James White Hall of Famer

[ManuMagic]

Finally got first points tonight. Should be starting :rolleyes

[DON VITO]

I see that he is in the game. After the game is over, please say what you thought of his play.

[SequSpur]

White > Bonner, Beno, Oberto.

[SequSpur]

Dude should be starting over Bruce Bowen.

[Kori Ellis]

No reason for multiple threads.

There's a game blog and another White thread.

[DON VITO]

Is this his first action of the season?

[Kori Ellis]

Is this his first action of the season?

Yes

[RC's Boss]

Dammit Kori, I type slow you cut off my comment. I will not sing at your birthday party for free now!!!!!!!!!

[RC's Boss]

Flight White!

[SequSpur]

White if the troof!!!!!!

:fro

[spursparker9]

is white jeresy number 0 or 33?

[SilverPlayer]

Nice Dunk to end it...that was sweet

[Kori Ellis]

I'm glad Oberto got that pass to him. It was going to be a shame if he couldn't dunk in this game.

He's number 33.

[RC's Boss]

I love White people!

[T-Pain]

james effin white

[ShoogarBear]

Can you believe I watched every freaking second of garbage time until the very end, just to see him dunk, and missed it?

:madrun

[Trainwreck2100]

His D kinda sucked though.

[RC's Boss]

I hope Pop gets him some more PT. Although it was garbage time, he didn't look lost like Ely and Butler do. He also mixed it up a bit inside to try and grab some boards.

[jaespur21]

He had a sweet 1handed oop

[mardigan]

Can you believe I watched every freaking second of garbage time until the very end, just to see him dunk, and missed it?

:madrun
I truly cant believe that, you were talking about the whole time he was in then missed it, kind of funny though

[Pugglekicker_21]

We need more 40 point blow outs for White PT.

[RC's Boss]

Can you believe I watched every freaking second of garbage time until the very end, just to see him dunk, and missed it?

:madrun
DVR dude. You must have it and League Pass to take full advantage of all that Spursdom has to offer. :smokin

[Kori Ellis]

Can you believe I watched every freaking second of garbage time until the very end, just to see him dunk, and missed it?

:madrun

What the hell!? How did you miss it? :lol

[DannyT]

he had decent rotation
just that possession that he held the rock to long dribblin on his own
but i was more pissed that jv wasnt runnin the floor with him in the game he wanted to half court it
but i agree im glad he got his

[jbspurs]

Can you believe I watched every freaking second of garbage time until the very end, just to see him dunk, and missed it?

:madrun


MISSED IT?

[Kori Ellis]

Although it was garbage time, he didn't look lost like Ely and Butler do.


I agree. He didn't close out shooters or do anything really right defensively. But he looked very confident and not lost at all. :tu

[Russ]

The spittin image of Stephen Jackson -- both looks and movements. Probably attitude as well. Headband, check. Glazed eyes, check. Next year he probably hits a bunch of 3s to clinch the championship. Then he leaves.

[ShoogarBear]

C'mon, guys. Can you spare a brotha a youtube?

[2centsworth]

He has a ways to go. Gets little to no seperation from defenders and didn't show the strength to penetrate. But for his first game, not bad.

[SequSpur]

I agree. He didn't close out shooters or do anything really right defensively. But he looked very confident and not lost at all. :tu

He looked great... he was playing with Bonner, Beno and Oberto... The 3 stooges...

i honestly don't understand why these guys are still on the team... uh.. okay.. maybe bonner... but wtf??

Beno is T E R R I B L E.

[SANANTOJAMES]

James White was worth the wait I just hope he sees more playing time.

[jbspurs]

he had decent rotation
just that possession that he held the rock to long dribblin on his own
but i was more pissed that jv wasnt runnin the floor with him in the game he wanted to half court it
but i agree im glad he got his


I know! I HATE IT!!!!

[Kori Ellis]

He looked great... he was playing with Bonner, Beno and Oberto... The 3 stooges...

i honestly don't understand why these guys are still on the team... uh.. okay.. maybe bonner... but wtf??

Beno is T E R R I B L E.

Beno was embarrassingly terrible in garbage time tonight. I'm not even sure what his last shot attempt was. At first I thought it got blocked, but no .. it didn't. Then I thought maybe it was a pass. It wasn't (I don't think). I guess it was just Beno *shrug*

He also ruined it. Everyone shot 50%+ on the team but him. 0-for-4 :td

[timvp]

It was nice to see a player for the Spurs step onto the court and be aggressive from his first minute. That usually takes about two seasons.

[BeerIsGood!]

White looked pretty good for a rook. Needs work defensively

[ShoogarBear]

Not to mention that White passed up a possible dunk attempt to pass it out to Beno, who bricked the bunny.

[DannyT]

do you think pop will hold on to him

[Solid D]

White said in post-game on radio that Oberto told him during the timeout if he got it on the low block, to look for the ball because he was going to put it up there for him (James).

Defensively James rotated sort of okay, but he was slow to close-out well on the 3 point shooters. He had inefficient, extra motion to get out on them. James scored 9 but gave up 12.

[SequSpur]

I was going to post on Beno's myspace last night, but I couldn't stop laughing and I didn't know what to say because there are a bunch of spammer messages on it... :lol

And then his friend pics looked like a bunch of hootchy mammas... What a got damn tool...

Beno has got to go... :lol

[SequSpur]

It was nice to see a player for the Spurs step onto the court and be aggressive from his first minute. That usually takes about two seasons.

Agree.

[timvp]

Defensively James rotated sort of okay, but he was slow to close-out well on the 3 point shooters.

True. When he rotated to the three-point shooters, he was cutting off penetration to the middle instead of contesting the shots. But I'm sure he has nightmares of Pop going crazy in practice when anyone allows anybody to go middle on the defense.

[ManuMagic]

Not to mention that White passed up a possible dunk attempt to pass it out to Beno, who bricked the bunny.

I can't even call what beno put up a brick. It either hit the side of the backboard or was blocked all together. Absolutely pathetic from the man purse.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but White was guarding Pietrus correct?

[Kori Ellis]

I can't even call what beno put up a brick. It either hit the side of the backboard or was blocked all together. Absolutely pathetic from the man purse.

:lol We replayed it and I still don't know what happened. It didn't get blocked. :wtf

[ShoogarBear]

To be fair, garbage time against a team playing no real defense whatsoever is no kind of evaluation.

timvp is right, the best thing about him is that he was aggressive. But not overly so, and except for one possession where he dribbled out the clock was contributing to good ball movement.

Certainly, I think he showed enought that we'd all like to see him during meaningful minutes.

[timvp]

I can't even call what beno put up a brick. It either hit the side of the backboard or was blocked all together. Absolutely pathetic from the man purse.

I replayed that shot like five times to try to figure out WTF happened. It just looks like Beno missed the basket by about 14 feet.

[SilverPlayer]

You guys may be impressed with his play, but I don't think he has it.

He looked enthusiastic enough. He kept the mental mistakes down, and he knows how to penetrate.

But I didn't see it in him. To me he looks like a poor imitation of Devin Harris. He can't rebound. He literally had two rebounds in his hands taken away from him. He can't hold his position. He's afraid to shoot at any range, which will make him an easy scout.

Its just a guess, but I don't see him staying in the league very long.

[DannyT]

he just didnt have any effort when closin them out i agree just put one hand up and then clappin in disappointment when then where made isnt going to cut it
but he was crashin for boards on dee and offensively

[timvp]

Certainly, I think he showed enought that we'd all like to see him during meaningful minutes.

To me, he just showed that he's worth an invite to camp next year. It's probably too late for him to do anything else other than play garbage time minutes this year.

[Kori Ellis]

To be fair, garbage time against a team playing no real defense whatsoever is no kind of evaluation.

timvp is right, the best thing about him is that he was aggressive. But not overly so, and except for one possession where he dribbled out the clock was contributing to good ball movement.

Certainly, I think he showed enought that we'd all like to see him during meaningful minutes.

Yes, that possession where he was trying to go Streetball on someone and couldn't do anything (then dribbled out the clock), I'm sure didn't score many bonus points with Pop :lol

But overall he was very aggressive and confident.

[SequSpur]

To be fair, garbage time against a team playing no real defense whatsoever is no kind of evaluation.

timvp is right, the best thing about him is that he was aggressive. But not overly so, and except for one possession where he dribbled out the clock was contributing to good ball movement.

Certainly, I think he showed enought that we'd all like to see him during meaningful minutes.

This is the most spur excitement I have had in a lllllllllllllllllllllong time....

I think, I need to wake up pseudo and celebrate... :hungry:

[SequSpur]

You guys may be impressed with his play, but I don't think he has it.

He looked enthusiastic enough. He kept the mental mistakes down, and he knows how to penetrate.

But I didn't see it in him. To me he looks like a poor imitation of Devin Harris. He can't rebound. He literally had two rebounds in his hands taken away from him. He can't hold his position. He's afraid to shoot at any range, which will make him an easy scout.

Its just a guess, but I don't see him staying in the league very long.

:lmao

[SenorSpur]

First off, I was simply stunned that Pop even activated him, much less inserting him into a game.

Very active. Offensively aggressive. Pounded the rock too long on one possession. Needs some work defensively and needs to learn how to box out under the glass, but a very impressive start. Loved his energy. I hope he sees the end of more blowout games.

[Kori Ellis]

You guys may be impressed with his play, but I don't think he has it.

He looked enthusiastic enough. He kept the mental mistakes down, and he knows how to penetrate.

But I didn't see it in him. To me he looks like a poor imitation of Devin Harris. He can't rebound. He literally had two rebounds in his hands taken away from him. He can't hold his position. He's afraid to shoot at any range, which will make him an easy scout.

Its just a guess, but I don't see him staying in the league very long.

:lol That's a lot of bold statements from one quarter. I don't get the Devin Harris reference. Harris is 6'2 point guard. White is a small forward with a huge wingspan.

[2centsworth]

You guys may be impressed with his play, but I don't think he has it.

He looked enthusiastic enough. He kept the mental mistakes down, and he knows how to penetrate.

But I didn't see it in him. To me he looks like a poor imitation of Devin Harris. He can't rebound. He literally had two rebounds in his hands taken away from him. He can't hold his position. He's afraid to shoot at any range, which will make him an easy scout.

Its just a guess, but I don't see him staying in the league very long.
it was his first game ever in the NBA. Considering that, he did look like he fit in and showed very good athleticism. Wait 10 games or so before you throw him out of the league.

[ManuMagic]

I would have liked to see if he has a jumper. He passed up a couple of 18 to 20 footers in favor or ball rotation. Not sure if he was just a little gun shy or if he doesn't have confidence in his shot.

[Mr. Body]

The spittin image of Stephen Jackson -- both looks and movements. Probably attitude as well. Headband, check. Glazed eyes, check. Next year he probably hits a bunch of 3s to clinch the championship. Then he leaves.

All I heard there was championship.

[Kori Ellis]

I would have liked to see if he has a jumper. He passed up a couple of 18 to 20 footers in favor or ball rotation. Not sure if he was just a little gun shy or if he doesn't have confidence in his shot.

Well his 3 (his first shot) rattled out. But you can't tell much from a few shots.

[ManuMagic]

First off, I was simply stunned that Pop even activated him, much less inserting him into a game.

Very active. Offensively aggressive. Pounded the rock too long on one possession. Needs some work defensively and needs to learn how to box out under the glass, but a very impressive start. Loved his energy. I hope he sees the end of more blowout games.

I hope the Spurs have more blowout wins in which to insert him.

[SilverPlayer]

Laugh away Sequ, It's just a gut feeling. But I don't think the potential is there. For him to be any good, he has to work his ass off the next few years. I'd call him a really long shot to ever be a part of any teams rotation for more than a year.

Just my gut intuition. I like the kid, but am not seeing it.

[timvp]

To me he looks like a poor imitation of Devin Harris.

Might want to watch him a couple more times. He's not a point guard, ball handler or small like Harris is.

He looked taller than Finley, so he's probably a legit 6-foot-7. He's more like a poor man's Trevor Ariza at this point.

[gameFACE]

Good debut. Hopefully he gets more PT. Bench Beno!

I'm cool with him wearing AD's old number 33. Just don't go choking anyone...........

[2centsworth]

he definitely deserves more garbage minutes.

[SequSpur]

White looked great. He rebounded. (Spurs need) He showed his ball handling skills when he went to the board for a layup.. (Spurs need) He brought the ball up the court once.. (>Beno) He stood in the corner...(Bruce Bowenish) He threw down... (Uh?? help me out here) He dropped some free throws... Dude was awesome.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

Laugh away Sequ, It's just a gut feeling. But I don't think the potential is there. For him to be any good, he has to work his ass off the next few years. I'd call him a really long shot to ever be a part of any teams rotation for more than a year.

Just my gut intuition. I like the kid, but am not seeing it.
:lol WOW! You got all that from 14 minutes of pt.

[SilverPlayer]

Like Harris in that he's going to be streaky at best shooting, and mainly a drive and dish/dunk kind of guy.

[Kori Ellis]

Like Harris in that he's going to be streaky at best shooting, and mainly a drive and dish/dunk kind of guy.

Harris is a dunker?

[2centsworth]

I like the kid, but am not seeing it.
there's not much to see in one quarter, especially as much as you saw.

[ManuMagic]

Harris is a dunker?

are we talking about devin harris? :lol

[Kori Ellis]

are we talking about devin harris? :lol

:lol

I know. I'm getting confused.

SilverPlayer - Devin Harris is the Mavs point guard. Where's the connection to a high flyer like White?

[ShoogarBear]

I would have liked to see if he has a jumper. He passed up a couple of 18 to 20 footers in favor or ball rotation. Not sure if he was just a little gun shy or if he doesn't have confidence in his shot.At this point, a jumper at this stage is not that crucial. Fist, the Spurs are chock full of jump shooters right now and what they need are more slashers. Second, a jump shot can be developed over the course of a couple of years, and the Spurs already have a guy on their staff who can help with that.

[Clutch20]

Not being mean here, but he comes across, to me, like a SJax but with wings and a burning desire to dominate, not a bad thing to add...........

[jaespur21]

i thought he went after def. boards well. also had a good take to the hoop off a crossover down the middle of the lane
love my dvr also RC

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

there's not much to see in one quarter, especially as much as you saw.
:lol

yeah I thought that post was making pretty huge assumption based on a player's debut in garbage minutes.

[SequSpur]

wgaf.. right now, he's almost fresher than a brand new loaf of bread....

WTF? It's about got damn time... I'm sick of the same ol shit Pop is throwing out there. Also, he's not a got damn foreigner either.

[Kori Ellis]

To me, he's not like SJax. Stephen has horrible handles and is a very bad dribbler. And he's not really that athletic. And he's also much bigger than White (height and frame).

White looks like he has good handles, he's very light and he's just a really amazing leaper.

[Solid D]

White looked great. He rebounded. (Spurs need) He showed his ball handling skills when he went to the board for a layup.. (Spurs need) He brought the ball up the court once.. (>Beno) He stood in the corner...(Bruce Bowenish) He threw down... (Uh?? help me out here) He dropped some free throws... Dude was awesome.

Sequ, he was okay but let's not get carried away. Stay with us and don't let your attention follow the shiny, moving objects too much.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Like Harris in that he's going to be streaky at best shooting, and mainly a drive and dish/dunk kind of guy.

Just log off and go to bed, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

The only way Harris dunks is on his playstation.

[SenorSpur]

Maybe Pop is planning to use him as a "secret weapon" for his annual "small-ball" playoff lineup.

[SequSpur]

Sequ, he was okay but let's not get carried away. Stay with us and don't let your attention follow the shiny, moving objects too much.

Get off my jock... show up to a gtg, be a man and shake my hand.. otherwise go fly a kite.

[ManuMagic]

At this point, a jumper at this stage is not that crucial. Fist, the Spurs are chock full of jump shooters right now and what they need are more slashers. Second, a jump shot can be developed over the course of a couple of years, and the Spurs already have a guy on their staff who can help with that.

True, TP is an example of someone who can develop an adequate jump shot with time and work. Still, it's nice to know what you have to work with. Having shooting ability approaching Manu's will make his slashing all that more effective when people have to play him tight to respect the shot. Gives him a true tripple threat position.

[sabar]

A good first show, garbage minutes or not. Most first shows are lucky to get 1 minute of playtime and any shot attempts, especially ones that go in along with FTs and dunks.

[jaespur21]

White looks like he has good handles, he's very light and he's just a really amazing leaper.

and he wanted an oop a little earlier on a back door, saw it in slow mo it was open

[Kori Ellis]

We'll see if he makes it past training camp next year.

[2centsworth]

Well he certainly looks like he has more upside than Beno.

[SilverPlayer]

:lol

I know. I'm getting confused.

SilverPlayer - Devin Harris is the Mavs point guard. Where's the connection to a high flyer like White?


Devin I see as a guy who can drive because he can be really streaky with his shot. I know he's a point. Devin never impressed me as a rebounder. Is it that difficult of a connection? I'm having trouble coming up with abother player he compares to favorably.

Devin for his career averages 8.3 pts - 32.3pct for beyond the arc. Thats the comparison. The are going to use the same MO to do what they need to do in a game.

[SequSpur]

We'll see if he makes it past training camp next year.

He just earned a 3 year contract.

"Loyalty"

[ManuMagic]

Well he certainly looks like he has more upside than Beno.

98% of Spurstalk posters have more upside than Beno at this point.

[infinite styles]

Laugh away Sequ, It's just a gut feeling. But I don't think the potential is there. For him to be any good, he has to work his ass off the next few years. I'd call him a really long shot to ever be a part of any teams rotation for more than a year.

Just my gut intuition. I like the kid, but am not seeing it.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/LAW/07/25/psychic.lawsuit/story.miss.cleo.jpg
Call Me Now For Your Free Reading

[timvp]

My problem with White since I first saw him play when he was in high school is that he doesn't really use his athleticism to his advantage. You see it on his dunks, but outside of that ... you'd never really know he's a world class athlete.

If he can learn to use his athleticism for defense, rebounding, penetrating or anything other than a highlight reel dunk, he could be an NBA player.

[jaespur21]

He just earned a 3 year contract.

"Loyalty"
F that give him malik's OLD contract

[THE SIXTH MAN]

:lol

yeah I thought that post was making pretty huge assumption based on a player's debut in garbage minutes.
I think a lot of people here are making reasonable evaluations of his debut. I think the title of this thread is just poking fun at the excitement of him playing his first NBA game. This off season sucked, and White was the only "exciting" bit of news that happened.

As for White, you cant make a solid evaluation until he's seen some quality minutes. But as for his first game, he looked solid. He didn't look lost out there like some other players have in our system. The only thing I question was his perimeter d.

[SenorSpur]

I watched the Warriors broadcast via League Pass. When White got a case of the dribbles and the incurred a shot clock violation, he ran back down court and immediately looked toward Pop's direction. Instead of getting upset, Pop grinned and winked at him.

[2centsworth]

the biggest flaw I saw is his lack of movement without the ball. Dude gets absolutely zero seperation.

[jaespur21]

a couple 3's hit in his grill but he got a hand up on both shots...Awesome game for the spurs back2back poundings dished out. 3rd quarter was exciting cuz i thought Bdiddy and Tony might go @ it for a sec

[ManuMagic]

Devin I see as a guy who can drive because he can be really streaky with his shot. I know he's a point. Devin never impressed me as a rebounder. Is it that difficult of a connection? I'm having trouble coming up with abother player he compares to favorably.

Devin for his career averages 8.3 pts - 32.3pct for beyond the arc. Thats the comparison. The are going to use the same MO to do what they need to do in a game.

The styles are completely different. Harris' job is to relieve Jet Terry at the point while penetrating to break down defenses. That's what he does, but from the point position. He's not going to rebound, and he's not going to dunk.

[SenorSpur]

As for White, you cant make a solid evaluation until he's seen some quality minutes. But as for his first game, he looked solid. He didn't look lost out there like some other players have in our system. The only thing I question was his perimeter d.

That's what I was pleased to see - the guy didn't look at all lost out there.

[SequSpur]

Pop plays Beno just like your owner lets their got damn kids work with you.... same shit..

[Kori Ellis]

Devin I see as a guy who can drive because he can be really streaky with his shot. I know he's a point. Devin never impressed me as a rebounder. Is it that difficult of a connection? I'm having trouble coming up with abother player he compares to favorably.

Devin for his career averages 8.3 pts - 32.3pct for beyond the arc. Thats the comparison. The are going to use the same MO to do what they need to do in a game.

Devin isn't supposed to impress you as a rebounder. He's a 6'3 point guard. You are right that he isn't a good 3-point shooter. But he's not a dunker either.

White isn't supposed to be a 3-point shooter. He's a high flying athlete. He'll get most of his points at the rim.

But I don't know how you concluded he's going to be a bad shooter when he only took one outside shot.

Anyway. I think a comparison to a light, athletic small forward who can't shoot from long range would have made more sense.

At first I thought maybe you meant Devin Brown and then I got really confused.

[SequSpur]

Does anybody remember when Parker was 18 and he lit up the summer league???

Uh hello!!! This is no fluke.

[jaespur21]

mayb jason richardson after how he played tonight

[Kori Ellis]

Does anybody remember when Parker was 18 and he lit up the summer league???

Uh hello!!! This is no fluke.

Do you remember when Beno lit up Parker when they were 17? :lol

[SCdac]

Good to finally see him get some playing time. He definitely adds that athleticism and energy. I'm actually excited. The pumpfake, then layup. The one-handed alley-oop from Oberto. It was sweet.

Shouldn't suprise anybody to see a rookie making mistakes in their very first NBA game. If anything you want to see him get this stuff out of his system (the nervousness, the over-activity, etc). Hopefully he gets more minutes down the stretch here.

[T Park]

My biggest flaw I saw is his lack of movement without the ball. Dude gets absolutely zero seperation.

He had Pietrus on him whos a good defender, so don't hold too much of that against him.

[2centsworth]

So what's White's Grade? I'd give him a B-

[SequSpur]

Do you remember when Beno lit up Parker when they were 17? :lol

uh no.. I must politely decline... I did not see that. Maybe Parker was afraid of the Rainbow sticker.

[SilverPlayer]

The styles are completely different. Harris' job is to relieve Jet Terry at the point while penetrating to break down defenses. That's what he does, but from the point position. He's not going to rebound, and he's not going to dunk.


If you think White is going to be a good rebounder you've got a lot of disappointment headed your way. That's the biggest knock against him. He has all the tools to be a great boarder, but he's never been good at it.

[2centsworth]

He had Pietrus on him whos a good defender, so don't hold too much of that against him.
oh yeah, too early to have any strong opinions.

[jaespur21]

B+ shit first time steppn on the big leagues court

[T Park]

So what's White's Grade? I'd give him a B-




B- B+ had to have the butterflies going.


IMO, if he would've given more effort on the defensive end, he would've maybe turned heads on the bench, and made Pop think a bit.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

the biggest flaw I saw is his lack of movement without the ball. Dude gets absolutely zero seperation.

He was playing with three white guys who were all looking to shoot. It's not like he got any help on screens.

[Buddy Holly]

Jeeze, I wonder what the reaction would have been if he stunk out there tonight.

[SilverPlayer]

Anyway. I think a comparison to a light, athletic small forward who can't shoot from long range would have made more sense.
.


Name one who can't rebound. Seriously.

[SequSpur]

He was playing with three white guys who were all looking to shoot. It's not like he got any help on screens.

Exactly... Beno was looking for himself.

[jaespur21]

Jeeze, I wonder what the reaction would have been if he stunk out there tonight.
but he didnt :drunk YAY

[ManuMagic]

If you think White is going to be a good rebounder you've got a lot of disappointment headed your way. That's the biggest knock against him. He has all the tools to be a great boarder, but he's never been good at it.

White has the potential to be a decent rebounder from the SF position, but that isn't his main objective on the court. You wouldn't talk about Manu being a great rebounder, but he does a pretty good job for his position. Will White rebound like KG and Camby? Of course not. But that isn't expected of him. He's going to be asked to contribute defensively and make plays going to the rim. A better stat to look at for him is FTA

[T Park]

oh yeah, too early to have any strong opinions.

agreed.

Id love to see him vs New Orleans, and see how hed run against their youngins.

Its a shame, you get just a taste of how good this kid COULD be, but then you think what TIMVP said about him, he just uses the athleticism for dunks, and just "plays" through everything else, hes kinda right.

Hopefully he can wise up on that.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I think a lot of people here are making reasonable evaluations of his debut. I think the title of this thread is just poking fun at the excitement of him playing his first NBA game. This off season sucked, and White was the only "exciting" bit of news that happened.

As for White, you cant make a solid evaluation until he's seen some quality minutes. But as for his first game, he looked solid. He didn't look lost out there like some other players have in our system. The only thing I question was his perimeter d.
oh, I know that this thread title is just being facetious.

I was referring to that specific post where one of the posters was already saying White didn't show enough and was going to be like Devin Harris. :lol

Anyway, the one thing I like about having White is solely his youth. Other than that, yeah hopefully Spurs blowout a couple more teams for White to play.

There's been three guys Pop has inserted into the line up to see if they got something, White, Butler and Ely, and White apparently didn't seem lost--from what the other guys have been saying around here. So that sounds like a plus for once :tu.

[Kori Ellis]

He was pretty much what I thought he'd be, so I give him a C+. :lol

Skinny.

Headband.

He got his dunk.

He tried to go playground on that one play and couldn't get free, so he just pretty much dribbled out the clock.

He was very energetic.

He didn't close out well on the perimeter.

The big plus for me was that he didn't look lost.

I still don't think he'll be on next year's roster unless he works his ass off, but we'll see.

[infinite styles]

the biggest flaw I saw is his lack of movement without the ball. Dude gets absolutely zero seperation.

To be fair nobody was moving in the 4th qtr. Everybody stood around waiting for time to expire.

My impression of his first game was just pure energy. He didn't look lost and had some confidence. His aggressiveness (if he keeps it) will keep him around for awhile and hopefully earn him some time next year. Mistakes will happen for rookies so I wasn't too thrown by that one possession.

[2centsworth]

He was playing with three white guys who were all looking to shoot. It's not like he got any help on screens.
push somebody.

[T Park]

I still don't think he'll be on next year's roster unless he works his ass off, but we'll see.


I disagree.

Theres too much talent there to give up on.

Especially with the way the Spurs cap situation is, and the availability of said athletic players.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

Name one who can't rebound. Seriously.
Dude what the fuck are you smoking? People are talking about his game TONIGHT! No one is making predictions about him. Your the only one who's sticking your neck out there by saying he wont be in the league that long, and some other nonsense. You can't put Whites stats up with any other 3 out there because this was his first game.

[2centsworth]

He was pretty much what I thought he'd be, so I give him a C+. :lol

Skinny.

Headband.

He got his dunk.

He tried to go playground on that one play and couldn't get free, so he just pretty much dribbled out the clock.

He was very energetic.

He didn't close out well on the perimeter.

The big plus for me was that he didn't look lost.

I still don't think he'll be on next year's roster unless he works his ass off, but we'll see.
he's a long shot, but he has a chance. Think of the player he would be if he did improve enough to make the squad. Wow!

[SilverPlayer]

Silver player:
For him to be any good, he has to work his ass off the next few years. I'd call him a really long shot to ever be a part of any teams rotation for more than a year.

Kori:
I still don't think he'll be on next year's roster unless he works his ass off, but we'll see.

[T Park]

push somebody.

get an offensive foul, turn it over, kill the posession.

Not the best ways of making an impression.

[ManuMagic]

He was pretty much what I thought he'd be, so I give him a C+. :lol

Skinny.

Headband.

He got his dunk.

He tried to go playground on that one play and couldn't get free, so he just pretty much dribbled out the clock.

He was very energetic.

He didn't close out well on the perimeter.

The big plus for me was that he didn't look lost.

I still don't think he'll be on next year's roster unless he works his ass off, but we'll see.

I agree that he'll be a long shot to make the Spurs roster next year, but what about the league in general? I think there are a few teams who could benefit from his game, and maybe he could develop into a steady NBA player.

[Kori Ellis]

I disagree.

Theres too much talent there to give up on.

Especially with the way the Spurs cap situation is, and the availability of said athletic players.

So you think he doesn't have to work ass off and he's guaranteed a roster spot?

The Spurs don't work that way:lol

[timvp]

If you think White is going to be a good rebounder you've got a lot of disappointment headed your way.

This is true. In the NBDL, he rebounded at a Bruce Bowen clip. Three rebounds in his quarter plus is a lot more than you can expect from him at this point.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

oh, I know that this thread title is just being facetious.

I was referring to that specific post where one of the posters was already saying White didn't show enough and was going to be like Devin Harris. :lol


:lol Yeah I know, I was just trying to add to what you were saying.

[T Park]

No no. I agree he will have to work.

I don't think hes NOT, according to PJ on the pregame it seems he has.

But not knowing if hell even make it through training camp next year, when they kept Melvin friggen Sanders through more, is a bit of a reach IMO.

[SilverPlayer]

Dude what the fuck are you smoking? People are talking about his game TONIGHT! No one is making predictions about him. Your the only one who's sticking your neck out there by saying he wont be in the league that long, and some other nonsense. You can't put Whites stats up with any other 3 out there because this was his first game.

Like I said its a hunch, but I am racking my brain trying to think of someone that has succeeded with his frame, be a hot or not shooter, and can't rebound. I can't think of anyone that meets that description. Reggie Miller and Tayshaun Prince are closest body wise, but both bring talents that White doesn't have. Devin Harris is the closest I could come up with.

[Kori Ellis]

No no. I agree he will have to work.

I don't think hes NOT, according to PJ on the pregame it seems he has.


:lol Then what were you in disagreement with. I just said that he won't be here if he doesn't work his ass off.

The Spurs won't have many roster spaces to work with and they'll need to get an athletic PF, a backup PG, etc. So he'll have to really standout in order to make this team. And by standing out, I mean he'll have to improve his all around game. Just being a leaper isn't going to cut it here. He'll need to become a good defender and knock down (at least) midrange shots.

[2centsworth]

Like I said its a hunch, but I am racking my brain trying to think of someone that has succeeded with his frame and be a hot or not shooter, that can't rebound. I can't think of anyone that meets that description. Reggie Miller and Tayshaun Prince are closest body wise, but both bring talents that White doesn't have. Devin Harris is the closest I could come up with.
Bruce Bowen.

[Solid D]

Could this thread go (Classic) Platinum?

[T Park]

What talent does Tayshaun Prince have that sets him apart from White drastically?

Hes just more seasoned and longer.

With the aging wings, if he works out in the offseason he will be here.

[SilverPlayer]

Bruce Bowen.


Thats a better comparison? seriously? You must be smoking crack. Bowen can shoot, hasn't ever been a great finisher. And is cringe worthy every time he puts it in gear to drive to the basket.

Bowen also has a certain defensive ability that makes up for all of the shortcomings.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

so will ely get the last spot over white at this point?

[ManuMagic]

Thats a better comparison? seriously? You must be smoking crack. Bowen can shoot, hasn't ever been a great finisher. And is cringe worthy every time he puts it in gear to drive to the basket.

Bowen also has a certain defensive ability that makes up for all of the shortcomings.

I wouldn't say Bowen can shoot - he's a one spot shooter with decent ability to hit a midrange every now and then. Your last statement is right on the money - he's one of the best at what he does on the other end of the court.

[SilverPlayer]

What talent does Tayshaun Prince have that sets him apart from White drastically?

Hes just more seasoned and longer.

With the aging wings, if he works out in the offseason he will be here.

I would love for that to happen...I hope he averages 5.4 rebounds a game, and then he would be a lock to make it in the NBA.

[Kori Ellis]

so will ely get the last spot over white at this point?

For the 13th man playoff spot?

I'm not sure, that would be a lot of bigs. They might carry White over Ely.

Bigs
TD
Elson
Fab
Bonner
RoHo

Wings
Bowen
Manu
MikeF
Barry

Points
TP
Jacque
Beno

[ShoogarBear]

Well, what the hell else are we supposed to talk about until the playoffs start?

[El_Mago]

The Spurs have a 40 point lead and nobody is really playing defense anymore.

The players just want to get off the court, no injuries, and go back to the hotel/home.

White played well, but for those who claim his defense needs to improve, needs work on his jumpshot, etc....

Your basing all this on 1 game, which was a blowout....

All it will take is for White to get some action in one of the next few games that is a little tighter....make a jumper, maybe 1 three, and play some perimeter D.....and everyone's thoughts will change quickly....

----------------------

White is laterally quick enough to play above average D on the perimeter...plus, he has that attractive wing span to play the passing lanes pretty well....

He has improved drastically on the defensive end in practice and does get some work in with Chip on the jump shots....

Popovich realizes he is atheltic, is young, and has promise....at the same time, White wants to make his defense the staple of his game not just for the sake of the Spurs, but for the sake of staying in the league...just in case the Spurs were to cut him, which more than likely will not occur.....

[Kori Ellis]

White played well, but for those who claim his defense needs to improve, needs work on his jumpshot, etc....

Your basing all this on 1 game, which was a blowout....

All it will take is for White to get some action in one of the next few games that is a little tighter....make a jumper, maybe 1 three, and play some perimeter D.....and everyone's thoughts will change quickly

No, most of us are basing it on his experience with the Toros and his basketball experience elsewhere to date. He doesn't have a jumpshot yet, he's not an amazing close out defender or anything, and he has always been a poor rebounder for his size and athleticism.

It's not bad to note those things. They are definitely things he needs to improve to be on the Spurs roster next year. No one (other than Silver Player) is saying he won't improve them. Just that he needs to improve them.

I have heard nothing but good things about his work ethic and his development. But he's not a regular rotation NBA player yet.

[T Park]

I would give him a summer league, a training camp, full preseason before Id make a hard decision on him honestly.

Defense can be taught and ingrained in this organization, and he seems to have his head screwed on right, so Im not too worried about him.

[FirebatMIV]

Name one who can't rebound. Seriously.

Ricky Davis?

White reminds quite a bit of Davis when he first came into the league, minus all the crazy, of course.

[Solid D]

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2006/02/23/image1339223g.jpg

As inspirational and wonderful as it was when autistic teen, Jason McElwain, made 20 points in 4 minutes...that didn't automatically send him into the 8-man rotation.

[SenorSpur]

I would give him a summer league, a training camp, full preseason before Id make a hard decision on him honestly.

Defense can be taught and ingrained in this organization, and he seems to have his head screwed on right, so Im not too worried about him.

Dude better get with that "3,000-jump-shot-a-day" routine over the summer.

[El_Mago]

No, most of us are basing it on his experience with the Toros and his basketball experience elsewhere to date. He doesn't have a jumpshot yet, he's not an amazing close out defender or anything, and he has always been a poor rebounder for his size and athleticism.

It's not bad to note those things. They are definitely things he needs to improve to be on the Spurs roster next year. No one (other than Silver Player) is saying he won't improve them. Just that he needs to improve them.

I have heard nothing but good things about his work ethic and his development. But he's not a regular rotation NBA player yet.

I've seen White play before...from the All-American, to Cincy, etc....

Correct, he did not have a consistent jumper, but he has been working on it, and has improved. When it comes to defense, he was not a superb defender...although he does have the abilites to become one. He has the wingspan to cover the passing lanes, disturb opposing players, and he has quick lateral movements to play above average on D.

He admitted before entering the league that Defense was going to be vital for his success and stay in the league. He landed in the perfect place to make that happen for himself. His work ethic in practice has been good, Bowen is taking him under his wing when it comes to defensive principles, and is learning a lot from the coaches....

Of course he's not a regular rotation player yet. He has to learn in the in's and out's of in game action. Still be able to effectively execute the offense and defensive schemes, etc....

However, White will be here next year....he just will not be a Summer League invite....

As a matter of fact, expect him to destroy competition in the Summer League....

At the same time, let's not count out more playing time in these next few games and possibly get the last playoff roster spot....

[SenorSpur]

I've seen White play before...from the All-American, to Cincy, etc....

Correct, he did not have a consistent jumper, but he has been working on it, and has improved. When it comes to defense, he was not a superb defender...although he does have the abilites to become one. He has the wingspan to cover the passing lanes, disturb opposing players, and he has quick lateral movements to play above average on D.

He admitted before entering the league that Defense was going to be vital for his success and stay in the league. He landed in the perfect place to make that happen for himself. His work ethic in practice has been good, Bowen is taking him under his wing when it comes to defensive principles, and is learning a lot from the coaches....

Of course he's not a regular rotation player yet. He has to learn in the in's and out's of in game action. Still be able to effectively execute the offense and defensive schemes, etc....

However, White will be here next year....he just will not be a Summer League invite....

As a matter of fact, expect him to destroy competition in the Summer League....

At the same time, let's not count out more playing time in these next few games and possibly get the last playoff roster spot....

Personally, I'd like to see the guy stick. Acquiring this guy was as good as having a late first round pick. I sure hope he continues down the road toward developing his game. He's got a load of talent and does seem more than willing to fit into the team culture.

While I admit the Spurs will likely still need to acquire a wingman that can contribute immediately, White does have some valuable skills that could benefit this team over the long haul.

It's high time the Spurs made an investment in a young, domestic player with a strong upside. This team absolutely must strengthen the veteran core of this team by infusing it with some youthful talent.

[phyzik]

Prediction: A Sequ post wondering why the fuck we havnt traded White 6 months from now.

[ManuMagic]

I replayed that shot like five times to try to figure out WTF happened. It just looks like Beno missed the basket by about 14 feet.

I went back on the DVR and watched that play in slomo a few times - it is the funniest thing I've seen in a while. I think it's the first time I've seen anyone over the age of 5 miss the entire backboard on a 5 ft. shot. If I had the capability I'd YouTube that one for sure.

[bdictjames]

Do you guys have a link for the dunk? Maybe ESPN will show it later...

[THE SIXTH MAN]

Do you guys have a link for the dunk? Maybe ESPN will show it later...
I dont have a link, but I made it my sig.

[rayray2k8]

Save the talk about this guy for next year.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I dont have a link, but I made it my sig.
He looks like a light brown version of devin brown in that pic, and fuck am im seeing double benos in that pic hahahhahaa

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I watched some of the highlights. They showed Manu's dunk, heh, that was a 2005 dunk! All the momentum. where he went for the finish. And I liked how the defender fell thanks to Tony. He couldn't do anything.

They also showed some of Tony's nice feeds while penetrating. 9 Dimes total.

That'd be cool if James White were to work as another spark at SF. Then we'd get a more youthful dimension with Elson, Manu, going for more Ally Oop type dunks with White.

Not that that's gonna be happening this year. But if things go well for White in terms of developing for the Spurs...maybe?

[SRJ]

What talent does Tayshaun Prince have that sets him apart from White drastically?

Hes just more seasoned and longer.

With the aging wings, if he works out in the offseason he will be here.

Prince can hit the three, score in the post, and defend very well. If White is half as good as Prince we'll be in great shape.

[ShoogarBear]

I went back on the DVR and watched that play in slomo a few times - it is the funniest thing I've seen in a while. Second funniest.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol

So far we have a page for every two minutes of White's PT. We should hit a 1:1 ratio by noon.

Good for James though.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/7e/fullj.getty-71797687rw026_warriors_spur_2_08_35_am.jpg

[joeyjfive]

damnit I wanna see that dunk

[Bruno]

White is Spur's leader for FG%, FT% and points per 48 minutes and the scary thing is that he is a rookie playing on a contenting team.

[Taco]

:lol


http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/7e/fullj.getty-71797687rw026_warriors_spur_2_08_35_am.jpg

Hey Antonio Daniels (33) looked pretty good last night!! :fro

[ShoogarBear]

The Express-News is recalculating the top 30 Spurs list as we speak.

[MI21]

Devin Harris has thrown down some of the nastiest facials in the NBA over the past 2 or 3 seasons...

[cheguevara]

White is a hall of famer as much as Scola. Damn, we could have 4 hall of famers next year!

[Gros Membres!]

White looked great. He rebounded. (Spurs need) He showed his ball handling skills when he went to the board for a layup.. (Spurs need) He brought the ball up the court once.. (>Beno) He stood in the corner...(Bruce Bowenish) He threw down... (Uh?? help me out here) He dropped some free throws... Dude was awesome.
Agree completely! Dude, deserves some more run and could be a nice change-of-pace for us. Giving Finley some rest here at the end of the season for the playoffs and giving us a nice, new weapon that no one will have seen.

White can rotate, hustle, keep up with the athletic 3s of the league, penetrate, create, and throw it down. Uh, what's the problem? Why won't he last in the league?

[Gros Membres!]

Also, anyone know how to shrink the size of the White photo down for use as an avatar. I have tried for half an hour and will now admit to my inadequacy in photoshop.

[SilverPlayer]

Ricky Davis?

White reminds quite a bit of Davis when he first came into the league, minus all the crazy, of course.


Good call, I'd say he compares to Davis and maybe Flip Murray.

[The_Worlds_finest]

That manu dunk was freaking awsome specially since it envovled jacko on the ground getting posterized...(at least im pretty sure that was him)

White looked pretty good considering nobody comes in the spurs rotation knowing what to do. Could this guy be someone that could be isolated and let loose? Oberto and him could make a nice tandem Id like to think..anyway nice blow out whens the real comp coming around? :clap

[boutons_]

We will win next 5 NBA Titles with JW playing 1-on-5.

JW's pee cures cancer, but JW doesn't need water.

JW's shit is worth more than gold, silver, platinum, but he doesn't need food.

[Texas_Ranger]

Spurs should outscore every opponent for 30 points, that White could play more minutes.

[AFBlue]

Good call, I'd say he compares to Davis and maybe Flip Murray.

So you're upset that he could be Ricky Davis without the attitude? I'd take Ricky without the attitude on the Spurs...

And Flip Murray is another small combo guard. Murray and Harris are PG/SG with PG/SG height, length, and game.

White is a legit 6'7 with good reach and great athleticism.

[mardigan]

I just cant believe the Spurs have a guy on their roster that can finish an alley oop while wearing a headband, its been awhile since that

[sa_butta]

I just cant believe the Spurs have a guy on their roster that can finish an alley oop while wearing a headband, its been awhile since thatI dont recall, but maybe Devin Brown.

[T Park]

Devin Brown and or Stephen Jackson were the last ones.

[MrChug]

Can you believe I watched every freaking second of garbage time until the very end, just to see him dunk, and missed it?

:madrun

I DID TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bang

No joke! I got hooked on an oldie but goodie on HBO "Midnight Run" with Robert DeNiro. DAMN YOU CHARLES GRODIN!!!

[mardigan]

Devin Brown and or Stephen Jackson were the last ones.
Yea, maybe SJax, but I never really saw Devin throw down any alley oops

[AFBlue]

Draft Express has Andre Iguadola as a best case and Qyntel Woods as a worst case. It seems unlikely he puts it together and snags Iguadola numbers, but Qyntel's career was mostly derailed because of off-court issues...he had the talent. Presumably White has a good head on his shoulders, and though he needs to stay assertive and work especially on using his god-given athleticism, he is at least worth keeping through next year.

[wildbill2u]

Ohmigawd! We have a backup quarterback controversy....er...sorry, scratch that.

Instead we have a 'young phenom--White' controversy. The 'young phenom' controversy used to arise in training camp every year--until the cut.

This 'young phenom--White' argument seems to have the legs to outlast the 'young phenom--Butler' from last fall. Remember how everyone thought he'd come in and start? Don't hear much about Butler anymore.

[itzsoweezee]

has someone already posted this?
"A Totally Unbiased Review of James White's First 15 Minutes in the NBA" http://www.poundingtherock.com/story/2007/3/27/63815/1954

[mardigan]

has someone already posted this?
"A Totally Unbiased Review of James White's First 15 Minutes in the NBA" http://www.poundingtherock.com/story/2007/3/27/63815/1954
:lol Nice dude, thats some funny shit
"James White, at the age of 7, could see all of Nellie ball's limitations." :lol
Damn dude, it almost needs its own thread

[Rummpd]

9 points in first outing. Not bad giving him a 9PPG average - it has to go down - from www.nba.com

James White #33 Guard-Forward


2006-07 Statistics
PPG 9.0 RPG 3.00 APG 0.0 EFF + 11.00 Born: Oct 21, 1982
Height: 6-7 / 2,01
Weight: 200 lbs. / 90,7 kg.
College : Cincinnati
Years Pro: R

[ShoogarBear]

His assists per 48 minutes sucks. What a ball hog.

[jackiel1219]

10:14 -- White gets the ball at the top of key, crosses the shit out of Matt Barnes, gets to the rack and draws the foul. He makes both free throws while reciting the preamble to the Constitution in Aramaic.

[itzsoweezee]

12:00 -- Oberto finds Barry down low for an easy 10-footer. On the way back down court Fabricio apologizes for not getting Flight the ball. James gives him a reassuring nod, his compassion sending a single tear down the Argentine's face.

[mardigan]

9:09 -- Oberto misses a shot while James White reminds a court side patron that she needs to pick up her dry cleaning tomorrow. The woman turns to her friend and says "Oh my God, I totally would have forgotten to pick up my dry cleaning if it wasn't for that strapping, handsome young man."
So funny

[ManuMagic]

His assists per 48 minutes sucks. What a ball hog.

Well if Beno could somehow manage to hit the backboard from 5 ft. White's assist numbers would be considerably better

[Kori Ellis]

Yea, maybe SJax, but I never really saw Devin throw down any alley oops

Devin Brown was much more athletic than SJax. But I don't remember either one of them catching alleyoops very often.

[mardigan]

I dont think the Spur players are used to throwing alley oops

[ManuMagic]

I dont think the Spur players are used to throwing alley oops

Oh, Parker and Barry would love to throw alley oops all day, but Pop would blow up if that happened. Parker attempted 3 or 4 in the all star game to get his frustrations out as it is.

[spurs1990]

Flight is our fourth leading scorer. hells yeah!

[objective]

Doesn't anyone remember the awesome alley-oop throwdown by Devin Brown from Barry that's in the 05 dvd?

That was an awesome Devin throwdown.

[mardigan]

Doesn't anyone remember the awesome alley-oop throwdown by Devin Brown from Barry that's in the 05 dvd?

That was an awesome Devin throwdown.
I remember SJax being the first guy in the NBA to throw a dunk down on Yao

[ShoogarBear]

Oh, Parker and Barry would love to throw alley oops all day, but Pop would blow up if that happened. Parker attempted 3 or 4 in the all star game to get his frustrations out as it is.And he sucked at it in the A-S game (at least last year, I didn't see much of this year's). Parker never has been very good at it, probably in large part because he doesn't get much chance to do it.

I suspect that Barry and maybe Horry and Manu would be the best at doing them.

[AFBlue]

And he sucked at it in the A-S game (at least last year, I didn't see much of this year's). Parker never has been very good at it, probably in large part because he doesn't get much chance to do it.

I suspect that Barry and maybe Horry and Manu would be the best at doing them.

Manu threw a decent one to Elson the other day. I think the Spurs have the personnel to do it finally, but Pop probably considers it too risky of an offensive tactic. I'm sure it leads to alot of turnovers. Denver, pre-Iverson, had a pretty good feel with lob passes though, so I guess it could be taught/perfected...

[ManuMagic]

And he sucked at it in the A-S game (at least last year, I didn't see much of this year's). Parker never has been very good at it, probably in large part because he doesn't get much chance to do it.

I suspect that Barry and maybe Horry and Manu would be the best at doing them.

yes sir, watching Parker throw an alley oop is a lot like watching TD shoot a free throw, you never know what the hell is going to happen. I've seen Barry launch a few that were bullets that bounced square off the backboard as well. Quite a funny sight.

[ShoogarBear]

Denver, pre-Iverson, had a pretty good feel with lob passes though, so I guess it could be taught/perfected...
That's because Andre Miller is probably the best lob passer in the league. You notice that Philly does it a lot more with Igoudala now.

[ManuMagic]

Manu threw a decent one to Elson the other day. I think the Spurs have the personnel to do it finally, but Pop probably considers it too risky of an offensive tactic. I'm sure it leads to alot of turnovers. Denver, pre-Iverson, had a pretty good feel with lob passes though, so I guess it could be taught/perfected...

Other than Elson (and White I suppose), I can't think of too many Spurs that would be good targets on the back end of the lob. Manu, Brent, TD and that's requiring an almost perfect pass.

[mardigan]

Thats why I said they werent used to throwing them. TD cant jump, and niether can Brent really. White seems the only alternative for the lob, maybe Manu, if Manu could throw one to himself

[AFBlue]

Other than Elson (and White I suppose), I can't think of too many Spurs that would be good targets on the back end of the lob. Manu, Brent, TD and that's requiring an almost perfect pass.

TD has been the receipient of the lob most often, so he's good enough at it. Elson, Barry, Finley, White, and Manu are all athletic enough...

[ManuMagic]

Thats why I said they werent used to throwing them. TD cant jump, and niether can Brent really. White seems the only alternative for the lob, maybe Manu, if Manu could throw one to himself

Manu needs to throw the lob off the backboard to himself on a fast break sometime. Preferably with a 20+ point lead. Just to see what shade Pop's face turns after witnessing that.

[ManuMagic]

TD has been the receipient of the lob most often, so he's good enough at it. Elson, Barry, Finley, White, and Manu are all athletic enough...

They can get up there, but they aren't going to be making adustments on the ball if it's not a perfect pass. Guys like Kobe and VC can adjust to the ball in mid air if it's a little off target, and I don't see any of the Spurs you mentioned doing that. Therefore, that requires a perfect pass and as such isn't a very high percentage play when you have TP lobbing them off the backboard or a foot over the rim.

[LEONARD]

Pops Mensah-Bonsu > James White

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/e1/fullj.getty-71797623gj005_hawks_mavs_12_30_25_am.jpg

[mardigan]

Pops Mensah-Bonsu > James White
Youve got to be kidding

[ChumpDumper]

They both suck.

[DON VITO]

When is someone going to post the Youtube of James White's dunk??

[jayfmyers]

When is someone going to post the Youtube of James White's dunk??
When are YOU going to post the Youtube of James White's dunk??

[sa_butta]

James White top of the backboard (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lmJelIBvsZE)

[ducks]

the dunk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q5EhTk_Yft8&mode=related&search=

[sabar]

James White is a 100% career FT shooter, best in the league. He also shoots 75% career FG.

Hall of Fame.

[sa_butta]

the dunk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q5EhTk_Yft8&mode=related&search=that was when he was with the Pacers.

[ShoogarBear]

that was when he was with the Pacers.:lmao

[Russ]

James White is a 100% career FT shooter, best in the league. He also shoots 75% career FG.

Hall of Fame.

His career needs to go into the "4 corners" strategy to preserve these numbers.

[Leetonidas]

We're playing NO next so we may see White again very soon.

[horrorshow]

http://www.poundingtherock.com/story/2007/3/27/63815/1954

Not sure if this has been posted but, it made me think of all of you!

[Darkwaters]

We're playing NO next so we may see White again very soon.

Probably true. Although, don't take the Hornets for granted. They have beat the Rockets 3 times this year.

...but we did get our asses handed to us tonight.

[phyzik]

James White top of the backboard (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lmJelIBvsZE)

Damn!!! I thought Sean Elliott was just being a huge Homer when he said:


If David Robinson had the vertical of James White, he'd definitely be able to touch the shot clock

or something similar to that.


I know he's not physically "big" enough, but can you imagine him once in a blue moon getting a rejection on someone like Yao with that freakish vertical?

[phyzik]

uploading video to Youtube now... warning... its going to be crappy quality, just dont have the time to hook shit up to do it right since I have to go to work tomorrow.... just a cheapo digital recorder facing the TV when the dunk happens.


*edit* Youtube is processing right now, dont know how long it takes, first time I've uploaded a video to youtube...

anyway, heres the link for when it does become available

James White's first dunk as a SPUR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHgnScxIm_k)