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Voice of Truth
04-23-2007, 02:24 AM
Spurs are on their way out
By Matt Kizzla
With a 95-89 victory everybody else in basketball will regard as an upset, the Nuggets sent an unmistakable, undeniable message to Tim Duncan and the once-great San Antonio Spurs.
It's over for you.
It has been a great run by the Spurs, including three NBA championships, but it's done.
If Sunday's victory by the Nuggets in the postseason opener was so shocking, why didn't anyone in the visiting locker room look surprised?
After Denver claimed Game 1 in this best-of-seven series, someone asked center Marcus Camby if it was reason to party.
"We're not content," Camby insisted. "We ain't happy."
"That's what I'm talking about, M.C.," chimed in Jack Murphy, the team's video coordinator. "We're businessmen on a trip, here to do a job. We don't need to celebrate."
I'm not saying this series is over.
And the Nuggets certainly know better than to count out San Antonio.
"We know how serious it is," Nuggets point guard Allen Iverson said.
But what was revealed Sunday night is the Spurs are too thin, too gray and too vulnerable to be considered real threats to win it all.
So Denver might as well knock them out now and save San Antonio the inevitable disappointment down the road.
After Duncan clanked shot after shot under relentless defensive pressure by Nene, the normally unflappable San Antonio superstar was spied during the first half rubbing hands across his mug like a fuming child who could not believe what was happening to him.
"You're playing against a Hall of Fame player, and you can't stop a guy like that, all you can do is contain him," Iverson said of the intensity Nene employed to rattle Duncan. "Nene did a great job of just taking the challenge."
If Mr. Robot Face is what you normally see from Duncan, then his display of frustration means the Spurs are in real danger, Will Robinson.
After watching Carmelo Anthony and Iverson combine for 61 points, taking over at crunch time in a raucous arena, you must acknowledge Denver possesses as much or more talent than the Spurs.
There's only one Bruce Bowen, San Antonio's designated defensive pest, and he cannot be a gnat buzzing in the ears of Anthony and Iverson at the same time.
Once, as every bone in the body of San Antonio big-shot artist Robert Horry creaked as he raised himself from splatting on the floor, I swear you could see the AARP card slip from his pocket. The Spurs are old. They're ornery. They won't go quietly. But their roster has too much mileage to make a long playoff run.
Maybe the only thing really shocking about Denver's victory was how workmanlike it was.
Unlike two years ago, when the Nuggets teased us by stealing the opening playoff game in San Antonio when Andre Miller played out of his head and the Spurs missed 17 shots in a row, Denver has found a new formula capable of repeat success.
This time, the dream of winning a playoff series for the first time since 1994 is real.
Anthony and Iverson, not Duncan and Spurs point guard Tony Parker, were the best two players on the court.
It was the Nuggets who appeared more composed with the game on the line, going on an 11-0 run late in the fourth quarter to take control.
"We didn't panic," said Iverson, who started slowly only to score eight crucial points in the final period.
After trading for Iverson in December, it took so long for the Nuggets to find an identity and learn player roles that you worried they might run out of name tags.
"We had some struggles. But there's nothing you can do to fast-track things," Denver vice president of player personnel Rex Chapman said.
The pain of discovery is paying dividends now.
The Nuggets are no longer a classic running team. Those rainbow uniforms are in mothballs, and the soft running jumper of Alex English is a fading memory.
But, maybe, just maybe, Iverson has taught the Nuggets how to win the gutter fights and halfcourt battles in the dirty little wars that define playoff basketball.
What is that annoying chant fans scream incessantly in San Antonio's arena?
Go, Spurs, go.
And turn out the lights when you leave.
jmard5
04-23-2007, 02:27 AM
It's over for only just one game?
C'mon. *lol*
Amuseddaysleeper
04-23-2007, 02:29 AM
I actually had to look this article up to see if it was real
You'd think this was taken off of some Nugget fan's blog.
Pitiful
Kori Ellis
04-23-2007, 02:30 AM
The Nuggets writers are funny.
T Park
04-23-2007, 02:30 AM
This aint some dude like, writing from his college dorm room is it?
L.I.T
04-23-2007, 02:33 AM
I almost wish this series will go the distance, just so my days can continue to be livened up by what passes for sports journalism in Denver.
THE SIXTH MAN
04-23-2007, 02:37 AM
:lmao That was a very entertaining read.
aaronstampler
04-23-2007, 02:48 AM
This aint some dude like, writing from his college dorm room is it?
Nope, that's just me. :depressed This idiot actually gets paid to do this.
Dude can't even spell his last name right and he thinks he's seen the end? Please.
Obstructed_View
04-23-2007, 03:08 AM
I've never seen a clearer example of the following three words:
Premature ejaculation forum.
Kori Ellis
04-23-2007, 03:10 AM
Link for anyone who is wondering if it's real: http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_5728864
Cry Havoc
04-23-2007, 03:11 AM
What does that mean about the Mavs? They looked worse than the Spurs did tonight. Are they too old and grey too, or is that just their coach? :lol
Both teams had sat their starters for the better part of a week. It's not shocking that they come out flat in the first game.
Game 2 will be much more telling. I'd rather win 2 than 1 anyway, because it can give us momentum going into Denver. And now we know what the Nuggets are going to do to beat us.
Go, Spurs, Go. Right down the Riverwalk with several shiny pieces of metal with you.
jaespur21
04-23-2007, 03:14 AM
WOW did i just read that?
Finally, someone got Nuggets video coordinator Jack Murphy's take on game one. That's what Kizla brings to sports journalism, and we're damn proud.
Nbadan
04-23-2007, 03:56 AM
Well, Spurs are on their way out, just not by the Nuggets.
RuffnReadyOzStyle
04-23-2007, 04:24 AM
It's over for you.
It has been a great run by the Spurs, including three NBA championships, but it's done.
If Sunday's victory by the Nuggets in the postseason opener was so shocking, why didn't anyone in the visiting locker room look surprised?
After Denver claimed Game 1 in this best-of-seven series, someone asked center Marcus Camby if it was reason to party.
"We're not content," Camby insisted. "We ain't happy."
"That's what I'm talking about, M.C.," chimed in Jack Murphy, the team's video coordinator. "We're businessmen on a trip, here to do a job. We don't need to celebrate."
I'm not saying this series is over.
King of contradiction, no? His words don't actually make any sense.
This guy writes like he thinks he's hilarious, but it's just poor writing.
Ugh.
Sadly, he's right about one thing - we looked bloody OLD tonight. That is all the credit I can give this clown though.
cambrad
04-23-2007, 04:51 AM
Go, Spurs, Go. lol
ShoogarBear
04-23-2007, 04:52 AM
The Nuggets writers are pathetic.Fixed.
cambrad
04-23-2007, 05:04 AM
Can I have $50000 vbookie cash if the Nuggets win the series?
joeyjfive
04-23-2007, 05:04 AM
Poor guy, I know in his heart, he doesnt believe the Nuggets can win. Funny article though.
What's funny is how much read you guys are giving him. Two threads for Kiz!!
This guy reminds me of Jeff Vexler after we beat the Mavs in Game 1 last year. The fool was talking sweep and all kinds of madness, and look how that series turned out. This douchebag is going to be surprised at how different a Spurs team the Nuggets face in Game 2. When any of the big 3 have a bad game, they bounce back the next night. I would not want to be the Nuggets on Wednesday night facing a bounceback from Tim, Tony and Manu at the same time as they combine for 60, perhaps more.
Gerryatrics
04-23-2007, 05:28 AM
Sounds like a Hoopsworld writer, pretty pathetic.
That article was too slanting of the facts and context of happenings to deserve a column. I'm thinking about the writer more than the article while reading because he's trying so hard to make it believable that you can see him coaxing himself while he's writing it. That and the major contradiction Matt pointed out makes the guy at best a really bad shock columnist.
WalterBenitez
04-23-2007, 05:32 AM
The Nuggets writers are funny.
I am translating funny to spanish as a synonim of stupid
:rolleyes
SpursWoman
04-23-2007, 05:52 AM
I am translating funny to spanish as a synonim of stupid
:rolleyes
:tu :lol
Voice of Truth
04-23-2007, 07:20 AM
hOW COME THIS ONE WAS EDITED??
George Gervin's Afro
04-23-2007, 07:40 AM
Does anyone realize this guy writes this to rile people up? He is entitled to his opinion.. What I would like to know if he is that much of Spur hater or that big of a Nuggets fan? If you feed this guy he will further needle you..
nkdlunch
04-23-2007, 08:23 AM
hahaah over after game 1?
how can someone be so publicly stupid. what a moron
bdictjames
04-23-2007, 08:46 AM
Pathetic.
tlongII
04-23-2007, 08:51 AM
He makes a lot of good points.
Jimcs50
04-23-2007, 08:51 AM
I have stated this already, months ago. TD's championship days are over.
Nice while it lasted.
:depressed
dbreiden83080
04-23-2007, 09:29 AM
Spurs are on their way out
By Matt Kizzla
But what was revealed Sunday night is the Spurs are too thin, too gray and too vulnerable to be considered real threats to win it all.
So what does it say for the Mavs losing again to the Warriors? Spurs played one bad game and they will come back. We'll see what these idiot writers are saying when the series is tied 1-1 and the Spurs are up late in the 4th in Denver for game 3.
Phonzie20
04-23-2007, 09:29 AM
That was an embarrassing article.
Sorry guys
Extra Stout
04-23-2007, 09:33 AM
Well, to be fair, he didn't say the series was over, he merely said the Spurs' run of winning NBA titles is over
DarrinS
04-23-2007, 09:33 AM
As bad as the Spurs played, the Nuggets should have won by 20 points.
Do the Nuggets really think Tim will go 0-6 in the first quarter again?
Phonzie20
04-23-2007, 09:37 AM
As bad as the Spurs played, the Nuggets should have won by 20 points.
Do the Nuggets really think Tim will go 0-6 in the first quarter again?
We never said so.
yankeespur
04-23-2007, 09:40 AM
Unlike two years ago, when the Nuggets teased us by stealing the opening playoff game in San Antonio when Andre Miller played out of his head and the Spurs missed 17 shots in a row, Denver has found a new formula capable of repeat success.
New formula? Sub the name Nene for 'dre and 3 for 50 or what ever the hell it was for the 17 missed shots and it sounds the same to me.
Phonzie20
04-23-2007, 09:41 AM
New formula? Sub the name Nene for 'dre and 3 for 50 or what ever the hell it was for the 17 missed shots and it sounds the same to me.
Yes many a missed shot. I know we stole one.
dbreiden83080
04-23-2007, 09:56 AM
It really is funny how one game and all the media is saying Spurs are done. Some idiot from SI doing first and ten with Skip Bayless on Cold Pizza was just going on and on how the Spurs are old and losing this series. I expect a game 2 that competitive but after they win it hopefully some people will come back down to reality a little bit.
wildbill2u
04-23-2007, 10:19 AM
We may not be through--but we aren't going to win the Championship by dominating other teams, because we aren't that damn good.
The Denver team simply took us out of our game on our homecourt on both offense and defense. We didn't look like a veteran team of champions.
spursfan09
04-23-2007, 10:25 AM
OH my god. It was just one game. The Spurs and Tim Duncan especially are gonna play way better in game 2. Its common sense. I will not truly be worried until we go down 0-2 and go back to Denver. Even then, I still wouldn't count the Spurs out, because well its the Spurs.
Phonzie20
04-23-2007, 10:37 AM
'
We didn't look like a veteran team of champions.
nope
Budkin
04-23-2007, 10:40 AM
I can't wait to read his article after they are eliminated.
Поповић
04-23-2007, 10:40 AM
The Spurs have had worse home games in the 1st round before they won a championship. Only idiots and Nuggets fans (er, I repeat myself) think they are doomed.
Cry Havoc
04-23-2007, 10:41 AM
Many have been saying that Game 2 is more important all along. Lots of teams struggle when rusty but rested. Anyone remember the start the Mavs and Suns had this year in the regular season? Same principle. It wouldn't surpise me to see the Mavs go down 2-0 in a close game and dominate the next four.
It takes at LEAST a game to get back to NBA speed if you've been resting. Duncan was clearly off and forgot how to post up.
Game 2 will be very interesting. If the Spurs win, they go to Denver with a tied series and the momentum. A bit better than winning game 1 and dropping the second.
Spurminator
04-23-2007, 10:41 AM
I can't wait to read his article after they are eliminated.
"Oh yeah? Well, you're gonna lose to Phoenix anyway" by Mark Kiszla
pad300
04-23-2007, 10:49 AM
Can I have $50000 vbookie cash if the Nuggets win the series?
I'd toss my support behind your begging, but before I do I want to know what you'll do to pay off the debt if you lose? What are you willing to put on the line for Kori to give you 50K?
A permanent user title - "The Nuggets Suck Dead Dog Dick!"
Your right to post in the Spurs forum?
Pictures for the photoshop types to work with?
GrandeDavid
04-23-2007, 11:06 AM
Spurs are on their way out
By Matt Kizzla
1. It has been a great run by the Spurs, including three NBA championships, but it's done.
Coming from a local beat writer of a team which has not won a playoff series in well over a decade, I'm not exactly convinced of the credibility of such a vague, seat of the pants statement.
2. If Sunday's victory by the Nuggets in the postseason opener was so shocking, why didn't anyone in the visiting locker room look surprised?
I hope the Nuggets didn't look surprised! They are supposed to be PROFESSIONALS, and being that they are used to getting pushed around and kicked out in the first round, they'd better not be celebrating!
3. "We're not content," Camby insisted. "We ain't happy."
So? At least his grammar was correct in the first sentence. I would also be unhappy if I were an overrated former top pick reduced to role player role on a team which will not sniff a championship in his lifetime.
4. "That's what I'm talking about, M.C.," chimed in Jack Murphy, the team's video coordinator. "We're businessmen on a trip, here to do a job. We don't need to celebrate."
The video coordinator said that. Great. Is this beat writer serious including such quotes in this piece? Note to the overly enthusiastic employee, it is a "business trip" even during the regular season. After all "M.C." and yourself are being paid to do what you do. I suppose I'll start shouting "that's what I'm talking about" every time I make a business trip in Brazil, although I'll say it in Portuguese.
5. I'm not saying this series is over.
You just did. Stop writing on the fly, letting your emotions instead of your brain punch your keyboard. How this guy pulls a check for writing such garbage is beyond me.
6. But what was revealed Sunday night is the Spurs are too thin, too gray and too vulnerable to be considered real threats to win it all.
Again, look at the source of this comment. The Spurs are young enough at their key positions and play in a well defined system. They can run or play halfcourt. This statement is, again, another endless example of this beat writer's overuse of generalities and emotional statements.
7. After Duncan clanked shot after shot under relentless defensive pressure by Nene, the normally unflappable San Antonio superstar was spied during the first half rubbing hands across his mug like a fuming child who could not believe what was happening to him.
Duncan also shot poorly in 2005. Guys have off nights. He was rubbing his mug because he is a perennial championship contender who has been there before. He is a super professional at the helm of the winningest franchise in professional sports over the past decade plus. When you are playing atrociously against a team you should sweep, its frustrating. But as the Spurs and Duncan always do, they will bounce back and bring Denver back down to Earth and yet another first round exit.
8. If Mr. Robot Face is what you normally see from Duncan, then his display of frustration means the Spurs are in real danger, Will Robinson.
Mr. Robot Face? This guy gets paid to use childish names against professionals? Does this beat writer's fishwrap employer allow him to turn in his articles scribbled in nice, colorful crayon?
9. After watching Carmelo Anthony and Iverson combine for 61 points, taking over at crunch time in a raucous arena, you must acknowledge Denver possesses as much or more talent than the Spurs.
It was one game. Is this clown serious? This beat writer fails miserably to realize that this is the parity driven NBA, so "talent" is abound on most teams. However, it is the intangibles like discipline, team play and heart which win championships. The Spurs have these qualities in bountiful quantity. The Anthony led Nuggets continue to backpedal away from championship quality. So enjoy the talent!
10. Unlike two years ago, when the Nuggets teased us by stealing the opening playoff game in San Antonio when Andre Miller played out of his head and the Spurs missed 17 shots in a row, Denver has found a new formula capable of repeat success.
I'd love to hear it, because I am unconvinced. The Nuggets definitely stole Game 1 of this year's matchup as well. The Spurs played awful yet still managed to go up five in the third. The Nuggets stole this game and deserve credit for having done so. Let's see what happens in Game 2.
11. This time, the dream of winning a playoff series for the first time since 1994 is real.
I would certainly hope that any fan of any team which qualifies for the playoffs sees their winning of a measly playoffs series as "real". Yet another vague, meaningless drop in the bucket statement. I think this guy was drinking when he crayoned this article.
12. Anthony and Iverson, not Duncan and Spurs point guard Tony Parker, were the best two players on the court.
And sticks and stones may break my bones but words....okay, having alreadly acknowledged what a talentless child this beat writer is, I'll respond seriously to this point by recalling how much hardware both Duncan and Parker have in comparison to those two. In one game those two players were the best players on the court. Let's ask in a week if they were the best players in the series.
13. What is that annoying chant fans scream incessantly in San Antonio's arena?
The Spurs' arena announcer guy is definitely in need of a replacement. The weak, embarrassing "if you're happy and you know it" jingle, the awful music selection...he definitely sucks. But as far as "go Spurs go" goes, its a pretty straight forward chant. Can't see how any normal human being would find that annoying unless their team is down by dozens, which is what is likely to happen to the Nuggets in Game 2.
Go, Spurs, go.
And turn out the lights when you leave.
Ronaldo McDonald
04-23-2007, 11:09 AM
They sound like guys bragging about getting laid when the chick they were w/ was shit faced.
SkunkinDuncan
04-23-2007, 11:21 AM
If Kizsla saw this thread he would be laughing.
When there are writers I don't like and know they like to piss me off, I don't read them.
GrandeDavid
04-23-2007, 11:28 AM
My comments above are in bold. This guy is an embarrassment to the newspaper which employs him. I don't mind anti-Spurs takes, but his writing is so simplistic and hollow. His takes are overly general and emotionally (or alcohol) charged. I can't believe this idiot is employed, seriously.
GrandeDavid
04-23-2007, 11:29 AM
I need a link to this article.
SkunkinDuncan
04-23-2007, 11:39 AM
I need a link to this article.
http://www.denverpost.com/kiszla
SpursWoman
04-23-2007, 11:51 AM
I need a link to this article.
Why? So you can either:
a.) respond to the fucktard to let him know he's accomplished his objective, which is to get arise out of you and lets him know people are actually reading his crap.
or
b.) post the link somewhere else so the article gets tons of hits that both let him know he's getting a rise out of people, and that he can show his boss the number of hits he gets, which would give him incentive to write even more stupid shit and give him a little more job security. Hey! Maybe even our writers will respond, too! Even better for him!
Dude, ignore him. Why is this such a difficult concept?
dbreiden83080
04-23-2007, 12:19 PM
My comments above are in bold. This guy is an embarrassment to the newspaper which employs him. I don't mind anti-Spurs takes, but his writing is so simplistic and hollow. His takes are overly general and emotionally (or alcohol) charged. I can't believe this idiot is employed, seriously.
Where i live in NY this is so common to have articles biased and dumb like this. I must read 5 articles a week where writers are coming right out and saying that A-Rod is a BUM and needs to go. I agree with you about him being a little emotional aabout this and really coming off like a Nugget fan but their media wants their 15 min a fame. Once Denver is gone we can all laugh at the crap they wrote after game 1.
ShoogarBear
04-23-2007, 12:35 PM
Where i live in NY this is so common to have articles biased and dumb like this. I must read 5 articles a week where writers are coming right out and saying that A-Rod is a BUM and needs to go. I think it's different when you're writing about the home team.
You have some leeway to write dumb criticisms about them, because of the assumption is that you are expressing frustrations and really want them to do better. (Of course, we know that's not always true and sometimes people have pathological hatred of players on their own team.)
When you write about somebody else's team as a professional writer, you're obligated to display some intelligence.
GrandeDavid
04-23-2007, 12:46 PM
Why? So you can either:
a.) respond to the fucktard to let him know he's accomplished his objective, which is to get arise out of you and lets him know people are actually reading his crap.
or
b.) post the link somewhere else so the article gets tons of hits that both let him know he's getting a rise out of people, and that he can show his boss the number of hits he gets, which would give him incentive to write even more stupid shit and give him a little more job security. Hey! Maybe even our writers will respond, too! Even better for him!
Dude, ignore him. Why is this such a difficult concept?
Oh, I'm not going to waste my time writing to him nor am I going to post the article. But I would like to read some other stuff. Its entertaining!
And I don't recall judging whether this or any other concept related to anything I've said or read on this forum was difficult.
dbreiden83080
04-23-2007, 12:54 PM
I think it's different when you're writing about the home team.
You have some leeway to write dumb criticisms about them, because of the assumption is that you are expressing frustrations and really want them to do better. (Of course, we know that's not always true and sometimes people have pathological hatred of players on their own team.)
When you write about somebody else's team as a professional writer, you're obligated to display some intelligence.
I agree but this is what these writers do when they smell blood in the water. Go for the throat and make wild assumptions. People are talking about this article which was his intent.
Bwild
04-23-2007, 01:56 PM
Wait untill the Spurs take their first game of the series. If I know Kiszla he's going to do a complete 180 and proclaim a sleeping giant was awoken and proceed to trash the Nuggets. He's an ass.
Tek_XX
04-23-2007, 02:09 PM
When you write such a silly article like this you are just waiting for Karma to slap you in the ass.
TMIMITW
04-23-2007, 02:14 PM
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Doug Collins
04-23-2007, 02:50 PM
They sound like guys bragging about getting laid when the chick they were w/ was shit faced.
and fat
Oink Oink
04-23-2007, 03:04 PM
Matt Kizzla = :donkey
shelshor
04-26-2007, 01:31 PM
Mark Kiszla's FishWrap of the day
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_5753193
Votives with a motive
By Mark Kiszla
Denver Post Staff Writer
Article Last Updated: 04/26/2007 01:37:47 AM MDT
It was time for breakfast. Stomachs growled in hunger. Or was that the sound of indigestion from worried Spurs fans? Deep in the heart of Texas, basketball was the hot topic on everybody's plate.
"Here's the deal," Carlos Villarreal, the friendly manager at San Antonio's El Mirador restaurant, told me Wednesday morning. "You guys from Denver let the Spurs win one more year, then you can take over. Our team is old. All we want is one more championship run."
The old, gray San Antonio Spurs ain't what they used to be. And everybody, including Denver, knows it.
Despite the fact San Antonio earned a 97-88 victory in an NBA playoff game the home team desperately needed, it was the Nuggets who were singing in the shower Wednesday night, because Carmelo Anthony and Allen Iverson have spied the distress in the eyes of the Spurs.
"They know they're in for a battle," Iverson said after the game was done. "They better know."
Oh, the Spurs know, all right. Anyone with an IQ above the average daily humidity reading in Texas knows.
All of San Antonio realizes the beloved hometown team is going to need all the help it can get to survive the Nuggets in this best-of-seven series.
"We're scared," Villarreal had explained at the breakfast table. Then, he added something truly revealing: "I'm going to light some candles."
Say what?
The Spurs really must be religion in San Antonio. A true fan is not hesitant to stop by church and fire up a votive candle on the way to the arena.
What did we learn from Game 2? Never underestimate the power of prayer.
Of course, having Spurs star Tim Duncan on your side doesn't hurt, either.
Duncan scored 22 points, and San Antonio hung on as a fourth-quarter rally by the Nuggets fell short. There was a time, back when the Spurs were a legitimate championship contender, when they could scare Denver. No more.
"We didn't back down," Nuggets coach George Karl said.
No directions are required to assemble the key components of this Denver loss, which tied the best-of- seven series at a victory for each team.
The Spurs brought the intensity.
The Nuggets supplied the bricks.
Denver could not shoot straight until it was too late, with Anthony and Iverson missing 29 shots between them. The Nuggets nearly wiped out a 17-point San Antonio lead in the fourth period, only to watch in disbelief when center Marcus Camby flubbed a dunk that could have cut the visitors' deficit to four points in the game's final two minutes.
So why were the Nuggets singing without a care in the shower?
"Missing the shots I can make with my eyes closed, I just feel good about that going into the next game, because I know I'm not going to miss those shots," Iverson said.
"How the heck do you know?" said Anthony, happily needling his teammate.
"It's a given," said Iverson, the league MVP in 2001. "I got an 11-year history of this."
"Oooh," Anthony sang, in a neo-soul voice that could've make D'Angelo cry.
Denver will probably have to win another game in Texas to eliminate the Spurs, and that won't be easy.
But the Nuggets are loose.
It's the Spurs, trying to cling to fading glory, unable to run with the more athletic Denver team, who have tense lines etched on their faces, knowing they must scratch and claw and hope for divine intervention to survive.
If you ever travel to San Antonio, make sure to stop by El Mirador, where if you have not had the chilaquiles for breakfast, you have not lived.
And talk basketball with Villarreal, a restaurant manager who once dreamed of being an NBA referee. He knows the score.
Between sips of coffee, I had asked Villarreal how many votive candles he would need to light to save his Spurs in Game 2.
"Only 10. We are talking about Denver here," he said with a laugh. "If we were playing Dallas, I might need to ask the priest to open another room at the church."
This figures to be a long series. I don't pretend to know whom God is rooting for, but youth and talent is on the side of the Nuggets.
Better stock up on candles and prayers, San Antonio.
Staff writer Mark Kiszla can be reached at 303-954-1053 or
[email protected].
BeerIsGood!
04-26-2007, 01:44 PM
Haha - AI is older than just about everyone on the Spurs not named Horry. And he's talking about youth. It's going to be a dogfight, but I still see the Spurs winning in 6.
Cry Havoc
04-26-2007, 01:46 PM
Wow. Just absolute, abject idiocy.
A team with 3 all-stars and Tim Duncan as it's post-player needs candles to beat an inexperienced team like the Nuggets?
It's almost not worth responding to, except this kind of moronicism is usually reserved for internet trolls.
I hope we destroy the Nuggets in Game 3. I want to see what Kiszla writes at that point.
But if we do, it will be on the shoulders of Duncan, not the candles of a single restaurant owner who's scared because we've lost one playoff game.
BeerIsGood!
04-26-2007, 01:48 PM
Nah, I'm done reading anything from this guy. Nothing but trash, and I have better things to do than read trash
celldweller
04-26-2007, 01:48 PM
"Better stock up on candles and prayers, San Antonio"
http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif
S-T-U-P-I-D article from a stupid sports writer!
http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/fishing.gif Our fishing smilie already comes in Denver Blue!
smeagol
04-26-2007, 02:06 PM
What an annoying sportswriter
CubanMustGo
04-26-2007, 02:44 PM
With this guy talking about players singing in the shower ... don't drop your bar of soap if he's around.
mardigan
04-26-2007, 02:48 PM
This guy is one of the worst writers I have ever read. I dont know how this guy has a yob
Slomo
04-26-2007, 02:50 PM
Hey if it's that easy put me down for a couple of crates!
:lol
xamila rey
04-26-2007, 03:38 PM
With this guy talking about players singing in the shower ... don't drop your bar of soap if he's around.
:lmao :lmao
rasho8
04-26-2007, 04:23 PM
what a douche
Obstructed_View
04-26-2007, 04:27 PM
"Here's the deal," Carlos Villarreal, the friendly manager at San Antonio's El Mirador restaurant, told me Wednesday morning. "You guys from Denver let the Spurs win one more year, then you can take over. Our team is old. All we want is one more championship run."
"We're scared," Villarreal had explained at the breakfast table. Then, he added something truly revealing: "I'm going to light some candles."
At least we now know AmusedDaySleeper's real name. :)
rasho8
04-26-2007, 04:33 PM
5 Carmelo Anthony F 6-8 230 05/29/1984 22 Syracuse 3
25 Steve Blake G 6-3 172 02/26/1980 27 Maryland 3
23 Marcus Camby C-F 6-11 235 03/22/1974 33 Massachusetts 10
4 Anthony Carter G 6-2 195 06/16/1975 31 Hawaii 7
5 Yakhouba DiawaraG 6-7 225 08/29/1982 24 Pepperdine R
30 Reggie Evans F 6-8 245 05/18/1980 26 Iowa 4
3 Allen Iverson G 6-0 165 06/07/1975 31 Georgetown 10
8 DerMarr Johnson F 6-9 210 05/05/1980 26 Cincinnati 5
43 Linas Kleiza F 6-8 245 01/03/1985 22 Missouri 1
6 Kenyon Martin F 6-9 240 12/30/1977 29 Cincinnati 6
21 Eduardo Najera F 6-8 235 07/11/1976 30 Oklahoma 6
31 Nenê F-C 6-11 268 09/13/1982 24 Brazil 4
7 Jamal Sampson F-C 6-11 235 05/15/1983 26 California 4
1 J.R. Smith G 6-6 220 09/09/1985 21 St. Benedict's 2
22 Von Wafer G 6-5 210 07/21/1985 21 Florida State 1
avg 26.2
17 Brent Barry G 6-7 210 12/31/1971 35 Oregon State 11
15 Matt Bonner F 6-10 240 04/05/1980 27 Florida 2
12 Bruce Bowen F 6-7 200 06/14/1971 35 Cal State 10
45 Jackie Butler C 6-10 260 03/10/1985 22 Coastal 2
21 Tim Duncan F-C 6-11 260 04/25/1976 31 Wake Forest 9
16 Francisco Elson C 7-0 235 02/28/1976 31 California 3
2 Melvin Ely F-C 6-10 261 05/02/1978 28 Fresno State 4
4 Michael Finley G-F 6-7 225 03/06/1973 34 Wisconsin 11
20 Manu Ginobili G 6-6 205 07/28/1977 29 Argentina 4
5 Robert Horry F-C 6-10 240 08/25/1970 36 Alabama 14
7 Fabricio Oberto C 6-10 245 03/21/1975 32 Argentina 1
9 Tony Parker G 6-2 180 05/17/1982 24 France 5
14 Beno Udrih G 6-3 200 07/05/1982 24 Slovenia 2
11 Jacque Vaughn G 6-1 190 02/11/1975 32 Kansas 9
33 James White G-F 6-7 200 10/21/1982 24 Cincinnati R
avg 29.8
Oh yeah.. and with the 3 year average age diff... comes 3 rings. Sucks to be a nugget.
td4mvp21
04-26-2007, 04:40 PM
:lol This guy is ridiculous if he is counting out the Spurs. Sounds like the Nuggets are a little too confident. I hope we blow them out on their own court.
Obstructed_View
04-26-2007, 04:47 PM
I just hope the Spurs actually start playing well before they make this guy look like he knows what he's talking about.
Spurs Dynasty 21
04-26-2007, 08:12 PM
:lol This guy is ridiculous if he is counting out the Spurs. Sounds like the Nuggets are a little too confident. I hope we blow them out on their own court.
Spurs can't just win on Saturday, bu they need to blow them out
I'm talking 20+ pts :elephant
L.I.T
04-26-2007, 08:32 PM
Blah, blah, blah? And blah. I'm surprised his computer hasn't committed suicide.
The problem is, I can't tell whether this guy is just spin-doctoring quotes from the Nuggets, or they really are that absurdly over-confident. I would expect drivel like that from Kenyon Martin, but you'd think that AI has been through enough battles in his career.
Maybe it has something to do with the altitude. Any studies out there on high altitudes leading to idiocy?
judaspriestess
04-26-2007, 11:24 PM
:rolleyes this was just a stupid waste of time. What a rude article and talk about overcompensating :sleep
but this, now this is a beautiful thing to hear a damn good coach say:
" 'We were older than dirt,' " Popovich remembered hearing about his team. " 'We needed to get this guy, or that guy, on the perimeter to get something done.' "
So he walked into the locker room one day and told his team, "We're not going to make a trade. We're not looking for a savior. It's right here in this room."-Gregg Popovich
GrandeDavid
04-27-2007, 06:44 AM
and fat
:lmao
rasho8
04-27-2007, 01:41 PM
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2006/0919/20060919_120727_Mark_Kiszla_Mug_New_DPO_prev.jpg
This is the douche that constantly rags the Spurs? I hope we sweep the rest of the series to shut him the hell up.
ShoogarBear
04-28-2007, 09:39 PM
Can't wait for this jackass's next column.
:hungry:
SPARKY
04-28-2007, 09:48 PM
Next column?
"Spurs on their way out to Phoenix".
judaspriestess
04-28-2007, 09:58 PM
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2006/0919/20060919_120727_Mark_Kiszla_Mug_New_DPO_prev.jpg
This is the douche that constantly rags the Spurs? I hope we sweep the rest of the series to shut him the hell up.
Its douche nozzle
JustSpurs
04-28-2007, 10:07 PM
Wow, this guy is a twatbomb!
Kevin Blackistone
04-29-2007, 03:55 AM
Spurs are on their way out
By Matt Kizzla
Once, as every bone in the body of San Antonio big-shot artist Robert Horry creaked as he raised himself from splatting on the floor, I swear you could see the AARP card slip from his pocket. The Spurs are old. They're ornery. They won't go quietly. But their roster has too much mileage to make a long playoff run.
I wonder if Kizsla has gotten that AARP card dislodged from his and every other Nugget's colon...
'Cause Big Shot Bob just shoved it square up their collective ASSES
shelshor
04-29-2007, 04:27 AM
Mercifully, it looks like Kiszla decided to rag on Mike Shanahan for Sunday's column
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_5775801
Instead we get Woody Paige's last 2 columns
Trying to stir up a long time rivalry:
http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_5760652
Nuggets' battle cry: Remember the ABA
And his column for today--seems to want to take JR Smith to the woodshed for game 3:
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_5777496
Who shot the Nuggets? J.R.
ShoogarBear
04-29-2007, 04:33 AM
Mercifully, it looks like Kiszla decided to rag on Mike Shanahan for Sunday's column
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_5775801So he's a cowardly piece of shit. What a suprise.
sabar
04-29-2007, 04:45 AM
Nuggets on their way out of the playoffs?
Spurs on their way out to the second round?
ChumpDumper
04-29-2007, 04:46 AM
Great, maybe we can get JR in a trade this summer.
supaphly119
04-29-2007, 05:02 AM
"I feel this is a loss we can build on," Karl said. The Nuggets lead in moral victories, 2-0, but it's not a best-of-moral-victories series, and moral victories are for satisfied losers.
Karl said the Nuggets had a great shoot-around Saturday morning. The Nuggets also lead the series in shoot-arounds, but trail where it counts, 2-1.
i thought this part was funny...
Obstructed_View
04-29-2007, 05:08 AM
I cannot believe how many people are throwing JR under the bus. AI did it, 'melo did it and Karl did it. JR's foul on Manu was thuggish, but he doesn't deserve to be blamed for the loss by everyone in his organization.
sabar
04-29-2007, 05:18 AM
The Nuggets ran out of material, you can only rag on Manu and complain about FT discrepencies so much.
Obstructed_View
04-29-2007, 05:33 AM
The Nuggets ran out of material, you can only rag on Manu and complain about FT discrepencies so much.
But it's like a talking point; his teammates, his coach, and the newspapers just picked it up and repeated it, almost simultaneously.
jmard5
04-29-2007, 06:52 AM
Well, this is my favorite:
"The Nuggets may be younger and more athletic overall and as talented as the Spurs, but the Spurs are more experienced in the playoffs, wiser in these games and better from the three-point arc and stronger from the bench."
What a complete 180 degree turn. I thought the Spurs are "in their way out"?
Moron. :rolleyes
Cry Havoc
04-29-2007, 10:55 AM
So I guess it was J.R.'s fault that the Nuggets were unable to contain Duncan in the post? It was his fault that Finley was WIDE open all day from 3? (So was Bowen, incidentally, but he missed his shots.) It was J.R. that could contain Parker in the lane or took too many 18-20 foot jump shots with 13 seconds left on the clock?
This was a team loss by the Nuggets and a team WIN by the Spurs. Horry was clutch. Finley just drilled them. Duncan was incredible on the defensive end.
Once again, an example of the media hyping a young, inexperienced team after the first game of a series and then not knowing how they could lose the next to and be put in a compromising position. Idiots.
Spurs Dynasty 21
04-29-2007, 11:06 AM
what's this guys latest article?
my2sons
04-29-2007, 11:27 AM
what's this guys latest article?
football draft. he won't write another baslketball article because denver won't win another game.
howbouthemspurs
04-29-2007, 12:10 PM
what an idiot!.. hE SURELY DOESNT KNOW HIS HISTORY!
manu2timdynasty
04-19-2019, 09:11 AM
Kiszla still at it...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/2019/04/13/denver-nuggets-san-antonio-spurs-playoff-predictions/amp/
timvp
04-19-2019, 02:27 PM
Quality bump :lol
LoneStarState'sPride
04-19-2019, 02:30 PM
Kiszla still at it...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/2019/04/13/denver-nuggets-san-antonio-spurs-playoff-predictions/amp/
Dude must be hating homeboy Blanco right about now. :lol
BillMc
04-19-2019, 02:32 PM
South wins Battle of First Bull Run. "It's Over For the North" says Mark Kiszla.
jmard5
04-19-2019, 02:52 PM
Wow. Memory lane. Also saw old posters that used to visit SpursTalk alot.
Maddog
04-19-2019, 03:40 PM
He lost me at
Nuggets return to the post season for the first time in 6 years
exstatic
04-19-2019, 05:59 PM
Someone should send him the link to this thread to show him how long he’s been trying to bury the Spurs with his subpar prose.
Leetonidas
04-19-2019, 06:08 PM
Lmao I remember reading this article 12 years ago :lol what a retard. Gonna be even funnier when spurs wax that ass once again this year as a 7th seed
Joseph Kony
04-19-2019, 06:15 PM
the normally unflappable San Antonio superstar was spied during the first half rubbing hands across his mug like a fuming child who could not believe what was happening to him.
this is some serious hack writing right here :lmao also the "will robinson" line :lmao really dude? how the fuck is this chump still employed?? i almost want to find this guy on social media so i can troll his retarded ass
Stabula
04-19-2019, 09:08 PM
Hail Satan
ZeusWillJudge
04-19-2019, 10:41 PM
Will be a tense moment or two, but Denver can only lose this series by epic fail.
LOL. I'm good with that. Should give Malone something to think about when the fish aren't biting.
Genovaswitness
04-26-2019, 09:08 PM
https://twitter.com/markkiszla/status/1121590329780473856
hes at it again
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