Imus and the double standard...again

[The_Worlds_finest]

Why is it that one cannot watch an episode of South Park, Family Guy, Drawn together and many other television shows without hearing or seeing racist/sexual/income status/etc...insults. No fuss made, but when Imus makes a statement all hell breaks?
Just last night on southpark, the writers make fun of mexican labors, lesbians, and persians. No complants. Imus makes a comment and bam he is fired. Do not take this thread out of context for him to say what he did about those girl is pretty demeeing and insulting but shouldnt the rule follow rule?

[boutons_]

Imus is a flesh-and-blood shock jock who seriously means the shit he's been saying for many years.

South Park is only a joke-y cartoon with no pretensions to be taken seriously.

The real double standard is the rampant, nasty, degrading, violent misogyny of n*gg*z' rap vs Imus' ilk.

[The_Worlds_finest]

Ofcourse this topic has been brought up to radio talk show host before and the reply is what you say. Please take no offense but its all subjective if you ask me as the mighty bruce bowen would say it is what it is

And yes agree rap music has become extremly degrading recently. It is quiet disgusting, would you agree that the media molds the minds of vulnerable people or is that a stretch?

[sabar]

Matt and Trey on South Park deliberately portray those stereotypes to make a point, every episode is a mockery of what they think is moral and immoral and how the world thinks.

Imus, being on the radio with many listers, unfortunately has a position of power and influence, and you aren't going to get away saying things like that when you have so much pull in how people think. If he was an obscure little-known figure nothing would have happened as would just be a guy spouting things, not someone who influences the opinions of hundreds of thousands.

[gtownspur]

Matt and Trey on South Park deliberately portray those stereotypes to make a point, every episode is a mockery of what they think is moral and immoral and how the world thinks.

Imus, being on the radio with many listers, unfortunately has a position of power and influence, and you aren't going to get away saying things like that when you have so much pull in how people think. If he was an obscure little-known figure nothing would have happened as would just be a guy spouting things, not someone who influences the opinions of hundreds of thousands.

Does Imus have pull on you?

[ChumpDumper]

Imus was a dumbass. His statement didn't even approach the satire of the shows you mentioned -- it was just a straight out insult. Firing him might have been an overreaction, but he should have known better.

[xrayzebra]

Well, everyone just get ready. We will have thought police
shortly. Jackson and Sharpton have already position themselves
to be the arbitrators of what will be acceptable on the airways,
and the politicians, in no way, can pass up this golden opportunity
to show their superior knowledge of what is correct and what
isn't. Live the happy life.

[Extra Stout]

This whole incident left me cynical. I'm under no illusion that there is going to be some kind of crackdown on inappropriate racial and sexual humor in the media. This just gave some people in power an opportunity to give the illusion they care about race issues, and gave Jackson and Sharpton an opportunity to show what can happen when people don't give into their extortion schemes.

[Guru of Nothing]

This whole incident left me cynical. I'm under no illusion that there is going to be some kind of crackdown on inappropriate racial and sexual humor in the media. This just gave some people in power an opportunity to give the illusion they care about race issues, and gave Jackson and Sharpton an opportunity to show what can happen when people don't give into their extortion schemes.

It all seem scripted.

It's not unreasonable to think Imus was ready to retire anyway. ... maybe he collected a few extra bills on the way out.

[01Snake]

COWARDS KICK AWAY ANOTHER PIECE OF AMERICA'S SOUL
By KINKY FRIEDMAN


April 15, 2007 -- Author, musician and former Texas gubernatorial candidate Kinky Friedman has been friends with Don Imus since 1975, when they met on stage at The Bottom Line.

I MET Imus on the gangplank of Noah's Ark. He was then and remains today a truth-seeking missile with the best bull-meter in the business.

Far from being a bully, he was a spiritual chop-buster never afraid to go after the big guys with nothing but the slingshot of ragged integrity. I watched him over the years as he struggled with his demons and conquered them. This was not surprising to me.

Imus came from the Great Southwest, where the men are men and the emus are nervous. And he did it all with something that seems, indeed, to be a rather scarce commodity these days. A sense of humor.

There's no excusing Imus' recent ridiculous remark, but there's something not kosher in America when one guy gets a Grammy and one gets fired for the same line.

The Matt Lauers and Al Rokers of this world live by the cue-card and die by the cue-card; Imus is a rare bird, indeed - he works without a net. When you work without a net as long as Imus has, sometimes you make mistakes.

Wavy Gravy says he salutes mistakes. They're what makes us human, he claims. And humanity beyond doubt, is what appears to be missing from this equation. If we've lost the ability to laugh at ourselves, to laugh at each other, to laugh together, then the PC world has succeeded in diminishing us all.

Political correctness, a term first used by Joseph Stalin, has trivialized, sanitized and homogenized America, transforming us into a nation of chain establishments and chain people.

Take heart, Imus. You're merely joining a long and legendary laundry list of individuals who were summarily sacrificed in the name of society's sanctimonious soul: Socrates, Jesus, Galileo, Joan of Arc, Mozart and Mark Twain, who was decried as a racist until the day he died for using the N-word rather prolifically in "Huckleberry Finn."

Speaking of which, there will always be plenty of Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons around. There will be plenty of cowardly executives, plenty of fair-weather friends, and plenty of Jehovah's Bystanders, people who believe in God but just don't want to get involved. In this crowd, it could be argued that we need a Don Imus just to wake us up once in a while.

There probably isn't a single one of Imus' vocal critics who come anywhere close to matching his record of philanthropy or good acts on this earth.

Judge a man by the size of his enemies, my father used to say. A man who, year after year, has raised countless millions of dollars and has fought hand-to-hand to combat against childhood cancer, autism, and SIDS - well, you've got a rodeo clown who not only rescues the cowboy, but saves the children as well.

I believe New York will miss its crazy cowboy and America will miss the voice of a free-thinking independent-minded, rugged individualist. I believe MSNBC will lose many viewers and CBS radio many listeners.

Too bad for them. That's what happens when you get rid of the only guy you've got who knows how to ride, shoot straight and tell the truth.

[Kermit]

Take heart, Imus. You're merely joining a long and legendary laundry list of individuals who were summarily sacrificed in the name of society's sanctimonious soul: Socrates, Jesus, Galileo, Joan of Arc, Mozart and Mark Twain, who was decried as a racist until the day he died for using the N-word rather prolifically in "Huckleberry Finn."

yes. let us put "holy" don imus in the same category as jesus and socrates.

Imus chapter 2, verse 21: and don said, "let there be the nappiest headed of ho's to wander the earth and toss yea balls into yonder basket." and it was so.

[scott]

1 had advertisers who didn't want to be associated with such comments... the other has advertisers who chose to specifically be associated with such a show. Is it really that difficult to figure out?

[The_Worlds_finest]

The way you interperate the "jokes" on the cartoons is all subjective... once again it is what it is.

[smeagol]

Imus is evil (for some) not because of what he said (which was a stupid, meanspirited comment) but for what he belives in.

cough * boutons * cough

cough, cough * pimpo * cough, cough

[xrayzebra]

And then you have:


Music lyrics take spotlight following Imus controversy

April 13, 2007 11:18 PM

ORANGEBURG, SC (WIS) - If people found radio host Don Imus' comments about the Rutger's women's basketball team offensive, why are people at South Carolina State University lining up to hear similar words from rap artists?

In one song from a performer at Friday's concert, the n-word is used more than 100 times.

It's images and sounds like those that have Reverend Deforest B. Soaries on a mission to stamp it out. "We have been aware of the recurring theme that can best be described as a double standard. We have been frustrated for years that the culture has produced language that has degraded women and there are certain segments of the culture that seem to do it more than others."

The Reverend Al Sharpton, talking about Imus and other entertainers, says it's time to show the media and the public that it is not necessary to be misogynist and racist to be creative or to be commercial in this country.

WIS asked students at on campus about the concert and the lyrics. One student, Kendra Johnson, says, "The radio host was out of line when he said it. Some rap artists may be out of line, but they don't mean no harm."

Student Justin Miller says, "There's always a time and place for everything. With hip hop music that's a certain situation where those remarks can be used, but on public radio station pointed to a particular group it's not proper."

One of the performers at the concert was Crime Mob. Their video, "Rock Yo Hips" is set on a fictional campus, Crime Mob university. That's where they depict women as strippers saying, "After she dance on that pole, I pull my cash so quick and fast."

Students tell us, "It's just music. It's all how you take it."

The controversial group is performing during Bulldogfest, a weekend designed to celebrate school spirit and recruit new students.

Student Body President Deven Anderson says, "Being they are a performing artist group they're merely here to entertain us. That's nothing serious in content, they're here to entertain."

In less than two weeks the rap will be replaced with debate. SC State University is hosting the first Democratic presidential debate.

Anderson says, "I think it represents the culture they have here at the university. We have students that are urban and we have students that are political figures who like politics, so I think it represents our variety of students at the university."

Reported by Angie Goff & Maggie Alexander

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Hosting a dimm-o-crap debate, strange, and the dimms wont
go on Fox. What's wrong with this picture.....

[smeagol]

WIS asked students at on campus about the concert and the lyrics. One student, Kendra Johnson, says, "The radio host was out of line when he said it. Some rap artists may be out of line, but they don't mean no harm."
They become rich with their music which is filled with racism and hate.

[mikejones99]

Southpark people are better entertainers and smarter than Imus show but anyone should be able to say anything. Rappers don't hate, they just don't want to pay the hos.