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Nbadan
11-22-2004, 03:52 PM
Couldn't have had anything to do with it being Nov 22nd, right?

HOUSTON - A private jet that was en route to Houston to pick up former President Bush (news - web sites) clipped a light pole and crashed Monday as it approached Hobby Airport in thick fog, killing all three people aboard.

Jet Crashes in Houston Fog, Killing Three
(AP Video)


The Gulfstream G-1159A jet, coming into Houston, went down about 6:15 a.m. in an undeveloped area 1 1/2 miles south of the airport, officials said.

"The plane that unfortunately crashed was flying in from Dallas to pick former President Bush up, with myself as a travel aide and a Secret Service agent," said Tom Freschette, spokesman for the former President Bush in Houston.

Bush was going to give a lecture for the Quayaquil, Ecuador, Chamber of Commerce (news - web sites), Freschette said, adding, "It's very sad."

Yahoo News (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=718&e=2&u=/ap/20041122/ap_on_re_us/jet_crash)

W promptly declared war on the private Airline company citing, "They tried to kill my Dad!"

:lol

Hook Dem
11-22-2004, 04:06 PM
You find this humorous do you Dan? Damn, you're a sick mofo! :flipoff

Aggie Hoopsfan
11-22-2004, 07:10 PM
Yeah, a former President almost died. haha, that's funny.

[/dumbfuck liberal]

:rolleyes

scott
11-22-2004, 10:28 PM
Yeah, a former President almost died. haha, that's funny.

How did a Former President almost die? That's a bit of a stretch.

Aggie Hoopsfan
11-22-2004, 11:00 PM
If the plane would have crashed 4 hours later it would have had 41 on it.

gophergeorge
11-23-2004, 10:31 AM
Important Safety Tip:

Don't fly in small planes in bad weather.

Sincerely,

Jimmy Valance
Patsy Cline
The Big Bopper
Buddy Holly
and others

Yonivore
11-23-2004, 11:20 AM
If the plane would have crashed 4 hours later it would have had 41 on it.
It also would have been taking off instead of landing... (always safer)

It also would have been leaving an area of bad weather instead of entering one... (I hear the weather in Ecuador was okay yesterday.)

I agree...a stretch.

Aggie Hoopsfan
11-23-2004, 01:20 PM
Yoni, your post assumes that weather was the cause.

He was over 900 feet lower than what he should have been at that point, those Gulfstreams have a pretty advanced nav package. Don't see how he could have been that far off without some other problems.

Yonivore
11-23-2004, 08:50 PM
Yoni, your post assumes that weather was the cause.
It also assumes the pilot would know, on takeoff, how far above the ground he was...

My point is that had he landed safely, in all probability, the flight would have resumed safely...or, the anomoly would have been duly noted and the flight scrubbed or the President placed on another plane. No harm, no foul.

He was over 900 feet lower than what he should have been at that point, those Gulfstreams have a pretty advanced nav package. Don't see how he could have been that far off without some other problems.
Had he not clipped the tower before getting below the clouds and actually seeing how far off his instrumentation were, this would have been noted on arrival at Hobby and, in all probability, the former President would have never boarded that plane in the first place.

Aggie Hoopsfan
11-23-2004, 10:54 PM
He didn't clip the tower, he clipped a light pole 120' above the ground on his way into said ground.

If it was a glitch it could have just as easily happened on the subsequent takeoff or landing. Until the NTSB gets done with it, we really don't know enough to say one way or the other.

Yonivore
11-23-2004, 11:24 PM
He didn't clip the tower, he clipped a light pole 120' above the ground on his way into said ground.

If it was a glitch it could have just as easily happened on the subsequent takeoff or landing. Until the NTSB gets done with it, we really don't know enough to say one way or the other.
d'okie dokie. But, I'm calling any "pole," 120 feet tall, a tower.

Nbadan
11-24-2004, 01:40 AM
HOUSTON - The pilot of a private jet was warned the plane was flying low minutes before it crashed en route to a scheduled landing in Houston to pick up former President Bush (news - web sites), a federal investigator said Tuesday.

An investigation is under way to find out what caused the Gulfstream G-1159A jet to go down Monday morning, killing a crew of three. The plane, which belonged to Jet Place Inc. of Tulsa, Okla., left Dallas an hour earlier and was to have picked up Bush, who lives in Houston, for a trip to Ecuador to give a speech at a business conference.

Mark Rosenker, vice chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board, said the control tower at Hobby Airport told crew members about three minutes before landing that winds were calm and their runway was clear.

"The controller talked with the aircraft approximately two minutes before the accident and asked them to check their altitude because they saw them at somewhere approximately 400 feet," said Rosenker.

It was not immediately known if the crew responded, NTSB officials said

Yahoo News (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041123/ap_on_re_us/jet_crash)