Who shot the Nuggets? J.R.

[ducks]

Who shot the Nuggets? J.R.
By Woody Paige
Denver Post Staff Columnist
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated:04/29/2007 01:02:17 AM MDT

Allen Iverson had tied the score at 64, and the largest frothing basketball crowd in Denver basketball history braced for a fast, furious, frenzied, fantastic finish - maybe a winning shot at the buzzer or an overtime victory.

Phooey.

That's when J.R. Smith entered stage left. Too bad he didn't exit stage right immediately.

The Spurs were as thrilled to see Smith as kids are to taste cotton candy.

Cotton candy would be more effective on defense.

By the time Smith's awful inbound pass was stolen by Robert Horry, who made a three-pointer, and Smith stole the ball and ludicrously didn't pass off to Iverson on the wing for an easy shot and had his own rejected by Horry, and Smith knocked down Iverson and fell over him, leaving the Spurs with an open three-point shot at the other end, and after Smith made a three-point play, but then missed a three-pointer and committed a flagrant foul at the other end on Ginobili, the Nuggets were down 77-67, and the foamy crowd became a fuming crowd.

The game was over. The series probably is over.

Same old same old.

"It's frustrating," Smith said. "We're losing games we should win."

Maybe if coach George Karl didn't play Smith, they would win games they should win.

Sure, there may be a multitude of reasons why the Nuggets' "must win" turned into "musty loss."

But every list of reasons would be headed by J.R.

And it's not just me claiming it.

"That foul, the J.R. foul, we gave up four points on that play right there. We had to fight ever since. I think that was the turning point of the game," Carmelo Anthony said.

Karl said point blank: "J.R. had a big turnover which I think kind of shook us up."

I guess so. They Nuggets were in shock while J.R. tried to win the game by himself, but seemed to lose it by himself.

Smith's pass to Horry was the best assist the Spurs had all night. Smith should stick to garbage time because he played like rubbish.

If you can't help the Nuggets, J.R., don't hurt them. Linas Kleiza had 13 zeroes in his box score line Saturday, and he contributed more than Smith.

Smith always seems to be talking big, but he has come up small in the playoffs.

The Nuggets may be younger and more athletic overall and as talented as the Spurs, but the Spurs are more experienced in the playoffs, wiser in these games and better from the three-point arc and stronger from the bench.

"I feel this is a loss we can build on," Karl said. The Nuggets lead in moral victories, 2-0, but it's not a best-of-moral-victories series, and moral victories are for satisfied losers.

Karl said the Nuggets had a great shoot-around Saturday morning. The Nuggets also lead the series in shoot-arounds, but trail where it counts, 2-1.

The NBA sent its powerful-and-remarkable commissioner, David Stern, to Game 3, but also, oddly, sent three weak and indecisive officials who looked like they were working their first game ever. When they weren't busy calling a technical foul on Karl for leaving the coaching box - a penalty levied about once a millennium in the NBA - they were whistling three defensive three-second technicals. The San Antonio-Denver game obviously wasn't important enough to the NBA to provide one lead referee. Where's Joey Crawford when you need him?

The officials didn't beat the Nuggets. S&S (Spurs and Smith) combined to beat the Nuggets.

The Spurs would pass the ball inside to Tim Duncan; the Nuggets would converge, and Duncan would pass outside to Horry, Ginobili, Michael Finley and Tony Parker.

The foursome made 9 of 21 three-point attempts - 42.9 percent, which, interestingly, was the Nuggets' percentage for layups and other common shots.

Smith, meanwhile, was 0 for 3 from beyond the three-point arc.

The Nuggets should have placed themselves in a position to win before Smith put them in a position to lose (when the Spurs had three of their starters on the bench).

The Spurs were sluggish early, but the Nuggets had only a five-point lead six minutes in. The crowd of at least 19,951 was in a festive mood, thinking the Nuggets would grab a 2-1 series lead and probably put it out of reach at 3-1 on Monday night. Now, the Nuggets could disappear as quickly as they usually do in the post-season.

The Nuggets put the hook to San Antonio in the first game, then let the Spurs off it in the next two.

And the only chance the Nuggets now have is when the game is tied at 64 on Monday night, Karl should keep his mouth shut and his starting lineup intact.

Staff writer Woody Paige can be reached at 303-954-1095 or [email protected].

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[GrandeDavid]

I'm glad the Spurs didn't trade Barry for Smith after all! That trade didn't go down in the 11th hour for a damn good reason which ultimately seems to have benefitted the Spurs.

[exstatic]

DAYUM. Yeah, this is going to be a united team for game four. Fuck, the blood is in the water and the sharks are HERE. :lmao

[exstatic]

I'm glad the Spurs didn't trade Barry for Smith after all! That trade didn't go down in the 11th hour for a damn good reason which ultimately seems to have benefitted the Spurs.
I stated this in another thread, but I'm now thinking that Smith would have been an early version of Ely. He just seems WAY too stupid (basketball wise) to get on the floor for SA.

[leemajors]

wait... did woody paige write a decent article?

[CubanMustGo]

Other than bitching about the refereeing while failing to note that Denver still had more than a 2:1 advantage at the FT line, and jumping to the "oh my god we are down 2-1 so the series is over" trap, and ...

[boutons_]

"didn't play Smith, they would win games they should win."

"The Nuggets lead in moral victories"

"The Nuggets also lead the series in shoot-arounds"

"Smith put them in a position to lose"

:lol

[TheTruth]

As a Broncos fan, I read woody paige articles all the time, and he's a damn good writer. Terrible on TV though.

Seeing JR Smith in the game just settles my pulse for some reason. That thug couldn't play smart basketball if George Karl's career depended on it.

[td4mvp21]

I can't stand the Nuggets. Not once have I seen any of them give credit to the Spurs defense...especially A.I. Parker and Bowen did very well on him.

[ALVAREZ6]

Linas Kleiza had 13 zeroes in his box score line Saturday, and he contributed more than Smith.

:lol

the truth

[ThomasGranger]

I hadn't read Woody Paige before, but judging by this article the guy seems like a total hack:


the foamy crowd became a fuming crowd.


Sure, there may be a multitude of reasons why the Nuggets' "must win" turned into "musty loss."

Wow! Lines like this are what you would expect from some kid writing for his high school paper.

But he used his best material to slam J.R. Smith:



That's when J.R. Smith entered stage left. Too bad he didn't exit stage right immediately.


The Spurs were as thrilled to see Smith as kids are to taste cotton candy.

Cotton candy would be more effective on defense.


Smith should stick to garbage time because he played like rubbish.


Smith always seems to be talking big, but he has come up small in the playoffs.


Ouch. One more reason I hope the Spurs close out the series in the next two games.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Karl said the Nuggets had a great shoot-around Saturday morning. The Nuggets also lead the series in shoot-arounds, but trail where it counts, 2-1.

:lmao

Actually, I like Woody on TV. At least he calls it like he sees it and doesn't pull any punches. he also has a brutal sense of humour. He kicks the shit through that idiot Kizsla! Go Woody!!!

[Borosai]

So according to Paige, the Nuggets should be winning all of these games, and the Spurs are getting lucky because the Nuggets suck and are letting them off the hook? What a turd.

Oh, and the entire team and press are throwing Smith under the bus...probably a short bus if we are talking about the Nuggets. He must feel all warm and cozy in that locker room.

[ThomasGranger]

:lmao

Actually, I like Woody on TV. At least he calls it like he sees it and doesn't pull any punches. he also has a brutal sense of humour. He kicks the shit through that idiot Kizsla! Go Woody!!!

Yeah, Kizsla makes Woody look like a Pulitzer winner.

[Samr]

Absolutely horrible article, but the take is interesting. Certainly Smith isn't losing this series for the Nuggets, but he will be an easy target for the blame when the Nuggets go down. Game 3 will be the on the press points to.

[carina_gino20]

wow. pretty harsh. what a total contrast to the Spurs team reaction last year when Manu lost the ball in Sacramento and fouled Dirk in Dallas.

granted it was a bonehead play, but they had 12 minutes to rectify the damage. now they're making it as an excuse.

the last thing George Karl needs is to kick his player while he's down. But after tonight, JR might just be sitting pretty on the bench so...

[SPARKY]

Mentally soft teams allow themselves to be disrupted by one player.

[Sec24Row7]

What an asshole... He is on YOUR team... dont throw him under the bus... the kid is what? 20?

Jesus...

[spursfaninla]

The Nuggets may be younger and more athletic overall and as talented as the Spurs, but the Spurs are more experienced in the playoffs, wiser in these games and better from the three-point arc and stronger from the bench.

As an elementary school teacher, I am agast at how a published writer can get away with a 2nd grade error--this sentence is a horrible run-on.

[carina_gino20]

this just exposes the kind of coach george karl is. One third quarter turnover doesn't cost you a game. when it came down to it, the spurs executed and the nuggets crumbled. he should be more worried about that than a stupid mistake by a youngster.

[JsnSA]

Wow. That article was way too harsh. yeah JR made a bonehead move, but he was NOT the reason they lost.

Thats just sad that they are trying to throw him under the bus like that.

Horry has actually done that suprise inbound steal quite a few times in his career. That probably could have happened to any number of the nuggets...not just JR.

Also, the dude is youg. They need to keep their bitching about him private and freaking teach him...have him learn from these mistakes. Getting on him in public like that is just sad.

Hell...our best players make boneheaded plays as well...but you never see our players calling them out. Look at Manu last year. Huge bonehead play against the Mavs...but in the end it was a simple mistake. You learn and move on. If the Nuggets can't do that then I can't see them becoming a long term threat as a team.

[FromWayDowntown]

I can't stand the Nuggets. Not once have I seen any of them give credit to the Spurs defense...especially A.I. Parker and Bowen did very well on him.

Actually, Iverson was -- I thought anyway -- very complimentary of the Spurs in his post-game comments in the press room last night.

[lefty]

I have to admit that Smith was a disaster saturday night

[Samr]

^^^on that note (elementary school teacher).....


That's when J.R. Smith entered stage left. Too bad he didn't exit stage right immediately.

The Spurs were as thrilled to see Smith as kids are to taste cotton candy.

Cotton candy would be more effective on defense.

One-liners are only used to set off and highlight an important point, or when a sentence can stand alone. These three lines can't stand in a supported argument, never mind highlighted on their own. NEXT.



The game was over. The series probably is over.

Same old same old.

1) Never make a claim you are not immediately prepared to support. 2) If you've heard something said elsewhere, do not use it again. "Same old same old" is the equivalent of giving a speech filled with "uhm..."s. NEXT.




Maybe if coach George Karl didn't play Smith, they would win games they should win.


Since when did this article about one game turn into a projection on multiple games? NEXT.


And the only chance the Nuggets now have is when the game is tied at 64 on Monday night, Karl should keep his mouth shut and his starting lineup intact.

Read this sentence aloud -- it makes no sense. Or for that matter, read this entire article aloud. While his take on JR (as I have said) has some possible legs, his writing is appropriately reminiscent of the cotton candy he mentioned in the beginning: pink, fluffy and sweet, but absolutely no substance. Cotton candy is pretty much just sugar and air. NEXT.

[Supergirl]

Smith is still a very talented player. This is just his first playoff series. If we can win with Udrih on our roster making stupid playoff gaffs (2005) then Denver is no worse off with Smith.

The Nuggets lost because they couldn't score against the Spurs D when it counted. Plain and simple.

Now, 2 more times, boys.

[SPARKY]

Actually, Iverson was -- I thought anyway -- very complimentary of the Spurs in his post-game comments in the press room last night.

FA in '09.

[ShoogarBear]

Excellent. Maybe George and the Nuggets will pick up this mantra and throw JR under the bus. It will certainly set the ball rolling for complete implosion next year.


FA in '09.Yeah, I could see AI maybe going Randy Moss for one last shot at a ring.

[beirmeistr]

I'm glad the Spurs didn't trade Barry for Smith after all! That trade didn't go down in the 11th hour for a damn good reason which ultimately seems to have benefitted the Spurs.
I too am glad the trade did not happen. Smith has way too many tattoos to blend with the Spurs, and, more importantly, makes dumb mistakes.

[T Park]

:lol @ sparky

[ShoogarBear]

<--------------

Hmm, too many tattoos and dumb mistakes?

[Clutch20]

As an elementary school teacher, I am agast at how a published writer can get away with a 2nd grade error--this sentence is a horrible run-on.
Veritably so. I heartily concur.

[Borosai]

If you want to understand why this article sucks, just watch Around the Horn. Woody Paige is a senile old man, who on top of having horrible opinions, appears to be losing his hearing as well. Not someone worth listening to.

[smeagol]

What an asshole... He is on YOUR team... dont throw him under the bus... the kid is what? 20?

Jesus...
Agreed 100%.

[ChumpDumper]

So the Nugget writers are pimping the great youth and athleticism on their team but shitting on their youngest and arguably most athletic player.

This makes perfect sense.

[lrrr]

All this finger pointing can't be good for team chemistry. Not just for Smith, but the whole locker room. The nugs seem to be talking up how they are still confident of being able to come back "we're not the same team as 2005 blah blah", but if they've resorted to turning on one another, the end is nigh.

[powerpower]

In 2006 playoffs, after game 7 with mavs, at the press conference no one from the spurs blamed manu..at least they did not say it.. except of course manu blamed it on himself...
but after game 3, AI and Melo and Karl emphasized on the Smith's turnover and his flagrant foul on Manu.....they were pretty much blaming it on him..

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Yeah, I was thinking, "...wow I'm glad the SA media doesn't play that blame game. (At least not so ostensibly.)" I was surprised that other Sports Cities call out other players on their teams for a mental lapse that wasn't EVEN a game-DECIDING play. I'd understand if it was a fuck up at the last second, but this at worst was just a game changing play. They just got outplayed. The writer is giving Denver the impression that the Nuggets aren't the underdogs. :lol It's only gonna help ruin their team's solidarity. :tu, so whatever.

I know and can tell, when San Antonio is playing to win and will grind it out, and there was no doubt that we were going to execute in the last two games to be on top. And we're only gonna get better at getting the wins with each game. So it's very funny to read the opposing team's articles, because it's a glimpse of delusion.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

In 2006 playoffs, after game 7 with mavs, at the press conference no one from the spurs blamed manu..at least they did not say it.. except of course manu blamed it on himself...
but after game 3, AI and Melo and Karl emphasized on the Smith's turnover and his flagrant foul on Manu.....they were pretty much blaming it on him..
Of course, they would allude to it, but overall, they didn't throw him under the bus for it.

Manu fucked up, but at least we know we just have to get back up and keep playing. I'm hoping Manu uses his fuck up for redemption and vindication in the post-season. He's gonna have one 2005 Manu-esque game at some point.

[ruru]

Damn you guys are cow-towners.

I didn't think Woody's column was particularly compelling, but any column writer has this kind of gramatical freedom.

It's entertaining to see how fascinated Spurs fans are with a big city paper.

[ChumpDumper]

We are fascinated by that fact "big city" writers can be so petty and amateurish.

[ruru]

We are fascinated by that fact "big city" writers can be so petty and amateurish.


Huh? Well, if they weren't all of the Denver Newspaper threads wouldn't exist, hence the purpose.

What do you expect? Something boring about how good the Spurs are?

[ChumpDumper]

What do you expect?"Big City" adequacy.

[ruru]

And what does that mean?

[ChumpDumper]

Exactly.

[aaronstampler]

As an elementary school teacher, I am agast at how a published writer can get away with a 2nd grade error--this sentence is a horrible run-on.


I think his second paragraph was much worse...

By the time Smith's awful inbound pass was stolen by Robert Horry, who made a three-pointer, and Smith stole the ball and ludicrously didn't pass off to Iverson on the wing for an easy shot and had his own rejected by Horry, and Smith knocked down Iverson and fell over him, leaving the Spurs with an open three-point shot at the other end, and after Smith made a three-point play, but then missed a three-pointer and committed a flagrant foul at the other end on Ginobili, the Nuggets were down 77-67, and the foamy crowd became a fuming crowd. <<

He wrote that all in one sentence, ladies and germs. Is the paper suffering through some kind of editor strike or something? I'm starting to feel more hopeful about my chances of becoming a professional writer by the day. Woody's an idiot and I can't believe he still thinks Mike Vick's a great player.

[ruru]

Exactly.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/columnists/bharvey/stories/MYSA042907.01C.COL.BKNharvey.spurs.3b494b1.html

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :wakeup

Is this great journalism?

What a snoozer with no flow.

[ChumpDumper]

Right, no hundred-word sentences.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok, I exaggerated.

Woody's sentence only had 99 words.

When not counting hyphenated words.

[leemajors]

^^^on that note (elementary school teacher).....



One-liners are only used to set off and highlight an important point, or when a sentence can stand alone. These three lines can't stand in a supported argument, never mind highlighted on their own. NEXT.




1) Never make a claim you are not immediately prepared to support. 2) If you've heard something said elsewhere, do not use it again. "Same old same old" is the equivalent of giving a speech filled with "uhm..."s. NEXT.





Since when did this article about one game turn into a projection on multiple games? NEXT.



Read this sentence aloud -- it makes no sense. Or for that matter, read this entire article aloud. While his take on JR (as I have said) has some possible legs, his writing is appropriately reminiscent of the cotton candy he mentioned in the beginning: pink, fluffy and sweet, but absolutely no substance. Cotton candy is pretty much just sugar and air. NEXT.

cherry picking sports writers is too easy, save the effort.

[SPARKY]

Damn you guys are cow-towners.

I didn't think Woody's column was particularly compelling, but any column writer has this kind of gramatical freedom.

It's entertaining to see how fascinated Spurs fans are with a big city paper.


Yeah, we just got running water the other day.

[ShoogarBear]

Funny how it's the cow-towners with the higher journalism standards.

[ruru]

You are all fooling yourselves. DP an RMN love the fact that you are picking apart their column writers.

[ruru]

Yeah, I was thinking, "...wow I'm glad the SA media doesn't play that blame game. (At least not so ostensibly.)" I was surprised that other Sports Cities call out other players on their teams for a mental lapse that wasn't EVEN a game-DECIDING play. I'd understand if it was a fuck up at the last second, but this at worst was just a game changing play. They just got outplayed. The writer is giving Denver the impression that the Nuggets aren't the underdogs. :lol It's only gonna help ruin their team's solidarity. :tu, so whatever.

I know and can tell, when San Antonio is playing to win and will grind it out, and there was no doubt that we were going to execute in the last two games to be on top. And we're only gonna get better at getting the wins with each game. So it's very funny to read the opposing team's articles, because it's a glimpse of delusion.


You guys actually believe that column writing is about objectivity and that a lack thereof somehow plays a factor in the games.

How isolated are you guys down there?

[ChumpDumper]

It's all about about using 99-word sentences to bring in readers from "small towns" to your "big city" paper.

[ruru]

It seems this is true. My what attention you have given it.

[ChumpDumper]

My it must have gotten ten extra hits. Internet gold!

[ShoogarBear]

It seems this is true. My what attention you have given it.This from somebody with about 10 of his 16 total posts in this thread.

[ChumpDumper]

My what attention he has given us.

Internet gold!

BIG CITY internet gold!

[ruru]

If this is a an accurate sample of Spurs fans, which given the geography and the implications of such- I have no doubt it it is, then it it probably a good reflection on a large amount of hits it has gotten.

The Express( or whatever it is called) has DPO and RMN linked up for a reason.

[ruru]

This from somebody with about 10 of his 16 total posts in this thread.


And I am not complaining with naivete like you guys. I find it amusing.

[ChumpDumper]

The Express( or whatever it is called) has DPO and RMN linked up for a reason.Because they do it every season for the news sites of opposing playoff teams.

GOLD!

[ShoogarBear]

And I am not complaining with naivete like you guys. I find it amusing.Or maybe it's just that you can't contribute anything about basketball?

[ruru]

Because they do it every season for the news sites of opposing playoff teams.

GOLD!


Yep. Gullible never changes.

[ChumpDumper]

We read BIG CITY columns from Memphis papers during the playoffs too.

[ChumpDumper]

Yep. Gullible never changes.Yup, Buck thanks you for the BIG CITY INTERNETS GOLD you just gave him.

[ruru]

Or maybe it's just that you can't contribute anything about basketball?

Found it hard to get past the homerism and superficial analysis.

But go ahead and shoot if you'd like.

[SPARKY]

Is it true that in BIG CITY there are hot showers and refrigeration?

[ChumpDumper]

Scout the enemy camp

Check in on both the latest news and fan buzz out of San Antonio at MySA.com.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets

[THE SIXTH MAN]

ruru tell me more about the big city.

[ruru]

I don't know how to talk with you folk.

[Samir Nagheenanajar]

Is it true this big city? How can one go there?

http://www.luminomagazine.com/2004.03/spotlight/officespace/images/samir/samir3.jpg

[ruru]

Scout the enemy camp

Check in on both the latest news and fan buzz out of San Antonio at MySA.com.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets
:sleep

[ShoogarBear]

I don't know how to talk with you folk.I suspect it's not just limited to us.

[ChumpDumper]

The DPO (or whatever it is called) has the Express-News linked up for a reason.

[T Park]

i reckon i dont know how i get out to dat dare ATT centermathingy

HEE YUK

[ruru]

A futile attempt. Three paragraphs and it's nap-time.

[ChumpDumper]

Tell that to the BIG CITY paper.

[ruru]

Sorry you are confused about how it works.

[ChumpDumper]

Sorry you are confused about how it works.Not at all, the link from the DPO page goes right to the E-N Spurs page.

Try it!

And thanks for the BIG CITY INTERNETS GOLD!

[THE SIXTH MAN]

I don't know how to talk with you folk.
Whats wrong, did the Denver school system fail you?

[ruru]

Yes I know that ChumpDumper.

[SPARKY]

Sorry you are confused about how it works.

How it usually works is that a fan of a team down in a series directs their angst into pointless canards about the home city of the opposing team. Run along now skippy.

[ruru]

What have I said about San Antonio?

[ruru]

How it usually works is that a fan of a team down in a series directs their angst into pointless canards about the home city of the opposing team. Run along now skippy.

Self-conscious? :oink

[SPARKY]

Does trolling make one stupid or do only the stupid troll? You decide.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes I know that ChumpDumper.You know there's a reason that link is there.

[ruru]

Does trolling make one stupid or do only the stupid troll? You decide.

That's a complex question fallacy that falls short of it's goal.

To be fair, I don't think I was trolling. If I was and you responded, what does that mean?

[ruru]

WHat's tommorow's score 'fellas?

[ChumpDumper]

I ain't saying nuthin til I read the BIG CITY papers.

[ruru]

Just like your team right?

[ChumpDumper]

Does my team have to read BIG CITY papers?

Is that what the link is for?

[SPARKY]

Woody, is that you?

[ChumpDumper]

All guys from the BIG CITY have names like Woody.

[ruru]

Does my team have to read BIG CITY papers?

Is that what the link is for?

Newspaper does more than just motivate the Spurs remember?

[ChumpDumper]

Actually no, I don't remember. You never made a coherent argument.

What is the link in the BIG CITY paper site to the Express-News for again?

[ruru]

Woody, is that you?


Sorry, up here we don't all know each other.

And no I am not Woody Paige and Cambrad is not Marcus Camby.

[ruru]

Actually no, I don't remember. You never made a coherent argument.

What is the link in the BIG CITY paper site to the Express-News for again?


Look up Hearst and use common sense. Just becuase they are both linked doesn't mean they are both read.

I think this board proves as much.

[ChumpDumper]

So the BIG CITY only links to the E-N out of a sense of corporate obligation.

One has to wonder why they would even bother owning a paper in such a tiny hamlet.

[ChumpDumper]

Does Hearst own either Denver paper?

[ruru]

So the BIG CITY only links to the E-N out of a sense of corporate obligation.

One has to wonder why they would even bother owning a paper in such a tiny hamlet.


Small town newspapers are thriving.

[ChumpDumper]

Why am I looking up Hearst again?

[ChumpDumper]

Small town newspapers are thriving.Because BIG CITY folk are reading them?

[ruru]

Does Hearst own either Denver paper?
No

[Chris]

I ain't saying nuthin


Your alias has been exposed.

[ruru]

Because BIG CITY folk are reading them?
No.

[ruru]

Why am I looking up Hearst again?
Deductive reasoning.

[ChumpDumper]

NoSo why is Hearst significant to you when a MediaNews Group links to the Express-News?

[Sec24Row7]

Rank City State Population in 2003 Change since 2000
1 New York New York 8,085,742 77,464
2 Los Angeles California 3,819,951 125,131
3 Chicago Illinois 2,869,121 -26,895
4 Houston Texas 2,009,690 56,059
5 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 1,479,339 -38,211
6 Phoenix Arizona 1,388,416 67,371
7 San Diego California 1,266,753 43,353
8 San Antonio Texas 1,214,725 70,079
9 Dallas Texas 1,208,318 19,738
10 Detroit Michigan 911,402 -39,868
11 San Jose California 898,349 3,406
12 Indianapolis Indiana 783,438 1,568
13 Jacksonville Florida 773,781 38,164
14 San Francisco California 751,682 -25,051
15 Columbus Ohio 728,432 16,962
16 Austin Texas 672,011 15,449
17 Memphis Tennessee 645,978 -4,122
18 Baltimore Maryland 628,670 -22,484
19 Milwaukee Wisconsin 586,941 -10,033
20 Fort Worth Texas 585,122 50,428
21 Charlotte North Carolina 584,658 43,830
22 El Paso Texas 584,113 20,451
23 Boston Massachusetts 581,616 -7,525
24 Seattle Washington 569,101 5,727
25 Washington DC 563,384 -8,675
26 Denver Colorado 557,478 2,842


Yeah you guys are a veritable metropolis... Try catching El Paso...

[ruru]

So why is Hearst significant to you when a MediaNews Group links to the Express-News?


How does Hearst do business?

[ChumpDumper]

How does MediaNews Group do business?

[ruru]

Rank City State Population in 2003 Change since 2000
1 New York New York 8,085,742 77,464
2 Los Angeles California 3,819,951 125,131
3 Chicago Illinois 2,869,121 -26,895
4 Houston Texas 2,009,690 56,059
5 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 1,479,339 -38,211
6 Phoenix Arizona 1,388,416 67,371
7 San Diego California 1,266,753 43,353
8 San Antonio Texas 1,214,725 70,079
9 Dallas Texas 1,208,318 19,738
10 Detroit Michigan 911,402 -39,868
11 San Jose California 898,349 3,406
12 Indianapolis Indiana 783,438 1,568
13 Jacksonville Florida 773,781 38,164
14 San Francisco California 751,682 -25,051
15 Columbus Ohio 728,432 16,962
16 Austin Texas 672,011 15,449
17 Memphis Tennessee 645,978 -4,122
18 Baltimore Maryland 628,670 -22,484
19 Milwaukee Wisconsin 586,941 -10,033
20 Fort Worth Texas 585,122 50,428
21 Charlotte North Carolina 584,658 43,830
22 El Paso Texas 584,113 20,451
23 Boston Massachusetts 581,616 -7,525
24 Seattle Washington 569,101 5,727
25 Washington DC 563,384 -8,675
26 Denver Colorado 557,478 2,842


Yeah you guys are a veritable metropolis... Try catching El Paso...

That's suprising. So it may be skewed without adding in outlying population centers (Denver is well over 2 mil in a 25 mile radius), still surprising.

I guess you guys are just reinforcing stereotypes.

[ruru]

How does MediaNews Group do business?


Rhetorical question?

[ChumpDumper]

No more than yours.

[ruru]

No more than yours.


Well if you knew the answer, why did you start a merry go round?


I am on deadline, must get back to work.

[ChumpDumper]

That settles it.

ruru writes for a BIG CITY newspaper!

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

You guys actually believe that column writing is about objectivity and that a lack thereof somehow plays a factor in the games.

How isolated are you guys down there?
:lol whatever


The Clippers articles would have been possibly objective if they had been playing in the playoffs.

Because...well, it's the Clippers!