Charles Barkley is right with this one.

[carib]

The call on Stephen Jakson was bull shit.

"My mouth didn't open. I didn't say anything," he said. "If somebody wants to take that another way just because I'm Stephen Jackson, then so be it. But I was just getting my team motivated for the home game. I didn't say anything, I didn't do anything and I don't feel like I should've gotten kicked out."


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2007050106

The players needs to take a stand against the NBA.
Where and how does it stop?

[LEONARD]

Chuck said he wasn't looking at the ref...how do we know that?

[hater]

how do we know that?

do you have a tv? he was not looking at the ref.

Refs have been shitty for these later games in round 1.

[carib]

I am not a fan of Golden State, but I love the game, calls like this make the game hard to watch.

Stephen Jackson claps his hands and Jason Terry made a hard foul on the sideline.

Let the men play ball or call the game the same for every player.

I hope the league comes down on Jason Terry also, he should not be playing in the next game.

[SAGambler]

I am not a fan of Golden State, but I love the game, calls like this make the game hard to watch.

Stephen Jackson claps his hands and Jason Terry made a hard foul on the sideline.

Let the men play ball or call the game the same for every player.

I hope the league comes down on Jason Terry also, he should not be playing in the next game.

Yeah, I thought for sure that little stunt he pulled would have him suspended for at least the next game. But so far, no such news that I can find.

Funny though, how Davis and Jackson both seem to have to leave the game right at crunch time, twice now. Are the refs trying to insure Dallas doesn't get totally embarrased?

And this isn't "Jets" first infraction in a playoff game that is close. I think he should be suspended for the remainder of the playoffs.

[SpursFanFirst]

Yeah, I thought for sure that little stunt he pulled would have him suspended for at least the next game. But so far, no such news that I can find.

Funny though, how Davis and Jackson both seem to have to leave the game right at crunch time, twice now. Are the refs trying to insure Dallas doesn't get totally embarrased?

And this isn't "Jets" first infraction in a playoff game that is close. I think he should be suspended for the remainder of the playoffs.

I didn't see the foul he committed, but suspended for the remainder of the playoffs? That seems a tad harsh.

[carib]

This is one of the best Playoff seasons in years, please call the game right, and the same for all players and teams.

Make it the same for all the teams, a 1 or 8 seed.

[LilMissSPURfect]

Chuck said he wasn't looking at the ref...how do we know that?


give it a rest already........I thought we heard you on the last issue.....Mavs are the best...mavs don't commit fouls etc.....


I could care less about the mavs warriors series and saw the tail end of the game last night......i saw jax being Teeeeed for clapping.....i dunno what it is about all this bull happening @ AA arena.......REFS are prolly escorted by cuban through the BACK DOOR or something ......... :p:

[mabber]

The call on Stephen Jakson was bull shit.

"My mouth didn't open. I didn't say anything," he said. "If somebody wants to take that another way just because I'm Stephen Jackson, then so be it. But I was just getting my team motivated for the home game. I didn't say anything, I didn't do anything and I don't feel like I should've gotten kicked out."


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2007050106

The players needs to take a stand against the NBA.
Where and how does it stop?

Without a doubt it was a BS call/ejection but since Baron had been ejected for basically doing the same thing he should have not tempted fate. Nellie was obviously pissed off at him in that he volunteered to the press that he was fining him a substantial amount.

Regardless of it being a BS call, it just shows you how retarded SJax is. The dude has some serious mental issues.

[wildbill2u]

This will probably start up the old rumors that the refs follow League instructions in to favor teams with bigger TV markets in their officiating.

GS is probably a dead duck if Jackson can't play.

[Cry Havoc]

I am not a fan of Golden State, but I love the game, calls like this make the game hard to watch.

Stephen Jackson claps his hands and Jason Terry made a hard foul on the sideline.

Let the men play ball or call the game the same for every player.

I hope the league comes down on Jason Terry also, he should not be playing in the next game.

Yes. How is clapping your hands worthy of an ejection, but physically bodyslamming another player is not?

[SAGambler]

I didn't see the foul he committed, but suspended for the remainder of the playoffs? That seems a tad harsh.

He basically grabbed Davis and body slammed him to the floor, after the Mavs lost the ball out of bounds. I was surprised they didn't toss him right then.

And Monday night, with Mello throwing two elbows at Bowen and then finally being called for a foul after hitting Oberto with a third elblow.......I thought throwing an elblow was an automatic expulsion off the floor???? Did they toss that rule out this year? Or is is because it was "Melo" they just called an offensive foul and let him stay in the game?

Spurs are having to put up with some pretty rough calls. Don't know if Pop has told them just to play through it or what, but it does seem to be the order of the day. No whining about no calls. Just back down the floor and get on defense. Unlike the regular season where they wanted to take the time to jaw at the ref while the other team was scoring down the floor. Looks like they have gotten that part of their game together now too.

[SAGambler]

Yes. How is clapping your hands worthy of an ejection, but physically bodyslamming another player is not?

If I was the Commish, I would be asking that same question of the refs. And I would be taking some action against them as well.

That's twice now they have taken GSWs best players off the floor in crunch time.

Almost makes one wonder just WTF is going on up there.

[LEONARD]

do you have a tv? he was not looking at the ref.

Refs have been shitty for these later games in round 1.

The replay was from a mile away...there is NO WAY to know which way his eyes were looking...


I hope the league comes down on Jason Terry also, he should not be playing in the next game.

Come down on Terry for Davis's flop and acting job? Even Davis was laughing about it afterwards...


give it a rest already........I thought we heard you on the last issue.....Mavs are the best...mavs don't commit fouls etc...]/QUOTE]

WTF are you talking about exactly?? :wtf

[QUOTE=Cry Havoc]Yes. How is clapping your hands worthy of an ejection, but physically bodyslamming another player is not?

Body slamming... :lol

Unbelievable...


He basically grabbed Davis and body slammed him to the floor, after the Mavs lost the ball out of bounds. I was surprised they didn't toss him right then.

Wow... :lol

[Nashfan]

Yes. How is clapping your hands worthy of an ejection, but physically bodyslamming another player is not?


I agree with you here. Terry should be suspended for what he did to Davis. I saw a video of it on Phxsuns.net and it was intentional and around the head.

[Nashfan]

The replay was from a mile away...there is NO WAY to know which way his eyes were looking...



Come down on Terry for Davis's flop and acting job? Even Davis was laughing about it afterwards...



Body slamming... :lol

Unbelievable...



Wow... :lol

Go to Phxsuns.net and see the video of Terry's actions. If you call that a flop by Davis than you just cannot see past your nose.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

It looked like there may have been some floppery there. I'd be surprised to see a suspension come of it. It'll give the Warriors that much more of a chip on their shoulders. We saw what they did in Game 3 after they felt the refs jobbed them.

[SAGambler]

The replay was from a mile away...there is NO WAY to know which way his eyes were looking...



Come down on Terry for Davis's flop and acting job? Even Davis was laughing about it afterwards...



Body slamming... :lol

Unbelievable...



Wow... :lol

What is unbelieveable is that you can "spin" it to make Terry the "victim". Davis probably got up laughing because he couldn't believe Terry was still in the game. In fact, it's a wonder they didn't toss him for laughing.

And if it was so unbelieveable, why was a TF called on Terry...?

Open your eyes......Terry ain't no saint.....In fact he is a no class cunt that can't stand competition......See.....he is entitled to win.

[LEONARD]

http://gallery.upshizzle.com/albums/05.07/Video_0501-2326(CH-40).mpg.GIF

1. Baron Davis initiated the contact
2. Terry did reach around the back of his head, so why did Davis fall in that direction? Did Terry palm his neck and pull him down?? :lol
3. Terry did NOT "body slam" "leg sweep" or "pile drive" him like I'm reading here
4. Davis flopped AND grabbed his head...he sold it. Him and Terry were both being punks.
5. It's common sense people...it takes MUCH more than that to take a guy like Baron Davis down, especially when you consider the size difference between the 2 players.

[NBA Junkie]

Mavs homer strikes again.

[SpursFanFirst]

http://gallery.upshizzle.com/albums/05.07/Video_0501-2326(CH-40).mpg.GIF

1. Baron Davis initiated the contact
2. Terry did reach around the back of his head, so why did Davis fall in that direction? Did Terry palm his neck and pull him down?? :lol
3. Terry did NOT "body slam" "leg sweep" or "pile drive" him like I'm reading here
4. Davis flopped AND grabbed his head...he sold it. Him and Terry were both being punks.
5. It's common sense people...it takes MUCH more than that to take a guy like Baron Davis down, especially when you consider the size difference between the 2 players.

I don't know, Leonard. This is the first time I'm seeing it, and I must say, that's some pretty damning video.

[LEONARD]

I don't know, Leonard. This is the first time I'm seeing it, and I must say, that's some pretty damning video.

In what way? Explain to me how Terry could put his hand on the back of Davis' neck and pull him to the ground???

[SpursFanFirst]

In what way? Explain to me how Terry could put his hand on the back of Davis' neck and pull him to the ground???

To me, before the video is zoomed in, it looks like Terry uses his knees in a way to help knock him off his feet.
Again, that's my take...it doesn't look innocent.

[Taco]

In what way? Explain to me how Terry could put his hand on the back of Davis' neck and pull him to the ground???

To me it looks like he Cup's his hand around Davis' Neck and other arm (can't really tell, but) appears to be around the waist area

[LEONARD]

To me, before the video is zoomed in, it looks like Terry uses his knees in a way to help knock him off his feet.
Again, that's my take...it doesn't look innocent.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't see that at all. He would've had to put one leg behind Davis and put push on his throat to even come close to making Davis do what he did.

Look at Davis holding his face on the ground...wtf?


To me it looks like he Cup's his hand around Davis' Neck and other arm (can't really tell, but) appears to be around the waist area

and none of that (even if true) is going to allow Terry to do that to Davis...

Davis a hoss...he sold it completely...

[41times]

Charles Barkley was right about one thing he said on Monday.........Mavs in 7!

[spurster]

This shows that the NBA was wrong about calling techs on complaining players. You end up having the refs deciding games based on who they think is showing them up, including laughing and clapping and looking at them.

[LakerLanny]

This is one of the best Playoff seasons in years, please call the game right, and the same for all players and teams.

Make it the same for all the teams, a 1 or 8 seed.

^That seems to be the impossible dream in the NBA.

It is notable that once the writing was on the wall that the Mavs were about to be eliminated in 5 games (thus depriving the NBA of much needed big ratings for Game 6 and/or 7) every single call and no call went the Mavs way until the outcome was decided.

Just atrocioius officiating from Bernie Fryer and Kenny "Slick" Maurer in particular. Just awful and it decided the game and maybe the series.

The no call on Nowitzki's OBVIOUS hack of Richardson with 22 seconds left was the single worst no call or bad call of the playoffs so far. And that is saying something as the officiating (as usual) has been biased and atrocious.

[Cry Havoc]

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't see that at all. He would've had to put one leg behind Davis and put push on his throat to even come close to making Davis do what he did.

Look at Davis holding his face on the ground...wtf?

and none of that (even if true) is going to allow Terry to do that to Davis...

Davis a hoss...he sold it completely...

Have you ever been pushed or knocked off balance when you weren't expecting it? It's not difficult to take someone down. You don't need to be a big fellow to take someone down who's going for a basketball and has no idea it's coming.

[SAGambler]

That's just how Terry stops fast breaks. Po little baby really didn't do anything out of the ordinary......

Someone needs laser eye surgery.....

[Cry Havoc]

5. It's common sense people...it takes MUCH more than that to take a guy like Baron Davis down, especially when you consider the size difference between the 2 players.

My uncle outweighs me by 140 pounds and I would have no problem putting him on his ass if I caught him unawares. Nice try, though. You're definitely unbiased in the situation. :rolleyes

[SAGambler]

This shows that the NBA was wrong about calling techs on complaining players. You end up having the refs deciding games based on who they think is showing them up, including laughing and clapping and looking at them.

Yep. This has gone way too far. Now the refs ego is what decides games.

[LEONARD]

Have you ever been pushed or knocked off balance when you weren't expecting it? It's not difficult to take someone down. You don't need to be a big fellow to take someone down who's going for a basketball and has no idea it's coming.


My uncle outweighs me by 140 pounds and I would have no problem putting him on his ass if I caught him unawares. Nice try, though. You're definitely unbiased in the situation. :rolleyes

I'm not saying that you have to be bigger than somebody to take them down, even if they're not expecting it. I'm saying that what Terry did was nothing compared to Davis' reaction / flop and then holding of his face to sell what was happening. They were both being punks, but there is NO WAY Terry should be suspended for this...

If Terry stuck his leg behind him and shoved him (in the chest or throat!) and put him on his ass I'd be the first to say that it was a stupid move and he should be suspended. This is a complete joke and I can't believe that people can't see what happened.

[diego]

and even if davis flopped, what is terry doing grabbing him by the neck when the ball is out of play? i think thats the main thing that makes it suspension worthy

[Dave McNulla]

And this isn't "Jets" first infraction in a playoff game that is close. I think he should be suspended for the remainder of the playoffs.
that's completely idiotic. he may have pushed davis, but his goal wasn't attacking davis (unlike the nut-punch). he was trying to get around davis. i'd feel a one game suspension would be the harshest i could go. maybe not even that, i have to see it again.

[LEONARD]

and even if davis flopped, what is terry doing grabbing him by the neck when the ball is out of play? i think thats the main thing that makes it suspension worthy

Davis bumped into him slightly and Terry reached around to try to get around him in a crowded space...

[dougp]

Terry pushes a dude into the ground ... whether he was trying to get up, or it was intentional - it shouldn't have happened. He's becoming more dirty, nut-punching Finley last year, and this? Suspension please.

[LEONARD]

Terry pushes a dude into the ground ... whether he was trying to get up, or it was intentional - it shouldn't have happened. He's becoming more dirty, nut-punching Finley last year, and this? Suspension please.

How can you push a dude backwards to the ground with your hand BEHIND them? :dizzy

[jmard5]

How can you push a dude backwards to the ground with your hand BEHIND them? :dizzy

Quit defending Jason Terry. He should not have done that in the first place.

[spursfan09]

Great all the Mav fans are back, just cause they escaped with a win. Anyway if the refs want to throw players out for laughing and clapping. then y can't they throw out a player who pushed Baron down the way JT did. To me a player giving that kind of physical contact, is 10 times worse then clapping... but thats just me....

[LEONARD]

Quit defending Jason Terry. He should not have done that in the first place.

Yes, Terry shouldn't have put his arm behind Davis and Davis shouldn't have tried to go thru him to get to the ball. Neither gave ground and both were being punks, but Terry did NOT push him down...


Great all the Mav fans are back, just cause they escaped with a win. Anyway if the refs want to throw players out for laughing and clapping. then y can't they throw out a player who pushed Baron down the way JT did. To me a player giving that kind of physical contact, is 10 times worse then clapping... but thats just me....

I never left...

Maybe you can explain to me how it's physically possible to push somebody down backwards with your arm behind them... :wtf

[dougp]

Why explain when we have a video to prove that he did it?

I seriously wish all the Mavs fans would dissapear from the forums ...

[spursfan09]

You are missing my point. even if JT wasn't strong enough to push him down in the first place.. physical contact against players that is intentional like that should be punished, if clapping and laughing is going to punished by being thrown out.

[LEONARD]

Why explain when we have a video to prove that he did it?

The only video I've seen shows a wicked flop by Davis...maybe there is another that I'm missing?


You are missing my point. even if JT wasn't strong enough to push him down in the first place.. physical contact against players that is intentional like that should be punished, if clapping and laughing is going to punished by being thrown out.

Terry didn't initiate the contact out of bounds...him and Davis both intentionally contacted the other IMO. (ie, they were being punks...like I've been saying)

[Spurminator]

You are missing my point. even if JT wasn't strong enough to push him down in the first place.. physical contact against players that is intentional like that should be punished, if clapping and laughing is going to punished by being thrown out.


It was punished, he received a technical.

[mardigan]

If anyone should be suspended its the f-ing refs who gave Baron his 5th and 6th foul, that changed the game immensely and both calls were horrendous.

[spursfan09]

No its obvious to see that JT was the main culprit, I'm not gonna say antyhing anymore because as a Mav fan you are gonna see what you wanna see, and secondly I don't really care who is being thrown out of games between the Mavs and Warriors when it comes down to it, I am a spurs fan. If JT did this to someone like Manu or Tony then I would be taking it alot more serious.

[spursfan09]

It was punished, he received a technical.

be punished by recieving an ejection just like when somebody claps or laughs. I thought I was obvious in what I was trying to say but I guess not.

[Spurminator]

Why do you want to compound the problem of ridiculous ejections for clapping?

[mardigan]

be punished by recieving an ejection just like when somebody claps or laughs. I thought I was obvious in what I was trying to say but I guess not.
Thats a good point, S-Jax gets two t's for laughing and clapping, terry gets one t for throwing a player on the floor (intentional or not), something smells rotten

[etex211]

Funny though, how Davis and Jackson both seem to have to leave the game right at crunch time, twice now. Are the refs trying to insure Dallas doesn't get totally embarrased?


Davis fouled out of last night's game. Are you saying that we should change the rules for him to allow him to play with six fouls?

[mabber]

The only video I've seen shows a wicked flop by Davis...maybe there is another that I'm missing?



Terry didn't initiate the contact out of bounds...him and Davis both intentionally contacted the other IMO. (ie, they were being punks...like I've been saying)

Give it up. Don't you know by now that if the Mavs win, it must be because of the refs. :rolleyes There's no point in arguing it with most of these posters.

[easjer]

Well, as I told SFIE just now - you are entitled to your (wrong) opinion.

I do not, however, think it is suspension worthy.

[LEONARD]

Give it up. Don't you know by now that if the Mavs win, it must be because of the refs. :rolleyes There's no point in arguing it with most of these posters.

Oh, I'm fully aware of that little bit by Spurs fans...

I'm just glad the video could stop the talk of "body slams" "pile drivers" and "leg sweeps" :lol

:dizzy

[mardigan]

Davis fouled out of last night's game. Are you saying that we should change the rules for him to allow him to play with six fouls?
No he is saying that the last two fouls on Davis were bullshit, which any decently smart fan could tell you.

[mardigan]

Give it up. Don't you know by now that if the Mavs win, it must be because of the refs. :rolleyes There's no point in arguing it with most of these posters.
Its a Spurs board Chief, of course most people on it are biased

[etex211]

No he is saying that the last two fouls on Davis were bullshit, which any decently smart fan could tell you.


Nobody ever fouls the Mavs, right?

[sammy]

Jason Terry is a thug and classless! If you are going to throw a player out for clapping, then this a-hole should be thrown out as well! The video does not lie! This idiot should be suspended! Potential injury and the refs let him get away with it!

[sprrs]

Davis bumped into him slightly and Terry reached around to try to get around him in a crowded space...

Terry Grabbed the back of his neck and pulled his arms down. Terry was trying to create space alright. Whether he was physically capable of it or not, he did try.

Even if Davis did flop, which he did, you don't think Terry trying to physically injure another player doesn't deserve some kind of punishment other than a T?

If someone were to attempt murder, but failed, they shouldn't be convicted?

[mardigan]

Nobody ever fouls the Mavs, right?
Didnt say that, but when was the last time in the crucial moments of a game you have seen a important Mav foul out or get thrown out. Yea, homecourt advantage and such, but if you seriously think that Baron earned those last two calls youve got blinders on

[johnut32]

Wow, this mavs victory is bringing out the worst in Spurs fans.

That video depicts Baron Davis initiating contact with Terry from behind during a dead ball. Terry reacts by pushing as well and everyone (spurs fans) thinks the guy should be suspended? Good Lord. It's ok Spurs fans. GS still has a chance to knock off the defending western conference champs.

[etex211]

Didnt say that, but when was the last time in the crucial moments of a game you have seen a important Mav foul out or get thrown out. Yea, homecourt advantage and such, but if you seriously think that Baron earned those last two calls youve got blinders on


The Mavs finally did what they should have been doing for the entire series. They started running the ball at him to make him play defense.

[LEONARD]

Potential injury and the refs let him get away with it!

wow... :lol


Terry Grabbed the back of his neck and pulled his arms down. Terry was trying to create space alright. Whether he was physically capable of it or not, he did try.

Even if Davis did flop, which he did, you don't think Terry trying to physically injure another player doesn't deserve some kind of punishment other than a T?

If someone were to attempt murder, but failed, they shouldn't be convicted?

Ok, I'm DONE. No, Terry wasn't trying to injure Davis...unbelievable...

Murder? Seriously dude...wtf?

[johnut32]

Didnt say that, but when was the last time in the crucial moments of a game you have seen a important Mav foul out or get thrown out. Yea, homecourt advantage and such, but if you seriously think that Baron earned those last two calls youve got blinders on

Terry was suspended for game 6 of last years spur's series. The spurs needed to win that game to avoid elimination. Clearly, the league office favors the spurs. See how easy that is.

[LilMissSPURfect]

Whatever the "reasoning" whatever the "force" i don't see MAVS pulling it out of game 6. Mavs fans are just stretching for the lifeline.......

[spursfan09]

Its a Spurs board Chief, of course most people on it are biased

Yeah no kidding, and you can bet that If one the Mavs got ejected for clapping then they would be having a heart attack and complaining about the refs along with thier owner. Just like they were in the finals last year.

[johnut32]

Yeah no kidding, and you can bet that If one the Mavs got ejected for clapping then they would be having a heart attack and complaining about the refs along with thier owner. Just like they were in the finals last year.

Ok, then I'd quit posturing as an UNBIASED observer.

[sprrs]

wow... :lol



Ok, I'm DONE. No, Terry wasn't trying to injure Davis...unbelievable...

Murder? Seriously dude...wtf?

You know what I meant with that reference, stop trying to play the victim, it's failing.

Terry has had a history of being a thug, you seriously think he wasn't trying to injure Davis. He didn't exactly look all that surprised by the tech either.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

http://gallery.upshizzle.com/albums/05.07/Video_0501-2326(CH-40).mpg.GIF



1. I have a "Jet" poster above my bed, he's the greatest.
2. Mavs never foul anyone.
3. The league has it out for the Mavs, which is why Baron Davis initiated the contact and then flopped.
4. I'm a clueless homer.

[etex211]

If I remember correctly, the T on Terry was for delay of game, not for anything he did to Davis.

You can't read much into Terry's reaction to the foul. Avery has given the team strict orders to not react to fouls.

[sprrs]

If I remember correctly, the T on Terry was for delay of game, not for anything he did to Davis.

You can't read much into Terry's reaction to the foul. Avery has given the team strict orders to not react to fouls.

Which they are obviously following, judging by their reactions.
Maybe you're right about the delay of game, I didn't catch that part, but Terry clearly intended to hurt Davis, who clearly flopped.

[703 Spurz]

Davis bumped into him slightly and Terry reached around to try to get around him in a crowded space...

How do you know this? Did Terry call you during a timeout and let you know? Jackass you'll always stick up for what the Mavs do. Hell they can go out and samarai sword random fans and you won't blame them.

GS in 6

[spursfan09]

Ok, then I'd quit posturing as an UNBIASED observer.

If you read my posts, I don't agree with the posters who say that JT should of be suspended, and I don't think he should of been thrown out. just like I didn't think Jackson should. I just think its stupid the way Mavs fans want us to give in and take the mavs side when obviously what JT did had no good intentions

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

How do you know this? Did Terry call you during a timeout and let you know? Jackass you'll always stick up for what the Mavs do. Hell they can go out and samarai sword random fans and you won't blame them.

GS in 6

You can't reason with Leonard. The dipshit thinks Crawford's ejection of Duncan for laughing was a legitimate call.

[LEONARD]

You can't reason with Leonard. The dipshit thinks Crawford's ejection of Duncan for laughing was a legitimate call.

You and a dozen other dipshits completely missed the boat on the points I made in that argument...

[LilMissSPURfect]

You and a dozen other dipshits completely missed the boat on the points I made in that argument...


i thought u said u were out? :dizzy :dizzy and WE are the confused souls? :p:

[jmard5]

You and a dozen other dipshits completely missed the boat on the points I made in that argument...

Hey Leonard, so what Jason Terry did on Baron Davis is OK with you? That it is part of the game?

[LEONARD]

i thought u said u were out? :dizzy :dizzy and WE are the confused souls? :p:

This thread (and this forum) are like a car wreck...I can't stop looking...

I was out til AggiesHoopsDouche chimed in with BS...

[LEONARD]

Hey Leonard, so what Jason Terry did on Baron Davis is OK with you? That it was part of the game?

Like I said, he was being a punk as was Davis. But IMO, he didn't do anything to Davis but put his arm around him while trying to get back onto the court...

[sprrs]

Like I said, he was being a punk as was Davis. But IMO, he didn't do anything to Davis but put his arm around him while trying to get back onto the court...

I used to think you were one of the better Mavs posters here, but you're looking like a complete homer if you think Terry was innocent.

[LEONARD]

I used to think you were one of the better Mavs posters here, but you're looking like a complete homer if you think Terry was innocent.

Dude, I've stated from the get go that Terry was being a PUNK...that's not innocent, is it?

If he had put his hand in Davis' chest and a leg behind him and decked him, them I'm all for a suspension. He didn't do shit...Davis' flopping and acting is the only thing that is making this a topic...

[johnut32]

Hey Leonard, so what Jason Terry did on Baron Davis is OK with you? That it is part of the game?

I think the response was appropriate. However, I would have assessed a technical on Davis as well. The entire GS teams is consistently doing assorted shenanigans during dead balls. Most of the time, the camera doesn't pick this stuff up.

[LilMissSPURfect]

This thread (and this forum) are like a car wreck...I can't stop looking...

I was out til AggiesHoopsDouche chimed in with BS...


I don't want to ruin it for ya...but let it go...i don't care much for the mavs or any other team opposing my GODOBILI lead time :toast BUT

There's nothing We can do about it now.....game 5 went to the mavs....now lets move to game 6 .... Leonard, I suggest you guys go get u some beers paint yourself blue and cheer on your mavs!

[Obstructed_View]

The entire GS teams is consistently doing assorted shenanigans during dead balls. Most of the time, the camera doesn't pick this stuff up.
Then how do you know it's happening? Did Miss Cleo tell you?

[LEONARD]

I don't want to ruin it for ya...but let it go...i don't care much for the mavs or any other team opposing my GODOBILI lead time :toast BUT

There's nothing We can do about it now.....game 5 went to the mavs....now lets move to game 6 .... Leonard, I suggest you guys go get u some beers paint yourself blue and cheer on your mavs!

Will do, for game 7 ;)

[johnut32]

Then how do you know it's happening? Did Miss Cleo tell you?

Lets see...I've been to all three games in Dallas.

[sprrs]

Dude, I've stated from the get go that Terry was being a PUNK...that's not innocent, is it?

If he had put his hand in Davis' chest and a leg behind him and decked him, them I'm all for a suspension. He didn't do shit...Davis' flopping and acting is the only thing that is making this a topic...

Well I think it's evident that Terry was at least trying to knock down Davis. Had he just put his arm around him and pushed him away, that would have been that. But he threw his arms downward while still holding Davis. He didn't even look back to see what happened. He was pissed.

[Obstructed_View]

Lets see...I've been to all three games in Dallas.


So define some of these shenanigans that you've seen firsthand. Since you think Duncan deserved to be tossed, and you think JT didn't do anything wrong and you think Baron Davis deserved a T just for being on the receiving end of a body slam, this should be entertaining.

BTW, if you watch the video, JT takes baron's legs out with his knees as he pulls him off balance. It was a takedown.

[johnut32]

So define some of these shenanigans that you've seen firsthand. Since you think Duncan deserved to be tossed, and you think JT didn't do anything wrong and you think Baron Davis deserved a T just for being on the receiving end of a body slam, this should be entertaining.

BTW, if you watch the video, JT takes baron's legs out with his knees as he pulls him off balance. It was a takedown.


The same sort of things you saw in that video. Mostly contact after the whistle blows. I don't think Duncan deserved to be tossed. I did think he deserved a t though. I think JT should not have pushed Davis but Davis should not have initiated contact.

[RiverwalkParade]

Will do, for game 7 ;)

Of what series? Sorry to say this Leonard, but no more Mavs basketball for you. What's worse is that Jason Terry threw Davis down like he was in some Steven Seagal movie and walked off like a true thug would. Though I agree that Baron Davis should have also received a T for initiating the contact, Terry's reaction was a clear venting of 4 1/2 games worth of pent up frustration. It was too violent to be overlooked by the league, but unfortunately the league will more than likely turn the other cheek.

The true test for Golden State going in to this series was not being the 8 seed against a 1 seed. They have clearly overcome that. There challenge is being a Golden State team with players with questionable track records with the league, a band of thugs if you will, taking on a team with the league's MVP, a charasmatic coach and a large fan base that the league is clearly beginning to favor in the playoffs. The good news is that they are focused on the task at hand and will end this series tomorrow night.

I hope Terry plays. I hope Dallas wins. Nothing would be more satisfying than to get a rematch of last year's series. I just don't think it will happen. Like a true Spurs fan, I want a "fair shake" in these playoffs and hope to see the games called straight up. Clapping in a condescending manner and being ejected for it is irresponsible of the refs and they should be ashamed. I know 10 year olds that are more mature than to be hurt by something like that.

Dallas fans, stop defending Jet Terry. This is a poorly officiated series where the Mavs got a 26-13 advantage in free throws for the second half. If that doesn't say something right there, I'm not sure what does. not to mention the two PFs on Jackson within the first 2 minutes.

GS in 6, then they get swept by the Rockets. Sorry Dallas, we'll have to see you next year.

[Obstructed_View]

The same sort of things you saw in that video. Mostly contact after the whistle blows. I don't think Duncan deserved to be tossed. I did think he deserved a t though. I think JT should not have pushed Davis but Davis should not have initiated contact.
What I saw in that video was Baron Davis getting thrown to the floor. Damn Warriors and their shenanigans. Just like Manu initiating contact with JR Smith the other night. Flopper. :rolleyes

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/GeneralPurpose/Spurstalk/mfftl.jpg

[johnut32]

What I saw in that video was Baron Davis getting thrown to the floor. Damn Warriors and their shenanigans. Just like Manu initiating contact with JR Smith the other night. Flopper. :rolleyes

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/GeneralPurpose/Spurstalk/mfftl.jpg

http://www.tylock.com/html/postop.html

Ask for the Mavs discount.

[monosylab1k]

i just wish our dirty thug could hit a wide open jump shot every so often.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

I wish the mavs fan on SpursTalk were half as quiet as the mavs fans at the game last night.

[Obstructed_View]

They are only loud after a win, unless it's to complain about whoever's to blame for the loss. Rarely, if ever, the team on the floor.

[spursfan09]

The only reason I hate the Mavs so much is because of their fans. I also strongly dislike Mark Cuban, and Dirk is alright I guess, but he sure does know how to display a ton of arrogance even when he has accomplished nothing.

[Obstructed_View]

Mark Cuban ruined the Mavericks.

[hater]

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/celeb-profiles-model/jessica-alba/pictures/jessica-alba-picture-1.jpg = $$$$$$$$

[RiverwalkParade]

The only reason I hate the Mavs so much is because of their fans.


I'm going to have to go ahead and agree with you on this one... I live in Dallas and nothing makes me more angry than a bunch of flip flopping fans that look for the easy way out. Just read the NBA insider about the league investigating the JRich tangle with the fan and a bunch of guys I work with are like, "That's a good fan. Hell yeah! I want to suck that dude's dick. etc.." It's disgusting to see a fan base that wants to take the low road, that will defend an obvious suspension worthy act like hitting another player in the nuts, and will tune out the season until the Cowboys are done playing. I hate those guys. I'm alright with the team. I love Avery as the coach and they always provide a good game when they play us. Great rivalry, just have no respect for their fans....

And que the Mavs fans saying we whine, complain, blah, blah, blah

[Trainwreck2100]

Mark Cuban ruined the Mavericks.

Mark Cuban made that team who they are, his inability to not be a douchebag ruined the team

[mabber]

The only reason I hate the Mavs so much is because of their fans. I also strongly dislike Mark Cuban, and Dirk is alright I guess, but he sure does know how to display a ton of arrogance even when he has accomplished nothing.

??? Dirk arrogant ??? The guy is humble to a fault. I wish he'd show a lot more arrogance and/or selfishness. He's still a very timid, shy & incredibly humble guy which is amazing for a player as good as he is. I'm amazed that anyone would have that perception of him.

[Drive Like Jehu]

Mav fan seems a bit more chatty today....

Fair weathers.

[Taco]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/GeneralPurpose/Spurstalk/mfftl.jpg

:lol

[mabber]

http://www.tylock.com/html/postop.html

Ask for the Mavs discount.

Who's face is that imposed on JET's face?

[Fillmoe]

http://gallery.upshizzle.com/albums/05.07/Video_0501-2326(CH-40).mpg.GIF

1. Baron Davis initiated the contact
2. Terry did reach around the back of his head, so why did Davis fall in that direction? Did Terry palm his neck and pull him down?? :lol
3. Terry did NOT "body slam" "leg sweep" or "pile drive" him like I'm reading here
4. Davis flopped AND grabbed his head...he sold it. Him and Terry were both being punks.
5. It's common sense people...it takes MUCH more than that to take a guy like Baron Davis down, especially when you consider the size difference between the 2 players.


in that clip sarunas and biedrins were clapping.... why didnt they get ejected?

[monosylab1k]

in that clip sarunas and biedrins were clapping.... why didnt they get ejected?

refs don't call fouls on white guys.

[Taco]

Who's face is that imposed on JET's face?

George Jefferson :lol

(Sherman Hemsley)

[G-Nob]

Game 5 is only prolonging the inevitable.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

I'm going to have to go ahead and agree with you on this one... I live in Dallas and nothing makes me more angry than a bunch of flip flopping fans that look for the easy way out. Just read the NBA insider about the league investigating the JRich tangle with the fan and a bunch of guys I work with are like, "That's a good fan. Hell yeah! I want to suck that dude's dick. etc.." It's disgusting to see a fan base that wants to take the low road, that will defend an obvious suspension worthy act like hitting another player in the nuts, and will tune out the season until the Cowboys are done playing. I hate those guys. I'm alright with the team. I love Avery as the coach and they always provide a good game when they play us. Great rivalry, just have no respect for their fans....

And que the Mavs fans saying we whine, complain, blah, blah, blah
:lol

This whole panic attack about a possible suspension on terry is very similar to mavsfans' blanket denial of the nut punch last year. I remeber calling the radio station here in austin cause the mavs homerism from the hosts was out of control. The hosts were crying about the "alleged" punch and saying how Finley was a baby and so were the whole Spurs organization for sending a tape to the league office. I told the producer that I just wanted to give the conversation some balance and say "lets see what the tape shows, etc..." He just hung up on me. The next day after the tape came out, NOT A WORD. Mavs fans are retarded. Cuban is the perfect owner for that fan base, arrogant, rich, ugly, and whiney. Too bad, cause I always USED to like the mavs. I hope Avery gets a job somewhere else quick.

[carib]

http://gallery.upshizzle.com/albums/05.07/Video_0501-2326(CH-40).mpg.GIF

1. Baron Davis initiated the contact
2. Terry did reach around the back of his head, so why did Davis fall in that direction? Did Terry palm his neck and pull him down?? :lol
3. Terry did NOT "body slam" "leg sweep" or "pile drive" him like I'm reading here
4. Davis flopped AND grabbed his head...he sold it. Him and Terry were both being punks.
5. It's common sense people...it takes MUCH more than that to take a guy like Baron Davis down, especially when you consider the size difference between the 2 players.


Can I get you to show both videos side by side please, with the take down and the clapping of the hands by Stephen Jackson.

[LEONARD]

Nothing for Terry or Jackson...I guess the league reviewed it and saw what a great flop / acting job it was by Davis too...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/warriors/index?

The Morning After update: J-Rich under investigation, Jackson won't be fined or suspended
From Janny Hu in Dallas.

Here's the latest as of Tuesday afternoon from American Airlines Center, where the Warriors just practiced before flying home.

The league is still investigating Jason Richardson's encounter with a Mavericks fan following his three-point attempt with about 20 seconds left in Game 5. Richardson's momentum carried him into the front-row seats and he got tangled up with a fan, who later went to NBA security about how testy things got as Richardson tried to extract himself and get back down the court.

Richardson brushed off the incident this morning, saying that "nothing really happened," no words or shoves were exchanged either way, and that he hadn't spoken to league officials yet.

As for Stephen Jackson, who was thrown out after just one technical foul for clapping with 8.9 seconds to go, I just got word from the league that he's in the clear. No fines. No suspension. The NBA isn't looking into anything.

Same goes for Jason Terry, who received his own technical foul for taking down Baron Davis on the sidelines earlier in the game.

[monosylab1k]

Nothing for Terry or Jackson...I guess the league reviewed it and saw what a great flop / acting job it was by Davis too....

no, it's a conspiracy. that's the only logical solution.

[Shank]

I liked Sarunas swinging his towel at Dirk when he was taking his last 3. That was cute, you little Mateen Cleaves Start Up Kit.

[LEONARD]

I liked Sarunas swinging his towel at Dirk when he was taking his last 3. That was cute, you little Mateen Cleaves Start Up Kit.

Yea, I'm looking for a youtube of that...and him taking a swing at the equipment guy that tried to stop him from doing it... :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Mark Cuban made that team who they are, his inability to not be a douchebag ruined the team
The largest myth in the modern NBA. What exactly did he do? Finley, Nash and Dirk were already with the team when he bought it, and construction of the new arena was underway. Mark Cuban signed Dennis Rodman, and the resulting losing streak kept the Mavs out of the playoffs that year. Cuban created an environment of blaming officiating for losses, poor sportsmanship and embarassing displays of immaturity. He let Steve Nash go because he was over the hill, he screwed Don Nelson out of the money he owed him, he takes personal shots at the opposing teams, and he lobbied to change the rules to open the offense that many believe cost his team in the NBA finals.

I suppose, technically, that Mark Cuban indeed made the Mavericks who they are, but it's unfortunate that he did. He took a promising team with potential and remade them in his image.

[DubMcDub]

Funny though, how Davis and Jackson both seem to have to leave the game right at crunch time, twice now. Are the refs trying to insure Dallas doesn't get totally embarrassed

Crunch time? Jax was suspended with 8 seconds left and the Mavs up 6. Davis fouled out with less than 24 seconds left and the Mavs up as well.

[dav4463]

J.Richardson was fouled on his 3 pt attempt (dirk would have got the call if he was shooting)...then Davis phantom foul....then S.Jax tossed for nothing...and Terry can slam a guy down without getting ejected.....Dirk shoots 15 free throws when he barely went in the paint the whole game....and mav fans can honestly say there was no homer officiating? Did you defend Terry's punch to Finley's balls last year too?

[Obstructed_View]

Did you defend Terry's punch to Finley's balls last year too?
Actually...they did.

[ratm1221]

Dude, all these Mav Fans need to just shut up! Why can't you just understand that the only way the Mavs ever win is when they cheat and pay off the refs. Ya'll are so stupid if you think otherwise. Refs love the Mavs, simple as that. No point in arguing. After all, how could the refs not love a team that has an owner that is constantly complaining about them. Duh!

[Obstructed_View]

Dude, all these Mav Fans need to just shut up! Why can't you just understand that the only way the Mavs ever win is when they cheat and pay off the refs. Ya'll are so stupid if you think otherwise. Refs love the Mavs, simple as that. No point in arguing. After all, how could the refs not love a team that has an owner that is constantly complaining about them. Duh!
The point that you and your ilk are missing is this: the Mavs fans blame the officiating when they lose (Miami Heat), but then claim to be the superior team when they win (Spurs, Suns). Spurs fans have been trying to corner Mavs fans in that hypocrisy forever, but the overwhelming majority of Mavericks fans simply lack the fundamental basketball knowledge necessary to understand it or would rather throw sarcasm-soaked strawman arguments about.

[ratm1221]

The point that you and your ilk are missing is this: the Mavs fans blame the officiating when they lose (Miami Heat), but then claim to be the superior team when they win (Spurs, Suns). Spurs fans have been trying to corner Mavs fans in that hypocrisy forever, but the overwhelming majority of Mavericks fans simply lack the fundamental basketball knowledge necessary to understand it or would rather throw sarcasm-soaked strawman arguments about.

Your screen names is very fitting becauase you obiviously do have an Obstructed View. The Miami argument is lame and old. The officiating was horrible in the finals last year. But that doesn't mean I think it was some kind of consipiracy. And even if that is your view, maybe you should be the better man and not do the same damn thing. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

[ratm1221]

the Mavs fans blame the officiating when they lose (Miami Heat)

And feel free to find some posts of mavs fans blaming the officiating other than last year's finals to back up your opinion.

[ratm1221]

Mavericks fans simply lack the fundamental basketball knowledge necessary to understand it or would rather throw sarcasm-soaked strawman arguments about.

I guess we should all just give up and agree with you automatically when you are bashing our team for the refs calls that we have no contol over just because you are the all-knowing basketball guru. We all here are idiots by far compared to your vast knowledge of basketball. I'll sit in the corner now and think about what I have done.

[dallaskd]

Definately a bullshit call on jackson, but he has been warned before. The game was over. The ref was just trying to make a statement.

[Dro210]

I didn't see the foul he committed, but suspended for the remainder of the playoffs? That seems a tad harsh.

Not really, not since they only have 1 game left.... :lol

[dallaskd]

That .gif up there is priceless.

[hanto03]

mr. obstructed_view,

see what i have to deal with living in plano texas and supporting the SPURS. let's look at what has happened the last month in this arena. three wavs wins with the opponents key players ejected for clapping < and laffing > and the wavs slam dunking people into the hardwood with only a T. i think Golden State will take care of business tomorrow night. just as we will tonight.

[sammy]

Wow, this mavs victory is bringing out the worst in Spurs fans.

That video depicts Baron Davis initiating contact with Terry from behind during a dead ball. Terry reacts by pushing as well and everyone (spurs fans) thinks the guy should be suspended? Good Lord. It's ok Spurs fans. GS still has a chance to knock off the defending western conference champs.


Look at the video! This confirms this jackass is dirty and should be suspended!



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270501006
Check it out on the highlights.

[monosylab1k]

And feel free to find some posts of mavs fans blaming the officiating other than last year's finals to back up your opinion.

Unfortunately there's plenty of that. Lots of Mavs fans blaming it on the refs, myself included for a time before I started looking at it rationally.

I just don't get how the Finals had no officiating problems so Mav fan needs to STFU and stop whining, but there was a huge problem with officiating in the Mavs-Spurs series, and somehow that's not hypocritical. Mark Cuban yelling at David Stern about calls is classless, Bruce Bowen yelling at David Stern about calls is legitimate.

It's a circle of hypocrisy, it doesn't begin and end with the Mavs fans. They can deny it all they want since it's their message board, but it doesn't prevent it from being the truth.

[ratm1221]

Simple complaining about the refs is fine. But when you blame another team for the calls the refs made is just plain idiotic.

[temujin]

So how many more FTs must the Warriours shoot in Game 5 to EQUAL -not outnumber- those that the LOOSING team of this series has ALREADY shot?

30?
40?

Yet, the Bay Area ain't no damn small TV market!

[temujin]

Terry should be suspended.
Davis should be fined by his team for pretending he was hit on the face. Ridiculous.
The whole Warriors bench should be fined by the management for letting Terry touch a teammate without doing anything.

[edoubledwhy]

terry shouldn't get fined, just know that in the future when it ain't playoffs baron will smack him in the mouth for sure, he doesn't back down from nobody, not even KG (although he should)

jackson's lucky to still play in the league since they're so worried about image and what not

warriors in 6

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

:dizzy. A couple mavs fans posts in this thread give me a headache. How can you defend that Terry Dipshit?

You can rationalize anything!

[Kobulingam]

I don't get this. Within 4 hours after (usually 1 or 2 ) the end of a TNT INSIDE THE NBA episode it usually gets put up on nba.com/broadband.

But this last episode still hasn't made it's way up. What gives????

[Kobulingam]

To the poster (edoublewhy) above, Baron would beat the living meat out of KG in a fight.

[LEONARD]

J.Richardson was fouled on his 3 pt attempt (dirk would have got the call if he was shooting)...

:cry :cry :lol


then Davis phantom foul....

1. They needed to foul
2. There was contact
3. It's not the first time an official has anticipated an intentional foul in a situation like that


then S.Jax tossed for nothing...

Actually, he was tossed for being a prick / showing up the ref just like Davis was in game 2...


and Terry can slam a guy down without getting ejected....

"slam" :lol :lol


Dirk shoots 15 free throws when he barely went in the paint the whole game....and mav fans can honestly say there was no homer officiating? Did you defend Terry's punch to Finley's balls last year too?

5 of those were on intentional fouls at the end and techs...so 10 FT's is out of line??? :donkey

and I don't think I defended Terry...

[LEONARD]

and the wavs slam dunking people into the hardwood with only a T.

"slam dunking" :lol :lol :lol

UNBELIEVABLE :lol :lol :lol

[LEONARD]

terry shouldn't get fined, just know that in the future when it ain't playoffs baron will smack him in the mouth for sure, he doesn't back down from nobody, not even KG (although he should)

jackson's lucky to still play in the league since they're so worried about image and what not

warriors in 6

Right...but for now, he sure looked like a bitch flopping and faking a shot to the face... :lol

[Holmes_Fans]

Right...but for now, he sure looked like a bitch flopping and faking a shot to the face... :lol
Spur fan is just that pathetic. It's sad seeing how scared they are that Dallas might come back and win the series. They will deny it but they are scared to play Dallas in the WCF, they know they can roll over a team like Houston and GS. Typical of them to overreact to anything to do with Dallas and be as homerous as possible.

[LEONARD]

Spur fan is just that pathetic. It's sad seeing how scared they are that Dallas might come back and win the series. They will deny it but they are scared to play Dallas in the WCF, they know they can roll over a team like Houston and GS. Typical of them to overreact to anything to do with Dallas and be as homerous as possible.

The Mavs - Warriors watching party with Davis beards was pure gold... :fro

[to21]

Spur fan is just that pathetic. It's sad seeing how scared they are that Dallas might come back and win the series. They will deny it but they are scared to play Dallas in the WCF, they know they can roll over a team like Houston and GS. Typical of them to overreact to anything to do with Dallas and be as homerous as possible.

:rolleyes

The only thing that might be scared are exercise bikes around the Oracle arena tonight.

homerous?

:lol


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BTW, ur a dumbass!!

[Obstructed_View]

mr. obstructed_view,

see what i have to deal with living in plano texas and supporting the SPURS. let's look at what has happened the last month in this arena. three wavs wins with the opponents key players ejected for clapping < and laffing > and the wavs slam dunking people into the hardwood with only a T. i think Golden State will take care of business tomorrow night. just as we will tonight.
I live in Flower Mound. I have the same problem. They are just as stupid in person as they are on this message board. They don't seem to see the similarity in Dirk getting a bunch of free throws and Wade getting a bunch of free throws. Their argument is a completely different game where Duncan gets a bunch of free throws.

[Obstructed_View]

I just don't get how the Finals had no officiating problems so Mav fan needs to STFU and stop whining, but there was a huge problem with officiating in the Mavs-Spurs series, and somehow that's not hypocritical.
But it is hypocritical for anyone to argue that one is legitimate yet the other is not. Calling the finals karma or payback is in no way hypocritical.

[Obstructed_View]

ignoring the refs has to be the mantra.
If only you could live by that one...

[carib]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6767846

Spurstalk did the Job

[mabber]

I live in Flower Mound. I have the same problem. They are just as stupid in person as they are on this message board. They don't seem to see the similarity in Dirk getting a bunch of free throws and Wade getting a bunch of free throws. Their argument is a completely different game where Duncan gets a bunch of free throws.

Damn, I was hoping I was MORE stupid in person than on this message board. Oh well, something to work on.

[Kevin Blackistone]

I think we need to get to the heart of the matter.... we hate Mark Cuban. Fuck Mark Cuban. That's all.