NBA Referee Joey Crawford Suspended

[rayray2k8]

http://www.nba.com/news/crawford_070417.html

NEW YORK, April 17, 2007 – NBA referee Joey Crawford has been indefinitely suspended for improper conduct toward Tim Duncan during the San Antonio Spurs at Dallas Mavericks game on April 15, it was announced today by NBA Commissioner David Stern. The conduct included Crawford's assessment of a second technical foul and ejection of Duncan following laughter by the player while he was seated on the bench, and inappropriate comments made to Duncan during the game.
Crawford's suspension will cover at least the remainder of the 2006-07 season, including the NBA Playoffs and Finals.

"Joey Crawford's handling of this situation failed to meet the standards of professionalism and game management we expect of NBA referees," said Stern. "Especially in light of similar prior acts by this official, a significant suspension is warranted. Although Joey is consistently rated as one of our top referees, he must be held accountable for his actions on the floor, and we will have further discussions with him following the season to be sure he understands his responsibilities."

The incidents occurred with 1:04 remaining in the third period of the Mavericks 91-86 win over the Spurs on Sunday, April 8 at American Airlines Center.

[baseline bum]

http://www.nba.com/news/crawford_070417.html


NEW YORK, April 17, 2007 – NBA referee Joey Crawford has been indefinitely suspended for improper conduct toward Tim Duncan during the San Antonio Spurs at Dallas Mavericks game on April 15, it was announced today by NBA Commissioner David Stern. The conduct included Crawford's assessment of a second technical foul and ejection of Duncan following laughter by the player while he was seated on the bench, and inappropriate comments made to Duncan during the game.

Crawford's suspension will cover at least the remainder of the 2006-07 season, including the NBA Playoffs and Finals.

"Joey Crawford's handling of this situation failed to meet the standards of professionalism and game management we expect of NBA referees," said Stern. "Especially in light of similar prior acts by this official, a significant suspension is warranted. Although Joey is consistently rated as one of our top referees, he must be held accountable for his actions on the floor, and we will have further discussions with him following the season to be sure he understands his responsibilities."

The incidents occurred with 1:04 remaining in the third period of the Mavericks 91-86 win over the Spurs on Sunday, April 8 at American Airlines Center.

[rayray2k8]

wow I am a bit shocked by this.

[neboat]

Just heard from DAn patrick show.

NEW YORK, April 17, 2007 – NBA referee Joey Crawford has been indefinitely suspended for improper conduct toward Tim Duncan during the San Antonio Spurs at Dallas Mavericks game on April 15, it was announced today by NBA Commissioner David Stern. The conduct included Crawford's assessment of a second technical foul and ejection of Duncan following laughter by the player while he was seated on the bench, and inappropriate comments made to Duncan during the game.
Crawford's suspension will cover at least the remainder of the 2006-07 season, including the NBA Playoffs and Finals.

"Joey Crawford's handling of this situation failed to meet the standards of professionalism and game management we expect of NBA referees," said Stern. "Especially in light of similar prior acts by this official, a significant suspension is warranted. Although Joey is consistently rated as one of our top referees, he must be held accountable for his actions on the floor, and we will have further discussions with him following the season to be sure he understands his responsibilities."

The incidents occurred with 1:04 remaining in the third period of the Mavericks 91-86 win over the Spurs on Sunday, April 8 at American Airlines Center.

[rayray2k8]

haha.
Both of us uploaded this at the same time..
I guess they can get merged together.

[baseline bum]

This was too ridiculous to ignore. I'm not at all surprised by Stern's ruling.

[Spurminator]

Wow.

[jn77]

Indefanatley!!!!! FUCK YOU CRAWFORD!! Enjoy your vacation! :blah :spin

[rayray2k8]

stern will be on the dan patrick show in a few min.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?id=1058218&rate=null&format=null&type=show&play=null&name=null

[angel_luv]

If this is a joke....

[SpursWoman]

dayum.

[ICE3000]

justice has been served....

[picnroll]

Stern got it right. No room for a mad man ref in the playoffs. Not in any teams interest.

[angel_luv]

Oh my gosh, is real? :lol

[rayray2k8]

stern will announce it on the dan patrick show in a few min.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?id=1058218&rate=null&format=null&type=show&play=null&name=null

[SpursWoman]

If this is a joke....


No...two of them posted it at the exact same time. :lol

[Mr. Body]

I'm actually feeling sorry for the guy now. He's one of the top referees, but yeah, discipline was in order.

[Dyno2000]

David Stern just developed some huevos!!

[angel_luv]

Oh happy day! :elephant

Joey: No play offs for you!

:lmao x 21 ( since I am not allowed to post that many)
:toast

[Holt's Cat]

Damn.

Hmmm...one game left. Maybe we can deal with Bavetta too...

:purrrrr

[LEONARD]

Good news for all NBA fans :fro

[LakerLanny]

Too bad they didn't get rid of him before he fixed the Detroit-Lakers finals series.

He joins Jake O'Donnell in NBA purgatory. You have to be extremely corrupt to get a corrupt fixer commissioner like The Fuhrer to suspend you.

[carrecaminos]

Awesome.

Do you think the whole " do you want to fight" thing was recorded by ESPN mics?

[jn77]

If this is a joke....


Not a joke, Jim Rome lead with the story on his radio show!!!

[rayray2k8]

close this thread.
heres a link to where this can be discussed.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64520

[sa_butta]

Mavs fans still think Duncans Ejection was justified? Who cares no Crawford for the Playoffs!!!!!

[rayray2k8]

already being discussed in this thread.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64520

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Hol-y shit!

[Obstructed_View]

The Mavs morons had me doubting whether anything would come of this. Since Duncan didn't get fined yesterday I suspected something was up. Wow. Vindication.

[rayray2k8]

stern will be on the dan patrick show soon.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?id=1058218&rate=null&format=null&type=show&play=null&name=null

[angel_luv]

My week is getting so much better. Yea! :)

[kskonn]

Awesome.

Do you think the whole " do you want to fight" thing was recorded by ESPN mics?

It sounds like they did have that on tape. But Dan patrick made a point that Crawford probaly meant "fight" figuratively but that he cannot take things like laughing personally.

Jackson said that although he is one of their best refs he cannot make it personal with the players.

[Spurminator]

stern will be on the dan patrick show soon.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?id=1058218&rate=null&format=null&type=show&play=null&name=null


I think half the country must have just logged onto ESPNRadio.com. I can't get anything to play.

[MoSpur]

I didn't expect that. I thought maybe a stiff fine or one game suspension, but not for the rest of the season and playoffs.

[ratm1221]

Good riddance.

[DarrinS]

HOLY CRAP!


This really surprises me. I was thinking maybe one game and, possibly, a fine.


Wow.

[nkdlunch]

he who laughs last....

http://deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/04/DuncanTossed.jpg

[Ishta]

Well Done Stern

[rayray2k8]

I'm glad the league office admitted that what joey crawford did was wrong.

[sa_butta]

worked for me.

[rayray2k8]

he who laughs last....

http://deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/04/DuncanTossed.jpg
you think tim is laughing right now? :lol

[Pistons < Spurs]

I think half the country must have just logged onto ESPNRadio.com. I can't get anything to play.
Patrick said that Stern would be on in about half an hour.

Stern is currently doing the live chat thing on ESPN:

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=15408

I'm assuming after that he'll go to the radio side of things.

[ducks]

lucky he did not fired

[Shank]

Nicely done by the league. Ballsy.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

David Stern also chatting live.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=15408

[hater]

he who laughs last....

http://deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/04/DuncanTossed.jpg


the old mas has lost it. he deserved this punishment. he actually should've got fired.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I think half the country must have just logged onto ESPNRadio.com. I can't get anything to play.

That's why I went through ESPN Austin.

Use IE:
http://www.streamaudio.com/site/Stations.aspx?format=Sports

[dbreiden83080]

Tim comes out of this SMELLING like ROSES. For anyone out there saying Duncan was lying about saying Crawford challenged him to fight eat crow people. No doubt that he said that to Timmy and he is paying the price.

[BeerIsGood!]

Dayum. The one thing I think Stern has gotten correct regarding the officials in years. Hopefully this sends a message to the other refs to call even games

[DaMavs02]

I think Duncan knew exactly what he was doing and he got the result he wanted.

[EastsBeasts]

This is great news for Rasheed! Ok, you might as well book the championship for the Pistons right now. Thank you Duncan, best wishes.

[LakerLanny]

Stern got it right. No room for a mad man ref in the playoffs. Not in any teams interest.

The last ten years has featured some of the most rigged, biased "officiating" in any professional sport ever.

The NBA has serious, serious problems with the officials.

And why just suspend Crawford? Fire this clown already, he has been fixing games and having personal biases for 15 years at least.

Get rid of Javie, Rat Salvatore, Bob Delaney, Jack Nies, Bernie Fryer while you are at it.

The NBA is a joke.

[DarrinS]

Now, if only we can get rid of these two

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/dick_bavetta_gross-1.jpg

http://www.bbsr.de/images/nba/javie_steve.jpg

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Joey, you're #1!

http://www.spurstalk.com/mdog09.jpg

[hater]

:lol mavfans defending crawford look stupid as hell too. what's new

[baseline bum]

Thank God. Even though I 100% believe Bennett Salvatore cost the Spurs the title last year with that ridiculous 6th on Duncan, I can live with it because it's just a blown call, and shit happens. Salvatore may be blind, but he's not an asshole looking to be bigger than the game. No one watches the NBA to see Joey Crawford, Steve Javie, or Dick Bavetta.

[41times]

1 Crawford down and 1 to go!

Now if we can get rid of Danny Crawford (no relationship) we will be good to go.

Stern got one right. The Refs can not be bigger than the game itself. I think this out to send a message to those arrogant b@stards!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Yew jess kent dew teengs like detttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Corso!

[picnroll]

Too bad they didn't get rid of him before he fixed the Detroit-Lakers finals series.

He joins Jake O'Donnell in NBA purgatory. You have to be extremely corrupt to get a corrupt fixer commissioner like The Fuhrer to suspend you.
I'd say baiting a player, asking him if he wants to fight, surpasses any action of a ref in modern day history even the Lakers whining and perceived injusitce about the Lakers - Detroit series. They just allowed Detroit the mugging that the Lakers were allowed on Duncan and Parker.

[rayray2k8]

stern hasnt come on yet.
I wonder what he's doing?

[dbreiden83080]

Crawford fucked with one of the good guys in the league. If this was Artest they probably would not have even investigated. Crawford messed with Duncan though and that is a big reason this got so much attention because Timmy does not get involved in these kind on things.

[EastsBeasts]

Too bad they didn't get rid of him before he fixed the Detroit-Lakers finals series.


Hahah, I never laughed so hard after that stupid comment. Pistons completely worked your team and it had nothing to do with Crawford.

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol mavfans defending crawford look stupid as hell too. what's new

it was only Leonard

[DarrinS]

The last ten years has featured some of the most rigged, biased "officiating" in any professional sport ever.



You mean like Kobe's elbow to Bibby's nose --- FOUL called on Bibby. That may be the single worst call i've ever seen.

[boutons_]

Great that Tim is exonerated of 2nd TF, but still a sad day for NBA :

when an official gets indefinitely suspended,

when the winner of a high-quality, competitive, close game between the 2 tops teams is decided by bad reffing.

[Tek_XX]

If tim didn't have a vendetta before he's got one now.

Me thinks Stern is looking for a reason to throw the book at these big ego refs.

[SpursWoman]

This is great news for Rasheed!


No doubt. :lol

[hater]

:lmao a laker fan complaining about refs!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

stern hasnt come on yet.
I wonder what he's doing?

ESPN Chat.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=15408

[DarrinS]

1 Crawford down and 1 to go!

Now if we can get rid of Danny Crawford (no relationship) we will be good to go.

Stern got one right. The Refs can not be bigger than the game itself. I think this out to send a message to those arrogant b@stards!



Dan Crawford is a very good ref.

[Supergirl]

Awesome.

[angel_luv]

:lmao at nkdlunch :lol

[picnroll]

Might be hard to fine Duncan now.

[LakerLanny]

I'd say baiting a player, asking him if he wants to fight, surpasses any action of a ref in modern day history even the Lakers whining and perceived injusitce about the Lakers - Detroit series. They just allowed Detroit the mugging that the Lakers were allowed on Duncan and Parker.

They called phantom jump ball violations to open the first 4 games of the series.

Lakers were out of fouls with 8-9 minutes left in every quarter and Kobe was 'shut down' by Tayshaun Prince riding him like a rented mule without a whistle.

Everyone knows that series was fixed, it was not even hidden. Since then, nothing even amazes me when it comes to the NBA, playoff games and their "impartial officials"

If it is true that Crawford is being suspended with pay, I would have to question why he is being paid. Joey is the worst of the worst, but at least ten other guys need to go also from the NBA officiating ranks.

[BeerIsGood!]

Great that Tim is exonerated of 2nd TF, but still a sad day for NBA :

when an official gets indefinitely suspended,

when the winner of a high-quality, competitive, close game between the 2 tops teams is decided by bad reffing.

The officiating has gotten so bad that something needed to happen to bring about change. When thousands upon thousands of "fans" are coming to regard the league as fake and/or fixed - it's time to do something. Hopefully this is just the first domino that gets things going.

[Obstructed_View]

Dan Crawford is a very good ref.
I agree. I think most of them are very good. Crawford wrecked his entire crew for the game on Sunday, and I've never seen anything like that in any sport before.

[Budkin]

Fuck You Crawford!!! Finally a ref pays for his actions on the court! Justice is served! :clap :clap :clap

[kskonn]

Thank God. Even though I 100% believe Bennett Salvatore cost the Spurs the title last year with that ridiculous 6th on Duncan, I can live with it because it's just a blown call, and shit happens. Salvatore may be blind, but he's not an asshole looking to be bigger than the game. No one watches the NBA to see Joey Crawford, Steve Javie, or Dick Bavetta.


Wasn't that Joey who made that call?

[LakerLanny]

Hahah, I never laughed so hard after that stupid comment. Pistons completely worked your team and it had nothing to do with Crawford.

Yeah, you see 4 jump ball violations to open the first 4 games of the NBA Finals every day.

I know it hurts, but their was no way the league was going to allow the Lakers to win their 4th title in 5 years that season. It was simply not going to be allowed. They assigned almost idential crews of refs (a very small sample size by the way) to almost every game to ensure the outcome.

Look at the names of the "officials" who did that series and that is the list of guys that need to be fired. Every one of them.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

If I could Photoshop, there's be a Joey Crawford: Gone Fishin' right about now.

[polandprzem]

This is not right

Why he got suspended for so many games?

[DarrinS]

Lakers were out of fouls with 8-9 minutes left in every quarter and Kobe was 'shut down' by Tayshaun Prince riding him like a rented mule without a whistle.


Don't you just hate good defense? :fro

[Pistons < Spurs]

They called phantom jump ball violations to open the first 4 games of the series.

Lakers were out of fouls with 8-9 minutes left in every quarter and Kobe was 'shut down' by Tayshaun Prince riding him like a rented mule without a whistle.

Everyone knows that series was fixed, it was not even hidden. .


LMAO!!!!! how sad....

[kskonn]

They called phantom jump ball violations to open the first 4 games of the series.

Lakers were out of fouls with 8-9 minutes left in every quarter and Kobe was 'shut down' by Tayshaun Prince riding him like a rented mule without a whistle.

Everyone knows that series was fixed, it was not even hidden. Since then, nothing even amazes me when it comes to the NBA, playoff games and their "impartial officials"

If it is true that Crawford is being suspended with pay, I would have to question why he is being paid. Joey is the worst of the worst, but at least ten other guys need to go also from the NBA officiating ranks.


Well they probably have to pay him so he can continue to pay the IRS for all his back taxes.

[picnroll]

They called phantom jump ball violations to open the first 4 games of the series.

Lakers were out of fouls with 8-9 minutes left in every quarter and Kobe was 'shut down' by Tayshaun Prince riding him like a rented mule without a whistle.


Shaq always jumps early to steal the tap. He should be called every time. And I guess Lakers lost becasue they didn't get the opening tap. :lol

What's amazing is they give him that hesitation on the FT move.

And in the Spurs Laker series Malone was charging into Duncan on every shot trying to look like he was releasing to go up court.

[jn77]

Joey, you're #1!

http://www.spurstalk.com/mdog09.jpg


I knew that picture would come in handy! Has someone forwarded it to Joey Crawford yet!

[LilMissSPURfect]

:toast :toast

[timvp]

1) The NBA had to do this. Crawford was busted. ABC had the audio and had a camera pointed at Duncan as he was getting ejected. That was game over for Crawford.

2) So much for the small media bias by the NBA. They could have easily swept this under the rug or even come down hard on Duncan, but they sided with San Antonio.

3) Hopefully Joey Crawford is back in the NBA next season. He's an NBA lifer and I think this might finally give him the humility that he needs. He's usually a pretty good ref ... when it hasn't come to Duncan.

4) The fallout from this will be interesting in regards to how other refs view the Spurs. Will they be tougher on Duncan and the Spurs because they had a hand in taking down a ref? Will they let the Spurs get away with more because they don't want to get disciplined by the league? Hopefully it's neither and the Spurs just get a fair shake, but human nature will make a ref react to a Duncan situation different now.

[Obstructed_View]

Don't you just hate good defense? :fro
It was only good defense when Karl Malone was playing it and there were no whistles. It was overly physical bullying when Tayshaun was playing it and there were no whistles.

[nkdlunch]

this thread keeps getting better. First Crawford and now we have a lakerfan crying like a bitch :lol

[baseline bum]

lucky he did not fired

I'm guessing he most likely did. I'd be surprised to ever see him officiate another NBA game again.

[LilMissSPURfect]

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=15408 STERN TALK

[kskonn]

I'm guessing he most likely did. I'd be surprised to ever see him officiate another NBA game again.


Well they did say they would have a meeting with him after the season to discuss his responsibilities.

[angel_luv]

If I could Photoshop, there's be a Joey Crawford: Gone Fishin' right about now.


Somebody needs to!

Lefty, didn't you want to practice your photoshopping? :)

[Spurminator]

4) The fallout from this will be interesting in regards to how other refs view the Spurs. Will they be tougher on Duncan and the Spurs because they had a hand in taking down a ref? Will they let the Spurs get away with more because they don't want to get disciplined by the league? Hopefully it's neither and the Spurs just get a fair shake, but human nature will make a ref react to a Duncan situation different now.

I expressed this same concern in another thread. I think it's natural that referees will have strong feelings about this, and it's totally reasonable to believe that those feelings will somehow affect the way they call the Spurs, whether it's conscious on their part or not.

[picnroll]

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4) The fallout from this will be interesting in regards to how other refs view the Spurs. Will they be tougher on Duncan and the Spurs because they had a hand in taking down a ref? Will they let the Spurs get away with more because they don't want to get disciplined by the league? Hopefully it's neither and the Spurs just get a fair shake, but human nature will make a ref react to a Duncan situation different now.

That wsa my paranoid feeling yesterday. Doesn't take much to sway a game. A couple of fouls to send a guy to the bench. Hopefully Duncan doesn't get the Olympics' treatment. We'll see.

[nkdlunch]

Well they did say they would have a meeting with him after the season to discuss his responsibilities.

his new responsibilities next season will be:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/kisatchie/images/volunteer/old_janitor_sweeping_hg_clr.gif

[Hook Dem]

Justice is served regardless of what Mav fans say! :hungry:

[tmtcsc]

http://i2.tinypic.com/263tweb.jpg

FUCK YOU JOEY CRAWFORD...Punk

I imagine Tim is saying and laughing a whole lot right now. I'm sure he'll be politically correct for the cameras and say the right thing but..... :toast

[angel_luv]

3) Hopefully Joey Crawford is back in the NBA next season. He's an NBA lifer and I think this might finally give him the humility that he needs. He's usually a pretty good ref ... when it hasn't come to Duncan.

There is something to be said for bowing out gracefully and stopping while you're ahead. :)

[dbreiden83080]

Assumming he is back next year i wonder if JC will have the balls to ever T Timmy up again. If he does everyone will start laughing and bring up this incident again.

[LakerLanny]

Hopefully Duncan doesn't get the Olympics' treatment. We'll see.

By the Olympic Treatment, you mean when refs with no agendas officiate every game with no bias and to the best of their abilities?

Duncan could have used a big dose of Joey Crawford and his other "officials" at the Olympics

[angel_luv]

his new responsibilities next season will be:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/kisatchie/images/volunteer/old_janitor_sweeping_hg_clr.gif


You are on a roll today! :tu :lol

Hilarious!

[picnroll]

Somebody needs to!

Lefty, didn't you want to practice your photoshopping? :)
Better a Walmart greeter. Good job for Joe in the office season. Help him work on his people skills.

[Shank]

http://czabe.com/daily/archives/cowher_walmart.jpg

[LilMissSPURfect]

Assumming he is back next year i wonder if JC will have the balls to ever T Timmy up again. If he does everyone will start laughing and bring up this incident again.


I all for T ing up Timmy and any player that deserve it! not the case in this situation

[Grey]

I think Duncan knew exactly what he was doing and he got the result he wanted.

If that's the case, he did the league and its fans a favor. This isn't Crawford's first and only offense. Give Duncan the MVP trophy for this one.

[texas84]

Even Mavs fans are pleased with this. At least I am.

Crawford needed a "Come to Jesus... er... Stern" meeting. Now he'll hopefully get things in persepective before he comes back next season.

[101A]

...

If it is true that Crawford is being suspended with pay, I would have to question why he is being paid. Joey is the worst of the worst, but at least ten other guys need to go also from the NBA officiating ranks.

That post makes you think...hmmmmmmmmm?

Regardless of everything else, Phoenix now DOES have the HCA over SA in rd. 2.

[Behrooz24]

Did i miss stern?

edit: hes NEXT

[mabber]

Joey will not be missed in the playoffs.

[lefty]

No Crawford to ruin our playoff chances ; we'll see how it turns out vs Dallas this time :clap :clap :clap

However, I'm afraid Bavetta, Javie and Salvatore will try to avenge him

[nkdlunch]

Yes Joey Crawford was the main ref in that infamous game 3 vs. dallas. Spurs fans should be exctatic that he will not ref this playoffs.

[DarrinS]

Offseason job

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/nba/2002/0116/photo/r_cuban_i.jpg

[SpursWoman]

http://czabe.com/daily/archives/cowher_walmart.jpg



Good luck, Joey!


http://www.zudfunck.com/photos/uncategorized/welcometowalmart_1.jpg

[lefty]

I hope Crawford won't be replaced by this guy :

http://www.beinamovie.com/movie-images/posterpage/ForgetParis7.jpg

[rayray2k8]

he's on

[kskonn]

If that's the case, he did the league and its fans a favor. This isn't Crawford's first and only offense. Give Duncan the MVP trophy for this one.

Duncan was probably operating in conjuction with Stern, it was all sterns master plan.

Conversation with joey:

Stern: Hey joe I was thinking we should prove a point tonight.
JC: oh yea what do you mean?
Stern: well I was thinking if Duncan says a word or you know laughs you should throw him out.what do you think?
JC: oh hell yea, anything you for you buddy.
Stern: great!


Conversation With Tim:
Stern: Hey tim how you doing?
Tim: Good
Stern: Hey i am getting a little sick of the egotistical bastart crawford.
Duncan:he is retarded
Stern: exactly what I was thinking!! Well anyway I was thinking if he gives you any shit tonight you should call him out.
Duncan: ok.
Stern: really make a big deal, a big scene. you know don't leave right away, yell at him and then when everyone thinks it is over really go off through the media. Don't worry we got your back.
Duncan: Ok.



and that my friends is how it happened.

[jn77]

Joey, you're #1!

http://www.spurstalk.com/mdog09.jpg


This is now my MySpace profile picture!! :lol

[gameFACE]

Don't fuck with Timmy! :smokin

[Findog]

Time to suspend that blind Alzheimers patient Salvatore too!

[LilMissSPURfect]

Offseason job

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/nba/2002/0116/photo/r_cuban_i.jpg



""SWEEEEET ""

[MFFL41]

Good to see the League got this one right. Probably the most ridiculous thing I have seen in along time of watching Mavs Basketball! It will be nice to see a game with less bias in it. I will admit to seeing some bias in the calls the last game and they definitely leaned towards my team. Here's to hoping that is out of picture now.

See ya'll in a month or so!

[Findog]

Crawford gone is something all fans can appreciate. Stern got it halfway right: Salvatore should be pushed out and forced to "retire."

[aaronstampler]

1) The NBA had to do this. Crawford was busted. ABC had the audio and had a camera pointed at Duncan as he was getting ejected. That was game over for Crawford.

2) So much for the small media bias by the NBA. They could have easily swept this under the rug or even come down hard on Duncan, but they sided with San Antonio.

3) Hopefully Joey Crawford is back in the NBA next season. He's an NBA lifer and I think this might finally give him the humility that he needs. He's usually a pretty good ref ... when it hasn't come to Duncan.

4) The fallout from this will be interesting in regards to how other refs view the Spurs. Will they be tougher on Duncan and the Spurs because they had a hand in taking down a ref? Will they let the Spurs get away with more because they don't want to get disciplined by the league? Hopefully it's neither and the Spurs just get a fair shake, but human nature will make a ref react to a Duncan situation different now.


I don't know, I think Stern will make sure to nip that in the bud. I think the commish appreciated that Pop didn't flip out during the game or after and aired his grievances privately so as to not embarass anyone further.

It's worth noting though that Crawford is not the least bit apologetic about the thing. Stern just said that he believes he did the right thing and would do it again. Maybe it's time to retire this guy, because he clearly has issues.

[picnroll]

By the Olympic Treatment, you mean when refs with no agendas officiate every game with no bias and to the best of their abilities?

Duncan could have used a big dose of Joey Crawford and his other "officials" at the Olympics
No agenda? Like not eliminating the US from contention? For the king of conspiracies and chips on a shoulder pretty lame not to see a potential reason.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Joey Crawford Suspended Indefinitely!

April 17, 2007 2:22 PM

Check out David Stern's chat on ESPN, where he says: "We are not getting any satisfaction out of this. Crawford is always one of our highest rated officials. We just did what we had to do."

Memo to league officials: do not mess with Tim Duncan. The Spurs are my pick to win the title.

[jn77]

When asked if JC could appeal, Stern said "It's not gonna Happen"! Awesome!! He also said that Joey said he thinks he did the right thing and if given the chance he would do it again. :donkey

[LilMissSPURfect]

Time to suspend that blind Alzheimers patient Salvatore too!


I don't think anyone truly wants to cause someone to lose their jobs but hopefully now REFS and PLAYERS both know that no one is above the law (cept shaq :rolleyes ) dang...we just want consistency ! and at the end of the day if your team won or lost it was because of the players not the refs! :clap

[ratm1221]

Glad to see him go, but at the same this could have a negative effect. I just hope this doesn't give players a free pass to act like kids when they are sitting on the bench now.

[SpursWoman]

I just hope this doesn't give players a free pass to act like kids when they are sitting on the bench now.



Yes, because everyone knows you shouldn't have any fun when you play a game for a living.

[DarrinS]

Glad to see him go, but at the same this could have a negative effect. I just hope this doesn't give players a free pass to act like kids when they are sitting on the bench now.


WTF is that supposed to mean?


Most players ARE kids. Well, all but Horry and Finley.

[kskonn]

I think the important thing is that stern said when a ref feels he is being mocked or a player is trying to bait him that they are instructed to walk away from the problem. Turn their head and walk away. Obviously Joey was looking for trouble not walking away from the problem.

[angel_luv]

:lol Kskonn :)

[slayermin]

Too bad they didn't get rid of him before he fixed the Detroit-Lakers finals series.

He joins Jake O'Donnell in NBA purgatory. You have to be extremely corrupt to get a corrupt fixer commissioner like The Fuhrer to suspend you.

Yeah, Kobe had nothing to do with the Lakers demise. Pistons were the better team that year. Live with it.

And by the way, FUCK THE LAKERS!

[picnroll]

He also said that Joey said he thinks he did the right thing and if given the chance he would do it again. :donkey
Guess that Walmart greetin gig may be full time.

[angel_luv]

This is such poetic justice. Joey thought Timmy laughing at him was bad and now the whole world is.

What is it they say about karma? :angel

[NBA Junkie]

Indefinitely is such an open ended term that he could only be suspended until the playoffs begin or until the start of the next round or the round after that.

It may seem unlikely, but it could happen that way.

[DarrinS]

Crawford gone is something all fans can appreciate. Stern got it halfway right: Salvatore should be pushed out and forced to "retire."


You guys seem to hate Salvatore and Dan Crawford. Why is that? I think Salvatore blew a call that may have cost the Spurs a game vs. Dallas last season, but, overall, I think he's a good ref.

[LilMissSPURfect]

Any word on Tim's punishment, if any?

[PM5K]

3) Hopefully Joey Crawford is back in the NBA next season. He's an NBA lifer and I think this might finally give him the humility that he needs. He's usually a pretty good ref ... when it hasn't come to Duncan.


I agree. Do you remember how bad Javie used to be?

Hopefully he'll be able to give us a few more good years of officiating...

[kskonn]

Indefinitely is such an open ended term that he could only be suspended until the playoffs begin or until the start of the next round or the round after that.

It may seem unlikely, but it could happen that way.

Stern made it clear that he will not be back until next season. he is suspended through this years playoffs. After the season they will sit down and discuss his responsibilities.

[SpursWoman]

Indefinitely is such an open ended term that he could only be suspended until the playoffs begin or until the start of the next round or the round after that.

It may seem unlikely, but it could happen that way.



Crawford's suspension will cover at least the remainder of the 2006-07 season, including the NBA Playoffs and Finals.

[Oh, Gee!!]

good move by Stern. you woulda had a bunch of people seriously (and legitimately) questioning the results of this year's playoff games, if Crawford had been assigned to a Spurs game

[ducks]

stern said throught this playoffs and finals

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Indefinitely is such an open ended term that he could only be suspended until the playoffs begin or until the start of the next round or the round after that.

It may seem unlikely, but it could happen that way.



Crawford's suspension will cover at least the remainder of the 2006-07 season, including the NBA Playoffs and Finals.

[DarrinS]

It was only good defense when Karl Malone was playing it and there were no whistles. It was overly physical bullying when Tayshaun was playing it and there were no whistles.


The words "tayshawn" and "bully" in the same sentence. That's good.

[Findog]

Crawford needs to realize the fans pay to see TD, not him. Is he out of his freaking mind when he says that Duncan was showing him up from the bench? I've watched tons of games in person and on tv, and I don't pay any damn attention to the bench but what's going out on the floor. I guarantee you nobody watching at home or in the arena was paying Duncan any attention at all. Crawford drew attention to something nobody was even aware of.

[duncan228]

Duncan fined $25,000 for his comments.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA041707.EN.Referee.1aff89ae.html

[Behrooz24]

pwned

[DannyT]

If I could Photoshop, there's be a Joey Crawford: Gone Fishin' right about now.
you beat me tooo it
iwas gonna suggest the same thing

[nowhereman523]

props to Cuban for making the league more accountable for refs. I understand why you hate him, it's very easy to do so. But give the man credit for making referees more visible and accountable.

[SpursWoman]

Duncan fined $25,000 for his comments.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA041707.EN.Referee.1aff89ae.html


Not too bad (relatively speaking) ... it could have been worse.

[AnkleBreaker21]

damn, now crawford is going to tell his buddies to ride the spurs all the way now:lol

[LilMissSPURfect]

The NBA assessed Duncan a $25,000 fine for his derogatory comments toward Crawford. TIMMY ISN"T paying a fine for LAUGHING :lol :lol :lol :greedy :greedy :greedy

[Big P]

Not too bad (relatively speaking) ... it could have been worse.

I agree, thats about the going rate for bagging on a ref.

[SpursWoman]

TIMMY ISN"T paying a fine for LAUGHING :lol :lol :lol :greedy :greedy :greedy


No, it might be for the "Fuck you, you piece of shit" part. :wow :lmao










Most likely the "vendetta" remarks ...

[LilMissSPURfect]

Glad to see him go, but at the same this could have a negative effect. I just hope this doesn't give players a free pass to act like kids when they are sitting on the bench now.


u mean no egging on your team

no chest bumping and high fiving

no laughing at parker for trying to dunk! :p: :p: :nope :nope geeesh

[NBA Junkie]

Stern made it clear that he will not be back until next season. he is suspended through this years playoffs. After the season they will sit down and discuss his responsibilities.

Thanks for the good news!

[ambchang]

props to Cuban for making the league more accountable for refs. I understand why you hate him, it's very easy to do so. But give the man credit for making referees more visible and accountable.
Yeah, if it wasn't Cuban, Crawford would have gotten away. No doubt.

[mavsfan1000]

Well we know which team Stern is for. lol

[boutons_]

That's going to cost Joey a ton of money.

I bet the referees' representative/union/whatever will not let this pass unappealed.

[EVAY]

props to Cuban for making the league more accountable for refs. I understand why you hate him, it's very easy to do so. But give the man credit for making referees more visible and accountable.
I think you are right about Cuban's impact on the NBA and the refs. It doesn't make Cuban a decent human being, but it does make him a pioneer in this area. Cuban is a bright businessman who correctly understood that the refs were making the game about something other than the game...it would have been helpful had he also had the insight (and self-control) to recognize that his antics were ALSO distracting from the game, which is the product he has to sell, and control himself as he wanted the league to control the refs. Finally, the league had to impose rules on all of the owners to get Cuban inside the corral...it was worth it to get Cuban off the TV.

[ducks]

I wonder what cuban thinks of this

he wants the refs to be accoubtable
and then one gets out of line
SUSPENSED and it is made public!

[Big P]

That's going to cost Joey a ton of money.

I bet the referees' representative/union/whatever will not let this pass unappealed.

Stern addressed that question on the Dan Patrick show & said basically Joey could appeal if he wants to, but it will not do any good, Stern is the judge & the jury.

[Findog]

s. It doesn't make Cuban a decent human being

So what makes him a scumbag then? Resurrecting Lazarus from the NBA dead? The Fallen Patriot fund?

[LilMissSPURfect]

espn HOTLIST Stern live!

[spurschick]

:elephant :elephant :clap :clap :elephant :elephant

[BeerIsGood!]

So what makes him a scumbag then? Resurrecting Lazarus from the NBA dead? The Fallen Patriot fund?

Making insensitive and juvenile personal attacks aimed at the residents of another city, attacks which had nothing to do with basketball.

[Hoy]

I was totally off thinking Tim would get suspension. Never expected magnitude of punishment on Crawford.

Apprehensive about rest of official brotherhood's response to Spurs games now.

[DubMcDub]

Mavs fans still think Duncans Ejection was justified? Who cares no Crawford for the Playoffs!!!!!

I still think Duncan is a whiney child and if he'd been complaining consistently throughout the game (as he usually does) then yeah the ref has every right to T him up.

That said, the fact that Crawford challenged him to a fight is beyond absurd. It doesn't make Tim any less of a whiner, but it does seriously call into question Crawford's judgment.

[aaronstampler]

props to Cuban for making the league more accountable for refs. I understand why you hate him, it's very easy to do so. But give the man credit for making referees more visible and accountable.


You're crazy. The whole reason we got Crawford suspended is because we reacted to the situation completely oppositely to how Cuban and the Mavs players would have.

Pop did not flip out afterwards. He did not air his grievances to the media. He didn't say the league was rigged and he didn't say there's a conspiracy. Whatever his thoughts were, he shared them privately with the league.

Duncan didn't read Crawford the riot act in the media either. Yeah he said vendetta and all that, but he didn't swear when discussing the matter and was pretty professional about the whole thing I thought. Not exactly how Stackhouse handled his ejection in the playoffs.

Basically what the Spurs did was give Stern no choice but to suspend Crawford because the evidence was too damning. Nobody in the Spurs organization gave the league an out by acting the fool and look like a bad guy. The problem was 99% Crawford.

Cuban and the Mavs players constantly give the league an out by acting like jackasses after every bad call.

[2centsworth]

I still think Duncan is a whiney child and if he'd been complaining consistently throughout the game (as he usually does) then yeah the ref has every right to T him up.

That said, the fact that Crawford challenged him to a fight is beyond absurd. It doesn't make Tim any less of a whiner, but it does seriously call into question Crawford's judgment.

Do you specialize in contradictions?

[JamStone]

Stern got it right. No room for a mad man ref in the playoffs. Not in any teams interest.


Sorry but there are plenty of mad men referees left for the playoffs ... Javie, Garrettson, Bavetta, Nies, among others ...

[EVAY]

So what makes him a scumbag then? Resurrecting Lazarus from the NBA dead? The Fallen Patriot fund?
I don't understand the last part of your question. To the first part: what makes him difficult ( not a scumbag - I don't believe in ad hominem attacks) is that he appears so immature in his need for attention, and his belief that his business sense translates into an understanding of, and comraderie with, young, mostly african american, millionaire athletes whose salary he pays. It was embarrassing last year to watch him curse at Spurs players and continually do things to try to get himself on tv during the games. It was pathetic. That's what I meant. I know the bible, but I don't get your Lazarus reference, nor your fallen Patriot fund comment.

[Voice of Truth]

All the refs will be against the Spurs this postseason..

Spurs fans will be the ones crying like little bitches when they get eliminated by the Denver Nuggets

[Shank]

Duncan didn't read Crawford the riot act in the media either. Yeah he said vendetta and all that, but he didn't swear when discussing the matter and was pretty professional about the whole thing I thought. Not exactly how Stackhouse handled his ejection in the playoffs.

While he may have controlled himself after the game, he still looked bad mouthing all of those profanities toward Crawford on national TV.

[atxrocker]

he got what was coming to him. right move from the nba.

[aaronstampler]

While he may have controlled himself after the game, he still looked bad mouthing all of those profanities toward Crawford on national TV.

I can't think of a single NBA superstar who'd have reacted differently to being ejected while laughing on the bench in a game against their rivals.

[ALVAREZ6]

Woot woot


That's fuckin right douche bag Joey Crawford.

[nkdlunch]

I still think Duncan is a whiney child and if he'd been complaining consistently throughout the game (as he usually does) then yeah the ref has every right to T him up.

That said, the fact that Crawford challenged him to a fight is beyond absurd. It doesn't make Tim any less of a whiner, but it does seriously call into question Crawford's judgment.

what do you think about Mark Cuban?

[DubMcDub]

Duncan didn't read Crawford the riot act in the media either. Yeah he said vendetta and all that, but he didn't swear when discussing the matter and was pretty professional about the whole thing I thought. Not exactly how Stackhouse handled his ejection in the playoffs. ...

....Cuban and the Mavs players constantly give the league an out by acting like jackasses after every bad call.

:lol

First of all, Stackhouse was never even ejected in the playoffs. He committed a hard foul in Game 4 of the Finals and got suspended later for Game 5. But I'd like to hear more from you about how he handled his non-existent ejection.

And the Spurs players act like jackasses just as much if not MORE than any of the Mavs players after calls that they don't like. Duncan's big eyed "who me" routine follows after literally every foul called against him.

Take off the silver and black glasses man.

[DubMcDub]

what do you think about Mark Cuban?

He's whiney too. But he's not a player. Duncan, especially given his stature in the league, should be held to a much higher standard.

[01Snake]

Go kick an exercise bike.

[Shank]

what do you think about Mark Cuban?

Why are you trying to deflect this? This situation is handled. Why even bring Cuban into this topic unless it's just to be the typical ass that you are?

[Voice of Truth]

Sorry but there are plenty of mad men referees left for the playoffs ... Javie, Garrettson, Bavetta, Nies, among others ...

Watch out!!

The Wrath of the ref will be coming soon to a barn called the AT&T Center.

But seriously, Spurs fans will be crying and on suicide watch late April

[FromWayDowntown]

I think the message today is pretty clear: players are accountable through the officiating, but officials are accountable through the league, which is perfectly willing to publicly discipline one of its best-known officials and to punish him severely for acting maliciously.

I don't think there will be reprecussions against the Spurs from the Brotherhood -- at least nothing overt -- during the playoffs. I suspect that anything that appears to be aimed at exacting vengeance against the Spurs will be dealt with as well. That's not to say that the officials have been instructed or will be expected to bail the Spurs out or to tilt calls in the Spurs' favor.

Ultimately, the Spurs have zero to do with Crawford's plight -- nothing, at least, beyond Tim Duncan's willingness to step out on a limb and articulate what seemed pretty clear on Sunday afternoon.

[Testing]

As ridiculous as the call Crawford made was...it seems a little unfair that Duncan gets away with a $25,000 fine for his post game comments, which let's face it is chump change for him.

In the PR statement Stern sites Crawford's inability to use professionalism as it relates to his job as one of the reasons for the severe punishment. Duncan clearing cursing out an official, showing him disrespect, and creating a scene as he's leaving all on national TV is not exactly professionalism. I think Duncan's actions...specifically after he was ejected warrant at least a one game suspension. Kids were watching that game as Duncan clearly is screaming "F*uck You" and "You piece of S*it" as he's leaving the floor. That's not "meeting the standards of professionalism" from a basketball player standpoint either.

[ducks]

As ridiculous as the call Crawford made was...it seems a little unfair that Duncan gets away with a $25,000 fine for his post game comments, which let's face it is chump change for him.

In the PR statement Stern sites Crawford's inability to use professionalism as it relates to his job as one of the reasons for the severe punishment. Duncan clearing cursing out an official, showing him disrespect, and creating a scene as he's leaving all on national TV is not exactly professionalism. I think Duncan's actions...specifically after he was ejected warrant at least a one game suspension. Kids were watching that game as Duncan clearly is screaming "F*uck You" and "You piece of S*it" as he's leaving the floor. That's not "meeting the standards of professionalism" from a basketball player standpoint either.
where do you work? they say that in corp america all the time

[angel_luv]

Timmy shouldn't have cussed, especially since as you said, kids were watching and it is a bad example.

However I thought the fine had to do with his comments about the vendetta not his language to Crawbabyford.

[ManuMagic]

As ridiculous as the call Crawford made was...it seems a little unfair that Duncan gets away with a $25,000 fine for his post game comments, which let's face it is chump change for him.

In the PR statement Stern sites Crawford's inability to use professionalism as it relates to his job as one of the reasons for the severe punishment. Duncan clearing cursing out an official, showing him disrespect, and creating a scene as he's leaving all on national TV is not exactly professionalism. I think Duncan's actions...specifically after he was ejected warrant at least a one game suspension. Kids were watching that game as Duncan clearly is screaming "F*uck You" and "You piece of S*it" as he's leaving the floor. That's not "meeting the standards of professionalism" from a basketball player standpoint either.

I don't think anyone has ever been suspended for cursing, but the fine was definitely justified due to the reason you just stated

[ducks]

kids hear cursing going to mcdonalds

he should not but to act like they have not heard it is stupid

[ALVAREZ6]

Watch out!!

The Wrath of the ref will be coming soon to a barn called the AT&T Center.

But seriously, Spurs fans will be crying and on suicide watch late AprilYou act like Spurs fans don't have a right to bitch about the officials.

Last year in the WCF, the refs literally gave Dallas the series. Bavetta was terrible, like Crawford, only through a 7-game period.

[aaronstampler]

As ridiculous as the call Crawford made was...it seems a little unfair that Duncan gets away with a $25,000 fine for his post game comments, which let's face it is chump change for him.

In the PR statement Stern sites Crawford's inability to use professionalism as it relates to his job as one of the reasons for the severe punishment. Duncan clearing cursing out an official, showing him disrespect, and creating a scene as he's leaving all on national TV is not exactly professionalism. I think Duncan's actions...specifically after he was ejected warrant at least a one game suspension. Kids were watching that game as Duncan clearly is screaming "F*uck You" and "You piece of S*it" as he's leaving the floor. That's not "meeting the standards of professionalism" from a basketball player standpoint either.


Well I guess you got your wish then, because he didn't play yesterday.

[timvp]

In the PR statement Stern sites Crawford's inability to use professionalism as it relates to his job as one of the reasons for the severe punishment. Duncan clearing cursing out an official, showing him disrespect, and creating a scene as he's leaving all on national TV is not exactly professionalism. I think Duncan's actions...specifically after he was ejected warrant at least a one game suspension. Kids were watching that game as Duncan clearly is screaming "F*uck You" and "You piece of S*it" as he's leaving the floor. That's not "meeting the standards of professionalism" from a basketball player standpoint either.

:lol

You do realize that Kobe cusses out officials every game. What Duncan said to Crawford is an every game phrase for Kobe. No one is known to use more foul language around the league than KB24.

Nice try.

[Testing]

Timmy shouldn't have cussed, especially since as you said, kids were watching and it is a bad example.

However I thought the fine had to do with his comments about the vendetta not his language.


Yes, I know that...my statement wasn't about that. My point being if Stern is accusing Crawford of not meeting the standards of professionalism in the game...then Duncan's in game action (not the laughing, etc.) but the cursing out at the official and creating a scene as he's leaving isn't professional either. Why no suspension for that?

[mVp]

joey, you better dont mess with timmy again :lol

stern, i think i love you :clap

[BeerIsGood!]

kids hear cursing going to mcdonalds

he should not but to act like they have not heard it is stupid

that's not a good excuse - he shouldn't have yelled what he did regardless of what kids hear at McDonalds

[FromWayDowntown]

Yes, I know that...my statement wasn't about that. My point being if Stern is accusing Crawford of not meeting the standards of professionalism in the game...then Duncan's in game action (not the laughing, etc.) but the cursing out at the official and creating a scene as he's leaving isn't professional either. Why no suspension for that?

Because players who fail to leave the court in an orderly fashion are almost never suspended but are always fined.

[cornbread]

As ridiculous as the call Crawford made was...it seems a little unfair that Duncan gets away with a $25,000 fine for his post game comments, which let's face it is chump change for him.

In the PR statement Stern sites Crawford's inability to use professionalism as it relates to his job as one of the reasons for the severe punishment. Duncan clearing cursing out an official, showing him disrespect, and creating a scene as he's leaving all on national TV is not exactly professionalism. I think Duncan's actions...specifically after he was ejected warrant at least a one game suspension. Kids were watching that game as Duncan clearly is screaming "F*uck You" and "You piece of S*it" as he's leaving the floor. That's not "meeting the standards of professionalism" from a basketball player standpoint either.
I would have to agree. I think the 25K fine is a little paltry considering everything that took place. The cussing as Tim left the game was pretty disappointing for me. We usually don't see that type of display from Spurs players but then again, none of the Spurs players have ever been ejected for such an absurd reason. I'll be happy when this fiasco is out of the headlines.

[DubMcDub]

You act like Spurs fans don't have a right to bitch about the officials.

Last year in the WCF, the refs literally gave Dallas the series. Bavetta was terrible, like Crawford, only through a 7-game period.

Indeed they did....

-Like when they didn't call the blatant foul on Bowen during Dirk's potential game winner in game 5.

-And when Tim Duncan had more FT attempts 3 quarter into Game 7 than the entire Mavericks team.

-And when Devin Harris got mugged on his way to the basket over and over and over in Game 6 and couldn't buy a call.


...not that any of those things matter. The only "bad calls" that count, of course, are the ones that go against the Spurs. Right? :rolleyes

[DannyT]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/dt372001/Family_Fishing.jpg

its a start
:drunk :smokin

[FromWayDowntown]

I think the relatively small fine has a lot to do with the sense that at least some of what Tim said was justified and that the ejection was wrongful in the first place.

I'll join the chorus in reiterating my belief that Tim was out of line on Sunday. With that said, though, there are plenty of mitigating factors in this case and it appears to me at least that when the NBA did its due diligence on the incident, it decided that the mitigating factors weighed rather heavily in Timmy's favor.

[Shank]

Indeed they did....

-Like when they didn't call the blatant foul on Bowen during Dirk's potential game winner in game 5.

-And when Tim Duncan had more FT attempts 3 quarter into Game 7 than the entire Mavericks team.

-And when Devin Harris got mugged on his way to the basket over and over and over in Game 6 and couldn't buy a call.


...not that any of those things matter. The only "bad calls" that count, of course, are the ones that go against the Spurs. Right? :rolleyes

There's really no need to get into this.

[FromWayDowntown]

Indeed they did....

-Like when they didn't call the blatant foul on Bowen during Dirk's potential game winner in game 5.

-And when Tim Duncan had more FT attempts 3 quarter into Game 7 than the entire Mavericks team.

-And when Devin Harris got mugged on his way to the basket over and over and over in Game 6 and couldn't buy a call.


...not that any of those things matter. The only "bad calls" that count, of course, are the ones that go against the Spurs. Right? :rolleyes

Ah, here we go again.

[howbouthemspurs]

That is so freakin awesome!

[spurfan 21]

stern did say on OTL that crawford might quit because he still thinks he was right for what he did to duncan. And thinks stern was not right for suspending him so if he has any pride im thinking he is quitting for good. so no more crawford

[BeerIsGood!]

Indeed they did....

-Like when they didn't call the blatant foul on Bowen during Dirk's potential game winner in game 5. Since when is getting your hand on top of the ball a foul?
-And when Tim Duncan had more FT attempts 3 quarter into Game 7 than the entire Mavericks team. The difference were the horrible calls in the last 6 minutes of the 4th in games 3 and 4 that really made the difference. All calls at pivot point of the close games went the mavs way, even obvious fouls that were not called.
-And when Devin Harris got mugged on his way to the basket over and over and over in Game 6 and couldn't buy a call. Now I know you are full of it. The Spurs lineups were too small inside to mug anybody :lol

[Rummpd]

My pride and respect for the NBA and Stern is restored.

[J.T.]

Justice.

[ALVAREZ6]

My pride and respect for the NBA and Stern is restored.I wouldn't exactly say it's restored for me. That's pushing it too far.


But still, I didn't expect this from Stern, so I give him a :tu , strictly on this issue.

[ManuMagic]

My pride and respect for the NBA and Stern is restored.

It'll take a lot more than this for me to respect what Stern has done with the officials. IMO this is just the tip of the iceberg as far as whipping the NBA officials into shape goes

[Tippecanoe]

haha, suck it joey

[ploto]

I don't know which games you have been going to, but the Spurs cuss plenty. Lots of players do it. If you think this is the first time Tim has said F&$% during a game, then you live in Never-Never land. You would lose count if you tried to keep track of how many times players say something is BS in the course of one NBA game.

[ducks]

David Stern (on Camera, looking stern): There was an egregious violation of the game management here by an individual who had been specifically addressed on this very subject by me, and I did what I thought I had to do.

Further, Stern offered this as well:

David Stern: In fairness, I would say that, he doesn't think he did anything wrong, and you know, probably doesn't wish to work in the NBA anymore.

it is on espn!

[Testing]

:lol

You do realize that Kobe cusses out officials every game. What Duncan said to Crawford is an every game phrase for Kobe. No one is known to use more foul language around the league than KB24.

Nice try.


And if Kobe was doing as he was being escorted out by security after being ejected from the game on National TV...I'd say he was acting unprofessional and should (and most likely would) get suspended for at least one game.


I'm saying if the reasoning Stern is giving is becuase Crawford didn't meet "the standards of professionalism" than I don't think Duncan did either.

Nice Try. I'm not a biased homer fan like you.

[ploto]

I am not clear as to why Spurs fans are so excited about no Joey Crawford. Do you really want more Bavetta and Nies?

[nkdlunch]

David Stern (on Camera, looking stern): There was an egregious violation of the game management here by an individual who had been specifically addressed on this very subject by me, and I did what I thought I had to do.

Further, Stern offered this as well:

David Stern: In fairness, I would say that, he doesn't think he did anything wrong, and you know, probably doesn't wish to work in the NBA anymore.

it is on espn!

He is gone for good. book it

what a fucking stubborn asshole. I hope he does not get a contract on Timmy. that fucking asshole.

Time for you to ref your grandkids' PS3 games bitch!

[LilMissSPURfect]

back to business now

[nkdlunch]

I am not clear as to why Spurs fans are so excited about no Joey Crawford. Do you really want more Bavetta and Nies?

because he fucked with our homeboy Timmy that's why. duh

[ducks]

NBA Suspends Referee Crawford for Tim Duncan Ejection
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aqdZxxCqQ9C4&refer=home
By Scott Soshnick

April 17 (Bloomberg) -- The National Basketball Association suspended referee Joe Crawford at least through the playoffs after his ejection of San Antonio's Tim Duncan in a game against Dallas two days ago.

Duncan was ejected from the Spurs' 91-86 loss after receiving his second technical foul while sitting on the bench and laughing. After the game, he said Crawford, in his 31st NBA season, challenged him to a fight.

A statement from the NBA today said Crawford was punished ``for improper conduct toward Tim Duncan,'' including the second technical and ejection.

``Joey Crawford's handling of this situation failed to meet the standards of professionalism and game management we expect of NBA referees,'' NBA Commissioner David Stern said. ``Especially in light of similar prior acts by this official, a significant suspension is warranted.''

Lamell McMorris, head of the National Basketball Referees Association, and Lon Babby, Duncan's agent, declined to comment.

Crawford has refereed 266 playoff games and 38 NBA Finals games, the most among active officials. He also has a reputation as being quick to give technical fouls.

NBA referees must be re-hired each season based on performance evaluations. A 20-year official makes about $300,000 annually, the referees' association said.

Crawford, 55, in an e-mail to league officials and colleagues, summarized his telephone conversation with Stu Jackson, the NBA's executive vice president for basketball operations, who oversees the referees.

`Do It Again'

``I told him I would throw Duncan out again if he did what he did,'' Crawford said in the e-mail, a copy of which was obtained by Bloomberg News. ``So if my employer does not think that was acceptable, then I have a problem.''

Crawford declined to comment on the e-mail. Jackson through a league spokeswoman declined comment.

After the game, Crawford told a pool reporter that Duncan, 30, had been complaining the entire contest.

Stern said the league would have more discussions with Crawford ``to be sure he understands his responsibilities.''

The meeting to discuss reinstatement will take place after the playoffs, Crawford said in his e-mail.

`Personal Vendetta'

Duncan, who had 16 points and seven rebounds when he was ejected, said Crawford has a ``personal vendetta'' against him.

``He looked at me and said, `Do you want to fight? Do you want to fight?''' said Duncan, a two-time NBA Most Valuable Player.

It was the second ejection of Duncan's 10-year career. The first one, in 2002, came after an exchange with Minnesota's Kevin Garnett. Both players were ejected and the suspensions were subsequently rescinded by the league office.

``Please do not be sad for me,'' Crawford wrote in his e- mail. ``I have had a great run and a great career and nobody will ever take that from me.''

[ducks]

Crawford Is Done!
CRAWFORD MUST SEEK MEDICAL HELP!

[cornbread]

I don't know which games you have been going to, but the Spurs cuss plenty. Lots of players do it. If you think this is the first time Tim has said F&$% during a game, then you live in Never-Never land. You would lose count if you tried to keep track of how many times players say something is BS in the course of one NBA game.

You're twisting this around so you can make people sound hypocritical.

Tim Duncan getting ejected and looking a ref in the face while calling him a "fucking piece of shit" is not typical for a Spurs game. This is FAR different than saying something is BS.

[mardigan]

So I guess he is done for good in the league. Guy seems like he has too much pride to come back

[atxrocker]

i'd still bet he comes back

[2centsworth]

Crawford has way to big an ego. Too bad because he's a pretty good ref.

[DubMcDub]

There's really no need to get into this.

He brought it up. I'll respond in kind.

[cheguevara]

:lmao ESPN poll:


1) Was the NBA right to suspend Joey Crawford?
87.8% Yes
12.2% No

2) Was Crawford right to eject Tim Duncan?
90.2% No
9.8% Yes

3) What would be the appropriate punishment for Crawford?
49.7% Suspended through playoffs
17.6% He should be fired
14.1% Suspended for remainder of regular season
8.8% A warning
7.3% Suspended through playoffs and part of next season
2.5% Nothing

4) Do NBA referees have too much control over a game's outcome?
78.6% Yes
21.4% No

5) Do you believe NBA referees hold personal grudges against certain players?
72.2% Yes, but only a handful of bad refs
19.3% Yes, most all of them
8.5% No

6) Who would win in a fight?
88.4% Tim Duncan
11.6% Joey Crawford :lol

[mavsfan1000]

Duncan's whining finally pays off. Congrats on screwing Crawford's refing career. Superstar treatment lives on. Maybe Wade can fire a ref he doesn't like as well.

[Duncanoypi]

^its a sad day for dallas fans....

[SpursWoman]

Duncan's whining finally pays off. Congrats on screwing Crawford's refing career. Superstar treatment lives on. Maybe Wade can fire a ref he doesn't like as well.



ROFLMMFAO!


I was going to start a poll on the over/under on the number of posts it would take before someone posted this exact thing!

:lmao

[lilmads]

Yay! Justice... I am surprised tho that they actually suspended him for the rest of the season... I thought maybe a few games but I guess he deserved what was coming

[jaespur21]

ha the wicked witch is dead...........Goodbye JC
Good Riddance HO

[baseline bum]

Duncan's whining finally pays off. Congrats on screwing Crawford's refing career. Superstar treatment lives on. Maybe Wade can fire a ref he doesn't like as well.

Think of it this way. It's one extra spot for Dan Crawford to fill in your playoff games. :toast

[mardigan]

Duncan's whining finally pays off. Congrats on screwing Crawford's refing career. Superstar treatment lives on. Maybe Wade can fire a ref he doesn't like as well.
Another bang up job from my favorite idiot poster. Pay yourself on the back mijo, job well done

[beirmeistr]

Rumor is that Joey Crawford is in talks with Adam Sandler about shooting Anger management, Part 2

[mVp]

stern did say on OTL that crawford might quit because he still thinks he was right for what he did to duncan. And thinks stern was not right for suspending him so if he has any pride im thinking he is quitting for good. so no more crawford

two T's for crawford

[cheguevara]

mavfan, go with the theory that Crawford had the real info on 9/11 conspiracy and had to be shut up :lmao

[tlongII]

Excellent move by Stern. That was just a ridiculous call. It may have cost the Spurs HCA in the 2nd round, but we'll never know. It took a player of Tim Duncan's stature to get this kind of result. The Blazers were routinely screwed by the refs, but Stern never did anything since we had Sheed.

[TDMVPDPOY]

tim duncan is fuckn god, no fuckn clown is going to mess with sumone who is superior to god,

TIM DUNCAN PWNS U JOEBLOW

[mardigan]

I really didnt think that Stern had the balls for this, good job commish, now if you could just do something about Devin Harris' flopping :p:

[judaspriestess]

damn those whiney Spurs :rolleyes

David Stern said that Tim Duncan has always been a class act!

[TDMVPDPOY]

this is the first time a ref has been tossed, and tim duncan made it...

this is the tim duncan rule, ROLFMAO = tech foul....

[baseline bum]

I thought Jack O'Donnel was the first ref to be fired for shit like this. That guy was such an asshole.

[ponky]

this is the first time a ref has been tossed, and tim duncan made it...

this is the tim duncan rule, ROLFMAO = tech foul....

no it isn't, learn some history


anyway, this is great news! looks like he will be back next season from the way the articles read but still, i'm glad he's not reffing the playoffs.

[Extra Stout]

this is the first time a ref has been tossed, and tim duncan made it...

this is the tim duncan rule, ROLFMAO = tech foul....
Jake O' Donnell. Rook up wikipedia on the intelnet.

[timvp]

Rook up wikipedia on the intelnet.

Harsh. Uncalled for.

But yeah I laughed.

[Extra Stout]

Harsh. Uncalled for.

But yeah I laughed.
CBS Radio just told me I'm fired.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Harsh. Uncalled for.

But yeah I laughed.

Hell, I laughed...and I'm an internet Asian.

[LuvBones]

Oh yeah.. justice has been served!!! :toast