Is this a fair trade?

[Mr Dio]

Carlos Zambrano
_
FOR
_
Roy Oswalt
*
AND
*
Andrew Miller
10 ANDREW MILLER, lhp, Tigers
The consensus top prospect in the 2006 draft was a steal at sixth overall and nearly made Detroit's World Series roster
Opening Day Age: 21. ETA: 2008


Blaze thinks this is a PERFECTLY equal trade and that all minor leaguers are the same..

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

If somebody wants to make a trade, then maybe you should have tried to pull off that deal yourself.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

And I don't think all minor-leaguers are the same, I just believe that their stats don't count in our league right now.

If I'm wrong and their stats DO count in our league right now, then by all means make a stink.

Regardless, it's not people here you need to convince, it's three other owners.

[Mr Dio]

And I don't think all minor-leaguers are the same, I just believe that their stats don't count in our league right now.

If I'm wrong and their stats DO count in our league right now, then by all means make a stink.

Regardless, it's not people here you need to convince, it's three other owners.



No one said anything about a minor leaguers stats, it is their VALUE.
Someone need a link to Webster's definition of VALUE?


I posted it here not to convince anyone.
I posted it because I couldn't even fathom such a trade would even be accepted or fair.
What are you afraid of with this poll? Isn't it just a poll? Hmmm......

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

No one said anything about a minor leaguers stats, it is their VALUE.
Someone need a link to Webster's definition of VALUE?


I posted it here not to convince anyone.
I posted it because I couldn't even fathom such a trade would even be accepted or fair.
What are you afraid of with this poll? Isn't it just a poll? Hmmm......

Yes, I'm afraid of a poll regarding a trade that has nothing to do with my team.

Deathly afraid.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

No one said anything about a minor leaguers stats, it is their VALUE.
Someone need a link to Webster's definition of VALUE?


I posted it here not to convince anyone.
I posted it because I couldn't even fathom such a trade would even be accepted or fair.
What are you afraid of with this poll? Isn't it just a poll? Hmmm......

And if you just can't fathom that anybody would think it's a good deal...well, get your other three votes.

[Mr Dio]

Yes, I'm afraid of a poll regarding a trade that has nothing to do with my team.

Deathly afraid.


I know. :smokin

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

So what is it?

Is there collusion going on?

Don't forget, the team receiving Miller has to drop one of their own prospects, so that's a drop in value, too...

[Mr Dio]

A minor-leaguer is just that, a minor-leaguer

I wonder who that bright 5 watt lightbulb is that thinks a minor leaguer has as much VALUE as any other minor leaguer? :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

A minor-leaguer is just that, a minor-leaguer

I wonder who that bright 5 watt lightbulb is that thinks a minor leaguer has as much VALUE as any other minor leaguer? :lol

You have your value in this fantasy league, I have mine.

[Mr Dio]

So what is it?

Is there collusion going on?

Don't forget, the team receiving Miller has to drop one of their own prospects, so that's a drop in value, too...


Collusion?
Since YOU brought it up....Why don't you tell us who is invloved in the trade?


Matt said as many as (8) minor leaguers can be kept on a roster if acquired via trade. No one has drop anyone.
Nice try, nice try...... :smokin

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Collusion?
Since YOU brought it up....Why don't you tell us who is invloved in the trade?


Matt said as many as (8) minor leaguers can be kept on a roster if acquired via trade. No one has drop anyone.
Nice try, nice try...... :smokin



The rights to prospects can be traded, but the 5 prospect limit remains in effect...so however you have to do it, whether by activating one or dropping one or trading one.....you MUST keep your prospects to 5.


Who's the 5-watt bulb who can't count?

[Mr Dio]

You have your value in this fantasy league, I have mine.


Yeah, and it seems like value and deals are either vastly skewed or dare I say (since you brought up collusion)...pre-arranged?


For someone that has no interest you sure are fighting very, very hard for this trade.
Hmmm.................

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Collusion?
Since YOU brought it up....Why don't you tell us who is invloved in the trade?



I don't know. I only know it's not me.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Yeah, and it seems like value and deals are either vastly skewed or dare I say (since you brought up collusion)...pre-arranged?


For someone that has no interest you sure are fighting very, very hard for this trade.
Hmmm.................

Because I dislike when people fight trades because they think somebody else is getting over. If person A wants to be taken to the cleaners and finds somebody to help them, that's their business and their money.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Because I dislike when people fight trades because they think somebody else is getting over. If person A wants to be taken to the cleaners and finds somebody to help them, that's their business and their money.

Granted, to an extent...

Oswalt for Mark Prior, I would register a complaint, but if it goes through via the league, then so be it.

[Mr Dio]

Who's the 5-watt bulb who can't count?


Hey guys, our scoring doesn't start until monday, but you
need to have all rosters legal by today. If a player on
your active roster is starting in the Minors, he must be
moved down to your Minor roster if you don't have the
maximum 5 already. After tomorrow, you can start trading
for Minor league players, and can have up to 10 at any time
this season. BUT you can't pick up anyone through free
agency that IS NOT ON A MAJOR LEAGUE ROSTER. No picking up
minor league players at all. Good luck everyone.



You tell who can't count OR read. :smokin
So, I admit, I was wrong on 8, it is 10!!!
Guess who is closer to reality???

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

For someone that has no interest you sure are fighting very, very hard for this trade.
Hmmm.................

Stop beating around the bush and say what you want to say about me.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Then Matt needs to add that to the constitution.

And also, that's my fault for not knowing the rules...guess what, I'm not getting upset because of a mistake on my part.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Yeah, and it seems like value and deals are either vastly skewed or dare I say (since you brought up collusion)...pre-arranged?


For someone that has no interest you sure are fighting very, very hard for this trade.
Hmmm.................

You made a fucking poll outside of the league...who's fighting so hard?

[Mr Dio]

You made a fucking poll outside of the league...who's fighting so hard?


Tsk tsk JB, cussing only shows how much you have to hide.


I OBJECTED to that trade.
OF COURSE I have interest in it IDIOT. :lol
Geez, common sense isn't so common.


Bottom line, you didn't vote in this poll yet you take 30min to defend an idiotic stance. Great going JB! :clap :lol

[FromWayDowntown]

I'd happily trade Zambrano if it netted me Oswalt and Miller in a keeper league. I'd feel like I had ripped off the other guy.

[Mr Dio]

I don't know. I only know it's not me.


Really????
But yet you go search thru the league constitution and you didn't happen to even notice? :lol :lol I believe ya man! :lol :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Why exactly do I need to vote in a poll in which you made my stance well-known in the first post.

That and I made my vote in the league.

But really, tell me again what I have to hide instead of making idiotic insinuations...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Really????
But yet you go search thru the league constitution and you didn't happen to even notice? :lol :lol I believe ya man! :lol :lol

It's called "citing facts to make your point."

[Mr Dio]

I'd happily trade Zambrano if it netted me Oswalt and Miller in a keeper league. I'd feel like I had ripped off the other guy.


EXACTLY!!!!


I VETO LESS THAN 1 trade per yr in all sports COMBINED. This one is too off balance and fishy to ignore.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

For such a miscarriage of justice, I still fail to see your other 3 votes to save your team from utter distruction.

[Mr Dio]

Why exactly do I need to vote in a poll in which you made my stance well-known in the first post.

That and I made my vote in the league.

But really, tell me again what I have to hide instead of making idiotic insinuations...



Hmmmm, dodgin' the poll AGAIN....Hmmm.............

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Cite what I've said, Dio...not some meaningless poll.

[Mr Dio]

For such a miscarriage of justice, I still fail to see your other 3 votes to save your team from utter distruction.


Yeah, because it's been so long that the trade has been out there.
Wasn't exactly announced midday was it Einstein?

Which brings me to this, Good Night JB. Hope your panties unwind during the night buddy! :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Hmmmm, dodgin' the poll AGAIN....Hmmm.............

Dodgin' my request to tell me what your insinuations are about me AGAIN....Hmmm.........

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Yeah, because it's been so long that the trade has been out there.
Wasn't exactly announced midday was it Einstein?

Which brings me to this, Good Night JB. Hope your panties unwind during the night buddy! :lol

I'd say two hours is a lot of time to register a complaint against this crime against humanity.

[Mr Dio]

I'd say two hours is a lot of time to register a complaint against this crime against humanity.


Yeah, because everyone, by law, has to online after 9p and before 12midnight right?

[TheTruth]

wow, i didn't think it was that lopsided a trade when I made it. Oswalt's bullpen sucks, and will cost him 5-10 wins this season. I've received 2 vetoes right now.

Sorry Blaze, i should have changed the constitution when I canged the rule. I just didn't think it would be any fun not to be able to trade for minor leaguers throughout the year.

And seriously Dio, if you think that I would collude with someone else in my league you are full of shit. I've put a lot of work into this league, and wouldn't do that to any of our owners.

[TheTruth]

The other owners will have until sunday to veto.

Shit, if I wanted to fuck the league, I wouldn't even have allowed the veto. You're making me made brining up the collusion word Dio.

[Mr Dio]

The other owners will have until sunday to veto.

Shit, if I wanted to fuck the league, I wouldn't even have allowed the veto. You're making me made brining up the collusion word Dio.


I'm full of it?......ME?...........I am full of it?????
Why, because I'm not the cheerleader that JB is????

I've never questioned your integrity, til now.
I'd held you as a man of your word and honor since we've had our wager last yr.

The way you and your little cheerleader have reacted makes think twice about collusion. I didn't bring it up, your cheerleader did.

[turambar85]

First, Oswalt will not, and cannot, lose 5-10 wins for a bullpen...come on. What an absurd claim, thats only possible if he wins like 10 games this year with a 3.5 or lower era. Not possible.

Second, Miller is one of the best 5-10 minors in the game, and has a legit chance at becoming an ace, and can even help a team this season as he is likely to get the call while Rogers is hurt. Oswalt is very similar to Zambrano, and to add a guy like Miller is just silly.

Third, ignore the world collusion. It was a foolish trade, but not bad enough to be cheating, just involves someone who doesn't understand or value minor leaguers, or who just wants badly to win this year. Again, bad trade, but a notch below protesting, and two notches below cheating.

[FromWayDowntown]

My comments weren't meant to indicate that I thought there was anything collusive -- not that I'd know, since I'm not a member of the league.

And I think anyone who complains about a trade just because someone appears to have gotten over in making the deal is a bitch.

[King]

The only reason a trade should be vetoed is if somebody is trying to cheat and load a team. It's not your job to manage a team and make sure each team receives equal value. If somebody likes Zambrano enough to give up Oswalt and a minor leaguer (who may or may not turn out to be anything) then so be it. You're trading stud for stud.

I'm not in the league - but people take their veto power way too far. It's not an unfair trade.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

First, Oswalt will not, and cannot, lose 5-10 wins for a bullpen...come on. What an absurd claim, thats only possible if he wins like 10 games this year with a 3.5 or lower era. Not possible.

Second, Miller is one of the best 5-10 minors in the game, and has a legit chance at becoming an ace, and can even help a team this season as he is likely to get the call while Rogers is hurt. Oswalt is very similar to Zambrano, and to add a guy like Miller is just silly.

Third, ignore the world collusion. It was a foolish trade, but not bad enough to be cheating, just involves someone who doesn't understand or value minor leaguers, or who just wants badly to win this year. Again, bad trade, but a notch below protesting, and two notches below cheating.

So you're saying that what happened on Opening Day couldn't possibly happen at least four more times in the next 160 games?

Last season, Oswalt had 15 wins and 25 quality starts (tied for first in baseball). Unless that lineup starts giving a ton more run support, which many of us have thought would happen (which is why I didn't trade Oswalt for Carpenter in another league), but has yet to be shown...Oswalt's gonna suffer from a bad bullpen and little run support.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

The only reason a trade should be vetoed is if somebody is trying to cheat and load a team. It's not your job to manage a team and make sure each team receives equal value. If somebody likes Zambrano enough to give up Oswalt and a minor leaguer (who may or may not turn out to be anything) then so be it. You're trading stud for stud.

I'm not in the league - but people take their veto power way too far. It's not an unfair trade.

Thank you for saying what I said so poorly many times already.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I'm full of it?......ME?...........I am full of it?????
Why, because I'm not the cheerleader that JB is????

I've never questioned your integrity, til now.
I'd held you as a man of your word and honor since we've had our wager last yr.

The way you and your little cheerleader have reacted makes think twice about collusion. I didn't bring it up, your cheerleader did.

Frankly, if you're questioning Matt's (and mine as evidenced above) integrity, maybe you ought to just sell your team so you're not burdened with people you can't trust.

You know, when Matt came to me about joining the league, I initially declined because there was an owner I preferred not to play in a league with. I simply didn't believe you'd be the one to make me question joining this new league rather than that original owner, but alas, I'm wrong.

[Mr Dio]

First, Oswalt will not, and cannot, lose 5-10 wins for a bullpen...come on. What an absurd claim, thats only possible if he wins like 10 games this year with a 3.5 or lower era. Not possible.

Second, Miller is one of the best 5-10 minors in the game, and has a legit chance at becoming an ace, and can even help a team this season as he is likely to get the call while Rogers is hurt. Oswalt is very similar to Zambrano, and to add a guy like Miller is just silly.

Third, ignore the world collusion. It was a foolish trade, but not bad enough to be cheating, just involves someone who doesn't understand or value minor leaguers, or who just wants badly to win this year. Again, bad trade, but a notch below protesting, and two notches below cheating.


Since it seems like you're of the few with common sense let me ask you.....
In regards to the third point above, what if the trading team owners were very closely related?
I NOW bring up this point because it seems like others want to call me out and act like they're so hurt and I'm sooo wrong. I've actually seen trade offers from both owners in other leagues/sports but not a single one has been so lopsided.

I have a right to my opinion and somehow I'm the only one to have enough common sense and balls to stand and & say so. If others are too much of a dumbass or afraid to speak their minds that is their pussy ass problem.
Not mine, I spoke up, so kiss my fat hairy ass. :smokin

[Mr Dio]

Frankly, if you're questioning Matt's (and mine as evidenced above) integrity, maybe you ought to just sell your team so you're not burdened with people you can't trust.

You know, when Matt came to me about joining the league, I initially declined because there was an owner I preferred not to play in a league with. I simply didn't believe you'd be the one to make me question joining this new league rather than that original owner, but alas, I'm wrong.


Since you brought it up why don't you have the balls to take over the team?
It seems like you're already someone's bitch so why not?
Sack up or shut up. :smokin

[Mr Dio]

The only reason a trade should be vetoed is if somebody is trying to cheat and load a team. It's not your job to manage a team and make sure each team receives equal value. If somebody likes Zambrano enough to give up Oswalt and a minor leaguer (who may or may not turn out to be anything) then so be it. You're trading stud for stud.

I'm not in the league - but people take their veto power way too far. It's not an unfair trade.


I'm not so much of a dumbass that I'd let siblings make such a lopsided trade in a PAY league and not voice my opinion.
If others are dumbasses so be it, not me. :smokin

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Since you brought it up why don't you have the balls to take over the team?
It seems like you're already someone's bitch so why not?
Sack up or shut up. :smokin

Fine. Where can I send your $40.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Since it seems like you're of the few with common sense let me ask you.....
In regards to the third point above, what if the trading team owners were very closely related?
I NOW bring up this point because it seems like others want to call me out and act like they're so hurt and I'm sooo wrong. I've actually seen trade offers from both owners in other leagues/sports but not a single one has been so lopsided.

I have a right to my opinion and somehow I'm the only one to have enough common sense and balls to stand and & say so. If others are too much of a dumbass or afraid to speak their minds that is their pussy ass problem.
Not mine, I spoke up, so kiss my fat hairy ass. :smokin

And nobody's saying you don't have a right to your opinion, so stop acting like somebody's calling for your voice to be silenced.

Again, don't like it - sell the team.

[TheTruth]

Dio, seriously man. I didn't think it was THAT lopsided a trade when I offered it to my sibling. I've sent out a bunch of different offers, and that is the one that came back accepted. I really don't know why you are making this big a deal about it. Especially bringing the collusion stuff into it. I asked every owner in the league to Veto it if they thought it was a lopsided trade. You and one other person HAVE vetoed it. 3 others haven't. The rest I have yet to hear from.

Zambrano IS a better fantasy option that Oswalt. Zambrano is projected to be the #2 pitcher in our league by sportsline using our scoring system. Seriously man, all you had to do was veto the trade.

[Mr Dio]

And nobody's saying you don't have a right to your opinion, so stop acting like somebody's calling for your voice to be silenced.

Again, don't like it - sell the team.


Again, sack up and take over the team.
It's your idea, you want my strong voice out then you have to buy it bitch.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

So what you're saying is there's a conspiracy against Dio since only one other owner seems to have a problem with the trade?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Again, sack up and take over the team.
It's your idea, you want my strong voice out then you have to buy it bitch.

RIF, fucker.


Fine. Where can I send your $40.

[TheTruth]

Dio, if you want out of the league over one trade offer to my sister, that I've given the other owners in the league the opportunity to veto then I'm sorry.

[Mr Dio]

Dio, seriously man. I didn't think it was THAT lopsided a trade when I offered it to my sibling. I've sent out a bunch of different offers, and that is the one that came back accepted. I really don't know why you are making this big a deal about it. Especially bringing the collusion stuff into it. I asked every owner in the league to Veto it if they thought it was a lopsided trade. You and one other person HAVE vetoed it. 3 others haven't. The rest I have yet to hear from.

Zambrano IS a better fantasy option that Oswalt. Zambrano is projected to be the #2 pitcher in our league by sportsline using our scoring system. Seriously man, all you had to do was veto the trade.


Matt, you know who made it a big deal ESPECIALLY with the "a minor is just a minor leaguer" lame ass remark.

Honestly Matt, all BS aside, is Miller just as good and have the same value as a prospect ranked #150 by Who Cares Scouting?

Go back and read the emails Matt, it was Panty Boy who started with the remakrs so I merely went along with it. And now I'm being told I took it too far? :lol Seems like when I out-sarcastic'd remarked the Panty Boy he blew up so I started this thread.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Oh, and I'll be damned if I stay silent while you call me a cheat, Dio.

Don't get upset with me because you're the only one with your fantasy league style [Dio stocked up on college players in a dynasty football league and didn't even work his lineups a few weeks (kept Warner as a starter when he was injured/backup) - and you're questioning league integrity?]

That takes some balls to be that much of a hypocrite.

[Mr Dio]

Dio, if you want out of the league over one trade offer to my sister, that I've given the other owners in the league the opportunity to veto then I'm sorry.


I didn't want out of the league.
Seems like your puppy dog really wants me out.

If the trade goes thru the Veto process and passes I'll abide with the ruling.
But don't get pissed when I embarass your puppy on this site. :lol

[Mr Dio]

Oh, and I'll be damned if I stay silent while you call me a cheat, Dio.

Don't get upset with me because you're the only one with your fantasy league style [Dio stocked up on college players in a dynasty football league and didn't even work his lineups a few weeks (kept Warner as a starter when he was injured/backup) - and you're questioning league integrity?]

That takes some balls to be that much of a hypocrite.


JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!

That gets to you??? :lol :lol :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I didn't want out of the league.
Seems like your puppy dog really wants me out.

If the trade goes thru the Veto process and passes I'll abide with the ruling.
But don't get pissed when I embarass your puppy on this site. :lol

You talk a bunch of shit, but I still am waiting for you to say where my integrity has been compromised.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!
JB IS A CHEAT!

That gets to you??? :lol :lol :lol

How many points did you lose out on when you didn't work your lineups and became the league doormat for a few weeks in the FBL?

[Mr Dio]

You talk a bunch of shit, but I still am waiting for you to say where my integrity has been compromised.


Integrity??
I know Integrity JB, and you sir, are No Integrity!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

And you still have yet to say where you want me to send your money, so if you're going to keep talking about "league integrity" and "cheats", tell me where you want your money or shut up.

[TheTruth]

JB and I haven't talked once about this trade. He was merely stating the fact that Minor Leaguers don't have much impact on your roster until they actually start scoring points for you. I can only guess what Katy's reason for accepting the trade would be, but Zambrano will help her win the title this season MORE than Oswalt will. Miller was just my way of getting more out of the deal.

[Mr Dio]

How many points did you lose out on when you didn't work your lineups and became the league doormat for a few weeks in the FBL?


You mean when I would wake-up @ 12noon on Sundays after partying on Sat nite? Sorry I wasn't online awaiting word on Warner's injury status every Sunday. Some people have a life JB. I can't apologize for your lack of one.

[TheTruth]

no one is cheating. dio and JB disagreed about the trade. lets just end it now. it's going to be a fun season if this is only the first week and we are so worked up about a trade. good luck to the both of you.

ANd are you sure you don't like any of my players for Weeks JB? I'll take him off your hands.

[Mr Dio]

And you still have yet to say where you want me to send your money, so if you're going to keep talking about "league integrity" and "cheats", tell me where you want your money or shut up.



I owe Matt the fee.
I'll let Matt decide if he wants he out or not. Either way doesn't hurt me but I wonder, Hmmm.....Why does JB The Cheat want me out so bad???
Hmmmmm, I can only wonder that my voice has made JB's lips dry and now he needs some Vagisil.


I'll let Matt decide, JBitch.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

no one is cheating. dio and JB disagreed about the trade. lets just end it now. it's going to be a fun season if this is only the first week and we are so worked up about a trade. good luck to the both of you.

ANd are you sure you don't like any of my players for Weeks JB? I'll take him off your hands.

Dio, $40.

Where do you want it sent?

[Mr Dio]

no one is cheating. dio and JB disagreed about the trade. lets just end it now. it's going to be a fun season if this is only the first week and we are so worked up about a trade. good luck to the both of you.

ANd are you sure you don't like any of my players for Weeks JB? I'll take him off your hands.


Do I have to delete my last post??? :lol

[Mr Dio]

no one is cheating. dio and JB disagreed about the trade. lets just end it now. it's going to be a fun season if this is only the first week and we are so worked up about a trade. good luck to the both of you.

ANd are you sure you don't like any of my players for Weeks JB? I'll take him off your hands.


I respect you Matt :toast

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I owe Matt the fee.
I'll let Matt decide if he wants he out or not. Either way doesn't hurt me but I wonder, Hmmm.....Why does JB The Cheat want me out so bad???
Hmmmmm, I can only wonder that my voice has made JB's lips dry and now he needs some Vagisil.


I'll let Matt decide, JBitch.

Actually, you should decide since we're all a bunch of cheats and you're going to lose this league regardless of how many minor-leaguers you stock up on.

I know you like young men in uniform, but this is only fantasy baseball, DIo.

[Mr Dio]

Actually, you should decide since we're all a bunch of cheats and you're going to lose this league regardless of how many minor-leaguers you stock up on.

I know you like young men in uniform, but this is only fantasy baseball, DIo.


What's wrong with old men in uniform??????

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

What's wrong with old men in uniform??????

Apparently, they earn fantasy league points that you don't recognize contribute to your winning this league.

[TheTruth]

I owe Matt the fee.
I'll let Matt decide if he wants he out or not. Either way doesn't hurt me but I wonder, Hmmm.....Why does JB The Cheat want me out so bad???
Hmmmmm, I can only wonder that my voice has made JB's lips dry and now he needs some Vagisil.


I'll let Matt decide, JBitch.
Dio isn't going anywhere. Even though he did fuck up his Keeper Football team pretty good.

[TheTruth]

And he traded me Garnett which has led directly to me being in the finals of our Fantasy Basketball league. For brittle ass Jermaine O'neal and either the 2nd to last or last pick of the first round of our draft next season.

[Mr Dio]

And he traded me Garnett which has led directly to me being in the finals of our Fantasy Basketball league. For brittle ass Jermaine O'neal and either the 2nd to last or last pick of the first round of our draft next season.


There was no way, I mean no way of me making the playoffs this yr.
Everyone has to agree I have a vast influx of talent, VERY good talent coming in the league next yr. So, I had to play for next yr.

I now have O'Neal AND Chandler as players with the F/C option and I could have Durant/RLewis/Noah as my other F's.

BTW, I also have my 2nd OVERALL pick. :clap

[TheTruth]

I'm going to be you next year. I traded my first, second, and fourth round picks to win it this year. If I do win it I'll get to keep KG, Roy, Boozer, Heinrich, and Delonte West. It's gonna be hard to rebuild around them with out those picks.

[Mr Dio]

My team was absolutely RAPED by the roster limits.