Skip on Cold Pizza ref Crawford

[veruca]

Skip was discussing the J Crawford fiasco and he thought Crawford was totally out of line and should have at least given TD a warning. He thought it was one of the worst ejections he'd ever seen. He mentioned a player of TD's stature deserved more respect.

They also mentioned to send comments regarding JC on their website at: www.coldpizza.tv. I sent mine!

[Mr. Body]

I thought Cold Pizza was cancelled?

[LEONARD]

He mentioned a player of TD's stature deserved more respect.

A player of Duncan's experience and composure should know that you can't stare down a ref and then laugh while staring at him, especially AFTER he just T'd you up for whining from the bench. Can't show up the refs...

There has to be an OWNED Gif of this floating around of Tim's bugeyes after the 2nd tech... :lol

[George Gervin's Afro]

A player of Duncan's experience and composure should know that you can't stare down a ref and then laugh while staring at him, especially AFTER he just T'd you up for whining from the bench. Can't show up the refs...

There has to be an OWNED Gif of this floating around of Tim's bugeyes after the 2nd tech... :lol



Only if they T up Dork when he wags his tounge after he makes a basket..

[hater]

A player of Duncan's experience and composure should know that you can't stare down a ref and then laugh while staring at him, especially AFTER he just T'd you up for whining from the bench. Can't show up the refs...

There has to be an OWNED Gif of this floating around of Tim's bugeyes after the 2nd tech... :lol

you fucking retard. Horry and Parker were clearly laughing at that bald motherfucker who's head looks like a penis.

should they have been ejected too? :bang

and timmy was not even looking at that piece of shit while laughing.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I thought Cold Pizza was cancelled?

Only in our dreams.

[LilMissSPURfect]

A player of Duncan's experience and composure should know that you can't stare down a ref and then laugh while staring at him, especially AFTER he just T'd you up for whining from the bench. Can't show up the refs...

There has to be an OWNED Gif of this floating around of Tim's bugeyes after the 2nd tech... :lol



next time we should get you to stand infront of tim so joey can't make out what's on his mind...... :cooldevil

[LEONARD]

Only if they T up Dork when he wags his tounge after he makes a basket..

That's showing up the refs how?? :hat

[CubanMustGo]

This in from Joey Crawford: takes one to know one.

Shouldn't your alias be jackoffspeed?

[Buddy Holly]

Tim was staring at Crawford as he was laughing?

How fucking blind are you?

[cheguevara]

Looked like a staredown to me...Timmy's eyes didn't move for several seconds before laughing, and during the laugh...

tim was watching the game. How can you conclude he was starring down at the ref. oh wait, you're just talking out of your ass :donkey

[LilMissSPURfect]

Timmy is so dam good now the MAVS want him to play with a blindfold too!

[LEONARD]

tim was watching the game. How can you conclude he was starring down at the ref. oh wait, you're just talking out of your ass :donkey

nm...I was wrong about the staredown during the play...

(edited because people aren't reading the whole thread)

[spursfan09]

I don't remember Tim staring at Crawford while laughing? Did I miss something? Its funny the way Mav fans are just trying to make this ejection justifiable just so they can feel good about thier cheap win.

[Buddy Holly]

Then what was he looking at? If he wasn't staring at Crawford, wouldn't he look at Crawford when the tech was called? His eyes never moved...

Yep, they grow ya'll blind and stupid up there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGeNWwBN5bQ

I wonder how he never moved his eyes when he was moving his body, shaking his head, and covering his face with a towel.

[cheguevara]

Then what was he looking at? If he wasn't staring at Crawford, wouldn't he look at Crawford when the tech was called? His eyes never moved...

you are a pathetic mav fan. looking for excuses to blame Timmy when 99% of fans, not just Spur fans are calling this one of the worst calls in NBA history.

[txmed]

Then what was he looking at? If he wasn't staring at Crawford, wouldn't he look at Crawford when the tech was called? His eyes never moved...

A non-observation like that certainly requires everyone on this board to question the veracity of any future observations you make (say during the Western Conference Finals) and any conclusions you draw from those observations.

Pay a little bit more attention. This wasn't 'Sheed getting that technical for merely staring at the ref (which was ridiculous in and of itself). Tim wasn't even looking at Crawford before the second technical. With the limited footage ABC gives us he's laughing, he puts the towel over his head, the whistle blows, then his eyes flow to Crawford.

[LEONARD]

Yep, they grow ya'll blind and stupid up there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGeNWwBN5bQ

I wonder how he never moved his eyes when he was moving his body, shaking his head, and covering his face with a towel.

I stand corrected...the replay that I recall from yesterday isn't in that clip. Maybe I dreamed it...

However, Duncan laughing was to show up Crawford just the same...

[LEONARD]

A non-observation like that certainly requires everyone on this board to question the veracity of any future observations you make (say during the Western Conference Finals) and any conclusions you draw from those observations.

Pay a little bit more attention. This wasn't 'Sheed getting that technical for merely staring at the ref (which was ridiculous in and of itself). Tim wasn't even looking at Crawford before the second technical.

See above

[LilMissSPURfect]

clueless.....then why not throw out the whole bench for laughing?

[cheguevara]

translated...


I have just been :owned.

I will not wonder why noone on this board will take me seriously in the future.

[Buddy Holly]

However, Duncan laughing was to show up Crawford just the same...

How the hell do you know this? Did Timmy text you on your blackberry?

Notice he starts laughing after Bowen spins. Horry starts laughing at the same time, and you can see Tony start smiling but he doesn't laugh because he has water in his mouth.

[LEONARD]

clueless.....then why not throw out the whole bench for laughing?

maybe because Duncan was already on his $hit-list?? ;)

[Kermit]

clueless.....then why not throw out the whole bench for laughing?
you're asking maverick fans to think. when that glorious day comes years from now, this world will be a better place.

[IX_Equilibrium]

A player of Duncan's experience and composure should know that you can't stare down a ref and then laugh while staring at him, especially AFTER he just T'd you up for whining from the bench. Can't show up the refs...

There has to be an OWNED Gif of this floating around of Tim's bugeyes after the 2nd tech... :lol

Dude, you are delusional this morning!

[LilMissSPURfect]

by golly i think we got a winner!!!! its called a VENDETTA! hard on.......etc.....

[ploto]

You lose credibility when you claim that somehow Tim should get special treatment.

[Findog]

Skip was discussing the J Crawford fiasco and he thought Crawford was totally out of line and should have at least given TD a warning. He thought it was one of the worst ejections he'd ever seen. He mentioned a player of TD's stature deserved more respect.

They also mentioned to send comments regarding JC on their website at: www.coldpizza.tv. I sent mine!

I think the ejection was unwarranted, but you don't want Skip Bayless on your side. Trust me.

[LEONARD]

translated...

Right...I admitted that I was wrong dude... :lol

[LEONARD]

Dude, you are delusional this morning!

Read further in the thread man... ;)

[LilMissSPURfect]

I think the ejection was unwarranted, but you don't want Skip Bayless on your side. Trust me.


SPURS DON'T WANT ANY HELP IN GETTING THEIRS..

[IX_Equilibrium]

Read further in the thread man... ;)

I did.

[Kermit]

You lose credibility when you claim that somehow Tim should get special treatment.
special treatment = not getting thrown out for laughing?

what's the penalty for flatulence?

[SpursWoman]

I stand corrected...the replay that I recall from yesterday isn't in that clip. Maybe I dreamed it...

However, Duncan laughing was to show up Crawford just the same...


He was laughing ... that kind of stuff happens from the bench all of the damn time. Coaches going nuts ... players .... it's not hard to lip-read all of the expletives that occur many, many times a game, every game, from coaches, players and fans.

Duncan got ejected for laughing. No matter how much you try to justify it, it was an unbelievably ridiculous. And challenging him to a fight? WTF was that? You guys don't see anything wrong with that? :lol

Also, any Mav fan ridiculing a Spur or a Spurs fan for complaining or being pissed off at a ref needs to STFU. Seriously. How you can even post that with a straight face I have no idea.

[LEONARD]

I did.

Are you sure? ;)


He was laughing ... that kind of stuff happens from the bench all of the damn time. Coaches going nuts ... players .... it's not hard to lip-read all of the expletives that occur many, many times a game, every game, from coaches, players and fans.

Duncan got ejected for laughing. No matter how much you try to justify it, it was an unbelievably ridiculous. And challenging him to a fight? WTF was that? You guys don't see anything wrong with that? :lol

Also, any Mav fan ridiculing a Spur or a Spurs fan for complaining or being pissed off at a ref needs to STFU. Seriously. How you can even post that with a straight face I have no idea.

because I don't complain about officiating...I learned it here... :fro

and I don't think Crawford meant a physical fight... ;)

[IX_Equilibrium]

Are you sure? ;)




Yes. You are still grasping at straws to try to defend Crawford.

[Ginofan]

He was laughing ... that kind of stuff happens from the bench all of the damn time. Coaches going nuts ... players .... it's not hard to lip-read all of the expletives that occur many, many times a game, every game, from coaches, players and fans.

Duncan got ejected for laughing. No matter how much you try to justify it, it was an unbelievably ridiculous. And challenging him to a fight? WTF was that? You guys don't see anything wrong with that? :lol

Also, any Mav fan ridiculing a Spur or a Spurs fan for complaining or being pissed off at a ref needs to STFU. Seriously. How you can even post that with a straight face I have no idea.


:lol Look who we are dealing with here...

[LilMissSPURfect]

Are you sure? ;)



because I don't complain about officiating...I learned it here... :fro

and I don't think Crawford meant a physical fight... ;)


its ok for the refs and mavs fans to make assumptions about what timmy was thinking and laughing at then ?

[monosylab1k]

Mavs fans, shut the fuck up. Seriously.

You need 3 rings before you can bitch about officiating.

[LEONARD]

Yes. You are still grasping at straws to try to defend Crawford.

I'm not defending Crawford...I'm just not defending Duncan...he was trying to show him up IMO. He was called on it. He's not untouchable...

[Summers]

maybe because Duncan was already on his $hit-list?? ;)

A ref isn't supposed to have a shit list. (Oh, yeah, we're allowed to swear like mother fuckers). That would be having a bias, which just proves our point.

[Kermit]

or common sense. which ever comes first.

[LEONARD]

:lol Look who we are dealing with here...

Who??

[LEONARD]

A ref isn't supposed to have a shit list. (Oh, yeah, we're allowed to swear like mother fuckers). That would be having a bias, which just proves our point.

but it happnes...he was obviously watching Duncan because of whatever he said to get the first tech...

[Ginofan]

Who??


:lol :lol :lol Good freakin' lord....you guys are funny.

[IX_Equilibrium]

and I don't think Crawford meant a physical fight... ;)



its ok for the refs and mavs fans to make assumptions about what timmy was thinking and laughing at then ?


I was just about to say the same thing. Leonard, if you claim to not defend Crawford, then don't make interpretations as to what he meant.

[SpursWoman]

Mavs fans, shut the fuck up. Seriously.

You need 3 rings before you can bitch about officiating.


No, y'all need to shut the fuck up about criticizing Spurs fans for doing it....because it makes you a bunch of hypocrites. *Y'all* and your players do it just as bad, if not worse.

I didn't think my point was so obscure that I had to explain it.

[monosylab1k]

I didn't think my point was so obscure that I had to explain it.

so your point was "y'all can't be hypocrites, but we can"?

[LEONARD]

I was just about to say the same thing. Leonard, if you claim to not defend Crawford, then don't make interpretations as to what he meant.

I think it's a safe assumption that Crawford did NOT want to throw down with Tim...he meant an argument...

[cheguevara]

is it me or are mav fans especially stupid in this thread?

[IX_Equilibrium]

is it me or are mav fans especially stupid in this thread?
The latter

[IX_Equilibrium]

I think it's a safe assumption that Crawford did NOT want to throw down with Tim...he meant an argument...


Ok, I think it's a safe assumption the Duncan was laughing at a joke that Robert Horry told him. I'm glad we both agree that Crawford was totally out of line here.

[Kermit]

I think it's a safe assumption that Crawford did NOT want to throw down with Tim...he meant an argument...
is it? crawford is fucking bat-shit crazy. who knows what he meant. the fact of the matter is, he for all intents and purposes challenged a league mvp to a round of fisticuffs.

[monosylab1k]

is it? crawford is fucking bat-shit crazy. who knows what he meant. the fact of the matter is, he for all intents and purposes challenged a league mvp to a round of fisticuffs.

it's definitely alot more likely that crawford wanted to literally fight duncan. the guy is a madman.

[Obstructed_View]

is it me or are mav fans especially stupid in this thread?
No, not especially.

[Duncanoypi]

You lose credibility when you claim that somehow Tim should get special treatment.

whats with you ploto?is rasho's dick inside ur mouth?... :blah

[DaMavs02]

d. A technical foul shall be assessed for unsportsmanlike tactics such as:
(1) Disrespectfully addressing an official
(2) Physically contacting an official
(3) Overt actions indicating resentment to a call
(4) Use of profanity
(5) A coach entering onto the court without permission of an official
(6) A deliberately-thrown elbow or any attempted physical act with no con-tact involved
(7) Taunting


I think Duncan pretty clearly fits into the "Overt actions indicating resentment to a call" camp. He had already been warned once and still continued. Players and coaches get two quick technicals and ejected all the time -- when the first technical isn't enough of a detractor to get the person to change their behavior.

I think Joey had a quick hook because he thought Duncan was planning on complaining and "indicating resentment" the rest of the game, and figured he'd get rid of the distraction.

[bigfish22]

Yo Leonard, you have seriously been talking out of your ass all morning on this one. I have read each and every one of your posts and you make more of a jack ass of yourself with each one. You are seriously making a case for yourself as a character on the next ESPNews commercial, where they show 'sports fans' talking out of their asses. Regardless of what team I like, I would still think you have nothing good to say and you need to just stop posting in this thread because you have already dug yourself past 6 feet in!

That being said, I commend the all the non-Spurs fans for making the right call in saying this was an unwarranted ejection. Anyone who thinks otherwise is really just a hater. And if I, along with everyone else here, am wrong, I have yet to see one credible, logical, or even sane argument that says otherwise.

[CubanMustGo]

I think Duncan pretty clearly fits into the "Overt actions indicating resentment to a call" camp. He had already been warned once and still continued. Players and coaches get two quick technicals and ejected all the time -- when the first technical isn't enough of a detractor to get the person to change their behavior.

I think Joey had a quick hook because he thought Duncan was planning on complaining and "indicating resentment" the rest of the game, and figured he'd get rid of the distraction.

Good gawd another Mav fan who can read minds.

[kskonn]

I think Duncan pretty clearly fits into the "Overt actions indicating resentment to a call" camp. He had already been warned once and still continued. Players and coaches get two quick technicals and ejected all the time -- when the first technical isn't enough of a detractor to get the person to change their behavior.

I think Joey had a quick hook because he thought Duncan was planning on complaining and "indicating resentment" the rest of the game, and figured he'd get rid of the distraction.


I see your point but was duncan really being a distraction? Did anyone besides Crawford notice anything he was doing until Crawford called the second tech? It is also not Crawfords job to assume how a player will act the rest of the game, just like they do not assume that a foul will happen they wait for the foul to happen.

Also based on the rules you posted the First tech should be more in question than the second. That was Tim and Finley politely talking to a ref when Crawford ran cross court and specifically singled out Tim.

[LEONARD]

Yo Leonard, you have seriously been talking out of your ass all morning on this one. I have read each and every one of your posts and you make more of a jack ass of yourself with each one. You are seriously making a case for yourself as a character on the next ESPNews commercial, where they show 'sports fans' talking out of their asses. Regardless of what team I like, I would still think you have nothing good to say and you need to just stop posting in this thread because you have already dug yourself past 6 feet in!

Thanks...being in a commercial would be sweet... :fro

[Ginofan]

I think Duncan pretty clearly fits into the "Overt actions indicating resentment to a call" camp. He had already been warned once and still continued. Players and coaches get two quick technicals and ejected all the time -- when the first technical isn't enough of a detractor to get the person to change their behavior.

I think Joey had a quick hook because he thought Duncan was planning on complaining and "indicating resentment" the rest of the game, and figured he'd get rid of the distraction.

Dude what is he supposed to do? Sit there stone-faced the entire game, not showing any emotion whatsoever so he can avoid being singled out? Gimmie a break. And how can laughing be a resentment towards a call, did Joey know that Tim was laughing at him from all the way on the other side of the court? Joey must have super mind reading powers or something to be able to pull that shit off.

[txmed]

I think Duncan pretty clearly fits into the "Overt actions indicating resentment to a call" camp. He had already been warned once and still continued. Players and coaches get two quick technicals and ejected all the time -- when the first technical isn't enough of a detractor to get the person to change their behavior.

I think Joey had a quick hook because he thought Duncan was planning on complaining and "indicating resentment" the rest of the game, and figured he'd get rid of the distraction.

Not only is it ridiculous to grant referees such leeway in assigning motives to otherwise guiltless actions (such as laughing), but now you want to give Crawford the power to act based on what his crystal ball tells him?

You think he threw Duncan out because he thought he was going to keep complaining?

While the evidence doesn't support that version of events, the fact you even seem okay with Joey Crawford imagining he can look into the future and base his actions off of what he thinks might happen is scary!

[cheguevara]

I think Duncan pretty clearly fits into the "Overt actions indicating resentment to a call" camp. He had already been warned once and still continued. Players and coaches get two quick technicals and ejected all the time -- when the first technical isn't enough of a detractor to get the person to change their behavior.

I think Joey had a quick hook because he thought Duncan was planning on complaining and "indicating resentment" the rest of the game, and figured he'd get rid of the distraction.

what's up with all the half assed assumptions from Mavfans? how the fuck do you know what really happened?

and duncan did not get a warning. the 1st T is not a warning.

it's unbeleivable that mav fans are actually defending that nut.

[I love Tony Parker]

I think in a situation like this tha other refs should be able to step up or Ronny Nunn should have be called up on this or something!!! what if this game was really important to us or it was tha playoffs or something and cost us tha championship? Im not saying anytime a player dosent agree with a call or a T Im saying if you have a player who isnt a trouble maker like TD or any of tha Spurs for that matter get ejected for laughing I think someone higher up or all tha refs should get together and atleast agree on tha damn call!! We have all this technology and it should be PUT TO GOOD USE!!!

[Obstructed_View]

Duncan should have punched Crawford in the nuts, then the Mavs fans would be defending him.

[monosylab1k]

Duncan should have punched Crawford in the nuts, then the Mavs fans would be defending him.

Crawford should have kicked Duncan in the back, then the Spurs fans would be defending him.

[DaMavs02]

I must admit, I'm a bit confused how being given a technical for complaining from the bench while the game's proceeding isn't being given a warning to not complain any more from the bench while the game's proceeding.

Joey Crawford is crazy. Everyone in the league knows that. Duncan's postgame comments make it look like Duncan definitely has a grudge against Crawford from his last technical, and he should be smart enough to realize not to push a crazy ref if he wants to stay in the game.

[DarrinS]

it's definitely alot more likely that crawford wanted to literally fight duncan. the guy is a madman.


You'd be mad too if you looked like Ned Beatty.

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/Movies/Actors3/BEATTY_188119291_150x200.jpg

[Kermit]

Crawford should have kicked Duncan in the back, then the Spurs fans would be defending him.
duncan should've kicked an excercise bike. then the mavericks fans would be defending him.

sorry. i couldn't resist.

[FromWayDowntown]

Joey Crawford is crazy. Everyone in the league knows that. Duncan's postgame comments make it look like Duncan definitely has a grudge against Crawford from his last technical, and he should be smart enough to realize not to push a crazy ref if he wants to stay in the game.

That's a rather unique view of the situation.

I still maintain that Joey was looking for a basis to run Tim yesterday. Given the circumstances, that's the thing that makes the most sense to me. And that, to me, suggests that Tim's comments concerning vendettas and personal issues are quite understandable.

Besides, isn't it at least somewhat reasonable to think that perhaps Crawford provoked Duncan? I'm not going to defend Tim's conduct, except to say that it is an exceptional situation for a player to be ejected for something as innocuous as laughing -- particularly from a nationally televised game like that one.

[Obstructed_View]

Crawford should have kicked Duncan in the back, then the Spurs fans would be defending him.
Since the kicking incident happened two months before you signed onto this board, I'll forgive you for being completely wrong about that.

[Bandwagon Bill]

This just in...

Fuck Gene Wojo the Joto.

[monosylab1k]

Since the kicking incident happened two months before you signed onto this board, I'll forgive you for being completely wrong about that.

people were debating about it just last week. lots of excuses for bowen.

[txmed]

people were debating about it just last week. lots of excuses for bowen.

I, a Spurs fan, think Bruce Bowen should've been ejected from that game.

But what happened last year in no way changes how Crawford's jackassery should be dealt with by the league or the fact that Duncan's actions/comments, when considering his punishment, should be mediated by...well, the aforementioned Crawford jackassery.

[kskonn]

I must admit, I'm a bit confused how being given a technical for complaining from the bench while the game's proceeding isn't being given a warning to not complain any more from the bench while the game's proceeding.

Joey Crawford is crazy. Everyone in the league knows that. Duncan's postgame comments make it look like Duncan definitely has a grudge against Crawford from his last technical, and he should be smart enough to realize not to push a crazy ref if he wants to stay in the game.

Well I think a warning is going over to the Bench or to the coach and saying, hey get your guys under control or I am going to t them up. Or Hey Tim quit complaining or I am going to t you up. You don't just T someone up and the quickly t them up again. Especially if you did not adequately explain what the first t was fo.

[I love Tony Parker]

:rolleyes

[I love Tony Parker]

:rolleyes

[ducks]

they have to make a decesion today since spurs play today

[mardigan]

This is funny because no ref would have dared do that to Dirk for fear of the Cube. That is one of the things I like about Cuban, he would have sent in so many tapes to the office they would have had to suspend that ref.

[DaMavs02]

No refs would do that to Dirk, because for the most part after he gets a technical, he's smart enough to stop complaining or at least tone it down considerably.

Tim Duncan should know better than to keep poking a crazed zebra. They bite once, then kick the second time.

[SpursWoman]

This is funny because no ref would have dared do that to Dirk for fear of the Cube. That is one of the things I like about Cuban, he would have sent in so many tapes to the office they would have had to suspend that ref.


They do send tapes, they just don't make a big media stink about it. Well, the front office, anyway. :spin

[mardigan]

No refs would do that to Dirk, because for the most part after he gets a technical, he's smart enough to stop complaining or at least tone it down considerably.

Tim Duncan should know better than to keep poking a crazed zebra. They bite once, then kick the second time.
Dirk whines as much as anyone, and if you really think that Dirks never laughed on the bench then you are dense my friend.

[LilMissSPURfect]

No refs would do that to Dirk, because for the most part after he gets a technical, he's smart enough to stop complaining or at least tone it down considerably.

Tim Duncan should know better than to keep poking a crazed zebra. They bite once, then kick the second time.

do we have to explain this individually to each and every mav fan?

[mardigan]

do we have to explain this individually to each and every mav fan?
I think so , they just dont seem to grasp it. I think Mav fans are getting dumber. I really just cant grasp that some fans think it was justified.

[LEONARD]

It's pretty clear that Duncan was watching the play...the whistle blew (Crawford)...Duncan looked at Crawford for about a second (long enough to realize the call was against the Spurs)...then Duncan busted out. Horry wasn't laughing at that point...

[LilMissSPURfect]

No refs would do that to Dirk, because for the most part after he gets a technical, he's smart enough to stop complaining or at least tone it down considerably.

Tim Duncan should know better than to keep poking a crazed zebra.



timmy didn't learn his lesson for laughing the first time to he continued the giggling........

c'mon TIM u are bigger than that....next time u see joey flick him off, kick a bike or a ball or something

[monosylab1k]

No refs would do that to Dirk, because for the most part after he gets a technical, he's smart enough to stop complaining or at least tone it down considerably.

Tim Duncan should know better than to keep poking a crazed zebra. They bite once, then kick the second time.

the crazed zebra should have known better than to go apeshit over some ultimately harmless poking.

[spursfan09]

the crazed zebra should have known better than to go apeshit over some ultimately harmless poking.

Here's a mavs fan who gets it.

[Sobe_Kucks]

So if Duncan had been on the bench with his Blackberry typing in "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH" would Crawford have tossed him 4 that? The sad thing is it's obvious Crawford has something out for TD. They played an audio clip on Sports talk here in Houston this morn and you can hear Crawford asking TD if he wants to fight??? And the NBA is probably not going to adress this. :rolleyes

[mardigan]

It's pretty clear that Duncan was watching the play...the whistle blew (Crawford)...Duncan looked at Crawford for about a second (long enough to realize the call was against the Spurs)...then Duncan busted out. Horry wasn't laughing at that point...
So what he was watching the play, what was he supposed to be watching? He was laughing at the call, Ive seen much,much worse happen and a player not get ejected. You Mav fans can sit there and tell me that if that had been Dirk, you would have thought it was justified?

[mardigan]

the crazed zebra should have known better than to go apeshit over some ultimately harmless poking.
Bingo, bango

[LilMissSPURfect]

It's pretty clear that Duncan was watching the play...the whistle blew (Crawford)...Duncan looked at Crawford for about a second (long enough to realize the call was against the Spurs)...then Duncan busted out. Horry wasn't laughing at that point...

whatever you're assumptions are....it was unprecedented especially for a superstar to get tossed for laughing at a call or laughing at a joke or laughing with his teammates or making funny faces or whatever! timmy was laughing ! YOU ARE ASSUMING IT WAS AT JOEY !!! And even if he was I DON"T RECALL THAT BEING IN THE BOOKS

[LEONARD]

So what he was watching the play, what was he supposed to be watching? He was laughing at the call, Ive seen much,much worse happen and a player not get ejected. You Mav fans can sit there and tell me that if that had been Dirk, you would have thought it was justified?

He laughed at the call WHILE looking right at Crawford...Crawford took that as showing him up...

I would've been pissed at the time, but I don't complain about officiating...

[LilMissSPURfect]

Here's a mavs fan who gets it.

:clap :drunk :drunk

[LEONARD]

whatever you're assumptions are....it was unprecedented especially for a superstar to get tossed for laughing at a call or laughing at a joke or laughing with his teammates or making funny faces or whatever! timmy was laughing ! YOU ARE ASSUMING IT WAS AT JOEY !!! And even if he was I DON"T RECALL THAT BEING IN THE BOOKS

You can see where Crawford was as the play was taking place...he was behind the play walking towards the bench side...which is to Duncan's right. What else would Duncan have looked at away from the play?

[mardigan]

He laughed at the call WHILE looking right at Crawford...Crawford took that as showing him up...

I would've been pissed at the time, but I don't complain about officiating...
Dude, I have watched the clip way more times than I would have liked to. He doesnt look straight at Crawford, he was watching the play, starts laughing and puts his head in his towel

[Ginofan]

No refs would do that to Dirk, because for the most part after he gets a technical, he's smart enough to stop complaining or at least tone it down considerably.

Tim Duncan should know better than to keep poking a crazed zebra. They bite once, then kick the second time.

Nope, dirk just takes his aggression out by kicking basketballs and excercise bikes :tu

[spursfan09]

You can see where Crawford was as the play was taking place...he was behind the play walking towards the bench side...which is to Duncan's right. What else would Duncan have looked at away from the play?

I think you have analyzed this even more than Spurs fans. Just give it up. It was a bad ejection. why do you insist on defending it?

[LilMissSPURfect]

He laughed at the call WHILE looking right at Crawford...Crawford took that as showing him up...

I would've been pissed at the time, but I don't complain about officiating...


its called ASS--U--ME

and and joey assumed thats what timmy was laughing at....maybe joey had his fly open maybe timmy was envious of joey's haircut ....

[LEONARD]

Dude, I have watched the clip way more times than I would have liked to. He doesnt look straight at Crawford, he was watching the play, starts laughing and puts his head in his towel

Watch 1 more time...

at 1:37 of that youtube link he looks away from the play to where Crawford is. Then busts out laughing...then puts his face in the towel...


I think you have analyzed this even more than Spurs fans. Just give it up. It was a bad ejection. why do you insist on defending it?

Actually I've only watched it a couple times...it's not that hard to figure out what happened...

[sa_butta]

You can see where Crawford was as the play was taking place...he was behind the play walking towards the bench side...which is to Duncan's right. What else would Duncan have looked at away from the play?Who knows, and he probably was laughing at the call, but who really cares. He was not in his face complaining a call or questioning anything.

[ducks]

is it against the rules to laugh at the ref?
not saying he did not saying he did not

[spursfan09]

Watch 1 more time...

at 1:37 of that youtube link he looks away from the play to where Crawford is. Then busts out laughing...then puts his face in the towel...



Actually I've only watched it a couple times...it's not that hard to figure out what happened...

But why do you want Spurs fans to agree the ejection was justifiable?

[ducks]

if duncan cursed at the ref he would have deserved to get a t

[sa_butta]

Watch 1 more time...

at 1:37 of that youtube link he looks away from the play to where Crawford is. Then busts out laughing...then puts his face in the towel...



Actually I've only watched it a couple times...it's not that hard to figure out what happened...If it was Dirk getting the "T" I dont think you would feel the same. He didnt have to look at him, he wasnt even on the court.

[spursfan09]

Actually I've only watched it a couple times...it's not that hard to figure out what happened...

I haven't even watched it a couple of times. I know what I saw during the game. It was dumb to throw him out. YOu are like Crawford, just trying to look for the worst in Tim Duncan.

[mardigan]

If it was Dirk getting the "T" I dont think you would feel the same. He didnt have to look at him, he wasnt even on the court.
I know thats the funniest thing Butta, if Dirk had gotten tossed and the Mavs had lost, we would never hear the end of it

[sa_butta]

Im not saying we didnt get outplayed in the latter part of the 4th, but I am saying it could have been different with Tim out there at the end of the game.

[IX_Equilibrium]

Actually I've only watched it a couple times...it's not that hard to figure out what happened...

:rolleyes

You have about as much credibility as Melvin Guillard at this point.

[Bandwagon Bill]

Leonard has single handedly kept about 21 threads going with his madness. Just let him live in delusion so the board can get on to something else. I can't wait for tonights game to get this one in the rear view.

[monosylab1k]

If it was Dirk getting the "T" I dont think you would feel the same. He didnt have to look at him, he wasnt even on the court.

that's the thing that gets me...if Duncan was in the game and laughing at Crawford like that, then maybe I can understand him getting tossed. But Duncan was completely uninvolved with the game at the time and unless he was actually yelling something at crawford then there's no reason to eject him.

[mardigan]

that's the thing that gets me...if Duncan was in the game and laughing at Crawford like that, then maybe I can understand him getting tossed. But Duncan was completely uninvolved with the game at the time and unless he was actually yelling something at crawford then there's no reason to eject him.
Totally agree

[LEONARD]

refer to my new thread

[callo1]

Are you sure? ;)



because I don't complain about officiating...I learned it here... :fro

and I don't think Crawford meant a physical fight... ;)

What, are you his F'ing interpreter now? Can you read minds too?

Go F**C* the hell off you PoS.

I can't wait for your sorry a$$es in the WCF, if you get by Golden State that is.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

refer to my new thread

Because it had a totally different perspective than your other 100 posts today :rolleyes

[LEONARD]

Because it had a totally different perspective than your other 100 posts today :rolleyes

Actually it did...it had a second by second breakdown of the play, Duncan's reactions, and Crawford's location on the court. And it was NOT defending Crawford's actions...

But the mods just deleted it, fuck it...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Actually it did...it had a second by second breakdown of the play, Duncan's reactions, and Crawford's location on the court. And it was NOT defending Crawford's actions...

But the mods just deleted it, fuck it...

It wasn't deleted, it was added to one of the other billion threads on this topic that are already out there.

[LEONARD]

It wasn't deleted, it was added to one of the other billion threads on this topic that are already out there.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64390&page=2

[LilMissSPURfect]

Actually it did...it had a second by second breakdown of the play, Duncan's reactions, and Crawford's location on the court. And it was NOT defending Crawford's actions...

But the mods just deleted it, fuck it...



next time timmy or anyone else gets a T we'll look to you for the breakdown! THANKS for volunteering!


We got it straight now

[LEONARD]

next time timmy or anyone else gets a T we'll look to you for the breakdown! THANKS for volunteering!

We got it straight now

Yep, that was my intention in doing it...

:donkey

[Sobe_Kucks]

Hey LeOnARd - Despite the fact that even Mav blogs state they think it was a bit over the top for Crawford to eject TD, despite ESPN website reporting that Crawford might lose his whistle for the playoffs... I really think you have a point, you are awesome, Crawford is top notch, Crawford's short fuse doesn't affect games (see Nellie in 2003 ), TD really did get what he deserved for staring at whatever and whoever you say he was staring at while laughing, and I really respect the Mavs and how awesome they are. Now will you just STFU and stop posting shite on this board!!!! Your other Mavs fans don't seem to be piling on and you are dropping what little respect I had for Mavs fans at an exponential rate. I have to believe that some Mavs fans are not idiots. You're voice is persistent (just like a bad rash) and just as annoying; now go on your Mav's board and talk about how bad we suck and how TD got exactly what he deserved. I think we're all tired of hearing it from one "enlightened" idiot with the intelligence quotient of a small vegetable.

[I love Tony Parker]

Will Duncan be playing today? did he get fined?

[NBA Junkie]

I don't remember Tim staring at Crawford while laughing? Did I miss something? Its funny the way Mav fans are just trying to make this ejection justifiable just so they can feel good about thier cheap win.

Kind of difficult to stare down an official when Duncan had a towel draped over his head for a part of the laughing incident.

It figures that the Mavs homers would think that these actions merit a second tech and a ejection.

[LEONARD]

Hey LeOnARd - Despite the fact that even Mav blogs state they think it was a bit over the top for Crawford to eject TD, despite ESPN website reporting that Crawford might lose his whistle for the playoffs... I really think you have a point, you are awesome, Crawford is top notch, Crawford's short fuse doesn't affect games (see Nellie in 2003 ), TD really did get what he deserved for staring at whatever and whoever you say he was staring at while laughing, and I really respect the Mavs and how awesome they are. Now will you just STFU and stop posting shite on this board!!!! Your other Mavs fans don't seem to be piling on and you are dropping what little respect I had for Mavs fans at an exponential rate. I have to believe that some Mavs fans are not idiots. You're voice is persistent (just like a bad rash) and just as annoying; now go on your Mav's board and talk about how bad we suck and how TD got exactly what he deserved. I think we're all tired of hearing it from one "enlightened" idiot with the intelligence quotient of a small vegetable.

:lol

Read much? Where did I saw anything even close to Crawford being top notch??

I'm not trying to justify Crawford's reaction, only figure out what set him off... (see post #42)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64390&page=2


Kind of difficult to stare down an official when Duncan had a towel draped over his head for a part of the laughing incident.

It figures that the Mavs homers would think that these actions merit a second tech and a ejection.

I've already stated that I was wrong about Duncan staring him down during the play and up until the whistle...you're a little late with that HSO holmes...

[mando6599]

That's showing up the refs how?? :hat



Looked like a staredown to me...Timmy's eyes didn't move for several seconds before laughing, and during the laugh...


He was following what happened on the play, not staring at Crawford, go back and check it out.

[LEONARD]

He was following what happened on the play, not staring at Crawford, go back and check it out.

Dude, you are about 6 hrs behind...I already admitted that I was wrong about the staredown during the play. And I timelined when he looked at Crawford and busted out, which is what got him tossed...