A Rare Call for Forum Partisan Unity

[Nbadan]

Let's freakin cure cancer once and for all.

:makemyday



(this thread is dedicated to my dad) :hat

[RobinsontoDuncan]

absolutley

[boutons_]

http://www.drugresearcher.com/news/ng.asp?id=74312-national-institutes-of-health-national-cancer-institute-cancer-cooperative-groups-funding

http://budgetblog.americanprogress.org/2006/06/14/caner-and-the-budget/


... but let's let those super-rich keep their 100 of $Bs in Repug estate tax cuts.

[gtownspur]

http://www.drugresearcher.com/news/ng.asp?id=74312-national-institutes-of-health-national-cancer-institute-cancer-cooperative-groups-funding

http://budgetblog.americanprogress.org/2006/06/14/caner-and-the-budget/


... but let's let those super-rich keep their 100 of $Bs in Repug estate tax cuts.

:donkey

[Bob Lanier]

Cancer is God's way of punishing evildoers.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Three posts in.

I don't know whether to be shocked or not.

[mikejones99]

let them use stem cells and there could be hope.

[monosylab1k]

Cancer is God's way of punishing evildoers.

no that's AIDS

[101A]

My wife is teaching a Biochem graduate class on the root mutations (don't even know enough to know is that simplistic description is accurate) which lead to cancerous cells.

The good news?

We understand a whole hell of alot more than we did just a few years ago.

The bad news?

Shit is damned complicated - and as you age your body becomes less, and less, and less able to deal with the mutations. Looks like a built in time limit. If nothing else gets you, cancer will.

Again, this is my interpretation of what she has told me after she comes out of her study at night, having read the latest papers. For the first time EVER, btw, this course has kind of shook her up; the ominous nature of this particular disease.

I lost my dad 3 years ago next month to Pancreatic Cancer (one of the worst). He was 220 pounds on News Years day; diagnosed February 17; died on April 15 @ 110 lbs.

Not good.

He was not evil.

[101A]

let them use stem cells and there could be hope.


They can use stem cells.

Adult, umbilical, and embryonic (those already in circulation, and many more through private funding.

Adult have shown some promise in some genetic diseases, none of the others has.

[boutons_]

It's been pretty widely agreed for years that most cancers are caused by environmental factors and, above all, by diet. ie, We've inflicted ourselves with a sickening lifestyle.

You can get away with eating like shit for a few decades, but eventually your immune system, etc, is weakened. The body's natural ability to control errant cell division, for apoptosis to do be effective, is eroded. Genetics plays a role, but often it's only a weakness, a pre-disposition, a lowering of your thresholds, not actually causing cancer.

But it is extremely complicated stuff.

My urologist says the big hope, in a decade or two, is mono-clonal anti-bodies. That take a sample of your cancer, infect with a virus, put back into you, and the virus attacks only your cancer cells. Don't hold your breath.

What's very encouraging is that NIH and other research outfits are researching a wide range of phyto-chemicals, fungi, mineral compounds in a CAM, complementary and alternative medicine, program. They are finding some amazing results. Of course, Big Pharma is involved, trying to extract and patent the goodies to fuck us all over, when in fact, eg, the phtyo-chemicals are most effective when take as natural materials and often in combination with other natural materials. Fuck Big Pharma, because they are sure fucking us.

[boutons_]

btw, Snow's liver cancer has a 93% mortality rate at 5 years.

Ms. Edwards metastasized breast cancer 5-year mortality rate is not encouraging, either.

Lupus in the early 1950s had 90%+ mortality rate at 5 years. There seems to an epidemic of lupus among young women. My bet is it's environmental/diet.