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Kevin Blackistone
05-08-2007, 01:47 PM
It appears that the Spurs strategy is to take Nash's assist options away and make little Stevie take a ton of shots and basically take the offense onto himself. Will the Spurs be effective in this and make Nash take 25+ fg attempts this game? Can Phoenix win with Nash being the primary shooter and others not getting effectively involved?

Obstructed_View
05-08-2007, 01:55 PM
Nash has to shoot an ungodly percentage to score much more than he did in game 1. Seems like a pretty good strategy if the Spurs are playing well.

dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 02:02 PM
It appears that the Spurs strategy is to take Nash's assist options away and make little Stevie take a ton of shots and basically take the offense onto himself. Will the Spurs be effective in this and make Nash take 25+ fg attempts this game? Can Phoenix win with Nash being the primary shooter and others not getting effectively involved?

Did you see the Suns series a couple years ago when he had one of the best playoff series of any player of all time? The last 4 games of the 2005 conference semis against Dallas, Nash averaged 37.0 points, 11.5 assists and 7.0 rebounds. Is it possible, yes. Will it happen against the Spurs, I doubt it.

SAGambler
05-08-2007, 02:08 PM
Did you see the Suns series a couple years ago when he had one of the best playoff series of any player of all time? The last 4 games of the 2005 conference semis against Dallas, Nash averaged 37.0 points, 11.5 assists and 7.0 rebounds. Is it possible, yes. Will it happen against the Spurs, I doubt it.

But if Nash is having to put the ball up all the time, we can afford to give him 37 a game...

Oh, and that was against allas. Did they even play Defense in 2005?

Two things the Spurs need to do. Take the assists away and make Nash the primary shooter and guard the hell out of that three point line. We can't ever let the Suns get comfortable raining treys.

nkdlunch
05-08-2007, 02:10 PM
nash can win 1 game of the series by himself. that's about it.

DarrinS
05-08-2007, 02:10 PM
Well, since Nash makes that machine run, it makes sense to take him out (as best you can).

You see what they're reduced to when Nash in doing his tummy cruches or yoga or whatever the hell he's doing on the sideline on his back.

bdictjames
05-08-2007, 02:24 PM
Yes, Nash gets tired by that and their whole offense becomes stagnant. But Bowen on Nash and we'll see if he can get 10+ shots to fall down.

Id rather Amare shoot it all like ala 2005.

BigBeezie
05-08-2007, 02:29 PM
I agree. Our 2005 strategy worked to perfection...but after the Billups experiement with Bowen on him, then we way see a lot of that. Pop isn't afraid of the Suns offense and that is what I like.

Obstructed_View
05-08-2007, 02:32 PM
Did you see the Suns series a couple years ago when he had one of the best playoff series of any player of all time? The last 4 games of the 2005 conference semis against Dallas, Nash averaged 37.0 points, 11.5 assists and 7.0 rebounds. Is it possible, yes. Will it happen against the Spurs, I doubt it.
:lol The Suns averaged 118 points per game in that series. I predict (boldly) that if the Suns average 118 per game for the rest of the series, they'll win it.

dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 02:32 PM
Well, since Nash makes that machine run, it makes sense to take him out (as best you can).

You see what they're reduced to when Nash in doing his tummy cruches or yoga or whatever the hell he's doing on the sideline on his back.


Obviously you don't. It was widely published that in Game 1, the Suns were +12 with Nash on the bench, and -2 with him in the game. Barbosa is more than capable of taking over for Nash in stretches. He is still young though, as seen in the mistakes that he made at the end of Game 1. There is a reason why Barbosa is the 6th man, and that is part of the reason.

Being at the wrong end of the +/- stat is not common for Nash though.

dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 02:33 PM
:lol The Suns averaged 118 points per game in that series. I predict (boldly) that if the Suns average 118 per game for the rest of the series, they'll win it.

Nostradamus you are. :lol

Obstructed_View
05-08-2007, 02:34 PM
Obviously you don't. It was widely published that in Game 1, the Suns were +12 with Nash on the bench, and -2 with him in the game. Barbosa is more than capable of taking over for Nash in stretches. He is still young though, as seen in the mistakes that he made at the end of Game 1. There is a reason why Barbosa is the 6th man, and that is part of the reason.

Being at the wrong end of the +/- stat is not common for Nash though.
You cannot possibly believe that the Suns are remotely better without Nash. The plus minus numbers are an oddity; you should know as well as anyone that the Suns score the same way they give up points: a large amount at a time.

DarrinS
05-08-2007, 02:35 PM
Obviously you don't. It was widely published that in Game 1, the Suns were +12 with Nash on the bench, and -2 with him in the game. Barbosa is more than capable of taking over for Nash in stretches. He is still young though, as seen in the mistakes that he made at the end of Game 1. There is a reason why Barbosa is the 6th man, and that is part of the reason.

Being at the wrong end of the +/- stat is not common for Nash though.


Then I guess it works.

Obstructed_View
05-08-2007, 02:36 PM
Nostradamus you are. :lol
Thank you. I'm widely respected for my basketball knowledge. :lmao

dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 02:37 PM
You cannot possibly believe that the Suns are remotely better without Nash. The plus minus numbers are an oddity; you should know as well as anyone that the Suns score the same way they give up points: a large amount at a time.


In the long term, hell no. This is Nash's team. It is built around him.

He team doesn't crumble everytime he goes to the bench has posted above. I was refuting that.

dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 02:38 PM
Thank you. I'm widely respected for my basketball knowledge. :lmao

Explain to me why you only have $45 vBookie left? :lol

mardigan
05-08-2007, 02:39 PM
Explain to me why you only have $45 vBookie left? :lol
Because when you have fake money you bet it on bets you wouldnt make with real money

Obstructed_View
05-08-2007, 02:40 PM
Explain to me why you only have $45 vBookie left? :lol
Hey, I started with $25. Besides, knowledge has nothing to do with luck. I once gave a guy six touchdowns on the super bowl and won; my luck got all used up then.

dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 02:41 PM
Because when you have fake money you bet it on bets you wouldnt make with real money

My post was filled with sarcasm if you didn't detect it.

:lol

Obstructed_View
05-08-2007, 02:42 PM
Because when you have fake money you bet it on bets you wouldnt make with real money
Like longshots. I typically take the option that has the largest payoff for the risk. Those don't hit very often; I think I've gotten one.

dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 02:42 PM
Hey, I started with $25. Besides, knowledge has nothing to do with luck. I once gave a guy six touchdowns on the super bowl and won; my luck got all used up then.

Why do I get $500 then? The Spurs + 5 seems like good money to me. Off to put my bet down.

mardigan
05-08-2007, 02:44 PM
Why do I get $500 then? The Spurs + 5 seems like good money to me. Off to put my bet down.
You start out with 500 when you become a member, but after you lose it all (like I did with 3 grand on Super Bowl bets), you start out with 25 again. I have only recently been able to turn mine into a decent amount with some good playoff picks

Obstructed_View
05-08-2007, 02:45 PM
Why do I get $500 then? The Spurs + 5 seems like good money to me. Off to put my bet down.
You start with $500. When you go down to zero you get $25. And then when I just start to get ahead, Kori resets it and starts everyone over at $500.

Obstructed_View
05-08-2007, 02:46 PM
Also when you have money on an open bet it no longer shows up in your cash amount.







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dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 02:48 PM
I have all $500 on the Spurs + 5. I am expecting another Suns loss. I don't know how the Suns will win a close one against this team. They haven't been able to do it as far as I can remember.

dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 02:48 PM
Also when you have money on an open bet it no longer shows up in your cash amount.







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I see that now.

Suck My Blurr
05-08-2007, 02:50 PM
I have all $500 on the Spurs + 5. I am expecting another Suns loss. I don't know how the Suns will win a close one against this team. They haven't been able to do it as far as I can remember.


Dude you suck!

The SUNS in 6

EYES ON THE PRIZE!


http://attachments.wetpaintserv.us/QH4oBlj%24trSvLBldI2BoRw%3D%3D17064

Obstructed_View
05-08-2007, 02:56 PM
I have all $500 on the Spurs + 5. I am expecting another Suns loss. I don't know how the Suns will win a close one against this team. They haven't been able to do it as far as I can remember.
And what's great about making a bet like that is that if the Suns lose you at least win the bet.

dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 03:19 PM
Dude you suck!

The SUNS in 6

EYES ON THE PRIZE!


http://attachments.wetpaintserv.us/QH4oBlj%24trSvLBldI2BoRw%3D%3D17064

I believe Nash when he questions the teams desire to win. My heart is saying that the Suns win. My mind is telling me that they lose by 4.

dreamcastrocks
05-08-2007, 03:19 PM
And what's great about making a bet like that is that if the Suns lose you at least win the bet.

Trust me. I won't feel any better about myself because I won a vBookie bet.