look like an ass. Wait. It makes you look like more of an ass.
ChumpDumper
11-18-2004, 06:03 PM
The Kidd deal was from the board as well.So it's a lock then, right?
tlongII
11-18-2004, 06:04 PM
tlong, you didn't learn from the first rumor posting that it's not a good idea to post a rumor that will probably not happen. It makes you look like an ass. Wait. It makes you look like more of an ass.
...and I care what you think because?????
T Park
11-18-2004, 06:06 PM
Buddy Holly on forum decor, how appropriate
TheWriter
11-18-2004, 06:07 PM
Because you waste bandwidth with your stupid rumors from another fan board.
And you need not care what I think. But I can think what I want.
TheWriter
11-18-2004, 06:08 PM
Buddy Holly on forum decor, how appropriate
I know, it's like you giving someone diet tips. It's funny. :elephant
Marcus Bryant
11-18-2004, 06:08 PM
Mr. Sandman, you missed a spot:
This message is hidden because T Park is on your ignore list.
"Sorry about that Mr. Bryant. I won't let it happen again."
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exstatic
11-18-2004, 06:08 PM
VC sucks.
tlongII
11-18-2004, 06:10 PM
Because you waste bandwidth with your stupid rumors from another fan board.
And you need not care what I think. But I can think what I want.
If that is true then aren't you wasting bandwidth with your responses? Do you want to think about that before you respond?
tlongII
11-18-2004, 06:18 PM
Here's a link.
http://www.oregonlive.com/weblogs/blazersblog/
ShoogarBear
11-18-2004, 07:54 PM
Perfect, Jalen is interested in scoring some primo west coast hash. Anyone on the Blazers who might be able to help?
Ignite
11-18-2004, 09:11 PM
The big question is, How would this affect Fantasy Teams?
sickdsm
11-18-2004, 09:53 PM
That's a downgrade for the blazers by addition. VC is going to take shots away from Zach. Zach does his business in the paint. Darius Miles is a great defender. The less he plays the worse that team is. Darius and Ratliff are key to that team, Zach do the bulk of the scoring. I don't like that trade from either team.
sickdsm
11-18-2004, 09:54 PM
"The Vince Carter trade talks have heated up once more, as THE FAN 1080 radio station in Portland reports that both the Trail Blazers and Toronto Raptors have trade scenarios on the table that would send Carter and Jalen Rose to Portland. According to THE FAN, the Raptors are asking for forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim and guard Nick Van Exel in ongoing discussions that go 'beyond the rumour stage.' The Trail Blazers reportedly do not want to include Van Exel and are offering Abdur-Rahim, guard Derek Anderson, along with center Vladimir Stepania or forward Qyntel Woods."
Aggie Hoopsfan
11-18-2004, 09:54 PM
How many point guards does Portland plan on running? Five?
RobinsontoDuncan
11-18-2004, 10:01 PM
what i dont get is WHY THE FUCK WOULD TORONTO MAKE THIS TRADE, THIS MAKES NO SENSE FOR THEM WHAT SO EVER therfore i conclude, it wont happen.
atlfan25
11-18-2004, 10:06 PM
cuz vince carter sucks and when shareef gets playing time he is a 20 and 10 guy. and maybe also cuz shareef isn't a cry baby.
sickdsm
11-18-2004, 10:10 PM
Shareef wouldn't want to stay in toronto after this year.
TwoHandJam
11-18-2004, 10:16 PM
vBookie on how many weeks before Zach breaks Carter's eye socket?
Duff McCartney
11-18-2004, 10:32 PM
Aren't the Raptors actually doing pretty good this year?
exstatic
11-18-2004, 10:39 PM
Toronto wouldn't be doing this deal so that Reef stays long term...
Kori Ellis
11-19-2004, 01:20 AM
This deal looks legit ...
ESPN.com news services
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1926133
Vince Carter might finally get his wish: a ticket out of Toronto.
The Raptors and Trail Blazers are discussing a blockbuster seven-player trade that would send Carter to Portland, ESPN's Stephen A. Smith has learned.
In exchange for Carter, Jalen Rose and two other unnamed players, Toronto would receive forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim, center Vladimir Stepania and guard Derek Anderson from Portland. Toronto proposed the multiplayer deal, Smith reports.
Carter asked during the summer to be traded but the Raptors had hoped the All-Star guard would change his mind. Toronto hasn't made the playoffs the past two seasons, and Sam Mitchell will be Carter's third coach in three years.
Carter told the Toronto Star in the offseason that "It's time for the truth: I want to be traded." Carter also said in a letter to fans posted on his Web site that he's not eager to wait while the team rebuilds.
"My frustration comes from the fact that we have not been able to create an equation to win ballgames," Carter wrote. "I am at the point in my career where I do not have time to wait two to four years for a team to mature."
Carter has four years remaining on his contract and remains one of the NBA's most popular players because of his highlight-reel dunks. But knee injuries have caused him to lose some of his explosiveness.
GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
11-19-2004, 01:26 AM
i like kenny smiths nickname for VC
HALF MAN ; HALF A SEASON
toosmallshoes
11-19-2004, 03:01 AM
Is portland really that much of a step up? Those guys are rebuilding too.
polandprzem
11-19-2004, 03:57 AM
I hope PTB don't have Duncan yet.
If I was the Toronto GM I would make this move in a second. Get out from under VC and Rose, and get two quality guys like DA and SAR. . . . . sounds like a great situation for the raps.
Sportcamper
11-19-2004, 01:33 PM
Was Jalen Rose the one who called time out or was it Webber? I forget....
Can't believe that guy was available....
spurs_fan_in_exile
11-19-2004, 01:38 PM
Webber was the one who called the infamous phantom TO. This trade is really just rearranging deck chairs on sinking ships. SAR might help bring a little post punch to the Raptors, but I really can't see VC making an impact in Portland. Too many guards on that roster already and he'll get injured. His knees are timed better than a Swiss clock.
I hope Toronto realizes that SAR was upset because he was having to play out of position, and they already have a PF in Chris Bosh.
sickdsm
11-19-2004, 04:08 PM
He played center last year though.
TMSKILZ
11-19-2004, 06:15 PM
Raps definitely get the better deal.
DA & SAR are better players than JR & VC, but not when it comes to popularity.
You add a healthy DA & SAR to a lineup with Alvin Willams(PG) & C.Bosh(PF/C), you have a much better team. I would guess that SAR will slide into PF & Bosh to center.
sickdsm
11-19-2004, 06:40 PM
True, but if God was blessing us all, wouldn't he already be blessing america, the spurs and the cowboys?
FilSpursFan
11-19-2004, 06:59 PM
vBookie on how many weeks before Zach breaks Carter's eye socket?
:lol
baseline bum
11-19-2004, 07:05 PM
"My frustration comes from the fact that we have not been able to create an equation to win ballgames," Carter wrote.
Here's an equation for the Raptors:
Carter = Sucks
==> Toronto + Carter = Toronto Sucks
Seriously, he's one of the players I would never want on the Spurs for anything. I wouldn't trade Sean Marks or Massenburg for that jerkoff. He's had a horrible attitude for years, he's never gotten along with teammates, he has a huge ego, he's soft and afraid of contact, shoots too many jumpers, etc. The only player in the league I'd take Carter over is probably Antoine Walker, far and away the worst player in the NBA right now.
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