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Nbadan
11-22-2004, 03:13 PM
By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff
November 22, 2004


WASHINGTON -- A growing number of national security specialists who supported the toppling of Saddam Hussein are moving to a position unthinkable even a few months ago: that the large US military presence is impeding stability as much as contributing to it and that the United States should begin major reductions in troops beginning early next year.

Their assessments, expressed in reports, think tank meetings, and interviews, run counter to the Bush administration's insistence that the troops will remain indefinitely to establish security. But some contend that the growing support for an earlier pullout could alter the administration's thinking.

Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/11/22/hawks_push_deep_cuts_in_forces_in_iraq)

Can't start another front without troops, right?


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Vice-president Dick Cheney and his fellow hardliner, John Bolton, an under-secretary of state to Mr Powell, are both understood to have lobbied Mr Bush to replace him.

They wanted to make Iran's alleged nuclear bomb aspirations and support for Islamic terror groups the foreign policy priority for the new administration and believed that Mr Powell would back away from a confrontational approach.


Yahoo News (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1802&ncid=716&e=16&u=/washpost/20041122/ts_washpost/a2565_2004nov21)

but the boots on the ground are saying they need more troops, not less...


BAGHDAD, Nov. 21 -- Senior U.S. military commanders in Iraq (news - web sites) say it is increasingly likely they will need a further increase in combat forces to put down remaining areas of resistance in the country.

Convinced that the recent battle for Fallujah has significantly weakened insurgent ranks, commanders here have devised plans to press the offensive into neighborhoods where rebels have either taken refuge after fleeing Fallujah or were already deeply entrenched.

But the forces available for these intensified operations have become limited by the demands of securing Fallujah and overseeing the massive reconstruction effort there -- demands that senior U.S. military officers say are likely to tie up a substantial number of Marines and Army troops for weeks.

"What's important is to keep the pressure on these guys now that we've taken Fallujah from them," a high-ranking U.S. military commander said, speaking on condition he not be named because of the sensitivity of the deliberations on adding more troops. "We're in the pursuit phase. We have to stay after these guys so they don't get their feet set."

Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/11/21/wpow21.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/11/21/ixnewstop.html)

Marcus Bryant
11-22-2004, 03:25 PM
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sup bitch?

CommanderMcBragg
11-22-2004, 04:04 PM
I heard Senator John McCain say that the CO's are requesting 20,000 to 50,000 more troops to stabalize Iraq.

Are you ready to go Marcus or are you going to ignore this too?

Marcus Bryant
11-22-2004, 04:07 PM
I'm ready to do what I want to do asshole. Don't even start.

Hook Dem
11-22-2004, 04:11 PM
I hear the black helicopters....no wait....those are high water rescues.