Spurs @ Mavericks Game Thread

[aaronstampler]

Complete fucking bullshit game. Mavs had like six guys playing more mins than Duncan in a so called meaningless game.

[dbreiden83080]

Breen just said this was an impressive come from behind win for the Mavs. I am literally shaking with laughter at that one. Yeah Tim does not play the whole 4th qtr, the Mavs barely win and he calls that impressive, what a fucking idiot.

[ducks]

spurs played hard and almost beat the mavs and duncan did not play at all in the fourth

if you are a mavs fan you can not be thrilled with just a 5 point win

[Chris Childs]

Breen just said this was an impressive come from behind win for the Mavs. I am literally shaking with laughter at that one. Yeah Tim does not play the whole 4th qtr, the Mavs barely win and he calls that impressive, what a fucking idiot.

U MAD?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

So wait, Ginobili wasn't on the floor on that last possession was he.

[monosylab1k]

the game didn't mean shit to begin with, and it meant even less when Duncan got tossed.

it does piss me off as a Mavs fan that they didn't obliterate the Spurs once Duncan was gone and Dirk came back in.....but I guess that says alot more about how good the Spurs are than anything.

[Texas_Ranger]

Congratulations Mavs. You won just because of that bitch Crawforf.

WE WILL KICK YOUR ASS IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!

[boutons_]

Spurs get 10 pts in the 4th qtr? WTF? they choked.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'm actually more convinced now than I was this morning that the Spurs can win a playoff series against the Mavericks -- assuming, of course, that Joey Crawford's interference will be somewhat muted compared to his efforts today.

[T Park]

Well, we know that if the Spurs have to play the last 15 minutes of a road game against the Mavericks, they're probably going to struggle to win.

Without duncan? Sure

with? Who knows, we weren't able to see :pctoss

[Chris Childs]

66 wins and no title.

[Tippecanoe]

i actually dont feel too bad about this game. for some reason, i have this hunch that if duncan wasnt ejected, spurs woulda won

[aaronstampler]

We are not good enough to beat these guys in their building playing 5 on 8.

[Pugglekicker_21]

this game sucked donkey balls...joey crawford needs to be hit by a fucking bus.


It wasnt just the loss of Duncan. Turnovers by a Tony Parker sleepwalking through out the whole game and mentally planning his damn wedding with Eva cost us, as well.

[John Patrick]

MAVS WIN MAVS WIN

:downspin: :elephant :downspin:

gg SpurFans




wont be saying that in June..

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I'm glad to see Manu do that last minute turnover. He's getting them all out of his system when they don't matter. Now all we have left are the pluses. :elephant :elephant :elephant

[bdictjames]

Why did Duncan get t'd up the second time?

[boutons_]

Spurs live/die by the 3G, and went 2 of 13 today.

[Tippecanoe]

So wait, Ginobili wasn't on the floor on that last possession was he.

he was

[ShoogarBear]

Boy, Parker really fucked up those last two possessions.

[v2freak]

Um, did the game just fade out for anyone else? Mine transitioned into commercials and then the news right after a Spur inbounded the ball

[T Park]

:lol

Duncan plays, Spurs win.

end of story.


Lots of positives to take.

Elson played his role well, and POP LEFT HIM IN!!!

But taking Ginobili out at the end was mind baffling, but, who the fuck cares now.


Barry?

Performed like me and others thought he would in a pressure game.

1/6

:clap STUD :rolleyes

[Borosai]

The most disappointing thing for me were the turnovers. Horrible bone-headed plays. That won't cut it (yeah TP and Gino, you two).

[ATXSPUR]

bullllllllllllllllllllllllllllll shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

[ducks]

Why did Duncan get t'd up the second time?
because crawford got any in a YEAR

[CubanMustGo]

WE WILL KICK YOUR ASS IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!

Except for the games Crawford calls.

Boils down to this: SA didn't execute down the stretch, 4 mins without a basket, too much freelancing by everyone (no, not blaming this on anyone in particular). Spurs do best when there is a lot of ball movement and they didn't have that at the end.

Good for SA staying in it with their best player in the locker room for over a quarter. CU in the playoffs.

[lefty]

Why did Duncan get t'd up the second time?

Cuz Crawford is a fucking moron

[T Park]

Boy, Parker really fucked up those last two possessions.


I thought Ginobili turned it over, and Barry shot a patheticly stupid shot.

:wtf

[dimsah]

Good news. We won on the boards because we only played small about 3 minutes total. Sucked not having Tim though.
By the way, what's 36 - 26?

[Amarelooms]

I'm actually more convinced now than I was this morning that the Spurs can win a playoff series against the Mavericks -- assuming, of course, that Joey Crawford's interference will be somewhat muted compared to his efforts today.

Glad you are convinced....don;t think the Spurs are. Trust me if the Mavs get to the WCF they want to face the Spurs :elephant

[dbreiden83080]

Why did Duncan get t'd up the second time?

He had the nerve to laugh at a call made by Bitch Crawford and i guess his ego made it so he had to toss Timmy.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

he was
oh ok, heh Barry's shot was ANTI CLUTCH , it was terrible :lol that was Kobe on a bad day shot.

This is probably the only regular season loss I'm immune to being pissed off about :elephant :elephant :elephant

[Pugglekicker_21]

Why did Duncan get t'd up the second time?


This

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

then :clap on the bench..


the some more :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[T Park]

The Spurs won the rebounding battle.

Come on, thats a huge brightspot!!!

[CubanMustGo]

Bullcrap AP story:


DALLAS (AP) -- There's no such thing as a meaningless game when the Dallas Mavericks and San Antonio Spurs play.

Although their meeting Sunday had little bearing on the playoff picture, the Western Conference powers played a tense, emotional game that saw bodies flying, emotions overheating, Tim Duncan getting ejected and the Mavericks beating the Spurs 91-86 Sunday to end San Antonio's six-game winning streak.

The loss -- only the second in the Spurs' past 14 games -- locks them into the No. 3 seed in the Western Conference. They have only themselves to blame, going without a field goal the last 6:32, missing nine straight shots, and not scoring any points over the last 4:17.

Dirk Nowitzki and Devin Harris each scored 21 points in a game the Mavericks may have used as their dress rehearsal for the playoffs. They won for the 66th time this season, tying the 1970-71 Milwaukee Bucks for ninth-best in league history, and finished 36-5 at home.

Gee it would have been nice if whatever idiot wrote that story had observed that Tim was on the bench laughing when he got the second T.

[twincam]

If you think about it. They (Spurs) seemed to have had an anxiety attack in the last 4:00 minutes of the game. Their shooting was horrifiic. Nobody had that confident stroke. Then you have the infamous Gino turnover, terrible time management on Barry followed with the shot from hell.

To summarize: When you have an all-star point guard,,,,HE is supposed to take control of the ball, penetrate, and dish out to the open man. However, Pop decided to give that detail to Manu...whom we all know will do his behind that back dribble and try to get away from a double team. This is not rocket science when you know Manu. The Mavs caught his game and literially ran away with it for their lead, to only leave the Spurs inferior. Once again...the Spurs were in perfect position to seal the win, only to fall flat on their faces with the rare anxiety attack.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

Spurs got this thing. If there's one thing Duncan didn't need it was even more motivation. He'll drop 40 a game on these fools.

[FromWayDowntown]

I also think that the Spurs showed some grit and toughness in hanging in there with their defense when things weren't going well offensively. The Spurs offense stagnated in the 4th, largely because the Mavs could pack the lane. The Spurs did manage to get some good looks, but didn't knock them down. They have to knock those shots down, obviously, to have a chance to win a playoff series, but it should be a bit less problematic with Duncan on the floor. And while I would have liked to have seen the Spurs find some ways to create offense without Duncan, I thought they did a great job of getting back and making things happen defensively by challenging shots, rebounding, and forcing some turnovers.

There are some real positives here, I think.

[ducks]

Boy, Parker really fucked up those last two possessions.

MANU HAD THE TURNOVER AND BARRY SHOT THE FUCKING AIRBALL

[BUMP]

this is classic

bottom of Spurs home page it says

Welcome to our newest member: Joey Crawford

[Crookshanks]

Wow - Parker was our high scorer! Just think how good a game he would've had if his head had been in the game - instead of his "other head" thinking about Eva!

[ducks]

I also think that the Spurs showed some grit and toughness in hanging in there with their defense when things weren't going well offensively. The Spurs offense stagnated in the 4th, largely because the Mavs could pack the lane. The Spurs did manage to get some good looks, but didn't knock them down. They have to knock those shots down, obviously, to have a chance to win a playoff series, but it should be a bit less problematic with Duncan on the floor. And while I would have liked to have seen the Spurs find some ways to create offense without Duncan, I thought they did a great job of getting back and making things happen defensively by challenging shots, rebounding, and forcing some turnovers.

There are some real positives here, I think.


YEAH i WAS IMPRESSED SPURS ARE NOT USED TO PLAYING A TOUGH TEAM WITHOUT DUNCAN IN 4

[Bandwagon Bill]

All I demand as a fan in any game in any sport are two things:

1) The players and coaches work as hard as they can to win
2) The game is fairly officiated and played on a level playing field

For some reason the NBA has completely dropped the ball in #2. As fans we should collectively demand better before spending a dollar on this entertainment.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I thought Ginobili turned it over, and Barry shot a patheticly stupid shot.

:wtf
Both Parker and Ginobili got it handed to them on the defensive end. I think it's good. We kind of showed a little bit of our cards with elson, and they did in using Buckner and whoever on Ginobili and Parker in stuff. Ginobili and Parker are gonna be more focused if we're lucky enough to meet these guys next month...so their turnovers didn't bother me.

[Slinkyman]

Good news is now we can rest the big 3 the next 2 games and have them ready for denver, bad news for mavs GS just took the 8 seed. :)

[T Park]

Wow - Parker was our high scorer! Just think how good a game he would've had if his head had been in the game - instead of his "other head" thinking about Eva!

christ

who let the middle schoolers in.

[ThomasGranger]

Wonder if Avery is going to limit his starters to 26 min. against the Warriors on Tuesday.

[dbreiden83080]

Spurs got this thing. If there's one thing Duncan didn't need it was even more motivation. He'll drop 40 a game on these fools.

This was by no means a confidence booster for the MAvs to barely beat the Spurs with Tim gone for the whole 4th qtr.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

I thought Ginobili turned it over, and Barry shot a patheticly stupid shot.

:wtf

Barry should be shot.

Laughing Technical? WHAT THE FUCK! :madrun

[FromWayDowntown]

Boils down to this: SA didn't execute down the stretch, 4 mins without a basket, too much freelancing by everyone (no, not blaming this on anyone in particular). Spurs do best when there is a lot of ball movement and they didn't have that at the end.

To be fair, I don't think Pop was about to open up the playbook down the stretch of THAT game in an effort to create offense. I think, from a strategic standpoint, the willingness to allow freelancing was mostly a matter of context.

[T Park]

Winning the rebounding battle.

Playing good defense?

Damn, could the Spurs be back!?!?! :spin

It honestly is a shame duncan wasn't there.

him down low against Diop or Dirk, and then being able to kick out would've been a true test.

Shucks.

[dallaskd]

wtf?!?!hat kind of shot was that Barry? you had 5 seconds. :lol :lol

[td4mvp21]

That was a good game. Too bad Joey Crawford had to ruin it. If it weren't for that, the Spurs would have definitely won IMO. The Mavericks barely beat our team without Duncan. I think we will do fine against them if we play them in the playoffs. However, this game was just another exciting regular season game-nothing more or nothing less. It doesn't provide much insight to what will happen should we play them in the playoffs. If anything, this should give the Spurs confidence knowing that they barely lost to the Mavs w/o Duncan. This game, even though it had one of the most FUCKING ridiculous calls I have ever seen, will not even matter to us in a couple of days, especially come Saturday. This game does give me more confidence when the Spurs face the Mavs- we fucking outrebounded them with Duncan out for the entire fourth quarter! That's a good accomplishment. We also played excellent defense, as did they. We were playing excellent all the way until the fourth. We had more blocks then them. We held them to 3-11 3FG (they held us to 2-13, also good defense on their part). With that said, this game should only motivate the Spurs. They looked pissed as hell to me. Finley, Parker, Duncan, Ginobili-they all looked pissed, as they should have been. Duncan's going to be great if we have a rematch with the Mavs, I can tell you that :lol. Oh, unless he breathes too loud and Crawford decides to T him up twice for it! :lol But seriously, good game. It reminded me of the playoffs from last year and only reassured me that a future matchup would be even better.


Oh, and fuck Joey Crawford.

[ShoogarBear]

I thought Ginobili turned it over, and Barry shot a patheticly stupid shot.

:wtfThink blue, T Park, think blue.

[Crookshanks]

I don't understand why Bonner didn't play. He's been playing pretty good the last few games - he could've helped in the middle with Tim gone.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Glad you are convinced....don;t think the Spurs are. Trust me if the Mavs get to the WCF they want to face the Spurs :elephant

Whatever. The Mavs homer radio announcers at the half were in a panic over GS looking good and a probable eight seed today :lol


The Spurs won the rebounding battle.

Come on, thats a huge brightspot!!!

Do you even understand why that happened? It's because Pop went away from small ball (you know, the shit we constantly criticize Pop about, and the shit you constantly defend him for).

Spurs win in Dallas in November, Elson played 26 minutes.
Spurs loss in SA, Elson played 6 minutes.
He was out injured for the 3rd game.

Tonight we almost pull this out with no Duncan but Elson playing 33 minutes.

There's a trend there for those with the mental capacity for it.

[BUMP]

Duncan plays, Spurs win.

end of story.




Spurs beat the Mavs? isnt that an oxymoron? just like in the playoffs last year, oh wait a second.....

beating the Spurs; so easy a caveman can do it

[aaronstampler]

This game was bullshit. We hung on for as long as we could, but we can't beat these guys without the best player in the league (that's right, I said it) not playing the whole 4th quarter.

Manu, Barry and Tony all had rough moments there in the end, but the team hung on defensively as long as it could. Really's Dallas point total of 91 is pathetic considering how many transition and fast break baskets we gave them. In half court we were incredible defensively, I thought.

I was disappointed Pop went to smallball again for no reason in the second half. Horry played well in the first half and Bonner's been great the last few games. I don't know why he does these things. I think both Elson and Oberto played well overall.

Talent wise I'm very confident we can take these guys, but it's a very disturbing trend that the refs keep on dicking us in this building. It's not "young guys getting intimidated by Cuban" like Sam Smith says. Bevetta isn't young. Salvatore isn't young.

Joey fucking Crawford isn't young.

Are we going to get a fair whistle against these guys or not? I'm sick and tired of Pop and our FO never saying anything about the refs and getting no credit for it against Dallas.

[td4mvp21]

Spurs beat the Mavs? isnt that an oxymoron? just like in the playoffs last year, oh wait a second.....

beating the Spurs; so easy a caveman can do it

:lol I'm sorry, but now is probably the worst time you could talk shit after your team barely beat a Duncan-less Spurs.

Oh, and no it's not an oxymoron considering we've beaten the Mavs plenty over the last 10 years or so.

[td4mvp21]

Are we going to get a fair whistle against these guys or not? I'm sick and tired of Pop and our FO never saying anything about the refs and getting no credit for it against Dallas.

I'm actually proud of them for not opening their mouths. They'd be just as bitchy off the court as every other team in the league. Plus, we had the lead with like 1:30 left-shitty shot selection didn't help. We should have drove more. But you're right, that call was bullshit; however, it had nothing to do with the refs "favoring" the Mavs. It had to do with Crawford being a little bitch.

[ratm1221]

This was by no means a confidence booster for the MAvs to barely beat the Spurs with Tim gone for the whole 4th qtr.

I disagree. A win is a win in the confidence book. You could tell both teams wanted the win bad and it doesn't matter how it got accomplished. If dirk would have not been in the game and the mavs lost your tune would be alot different. Maybe Tim Duncan will refrain from acting like a child when the playoffs come around. I wish he wouldn't have gotten thrown out but at the same time he shouldn't have been taunting the refs. Especially when he already had 1 tech. It was a good game, so stop the bullshit excuses. Weren't alot of you making a big deal out of that Phoenix game we lost in which we had 2 star players playing on sprained ankles and our starting center out? Fans can always come up with excuses... I'm just glad the players don't, and live up to the outcome of a game.

[T Park]

I was disappointed Pop went to smallball again for no reason in the second half.

he only went for it the last minute and a half...

Oberto and Elson were in the whole time.....

[spursfan09]

Spurs beat the Mavs? isnt that an oxymoron? just like in the playoffs last year, oh wait a second.....

beating the Spurs; so easy a caveman can do it

I sure know that Mavs and choke isn't an oxymoron.

[T Park]

Think blue, T Park, think blue

:lol

Well, I figured you were joining on the bandwagon of Aggie and others with the Bullshit "Parker's 6 turnovers were a big reason"


Yeah he fucked up 6 times, but how many times do the Manu homers say "Well he turns the ball over only cause hes agressive"

WTF, is this another instance of Parker gets shit but Manu gets the pass?

[T Park]

BTW,

if Avery is gonna play buckner that much in the playoffs, then yahoo for the spurs :clap

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

:lol

Well, I figured you were joining on the bandwagon of Aggie and others with the Bullshit "Parker's 6 turnovers were a big reason"


Yeah he fucked up 6 times, but how many times do the Manu homers say "Well he turns the ball over only cause hes agressive"

WTF, is this another instance of Parker gets shit but Manu gets the pass?

Answer the question Tpark: do you think that 8 second call was the pinnacle of aggression by Tony?

[FromWayDowntown]

I disagree. A win is a win in the confidence book. You could tell both teams wanted the win bad and it doesn't matter how it got accomplished. If dirk would have not been in the game and the mavs lost your tune would be alot different. Maybe Tim Duncan will refrain from acting like a child when the playoffs come around. I wish he wouldn't have gotten thrown out but at the same time he shouldn't have been taunting the refs. Especially when he already had 1 tech. It was a good game, so stop the bullshit excuses. Weren't alot of you making a big deal out of that Phoenix game we lost in which we had 2 star players playing on sprained ankles and our starting center out? Fans can always come up with excuses... I'm just glad the players don't, and live up to the outcome of a game.

If you don't think that the Spurs gained some confidence by the events today in Dallas, I think you're pretty myopic. The Spurs were able to do a number of very positive things for themselves, given the historical matchup between these teams; things that will bode well for them if they are repeated in a playoff matchup. They didn't have enough offense without Duncan to finish the game out; but it took all that the Mavs had to come up with enough offense to overcome the Spurs as well. All of that, I think, is more positive for the Spurs than for the Mavericks.

As for Duncan, perhaps his behavior was questionable. But so, too, is the behavior of an official who chooses (affirmatively) to assess two technicals to a player in that circumstance. Tim wasn't taunting anyone -- he was reacting in the same way that many players react in similar circumstances. Somehow, Joey Crawford decided that today was his day to get pissy about a player being upset with the way he calls the game. It's too bad for the fans, because Crawford's personal proclivities deprived all of us of a great game.

[v2freak]

I disagree. A win is a win in the confidence book. You could tell both teams wanted the win bad and it doesn't matter how it got accomplished. If dirk would have not been in the game and the mavs lost your tune would be alot different. Maybe Tim Duncan will refrain from acting like a child when the playoffs come around. I wish he wouldn't have gotten thrown out but at the same time he shouldn't have been taunting the refs. Especially when he already had 1 tech. It was a good game, so stop the bullshit excuses. Weren't alot of you making a big deal out of that Phoenix game we lost in which we had 2 star players playing on sprained ankles and our starting center out? Fans can always come up with excuses... I'm just glad the players don't, and live up to the outcome of a game.

You mean he shouldn't have been "taunting" Joey Crawford. News Flash: only you and Mr. Clean actually give a fuck

[aaronstampler]

he only went for it the last minute and a half...

Oberto and Elson were in the whole time.....


Well according to Mr. Boxscore, we played it for nine minutes in the second half.

Elson 33 min + Duncan 27 + Oberto 17 + Horry 10 = 87.

That means 9 minutes of small ball. And I know we didn't play it at all in the first half.

[T Park]

Answer the question Tpark: do you think that 8 second call was the pinnacle of aggression by Tony?

Nope.

Do you think manu taking jumpers all day was the pinnacle agression by your butt buddy Ginobili?

[leemajors]

I disagree. A win is a win in the confidence book. You could tell both teams wanted the win bad and it doesn't matter how it got accomplished. If dirk would have not been in the game and the mavs lost your tune would be alot different. Maybe Tim Duncan will refrain from acting like a child when the playoffs come around. I wish he wouldn't have gotten thrown out but at the same time he shouldn't have been taunting the refs. Especially when he already had 1 tech. It was a good game, so stop the bullshit excuses. Weren't alot of you making a big deal out of that Phoenix game we lost in which we had 2 star players playing on sprained ankles and our starting center out? Fans can always come up with excuses... I'm just glad the players don't, and live up to the outcome of a game.

i can't believe duncan laughed and put that towel over his face. horry should have been ejected too, he was laughing just as hard as duncan.

[T Park]

Well according to Mr. Boxscore, we played it for nine minutes in the second half.

Elson 33 min + Duncan 27 + Oberto 17 + Horry 10 = 87.



all of Elson and Oberto's minutes were near the end of the third and all of the 4th.


I watched the game live, and saw that Oberto and elson played the whole 4th.


But go back to your manu ginobili blow up doll.

[aaronstampler]

Manu's one turnover was bad, because of the timing, but it's no bigger or worse than Tony's six. That's like saying a loss in April hurts in the standings more than a loss in December.

[BUMP]

Fans can always come up with excuses... I'm just glad the players don't, and live up to the outcome of a game.

yeah i agree. these Spur fans are embarassing their team.

[aaronstampler]

all of Elson and Oberto's minutes were near the end of the third and all of the 4th.


I watched the game live, and saw that Oberto and elson played the whole 4th.


But go back to your manu ginobili blow up doll.


Bullshit you watched it live. You were constantly asking questions as to what was going on.

[T Park]

On espn gamecast.

Ive said this a million times.

You missed a spot on manu's crotch there aaron, go slurp it up.

[carina_gino20]

Maybe Tim Duncan will refrain from acting like a child when the playoffs come around. I wish he wouldn't have gotten thrown out but at the same time he shouldn't have been taunting the refs. Especially when he already had 1 tech.

so laughing = taunting? he wasn't even looking at Crawford. He and Rob were just sharing a good laugh (so maybe Rob should also have gotten a T in your book).

[aaronstampler]

On espn gamecast.

Ive said this a million times.

You missed a spot on manu's crotch there aaron, go slurp it up.


They played with both Oberto and Elson from 8:41 to go until 2:53 to go.
That means six minutes of big, six minutes of small.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=270415006&period=4

Go read it.

And I love how you are insinuating that both me and the Spurs SG are gay. Very mature as always. I will not be lectured to by a fucking carney.

[GOMAVSGO]

.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Nope.

Do you think manu taking jumpers all day was the pinnacle agression by your butt buddy Ginobili?

Seeings you like sucking Parker's dick these days and trashing anyone who says anything positive about Manu, I'd love to hear your explanation of how Manu was my 'butt buddy' while going 6-13 (that's a hair under 50% shooting) with one turnover but your boy Tony was the player of the day while going 9-21 (40ish %) with six turnovers including a dumbass eight second backcourt call.

Seriously, can't wait to hear it.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

oh great, not another Manu fans vs. Tony homers debate.


Though Tpark doesn't have much of a case other than Manu's TO, but that time he didn't fuck up so much. it was just better D.


I didn't see Tony's 8 second violation... but oh well.

[T Park]

Seeings you like sucking Parker's dick these days and trashing anyone who says anything positive about Manu, I'd love to hear your explanation of how Manu was my 'butt buddy' while going 6-13 (that's a hair under 50% shooting) with one turnover but your boy Tony was the player of the day while going 9-21 (40ish %) with six turnovers including a dumbass eight second backcourt call.

Seriously, can't wait to hear it.


No where did I say Tony was the player of the game.

Link to where I said "Tony was the player of the game today"

You won't find one cause as usual you're pulling shit from your ass.


Second, Ginobili's turnover was the possession after they tie it up, time out is called, and he runs into a double team?

WTF, if Parker did that you would've started a goddamn thread over that.

Seecond, his unagression taking jumper after jumper after jumper, is part what i blame on him as well.


Parker's unagression hurt as well no question.


All i've asked for is some fucking equal blame, not everything on parker.

[carina_gino20]

On espn gamecast.

Ive said this a million times.

You missed a spot on manu's crotch there aaron, go slurp it up.

you can rag on manu all you want but you can't expect others to do the same.

go make a rant thread about his turnover if you want then.

[T Park]

great, not another Manu fans vs. Tony homers debate.


Though Tpark doesn't have much of a case other than Manu's TO, but that time he didn't fuck up so much. it was just better D.


I didn't see Tony's 8 second violation... but oh well.

im honestly a homer of neither.

Im just sick of parker getting the blame for every fucking thing and Ginobili getting a pass.

When Ginobili does the same shit as parker nary a word is heard

Wen parker does it, BAM, look at all the shit.

Equality in blame is ALL i ask for.

[T Park]

you can rag on manu all you want but you can't expect others to do the same.



I dont even WANT to rag on manu.

Fuck i said when i saw barry in for manu WTF POP have MANU shoot the three!!

Manu is the clutchest guy on this team no doubt.

Im just sick of when they lose and both parker and Manu have bad games, that Parker is the one that takes all the shit.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

No where did I say Tony was the player of the game.

Link to where I said "Tony was the player of the game today"

You won't find one cause as usual you're pulling shit from your ass.


Second, Ginobili's turnover was the possession after they tie it up, time out is called, and he runs into a double team?

WTF, if Parker did that you would've started a goddamn thread over that.

Seecond, his unagression taking jumper after jumper after jumper, is part what i blame on him as well.


Parker's unagression hurt as well no question.


All i've asked for is some fucking equal blame, not everything on parker.


What is this??? you can't guilt the forum's attitude. If people aren't taking it upon themselves to call out Manu for one turnover. Then so be it. Suck it up. You're exaggerating the Tony hate, and acting a bit sensitive about it every game blog. I've seen a lot of support for both guy's efforts today.

This isn't politics where both Manu and Tony have to have equal T.V./criticisms time.

[T Park]

And I love how you are insinuating that both me and the Spurs SG are gay. Very mature as always. I will not be lectured to by a fucking carney.

Hate on parker like you do, and hug ginobili's jock and you'll get that.

Yeah the "lectured by a carney" is real adult there chief.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

No where did I say Tony was the player of the game.

Link to where I said "Tony was the player of the game today"

You won't find one cause as usual you're pulling shit from your ass.


Second, Ginobili's turnover was the possession after they tie it up, time out is called, and he runs into a double team?

Howard left his man on the wing and came down onto Manu. It was a great defensive play. Fuck. Yeah, the timing sucked, but it was great D.



WTF, if Parker did that you would've started a goddamn thread over that.


I didn't say a damn thing about the first five turnovers Tony had where he just flat out nonchalant with the ball, but the eight second thing really pissed me off. There's no excuse for that. NONE.

[T Park]

What is this??? you can't guilt the forum's attitude. If people aren't taking it upon themselves to call out Manu for one turnover. Then so be it. Suck it up. You're exaggerating the Tony hate, and acting a bit sensitive about it every game blog. I've seen a lot of support for both guy's efforts today.

This isn't politics where both Manu and Tony have to have equal T.V./criticisms time.

exaggerating the hate?

WTF?

Did you read this blog?

Every five minutes aaron is ripping on fucking Parker!!!


I don't want ANYONE TO CALL OUT MANU FOR HIS TURNVOER!!!

If it was a fuckup i can live with it, but to rip on tony for him doing the same thing but not manu is ludicrous PERIOD.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Hate on parker like you do, and hug ginobili's jock and you'll get that.

Yeah the "lectured by a carney" is real adult there chief.

For us to win Tony needs to play well. But for every great play he had today, he had an eight second call or dribbling around for 20 seconds before trying to drive it to the rack on Diop and Dirk to negate it.

[T Park]

Howard left his man on the wing and came down onto Manu. It was a great defensive play. Fuck. Yeah, the timing sucked, but it was great D.


No problem.

I can agree with that, and be cool with it.



I didn't say a damn thing about the first five turnovers Tony had where he just flat out nonchalant with the ball, but the eight second thing really pissed me off. There's no excuse for that. NONE.


Theres no excuse for turning over the ball in the last minute of a tie game.


Once again, why can't it be equal blame?

[carina_gino20]

exaggerating the hate?

WTF?

Did you read this blog?

Every five minutes aaron is ripping on fucking Parker!!!


I don't want ANYONE TO CALL OUT MANU FOR HIS TURNVOER!!!

If it was a fuckup i can live with it, but to rip on tony for him doing the same thing but not manu is ludicrous PERIOD.

you're pretty much contradicting yourself there. You could always start a thread though to restore the balance.

[T Park]

For us to win Tony needs to play well. But for every great play he had today, he had an eight second call or dribbling around for 20 seconds before trying to drive it to the rack on Diop and Dirk to negate it.

If that was the case, then he deserves blame for that, I agree.

[carina_gino20]

exaggerating the hate?

WTF?

Did you read this blog?

Every five minutes aaron is ripping on fucking Parker!!!


I don't want ANYONE TO CALL OUT MANU FOR HIS TURNVOER!!!

If it was a fuckup i can live with it, but to rip on tony for him doing the same thing but not manu is ludicrous PERIOD.

you're pretty much contradicting yourself there.

You could always start a thread though to restore the balance, since, as you say, no one else is doing it.

[T Park]

you're pretty much contradicting yourself there. You could always start a thread though to restore the balance.

i apologize i should clarify.

If your gonna call out parker for horrible turnovers, then ginobili should be as well.


If we chock up parker and ginobili's turnovers to fuckups and thats that, no problemo.

[SpursFanFirst]

I don't know about you but I feel great about this game.

I actually do too...I mean, the whole Duncan ejection deal sucked...but the rest of it? I feel good too. Go Spurs!

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

No problem.

I can agree with that, and be cool with it.





Theres no excuse for turning over the ball in the last minute of a tie game.


Once again, why can't it be equal blame?
I saw some posts getting pissed off over Manu's Turnover.



I don't want ANYONE TO CALL OUT MANU FOR HIS TURNVOER!!!

If it was a fuckup i can live with it, but to rip on tony for him doing the same thing but not manu is ludicrous PERIOD. Alright, I can kindaa see where you're coming from...

but I don't know, complaining about it, while dragging Manu into it, only keeps them coming at Tony on the blog and board sometimes. I thought Tony was doing more good than bad in the third quarter for us.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

i apologize i should clarify.

If your gonna call out parker for horrible turnovers, then ginobili should be as well.


If we chock up parker and ginobili's turnovers to fuckups and thats that, no problemo.
Yeah, it sucks. But in this case, Tony did have more turnovers than Manu throughout the game, so wouldn't there have been more posts commenting on them?

In the past it's been unfair, but from that perspective, seems to make sense that the ratio wouldn't be equal right? I'd actually throw out considering Aaron's posts as being responsible. You should know better he doesn't count in terms of the contributing to the "Tony Hate" on the blogs. :lol (No offense aaron, but I could imagine you weren't pleased with Tony's decisions today)

[aaronstampler]

im honestly a homer of neither.

Im just sick of parker getting the blame for every fucking thing and Ginobili getting a pass.

When Ginobili does the same shit as parker nary a word is heard

Wen parker does it, BAM, look at all the shit.

Equality in blame is ALL i ask for.


You ragged on Manu all game even though until the last minute he played pretty well. You bitched when he got his shot blocked and you complained that he played bad defense today when he clearly did not. I don't really know how he's supposed to play Stack or Dirk any better than he did. Until the last minute, Manu was having at worst a "B" game.

Seriously, who on the Spurs played better today? Maybe Elson? Duncan before he got ejected? Who? Give me a name.

They don't deserve equality in blame because they didn't play equally well. TP had six turnovers and forced easily a half dozen shots he shouldn't have.

And it'd be one thing if you just had a blind spot for the Manu/Tony thing, but you constantly pull shit out of your ass without backing it up.

Pop played small for half the 4th quarter, including the last 3 minutes. Elson and Oberto weren't "out there the whole time."

Barry did play well in Game 7 vs. Detroit. He spaced the floor and settled down Tony who was nervous as shit for the first six minutes or so. (He was 22 years old, so it's understandable). He showed good leadership in that game and was a big reason we won. Pop woudn't have played him big minutes that day if he was playing poorly. Give him some credit.


Your problem is that you can't accept that Manu is a better player than Tony despite a billion different ways people have tried to prove it to you. Tony will get more blame because he makes more mistakes. Simple as that. Also, the ball is always in his hands. Tim will get less criticized than anyone, then Manu, then Tony and so on. If Beno played equal minutes as Tony, Beno would get dumped on 20 times more than Tony.

[SpursFanFirst]

this is classic

bottom of Spurs home page it says

Welcome to our newest member: Joey Crawford

???

[T Park]

Your problem is that you can't accept that Manu is a better player than Tony despite a billion different ways people have tried to prove it to you.

Uh, i never said other wise.

But your 5 page diatribe just proves my point of the manu homer in you coming out, and that you hate tony.

Its ok. most manu homers do.

Glad you've finally come to grips with it.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Nice civil post but...

If Beno played equal minutes as Tony, Beno would get dumped on 20 times more than Tony.
I think you could have picked anyone else on the SPURS because Beno's uber-efficient at fucking up with limited minutes.

[aaronstampler]

Uh, i never said other wise.

But your 5 page diatribe just proves my point of the manu homer in you coming out, and that you hate tony.

Its ok. most manu homers do.

Glad you've finally come to grips with it.


What is it with you and the word hate? Can't you say "dislike" or "distrust" or "aren't a fan of?"

It's like you literally cannot come up with another word to state a negative feeling.

www.dictionary.com. Use it. Learn it. Love it.

[aaronstampler]

Uh, i never said other wise.

But your 5 page diatribe just proves my point of the manu homer in you coming out, and that you hate tony.

Its ok. most manu homers do.

Glad you've finally come to grips with it.


By the way, I love how you haven't said a peep about Oberto/Elson playing the whole 4th quarter after I called you out on it. Whenever I call BS on any stupid non-factual post of yours, you'll always go back to the stock answer of "you and your parker hate."

[T Park]

Uh you didnt call me on anything.

Oberto and Elson played the majority of the second half like i said.

I love how you won't say a peep about Ginobili when he does something bad too.

[aaronstampler]

He missed his last two shots and had a turnover against a double team. You need me to point these things out to you?

And you didn't say anything about Oberto and Elson playing "the majority" of the second half. You said we played big for all but a minute in the 4th.

[T Park]

last couple minutes.

Get it right.

I believe you'll notice my notation at the same time.

Finley in for Oberto?

WHY!!!

:pctoss

But don't let that get in the way of your agenda.

[aaronstampler]

Six minutes big, six minutes small.

[mikejones99]

FUCKING cunt, oh well in the long term things will be good. San Antonio

[LEONARD]

#1 thing I've learned from SpursTalk...

Spurs fans don't complain about officiating... :fro