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turambar85
04-10-2007, 09:40 AM
Who was the best band of the 60's and 70's?

Pink Floyd, managed to lose their creative genius and star performer in Syd and remained a dominate force in rock history.

Led Zeppelin....Stairway to Heaven, enough said.

The Beatles, 7,842 number one hits. I think.

leemajors
04-10-2007, 10:03 AM
Stones.

Viva Las Espuelas
04-10-2007, 10:15 AM
That's hard, but in my opinion, it's between Led Zeppelin and The Beatles only. There will never be another Bonzo. They could go from a whisper to a roar from the stroke of any one of his limbs. The Beatles wrote some of the most memorable melodies and their sound has influenced many bands. I'd give it to Led Zeppelin, but The Beatles are a close second.

degenerate_gambler
04-10-2007, 10:21 AM
Doobie Bros.
Skynyrd
Earth Wind & Fire
Beach Boys
Ted Nugent
ZZ Top
Kool & The Gang

tlongII
04-10-2007, 10:27 AM
1. The Beatles
2. Pink Floyd




99. Led Zeppelin


Zeppelin was just not a good band. Horrible singer in Robert Plant and an overrated guitar player in Jimmy Page. Stairway to Heaven was decent, but none of their other tunes were worth a shit.

TDMVPDPOY
04-10-2007, 11:18 AM
how about the beatles individually ranked wit them fellas?

Billy Shears
04-10-2007, 11:27 AM
These are my top 3 favorite bands of all time. Hands down.

I'd say it's between the Beatles and Zep.

Individually, John Lennon is definitely my favorite member of the three, but I think Zep is my favorite band.

turambar85
04-10-2007, 12:19 PM
No love for the Floyd? Come on, the Beatles were a glorified pop band.

Viva Las Espuelas
04-10-2007, 12:30 PM
No love for the Floyd? Come on, the Beatles were a glorified pop band.they started as one. i didn't really care for the "i wanna hold your hand" era. i guess i got into them when they got into drugs.

Mixability
04-10-2007, 12:31 PM
No love for the Floyd? Come on, the Beatles were a glorified pop band.

:tu

Beatles = overrated

turambar85
04-10-2007, 01:02 PM
they started as one. i didn't really care for the "i wanna hold your hand" era. i guess i got into them when they got into drugs.


And most of their hits came from this era. Even their better stuff was shallow in comparison to Floydian works. Its just a different beast.

I won't deny the talent of each Beatle...but talent does not equate to musical grandeur. I would put the Beatles behind Floyd, the Stones, and Led Zep simple because of the nature of their works.

mookie2001
04-10-2007, 01:04 PM
dam yall are pops as shit, stairway was one of zeppelins worst songs

Spurminator
04-10-2007, 01:08 PM
And most of their hits came from this era.

When people talk about The Beatles in terms of being among the greatest bands in music history, they're not talking about the early work. For example, you won't see "With the Beatles" and "Please Please Me" on any lists of the top ten albums ever recorded.

I love all three of these bands, but if any of them is overrated, it's Pink Floyd.

leemajors
04-10-2007, 01:22 PM
When people talk about The Beatles in terms of being among the greatest bands in music history, they're not talking about the early work. For example, you won't see "With the Beatles" and "Please Please Me" on any lists of the top ten albums ever recorded.

I love all three of these bands, but if any of them is overrated, it's Pink Floyd.

here here.

mardigan
04-10-2007, 01:34 PM
None of these bands are over-rated, they all did different things for rock. Out of the 3 I enjoy The Beatles and Floyd pretty much equally. If anyone is over-rated its the fucking Stones

leemajors
04-10-2007, 01:55 PM
None of these bands are over-rated, they all did different things for rock. Out of the 3 I enjoy The Beatles and Floyd pretty much equally. If anyone is over-rated its the fucking Stones

stones early stuff was great, their later stuff has dropped off but they were amazingly consistently good for a looong time. their dropoff wasn't nearly as horrible as pink floyd's when waters left. those 2 albums after him are god awful.

Spurminator
04-10-2007, 02:06 PM
I don't know, I thought they were both better than The Final Cut.

A bit over processed, but at least they were musical.

Bob Lanier
04-10-2007, 02:08 PM
Is Led Zeppelin the joke option here?

mardigan
04-10-2007, 02:11 PM
Is Led Zeppelin the joke option here?
Yea, personally I never liked Zeppelin at all, I can see how thet are a good band and all, but I cant stand their music or Plants voice

David Bowie
04-10-2007, 02:16 PM
I'd say its a tie between the Beatles and Floyd. The Beatles were my introduction into classic rock, and the I discovered Pink Floyd and their trippy sounds. Had an obsession with both at different points of my life.

Led Zeppelin is great too, but I only like select songs.

mardigan
04-10-2007, 02:21 PM
That the jam right there^^^^^

Spurminator
04-10-2007, 02:24 PM
Speaking of... I'd say Bowie is more overrated than the lot of them.

But that's just my opinion.

mardigan
04-10-2007, 02:25 PM
Speaking of... I'd say Bowie is more overrated than the lot of them.

But that's just my opinion.
Yea, probably, but he has a couple songs that are on my all time favorites list

Bob Lanier
04-10-2007, 02:31 PM
Speaking of... I'd say Bowie is more overrated than the lot of them.

But that's just my opinion.
...than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Spurminator
04-10-2007, 02:32 PM
I wanted to like him.... I downloaded a bunch of his 70's albums and immersed myself in them for a week, but it never really clicked. Aladdin Sane, Ziggy Stardust, Station to Station, Low...

Hunky Dory was the only one I got through without wanting to stop. I haven't listened to Heroes yet.

At least it was inventive, though. For that reason, I'll probably give him another shot at some point. But for now, to me, he's one of those critical darlings of the Seventies whose appeal I don't really understand.

But that's art...

_so eMo i'm dEAd_:(
04-10-2007, 02:55 PM
staind > beatles + led zeplin + pink floyd

mardigan
04-10-2007, 03:25 PM
staind > beatles + led zeplin + pink floyd
Emo kids dont listen to Staind pendejo

_so eMo i'm dEAd_:(
04-10-2007, 03:45 PM
Emo kids dont listen to Staind pendejo


DONT CATEGORIZE ME


i listen to a bunch of different bands with different styles...


sunny day real estate, panic! at the disco, my chemical romance, the used and afi

but staind is the best band ever, especially because of their lyrics.


All the times
That I’ve cried
All that’s wasted
It’s all inside

And I feel
All this pain
Stuffed it down
It’s back again

And I lie
Here in bed
All alone
I can’t mend

And I feel
Tomorrow will be okay
But I know

That I’m on the outside
I’m looking in
I can see through you
See your true colors
Cause inside you’re ugly
You’re ugly like me
I can see through you
See to the real you


sometimes i listen to break the cycle while i lay in bed and cry


i sent this song to my ex-gf when she broke up with me:


what's happened to you?
it's obvious you've changed
something deep inside you is probably to blame
must be lonely up there with your head up in the clouds
even though you got there what does your conscience tell you now?


i don't understand how anyone can listen to a song like ob la di ob la da while the world around them becomes more and more of a wasteland of shit and suffering.

mardigan
04-10-2007, 03:46 PM
:lol my favorite troll right now

IX_Equilibrium
04-10-2007, 05:03 PM
1. The Beatles
2. Pink Floyd




99. Led Zeppelin


Zeppelin was just not a good band. Horrible singer in Robert Plant and an overrated guitar player in Jimmy Page. Stairway to Heaven was decent, but none of their other tunes were worth a shit.

Unbelievably moronic post

tlongII
04-10-2007, 05:24 PM
Unbelievably moronic post


It's the truth.

Shelly
04-10-2007, 06:01 PM
Well, Tlong's favorite song IS Baa Baa Black sheep...

Pugglekicker_21
04-10-2007, 06:14 PM
I like them all equally, but i see where some people are coming from when they say that they dont understnd why the Beatles are called the best band in the history of rock, or for that case music.

what I really hate more than anything is when Im wearing a t shirt of said bands and others, and some annoying fuck always has that look like, do you really like them, or are you a homer....cant stand them..

going out to rent the Wizard of Oz and listen to Dark Side of the Moon at the same time..

this thread has given me an idea for an ava....

JMarkJohns
04-10-2007, 06:16 PM
1. Stones
2. Floyd
3. Zeppelin

\/ way on down...

Beatles.

First three were rock, the latter was pop played on guitar. I appreciate it for it's imapct, quality and popularity, but if this is about rock, the prior three are simply better.

whottt
04-10-2007, 06:17 PM
I wouldn't exactly describe Zeppelin as a 60's band...or really Floyd for that matter...both of them were around in the 60's, but it's primarily their 70's work that put them on the landscape.



It's kind of hard to compare them, because Floyd has an entire body of work built around what was originally just a phase the Beates went through. I'd say that just by design you have to put the Beatles over Floyd...since without them there would absolutely be no Floyd as we know it...the members of the band themselves have stated that SGT Pepper was their inspiration when creating their own identity.




In terms of pure music artistry, originality and creativity......I think Floyd and the Beatles are way higher than Zeppelin..


But Zeppelin is the reason heavy metal emerged as the dominant form of hard rock from the sixties and not Acid Rock. Sabbath was the original Heavy Metal Band but that type of heavy heavy Rock would never have been much without Zeppelin.



As a journalist once described it...they pounded Pscychedelia into submission.


It's a tough argument and I've listened to so much of all of their music that it's hard to really get excited about it anymore...

I guess the Beatles, they were the big innovators, the great songwriters, and they had such a huge impact on every band that came after them(including Zep and especially Floyd). They damn sure sold the most records.

Shelly
04-10-2007, 06:18 PM
Led Zeppelin's first album was released in 1968

whottt
04-10-2007, 06:19 PM
Without a doubt...the Rolling Stones are the most over-rated band in history.

They've released about 50 albums and only have about 10-20 really good songs(and I'm probably being generous here).

Cant_Be_Faded
04-10-2007, 06:21 PM
The beatles are the most overrated band in the history of american culture....they were pretty boys doing Justin Timberlake-esque music, who decided to follow the crowd and take drugs at a time when counter culture was reaching a crescendo, and also made use of breakthrough equipment along the way...yet some people talk as if they designed the equipment they used.

Bottom line is they were in the right place at the right time, good songwriters but wayyyy overrated today.

In actuality all of these old bands are overrated now, but Beatles takes the cake by far.

whottt
04-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Led Zeppelin's first album was released in 1968

And Floyd's first album was even before that...



In terms of pure sixties impact this is no contest that the Beatles have the best music...

In terms of 70's impact it's no contest for Zeppelin and Floyd over the Beatles...

And the Beatles definitely had a bigger impact on the sixties than Zep and Floyd did on the seventies.

whottt
04-10-2007, 06:29 PM
How come Rush wasn't included? They formed in 1968.[/Spurminator]

Cant_Be_Faded
04-10-2007, 06:30 PM
Rush was considered by some to be a LZ clone with their first album but I disagree.

mookie2001
04-10-2007, 06:38 PM
zeppelin is probably top 3 bands of all time
i could go the rest of my life with one zeppelin cd

when the levee breaks
tangerine
going to california
gallows pole
no quarter
hey hey what can i say
thats the way
battle of evermore

were all some of the greatest period.


beatles are overrated but they have some jams, although it took the 60s tv show Wonder Years to inspire them, plus lucy in the sky with diamonds was the first of its kind

but i'll still stand by my statement that pink floyd is one of the most overrated bands of all time, they were the creed of their time, theyre famous more for wizard of oz and their tshirts than music

but mother (should i trust the government fuck no) was a jam, that doesnt make floyd better than other vastly underrated bands of the same era, rush, sabbath, neil young, all rubbed Floyd in smegma


the only other band more overrated is the Doors

mookie2001
04-10-2007, 06:42 PM
plus im so emo im dead doesnt make any sense

emotional is the EXACT opposite of dead

its im so gothic im dead

whottt
04-10-2007, 06:51 PM
zeppelin is probably top 3 bands of all time
i could go the rest of my life with one zeppelin cd


So if you had to go the rest of your life listening to only one album from each, which would it be?




For me
Beatles - Abbey Road
Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Zeppelin - Zeppelin II(In a close battle with Zep I)


If I had to pick one...

Prolly Abbey Road...it's got the most different singers and and songwriters on it, has all different styles of music. You had Harrison coming into his own as a songwriter and singer, plus McCartney and Lennon were still at their peak...even Ringo chips in with a classic.

Cant_Be_Faded
04-10-2007, 06:59 PM
Floyd's Smegma will be the name of my new band.

exstatic
04-10-2007, 07:11 PM
The beatles are the most overrated band in the history of american culture....they were pretty boys doing Justin Timberlake-esque music, who decided to follow the crowd and take drugs at a time when counter culture was reaching a crescendo, and also made use of breakthrough equipment along the way...yet some people talk as if they designed the equipment they used.

Bottom line is they were in the right place at the right time, good songwriters but wayyyy overrated today.

In actuality all of these old bands are overrated now, but Beatles takes the cake by far.
You SOOO don't know shit about the Beatles. These guys were fucking hoods. They were packaged as clean cut mop tops for their first few albums, but they broke out of that as soon as they could. Here's the sequence.

The Beatles took drugs.................everyone else took drugs
The Beatles were politically active.............everyone else decided to protest
The Beatles did pyschedelic music..........eveyone else did psychedelic music
The Beatles did feedback electric guitars...........everyone else decided to

There would have been no counterculture without the Beatles. Period.

whottt
04-10-2007, 07:19 PM
You SOOO don't know shit about the Beatles. These guys were fucking hoods. They were packaged as clean cut mop tops for their first few albums, but they broke out of that as soon as they could. Here's the sequence.

The Beatles took drugs.................everyone else took drugs
The Beatles were politically active.............everyone else decided to protest


Actually it's...Bob Dylan took drugs.................Beatles took drugs.
Bob Dylan was politically active.....................Beatles decided to protest.




The Beatles did pyschedelic music..........eveyone else did psychedelic music
The Beatles did feedback electric guitars...........everyone else decided to

Ok, you got me here.



There would have been no counterculture without Bob Dylan. Period.

Fixed that for ya.

whottt
04-10-2007, 07:22 PM
How come Shelly never picked?

whottt
04-10-2007, 07:23 PM
Speaking of... I'd say Bowie is more overrated than the lot of them.

But that's just my opinion.


He's got a shit load of great songs and managed to stay musicially relevant way longer than any of them.

He's definitely not over-rated...he's still pretty obscure.

mookie2001
04-10-2007, 07:27 PM
its a crime to mention pyschedelic music without roky erickson


roky erickson

Guru of Nothing
04-10-2007, 09:02 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/AQUA/24-268~Spinal-Tap-Posters.jpg

Shelly
04-10-2007, 09:04 PM
How come Shelly never picked?


Oh, Led Zeppelin all the way. They were my favorite band in high school.

Shelly
04-10-2007, 09:09 PM
However, I have listened to Animals in it's entirety :sleep

leemajors
04-10-2007, 09:10 PM
He's got a shit load of great songs and managed to stay musicially relevant way longer than any of them.

He's definitely not over-rated...he's still pretty obscure.

actually, bowie has less than 20 good songs himself. probably closer to 10. considering how many albums he has put out...

RashoFan
04-10-2007, 09:12 PM
I would have to go with The Beatles...The way they evolved musically( Bubble Gum to Pyschedelic and everything they did in between), their image( clean cut to long haired weirdos to beads and flowers). They were an influence on many singers, songwriters, muscians and bands.
But Pink Floyd is the shit! They are number 2...

tlongII
04-10-2007, 09:37 PM
The guys in Zep just could not play! Page had no technique on the guitar. The notes are so muddled it's ridiculous. Plant is a terrible singer and their drummer wasn't very good either. The praise people lavish upon them makes me ill.

The Who
Yes
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer


All far better bands than Zep.

Viva Las Espuelas
04-10-2007, 10:05 PM
The guys in Zep just could not play! ..........and their drummer wasn't very good either. i'm sorry, but i have to call you a jackass for that statement alone.

probably he couldn't play in 17/16 like White and Palmer or have a million drums in front of him like Moon, but he could definitely play, sir. I wonder what Zeppelin would have sounded with Moon if he'd stayed around. frankly i'm glad he didn't.

whottt
04-10-2007, 10:28 PM
The guys in Zep just could not play! Page had no technique on the guitar. The notes are so muddled it's ridiculous. Plant is a terrible singer and their drummer wasn't very good either. The praise people lavish upon them makes me ill.

The Who
Yes
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer


All far better bands than Zep.


Put down the sheep pipe...

You are thinking of the post Zep page that was a recovering heroin addict. Who didn't play the guitar for 5 years.

The Zep page, not only was he one of the most innovative soloists ever...he was also a wizard in the studio.

Prior to that he was a session guitarist who played for, among others...the Four Seasons, the Kinks, the Who, the Rolling Stones, Peggy Lee, Brenda Lee, Van Morrison...Tom Jones....Donovan.

Oh yeah...played some sessions for Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck too...

Sorry but he was the quintessential guitarist, particularly in the studio.

It's pretty difficult to pull off that studio Zeppelin sound live...even for Jimmy Page.



I want you to tell me what's sloppy about Good Times Bad Times, Stairway to heaven....when the Levee breaks.


There's no slop there...

You try and play it.

whottt
04-10-2007, 10:30 PM
I think all 4 of the Zeppelin Members were session musicians originally...they earned their living entirely based on their instrumental skill.


IT's more like...the guys in Zeppelin could play...

But it's also pretty easy to understand why their studio work sounds so much better than their live stuff.

whottt
04-10-2007, 10:33 PM
And John Bonnam was the best drummer ever. How in the hell can you say John Bonnham can't play?

whottt
04-10-2007, 10:34 PM
tlong:

Jimmy Page can't play guitar
John Paul Jones can't play bass
John Bonham can't play drums.

Damn...that's about as incorrect as you can get.

mookie2001
04-10-2007, 10:49 PM
especially Bonham he made Dave Lombardo look like... a comparable drummer

johngateswhiteley
04-10-2007, 10:52 PM
i don't like the beatles or pf nearly as much as i like Led Zeppelin.

AlamoSpursFan
04-10-2007, 11:08 PM
And John Bonnam was the best drummer ever. How in the hell can you say John Bonnham can't play?

Spoken like a man who's never heard Neil Peart play...

http://www.drumcentral.com/images_sab_paragon/NeilPeart.jpg

mookie2001
04-10-2007, 11:12 PM
peart was fucking dominant

whottt
04-10-2007, 11:34 PM
Spoken like a man who's never heard Neil Peart play...

http://www.drumcentral.com/images_sab_paragon/NeilPeart.jpg




John Bonnam > Peart


It's not all about speed.

NZ Spurs
04-11-2007, 05:57 AM
Whats wrong with Pop music?

Ya'll act like the Beatles were formed by some record company, given some lyrics to sing and promoted to hell like the "pop" singers of today.

Don't fucking lump the Beatles in with the shit forced down our throat today.

Elliott Smith, Jon Brion, Amie Mann, Cat Power, Crowded House are all classified as "Pop"

Jimcs50
04-11-2007, 08:29 AM
Beatles

The Who

Led Zeppelin

The Rolling Stones

tlongII
04-11-2007, 08:54 AM
tlong:

Jimmy Page can't play guitar
John Paul Jones can't play bass
John Bonham can't play drums.

Damn...that's about as incorrect as you can get.


You obviously know very little about music. There's no way those guys were session players. Unless the sessions consisted of high-school rock bands.

IX_Equilibrium
04-11-2007, 08:55 AM
You obviously know very little about music.


Yeah, like you know about music. :lol

Spurminator
04-11-2007, 09:23 AM
Sgt. Pepper in 1967 was no more your standard "pop" music than OK Computer was in 1997.

leemajors
04-11-2007, 09:26 AM
Whats wrong with Pop music?

Ya'll act like the Beatles were formed by some record company, given some lyrics to sing and promoted to hell like the "pop" singers of today.

Don't fucking lump the Beatles in with the shit forced down our throat today.

Elliott Smith, Jon Brion, Amie Mann, Cat Power, Crowded House are all classified as "Pop"

that was the monkees.

JoeChalupa
04-11-2007, 09:53 AM
Each has their own place in Rock History and I love all three bands.
Each takes me back to good times.
No need to get too deep.

Shelly
04-11-2007, 10:45 AM
You obviously know very little about music. There's no way those guys were session players. Unless the sessions consisted of high-school rock bands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page

Session player
While still a student, Page would often jam on stage at The Marquee with bands such as the Cyril Davis All Stars, Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated and with guitarists Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton. He was spotted one night by John Gibb of The Silhouettes, who asked him to help record a number of singles for EMI, including "The Worrying Kind". It wasn't until an offer from Mike Leander of Decca Records that Page was to receive regular studio work. His first session for the label was the recording "Diamonds" by Jet Harris & Tony Meehan which went to Number 1 on the singles chart in early 1963.

After brief stints with Carter-Lewis and the Southerners, Mike Hurst's group, and Mickey Finn and the Blue Men, Page committed himself to full-time session work. As a session guitarist he was known as 'Little Jim' so there was no confusion with Big Jim Sullivan i.e. 'Big Jim'. Little Jim's studio output in 1964 included Marianne Faithfull's "As Tears Go By", The Nashville Teens' "Tobacco Road", The Rolling Stones' "Heart of Stone" (alternate version), Van Morrison & Them's "Baby Please Don't Go" and "Here Comes The Night", Dave Berry's "The Crying Game" and "My Baby Left Me", and Brenda Lee's "Is It True". Under the auspices of producer Shel Talmy, Page contributed to The Kinks' 1964 debut album (although, despite rumours to the contrary, he did not play any of the guitar solos); and he sat in on the sessions for The Who's first single "I Can't Explain" (although his guitar parts may not appear on the final mix), but he played on the B-side "Bald Headed Woman". In 1965, Page was hired by Rolling Stones manager Andrew Loog Oldham to act as house producer and A&R man for the newly-formed Immediate Records label, which also allowed him to play on and/or produce tracks by John Mayall, Nico, Chris Farlowe and Eric Clapton. Page also formed a brief songwriting partnership with then romantic interest, Jackie DeShannon. He worked as session musician on the Al Stewart album Love Chronicles from 1969. He also played guitar on five tracks of Joe Cocker's debut album, With A Little Help From My Friends.

Although Jimmy Page has recorded with many now famous musicians, many of his early recordings are unfortunately only available through bootlegged copies, many of which were released by the Led Zeppelin fan club in the late 1970s. The records released by the fan club include many otherwise unreleased live Led Zeppelin recordings. One of the rarest of these is the early jam session featuring Jimmy Page playing with Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_Jones_(musician)

Session work
Jones joined his first band, The Deltas, at 15. He then played bass for jazz-rock London group, Jett Blacks. His big break came in 1962 when he met Jet Harris and Tony Meehan (who had just left the Shadows) and played bass for their band for two years. Jet and Tony had just had a Number 1 hit with "Diamonds" (a track on which Jimmy Page had played.)

Jones played "his '61 Fender Jazz Bass on hundreds of sessions from 1962 to 1968[1] and in 1964, Jones began session work with Decca Records on the recommendations of Tony Meehan. Between 1964 and 1968 he was much in demand arranging, and playing keyboards or bass guitar for artists including the Rolling Stones on Their Satanic Majesties Request; Herman's Hermits; Donovan on Sunshine Superman and Mellow Yellow; Jeff Beck; Cat Stevens; Rod Stewart; Shirley Bassey; Lulu; and numerous others. As well as recording sessions with Dusty Springfield, Jones also played bass for her Talk Of The Town series of performances. His arranging and playing on Donovan's "Sunshine Superman", resulted in producer Mickie Most using his services as choice arranger for many of his own projects, with Tom Jones, Nico, Wayne Fontana, the Walker Brothers, and many others. Jones also got to record with fellow friends of Tony Meehan and Jet Harris, none other than Meehan and Harris' ex-band, Cliff Richard and the Shadows.

Before these recordings, Cliff Richard and the Shadows came close to changing history by nearly preventing the future formation of Led Zeppelin, when they had talks about Jones replacing their ex-bassist Brian "Licorice" Locking. Instead they chose John Rostill.

However, by 1968 Jones was quickly becoming burnt out. As a session arranger he was composing scores for horns and strings the night before, handing them out the next day and finishing the product. "I was arranging 50 or 60 things a month and it was starting to kill me

leemajors
04-11-2007, 10:51 AM
jones also produced one of my fave albums, Butthole Surfers' Independent Worm Saloon.

leemajors
04-11-2007, 11:47 AM
who is the greatest drummer.......watch until the end....jazz, rock, big band. this guy is the greatest...PERIOD.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExFEbQuNo3E&NR=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYpR5iw9F1M

Drive Like Jehu
04-11-2007, 02:14 PM
Ccr

tlongII
04-11-2007, 02:21 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page

Session player
While still a student, Page would often jam on stage at The Marquee with bands such as the Cyril Davis All Stars, Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated and with guitarists Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton. He was spotted one night by John Gibb of The Silhouettes, who asked him to help record a number of singles for EMI, including "The Worrying Kind". It wasn't until an offer from Mike Leander of Decca Records that Page was to receive regular studio work. His first session for the label was the recording "Diamonds" by Jet Harris & Tony Meehan which went to Number 1 on the singles chart in early 1963.

After brief stints with Carter-Lewis and the Southerners, Mike Hurst's group, and Mickey Finn and the Blue Men, Page committed himself to full-time session work. As a session guitarist he was known as 'Little Jim' so there was no confusion with Big Jim Sullivan i.e. 'Big Jim'. Little Jim's studio output in 1964 included Marianne Faithfull's "As Tears Go By", The Nashville Teens' "Tobacco Road", The Rolling Stones' "Heart of Stone" (alternate version), Van Morrison & Them's "Baby Please Don't Go" and "Here Comes The Night", Dave Berry's "The Crying Game" and "My Baby Left Me", and Brenda Lee's "Is It True". Under the auspices of producer Shel Talmy, Page contributed to The Kinks' 1964 debut album (although, despite rumours to the contrary, he did not play any of the guitar solos); and he sat in on the sessions for The Who's first single "I Can't Explain" (although his guitar parts may not appear on the final mix), but he played on the B-side "Bald Headed Woman". In 1965, Page was hired by Rolling Stones manager Andrew Loog Oldham to act as house producer and A&R man for the newly-formed Immediate Records label, which also allowed him to play on and/or produce tracks by John Mayall, Nico, Chris Farlowe and Eric Clapton. Page also formed a brief songwriting partnership with then romantic interest, Jackie DeShannon. He worked as session musician on the Al Stewart album Love Chronicles from 1969. He also played guitar on five tracks of Joe Cocker's debut album, With A Little Help From My Friends.

Although Jimmy Page has recorded with many now famous musicians, many of his early recordings are unfortunately only available through bootlegged copies, many of which were released by the Led Zeppelin fan club in the late 1970s. The records released by the fan club include many otherwise unreleased live Led Zeppelin recordings. One of the rarest of these is the early jam session featuring Jimmy Page playing with Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards

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Session work
Jones joined his first band, The Deltas, at 15. He then played bass for jazz-rock London group, Jett Blacks. His big break came in 1962 when he met Jet Harris and Tony Meehan (who had just left the Shadows) and played bass for their band for two years. Jet and Tony had just had a Number 1 hit with "Diamonds" (a track on which Jimmy Page had played.)

Jones played "his '61 Fender Jazz Bass on hundreds of sessions from 1962 to 1968[1] and in 1964, Jones began session work with Decca Records on the recommendations of Tony Meehan. Between 1964 and 1968 he was much in demand arranging, and playing keyboards or bass guitar for artists including the Rolling Stones on Their Satanic Majesties Request; Herman's Hermits; Donovan on Sunshine Superman and Mellow Yellow; Jeff Beck; Cat Stevens; Rod Stewart; Shirley Bassey; Lulu; and numerous others. As well as recording sessions with Dusty Springfield, Jones also played bass for her Talk Of The Town series of performances. His arranging and playing on Donovan's "Sunshine Superman", resulted in producer Mickie Most using his services as choice arranger for many of his own projects, with Tom Jones, Nico, Wayne Fontana, the Walker Brothers, and many others. Jones also got to record with fellow friends of Tony Meehan and Jet Harris, none other than Meehan and Harris' ex-band, Cliff Richard and the Shadows.

Before these recordings, Cliff Richard and the Shadows came close to changing history by nearly preventing the future formation of Led Zeppelin, when they had talks about Jones replacing their ex-bassist Brian "Licorice" Locking. Instead they chose John Rostill.

However, by 1968 Jones was quickly becoming burnt out. As a session arranger he was composing scores for horns and strings the night before, handing them out the next day and finishing the product. "I was arranging 50 or 60 things a month and it was starting to kill me


Meh...they still suck. They played in blues bands. It takes little talent to play 5 note blues scales.

nickbroken
04-11-2007, 02:47 PM
Pink floyd, hands down, they made epic albums. I can't sat much about the Beatles, I never really listened to them. From what I understand they were great at making singles, I'll take great albums over great singles.

Spurminator
04-11-2007, 02:51 PM
From what I understand they were great at making singles, I'll take great albums over great singles.


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Bandwagon Bill
04-11-2007, 03:03 PM
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only 5 great albums? Metallica had that before 1992. And they have 0 since

whottt
04-11-2007, 03:08 PM
only 5 great albums? Metallica had that before 1992. And they have 0 since

Metallica had been around for 12 years or so by that time...

The Beatles were only around for 12 years total(and that includes their earliest prototypes)...and their best lineup was only together for 8 yearsa or so.


And I'd say it's more a case of...Metallica had 1 great album that they recorded 5 times before 1992....and they've recorded it again 10 times since...

Spurminator
04-11-2007, 03:21 PM
Yeaahhhhhhh... Those 5 albums I listed were recorded in a span of less than 4 years.

And they had some other classics in that span as well... not the monumental album achievements, but some groundbreaking songs.

leemajors
04-11-2007, 03:27 PM
metallica had good albums after cliff died?

Bandwagon Bill
04-11-2007, 03:34 PM
I guess I forgot the blue ink.

And I really liked Metallica's first 5 albums. Everything after that was pretty much junk. IMO the best one was "... And Justice for All", post Cliff. But, like all this shit, it's subjective

Bandwagon Bill
04-11-2007, 03:36 PM
And I'd say it's more a case of...Metallica had 1 great album that they recorded 5 times before 1992....and they've recorded it again 10 times since...

That's a pretty ignorant statement. Those first 4 were classic, very in depth and weren't rehashed. The 5th one was different, but still good. Everything after was nothing like the first 5.

_so eMo i'm dEAd_:(
04-11-2007, 04:26 PM
plus im so emo im dead doesnt make any sense

emotional is the EXACT opposite of dead

its im so gothic im dead



spoken like someone who has never had their heart ripped out of their chest and stomped on

i'd love to see how u survive that





btw, the only good led zeplin song is all of my love

Shelly
04-11-2007, 04:44 PM
I believe All My Love was about Plant's son who died of a mystery virus when he was 5 years old :(

Emo kid should like this Zep song:

In my time of dying, want nobody to mourn
All I want for you to do is take my body home

Well, well, well, so I can die easy (X2)

Jesus, gonna make up my dyin' bed.
Meet me, Jesus, meet me. Meet me in the middle of the air
If my wings should fail me, Lord. Please meet me with another pair

Well, well, well, so I can die easy (X2)

Jesus, gonna make up.. somebody, somebody...
Jesus gonna make up... Jesus gonna make you my dyin' bed

Oh, Saint Peter, i command to live... Won't you let me in
I never did no harm. I never did no wrong

Oh, Gabriel, let me blow your horn. Let me blow your horn
Oh, I never did, did no harm.

I've only been this young once. I never thought I'd do anybody no wrong
No, not once.

Oh, I did somebody some good. Somebody some good...
Oh, did somebody some good. I must have did somebody some good...
Oh, I believe I did

I see the smiling faces
I know I must have left some traces

And I see them in the streets
And I see them in the field
And I hear them shouting under my feet
And I know it's got to be real
Oh, Lord, deliver me
All the wrong I've done
You can deliver me, Lord
I only wanted to have some fun.

Hear the angels marchin', hear the' marchin', hear them marchin',
hear them marchin', the' marchin'

John Patrick
04-11-2007, 08:47 PM
I like these bands all the same..


but no one can deny the Beatles' accomplishments for music.

giddyup42
04-22-2007, 01:01 PM
Pink Floyd is not even in the same league with Led Zeppelin and The Beatles Floyd had some good songs but i would much rather see the stones group in with these two
My ranking are
1) The Beatles
2) The Rolling Stones
3) Led Zeppelin
4) Hendrix :fro

25 or so is Pink Floyd