Suns CANNOT play halfcourt or defense

[sunsbum]

we obviously woke up on the wrong side of the bed today:rolleyes .. you guys are getting owned at every possible angle. i guess its a series again eh?

[dbreiden83080]

we obviously woke up on the wrong side of the bed today:rolleyes .. you guys are getting owned at every possible angle. i guess its a series again eh?

We always knew it was a series we go home 1-1 and everyone sucked tonight. You guys are still in worse shape than us.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

we obviously woke up on the wrong side of the bed today:rolleyes .. you guys are getting owned at every possible angle. i guess its a series again eh?


nope, you idiots dropped the ball in game 1


take one in SA and then we'll talk

[lefty]

Suns fans , reminder : WE have homecourt advantage now

[sunsbum]

We always knew it was a series we go home 1-1 and everyone sucked tonight. You guys are still in worse shape than us.

everyone sucked or the suns nutted up and played some D?

you guys squeaked out game 1 and we dominate you at YOUR game tonight..

but this team is the same as 2005 right....no defense. no half court game.

[BillsCarnage]

everyone sucked or the suns nutted up and played some D?

you guys squeaked out game 1 and we dominate you at YOUR game tonight..

but this team is the same as 2005 right....no defense. no half court game.

That's what they keep saying...

[RonMexico]

Suns need to take Game 3

[Marcus Bryant]

I guess this is the 'we're good enough not to be swept' validation thread.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

Wow, all this after 1 game?

[Xylus]

Suns need to take Game 3
I'd be satisfied with winning Game 4.

[Marcus Bryant]

Wow, all this after 1 game?

With no rings and years of disappointment, it's not surprising.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'd hope that the Suns would at least see a Spurs team with some competitive spirit and an attention to detail on Saturday. They sure didn't see that tonight.

[sunsbum]

I guess this is the 'we're good enough not to be swept' validation thread.


Kurt thomas scares you doesnt he?

[RonMexico]

Yeah, the Suns don't play any D... the Spurs just don't play offense... that's the Spur Fan rationale

[L.I.T]

Look, most everyone figured this was going 6 or 7 games and wasn't going to be some frolicking cakewalk in the park.

Spurs won playing the Suns style, the Suns took a game playing the Spurs style. I just hope Pop doesn't go off the deep-end like last year...

[Marcus Bryant]

Kurt thomas scares you doesnt he?

Not really. A washed up role player gives you wood, no?

[DarrinS]

I guess the Spurs can't beat the Suns in Phoenix in 6 consecutive playoff games. Nice job of breaking what must have been a miserable losing streak.

[Suns>Spurs]

Kurt thomas owns Duncan :ihit

[sunsbum]

With no rings and years of disappointment, it's not surprising.


hey, not everyone can tank for the greatest centers of all time...we gotta earn our titles the legit way.

[Marcus Bryant]

hey, not everyone can tank for the greatest centers of all time...we gotta earn our titles the legit way.

You try to buy them and fail every time.

[DarrinS]

Kurt thomas owns Duncan :ihit


I lost count of Duncan's bank shots. Too bad none of the other Spurs were hitting shots.

[sunsbum]

Not really. A washed up role player gives you wood, no?

as much as your post count gets you goin. ridiculous.

that washed up role player just owned one of the greatest centers of all time.

[Suns>Spurs]

I lost count of Duncan's bank shots. Too bad none of the other Spurs were hitting shots.
101 - 81

[Marcus Bryant]

as much as your post count gets you goin. ridiculous.

that washed up role player just owned one of the greatest centers of all time.

What'd Duncan finish with, 34 points?

[bonesinaz]

Duncan had 29. KT really stopped him.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Kurt thomas owns Duncan :ihit


bwahahahahahahhahaa

are you that retarded??


duncan 12-20


way to go KT, way to go :tu

[sunsbum]

You try to buy them and fail every time.

sorry that lame excuse only works on the mavs

Drafted

Amare
Marion
Barbosa
Nash


owned.. :clap

[jbspurs]

everyone sucked or the suns nutted up and played some D?

you guys squeaked out game 1 and we dominate you at YOUR game tonight..

but this team is the same as 2005 right....no defense. no half court game.


YUP GOT THAT RIGHT "STILL NO DEFENSE"!.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

as much as your post count gets you goin. ridiculous.

that washed up role player just owned one of the greatest centers of all time.
Remind me, how many points did Tim have? This loss is all lack of bench production. Take of the homer goggles for a second brah.

[RonMexico]

Wow, all this after 1 game?

Haha - you guys can talk all the shit you want after Game 1 and then rip on us for a 20-point blowout?

One thing you never saw in 2005 WCF: either team winning by 20 points

But this is still the same Suns team, guys, so Spurs in 5!

[DarrinS]

What'd Duncan finish with, 34 points?


No, 29. But he was "owned" according to Sun fan.

[exstatic]

Kurt thomas scares you doesnt he?
Just that face, combined with those quasi-crossed eyes. How can he tell which ball to slap at or rebound?

[sunsbum]

bwahahahahahahhahaa

are you that retarded??


duncan 12-20


way to go KT, way to go :tu

did you guys even watch the game? KT allowed the rest of the suns to stay home on SA shooters instead of doubling duncan. lets just say we amare'd you...we let duncan have his and shut down the rest of your team. get a clue.

[Marcus Bryant]

sorry that lame excuse only works on the mavs

Drafted

Amare
Marion
Barbosa
Nash


owned.. :clap

The Suns drafted Nash from the Mavs? Goodnight junior.

[ace3g]

as much as your post count gets you goin. ridiculous.

that washed up role player just owned one of the greatest centers of all time.


so Kurt Thomas owned Elson tonight because Duncan is the Greatest Power Forward of all time

[DarrinS]

Haha - you guys can talk all the shit you want after Game 1 and then rip on us for a 20-point blowout?

One thing you never saw in 2005 WCF: either team winning by 20 points

But this is still the same Suns team, guys, so Spurs in 5!


The Suns played well, the Spurs did not. But I'm glad you guys got a boner over it. I don't think the Spurs will lay an egg like that again.

[Mr. Peabody]

The Suns drafted Nash from the Mavs? Goodnight junior.

:lol Please tell me you're joking. :lol

[Jdspur20]

Kurt thomas owns Duncan :ihit


12-20 29 points, right....keep telling yourself that, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[DarrinS]

The Suns drafted Nash from the Mavs? Goodnight junior.


Well, I think they did draft him originally.

[bonesinaz]

so Kurt Thomas owned Elson tonight because Duncan is the Greatest Power Forward of all time

:lmao

[exstatic]

It's 1-1. They don't keep a running total score for the series.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

Haha - you guys can talk all the shit you want after Game 1 and then rip on us for a 20-point blowout?

One thing you never saw in 2005 WCF: either team winning by 20 points

But this is still the same Suns team, guys, so Spurs in 5!
Please quote me on something talking shit about the Suns. I never started any threads or posted anything celebrating game 1. But hey its ok for sunsbum to cream his pants after this one I get it.

[Marcus Bryant]

Well, I think they did draft him originally.

Sure. I guess that is what confused him. Doesn't take much, apparently.

[sunsbum]

The Suns drafted Nash from the Mavs? Goodnight junior.


HAHAHAHAA youd think with all that big ole post count youd have a clue about anything outside of the spurs..obviously not..

yea we DRAFTED NASH, he played under KJ, KIDD.... im gunna give you the benefit of the doubt and realize you probably knew that but for the sake of your little argument tried to pull that carpet out.

[jbspurs]

Kurt thomas owns Duncan :ihit


:wtf
YOU ARE FUNNY!

[Suns>Spurs]

The Suns drafted Nash from the Mavs? Goodnight junior.

how do you draft from the Mavs? :donkey

[Marcus Bryant]

HAHAHAHAA youd think with all that big ole post count youd have a clue about anything outside of the spurs..obviously not..

yea we DRAFTED NASH, he played under KJ, KIDD.... im gunna give you the benefit of the doubt and realize you probably knew that but for the sake of your little argument tried to pull that carpet out.

How did he end up back in Phoenix? Next.

[Trainwreck2100]

did you guys even watch the game? KT allowed the rest of the suns to stay home on SA shooters instead of doubling duncan. lets just say we amare'd you...we let duncan have his and shut down the rest of your team. get a clue.


They single coveraged him the first game, that's how he got 33

[Budkin]

We stole your homecourt. Good luck getting it back. :lmao

[Marcus Bryant]

how do you draft from the Mavs? :donkey

Ask your bud.

[DarrinS]

Just that face, combined with those quasi-crossed eyes. How can he tell which ball to slap at or rebound?


Now that's just funny.

[sunsbum]

How did he end up back in Phoenix? Next.


quit padding your post count my man...you didnt even know phx drafted nash.

"next"

[Trainwreck2100]

quit padding your post count my man...you didnt even know phx drafted nash.

"next"


Every Spur fan knows Pho. drafted Nash because of his fight with AJ

[sunsbum]

They single coveraged him the first game, that's how he got 33


the difference is amare cant gaurd duncan and we had to collapse on him time and time again...therefore opening up the game for the rest of your boys.

[RonMexico]

How did he end up back in Phoenix? Next.

You're not as intelligent as you think you are.

I'm not saying we're all getting boners over this game.

And DarrinS, Raja Bell said that we can give Tim his 30 and still win... looks like that happened - no one has to "own" Duncan at all, as long as Barry/Parker/Finley don't go off.

P.S. Parker talked the most shit after Game 1 and his FG% dropped by half this game.

[sunsbum]

Every Spur fan knows Pho. drafted Nash because of his fight with AJ


obviously not, why dont you read the entire thread..look for you little friend mark bryants post.

[Marcus Bryant]

quit padding your post count my man...you didnt even know phx drafted nash.

"next"

I know Phoenix drafted Nash over a decade ago. That's not why he is on the team today. Are you retarded or drunk?

[Marcus Bryant]

You're not as intelligent as you think you are.



Actually, I am.

[SequSpur]

we obviously woke up on the wrong side of the bed today:rolleyes .. you guys are getting owned at every possible angle. i guess its a series again eh?

suck a dick.

[Trainwreck2100]

the difference is amare cant gaurd duncan and we had to collapse on him time and time again...therefore opening up the game for the rest of your boys.


:lol

Parker's points came off the dribble last game. Finley had more than a fair share of open looks `

[DarrinS]

You're not as intelligent as you think you are.

I'm not saying we're all getting boners over this game.

And DarrinS, Raja Bell said that we can give Tim his 30 and still win... looks like that happened - no one has to "own" Duncan at all, as long as Barry/Parker/Finley don't go off.

P.S. Parker talked the most shit after Game 1 and his FG% dropped by half this game.


I just hope SUns fans aren't banking on the Spurs shooting bricks for the rest of the series.

[Marcus Bryant]

So Nash is a member of the Suns today because he was drafted back in '95 or whenever, not because he was signed as a free agent a few years ago after spending 6 or 7 seasons with the Mavs, to whom he was traded.

[sunsbum]

I know Phoenix drafted Nash over a decade ago. That's not why he is on the team today. Are you retarded or drunk?


keep on tiptoeing through the tullips buuuuuddy.

[jbspurs]

did you guys even watch the game? KT allowed the rest of the suns to stay home on SA shooters instead of doubling duncan. lets just say we amare'd you...we let duncan have his and shut down the rest of your team. get a clue.


Thats some good ass shit you :smokin !

[RonMexico]

Actually, I am.

No, you're not - you tried to say the Suns "buy" stars and the Spurs are the only ones who have "homegrown talent"

Then you realized that Marion, Barbosa, Amare have all only played for one team, so then you try to act like the Nash signing trumps all.

Now you're probably going to start bitching that Barbosa was drafted with SA's pick...

If that were the case, then I could lay some claim to Luol Deng for the Suns...

Don't try to act like some fucking genius because Nash got traded to the Mavs... Danny Ainge was around back then and we all know his wonderful eye for talent.

[Marcus Bryant]

The Suns aren't jack without Nash. QED.

[jbspurs]

Just that face, combined with those quasi-crossed eyes. How can he tell which ball to slap at or rebound?


:blah :lol :blah :lol

[RonMexico]

I just hope SUns fans aren't banking on the Spurs shooting bricks for the rest of the series.

I'm banking on Tony Parker not shooting 63% on perimeter jumpers the whole series.

[sunsbum]

The Suns aren't jack without Nash. QED.

suns withouth nash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spurs w/o ducan.

easily, all day everyday.

[RonMexico]

The Suns aren't jack without Nash. QED.

Just loads of brilliance out of this one.

1 mil of bullshit and counting.

[DarrinS]

I'm banking on Tony Parker not shooting 63% on perimeter jumpers the whole series.


Either way, I'm sure he won't be tied with Bruce Bowen (13 pts) as the 2nd highest scoring player on the Spurs. That was just an awful display of shooting -- and most of the shots weren't missed because of anything great the Suns were doing on D.

[Marcus Bryant]

What's that, 'neck?

[dreamcastrocks]

we obviously woke up on the wrong side of the bed today:rolleyes .. you guys are getting owned at every possible angle. i guess its a series again eh?

Be quiet. You are making Suns fans look like trolls.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

nah, the suns played really good D, i give them credit for that

[sunsbum]

Be quiet. You are making Suns fans look like trolls.


oh well. it takes all types from all walks of life ;)

[RonMexico]

Either way, I'm sure he won't be tied with Bruce Bowen (13 pts) as the 2nd highest scoring player on the Spurs. That was just an awful display of shooting -- and most of the shots weren't missed because of anything great the Suns were doing on D.

I'm in China, so I can't watch the game... I just know that 32 out of Parker without him getting in the lane all that much is not gonna happen every game.

[Louie Vega]

101 - 81


NBA Titles :

Spurs 3

Suns 0

[Matrix Marion]

NBA Titles :

Spurs 3

Suns 0

after this year :toast

Spurs 3

Suns 1

[Louie Vega]

after this year :toast

Spurs 3

Suns 1


Daydreaming or wishful thinking?

[spursfan09]

Kurt thomas scares you doesnt he?

:lol

especially not while the next two games are in SA.

[Gaddabout]

I'm baffled why my fellow Suns fans are here talking smack. Hello? We had the home seed. We were supposed to be favored in this series. We're going to San Antonio cocky that we won one of the two games at home?

I thought the Suns showed they can match up with the Spurs OK tonight. I'll be curious to see how this holds up for an entire series, but KT does at the very least make Duncan work for his shots and allows everyone else to play much better defense.

Hey, you got your series now, Spurs. Let's have some fun.

[Matrix Marion]

I'm baffled why my fellow Suns fans are here talking smack. Hello? We had the home seed. We were supposed to be favored in this series. We're going to San Antonio cocky that we won one of the two games at home?

I thought the Suns showed they can match up with the Spurs OK tonight. I'll be curious to see how this holds up for an entire series, but KT does at the very least make Duncan work for his shots and allows everyone else to play much better defense.

Hey, you got your series now, Spurs. Let's have some fun.

because spurs fans keep saying there going to win in 4 or 5 this is a reality check for them.

[sunsbum]

because spurs fans keep saying there going to win in 4 or 5 this is a reality check for them.


bingo.

[Gaddabout]

because spurs fans keep saying there going to win in 4 or 5 this is a reality check for them.

A reality check would be the Suns players winning a game in San Antonio next week. The reality check for us is we lost HCA, which we spent most of the second half protecting so we wouldn't have to win a game in San Antonio.

The Suns haven't proven jack###. Period. We got no room to talk.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

A reality check would be the Suns players winning a game in San Antonio next week. The reality check for us is we lost HCA, which we spent most of the second half protecting so we wouldn't have to win a game in San Antonio.

The Suns haven't proven jack###. Period. We got no room to talk.
Bingo. :tu

[sunsbum]

A reality check would be the Suns players winning a game in San Antonio next week. The reality check for us is we lost HCA, which we spent most of the second half protecting so we wouldn't have to win a game in San Antonio.

The Suns haven't proven jack###. Period. We got no room to talk.


a 20 pt win is a 20 pt win no matter how spurs fans want to dismiss it.

"all the pressure was on us" and we responded.

[RonMexico]

Yeah, it was nice to see the Suns step up and take a game convincingly with their backs against the wall.

Hopefully, they don't follow the Spurs' lead and come out flat in Game 3.

[Xylus]

I think Kurt Thomas had more of an impact on this game than most of you think.

1. His defense allowed Amare to stay out of foul trouble.

2. They didn't have to double-team Duncan while Thomas was guarding him, which allowed them to cover the shooters at all times. This forced the Spurs to play a one-man game, similar to what the Spurs did to the Suns in '05.

3. He kept Duncan from receiving the ball really close to the hoop. Everytime Amare guards Duncan, Timmy always seems to get the ball an arm's length away from the hoop, which leads to an easy bucket. Thus, it doesn't matter how well Amare defends, Duncan always has a close shot. Thomas denied him that luxury and forced him to shoot tough shots. Since Duncan is such an amazing player, he made most of them.

The point of playing Kurt is to force Duncan to work for his points, keep Amare out of foul trouble, and allow the Suns to single-guard Duncan. This is why we got Kurt Thomas in the first place...so it's good to see that D'Antoni is finally starting to wake the fuck up.

[RonMexico]

Yeah - Duncan can score in the 30s all he wants if the next closest guy is Bowen/Parker at 13. Parker goes for 32 in Game 1... scores 20 points less in Game 2 and Spurs lose by 20.... hmmm...

As long as Suns can avoid the TD 30 pt, 15 reb, 12 ast, 8 blk performance... then they'll be OK. Hopefully Kurt Thomas making him work hard for 12-20 FG aids the rest of the Suns' attack. Thomas didn't even have a rebound until the 2nd half, but the Suns were +21 with him on the floor, so his impact was more than what showed up in the stat sheet.

[Strike]

Kurt thomas owns Duncan :ihit

Yep. Held him to a mere 29 points!

[Strike]

The Suns haven't proven jack###. Period. We got no room to talk.

Wow. Even after a 20 point beatdown by your team you're at least being realistic.

Nice to see at least some Suns fans can be intelligent.

Yeah the Spurs got worked. Happens to every team once in awhile. But I expect the Spurs to bounce back. Even with the blowout it's shaping up to be a good series.

[NBA Junkie]

after this year :toast

Spurs 4

Suns 0

Fixed it for you.

[RonMexico]

Yep. Held him to a mere 29 points!

Again - Duncan's points don't matter... it's how hard he has to work for them and Thomas makes him work harder than Amare (who pretty much lets TD post up on the block at will).

Still to say KT "owns" Duncan is absurd.

[ambchang]

we obviously woke up on the wrong side of the bed today:rolleyes .. you guys are getting owned at every possible angle. i guess its a series again eh?
So the Suns lost homecourt, and the Spurs were getting owned at every possible angle? I am not too worried, the Spurs are allowed 3 crappy games in a series, wait, every team is entitled to 3 crappy games in a series, they just have to win the other 4.

[George Gervin's Afro]

everyone sucked or the suns nutted up and played some D?

you guys squeaked out game 1 and we dominate you at YOUR game tonight..

but this team is the same as 2005 right....no defense. no half court game.


A new poster coming to the board who talks trash ONLY after a win... geez act like your team won something before..oh wait they haven't. :oops

[DarrinS]

I'm baffled why my fellow Suns fans are here talking smack. Hello? We had the home seed. We were supposed to be favored in this series. We're going to San Antonio cocky that we won one of the two games at home?

I thought the Suns showed they can match up with the Spurs OK tonight. I'll be curious to see how this holds up for an entire series, but KT does at the very least make Duncan work for his shots and allows everyone else to play much better defense.

Hey, you got your series now, Spurs. Let's have some fun.


Starting Thomas was a smart move. He plays serviceable defense and he doesn't hurt you on offense. Marion and Raja played really good defense, pretty much shutting down anything Parker and Ginobili were trying to do. They forced everything to happen through Tim and that just wasn't enough.

[101A]

a 20 pt win is a 20 pt win

Yeah, Detroit had TWO in a row in '05 against the Spurs. How'd that work out for them?

[ambchang]

a 20 pt win is a 20 pt win no matter how spurs fans want to dismiss it.

"all the pressure was on us" and we responded.
What did you do?

[FromWayDowntown]

There's a lot to dissect from Game 2. The Suns move to Thomas made them more effective in the defensive halfcourt. The Spurs lack of enthusiasm made it all the easier for the Suns to look effective in that setting. I give the Suns credit, but I also think the Spurs have only themselves to blame.

I don't think that we can expect the norm in this series to be a complete shutdown of the Spurs offense while the Suns shoot 63% over 3 quarters of the game. That shooting percentage in quarters 2-4, as much as anything, gives me solace that Game 2 was more of an anomaly than an omen. As great as the Suns are offensively, they're not going to shoot that well over long stretches of this series. If they do, they'll win the series easily.

I also don't think it's realistic to think that the Spurs are going to turn it over the way they did in Game 2, either. In game 1, there were bunches of offensive fouls that accounted for Spurs turnovers. I can take those, since they tend to suggest aggressiveness. While some of the Spurs turnovers in Game 2 were offensive fouls, a bunch of them were passes to nobody (Parker) and things like that. Those are unforced errors. Again, if the Spurs are going to turn it over like that, they're going to lose; but I don't think they're going to turn it over like that.

I think the Spurs lack of aggression on the offensive end -- and more specifically, the willingness to dump the ball into Duncan and wait for things to happen -- hurt them as the game wore on last night. Hopefully, Popovich will recognize that.

[MadDog73]

So, Suns fans really expect the Spurs to fold after losing one game?

It's a 5 game series now, with the Spus holding Homecourt. We know we can win in PHX... the question remains, will the Suns be able to win the necessary game in San Antonio?

Spurs in 6.

[J21]

as much as your post count gets you goin. ridiculous.

that washed up role player just owned one of the greatest centers of all time.
i guess scoring 29 points means getting owned :donkey

[GrandeDavid]

With no rings and years of disappointment, it's not surprising.

Short, sweet, too the point. Brilliant. Every Suns troll needs to ponder the meaning of this statement. :lol

[GrandeDavid]

Not really. A washed up role player gives you wood, no?

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Suns fans, I'm giving you fair warning now. Don't irritate the sleeping giant. Marcus has been bringin it for years. Don't bite off more than you can chew. :lol

[sunsbum]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Suns fans, I'm giving you fair warning now. Don't irritate the sleeping giant. Marcus has been bringin it for years. Don't bite off more than you can chew. :lol


read the entire thread, we disposed of that guy pretty easily after he said the suns didnt draft nash.

[sunsbum]

Yeah - Duncan can score in the 30s all he wants if the next closest guy is Bowen/Parker at 13. Parker goes for 32 in Game 1... scores 20 points less in Game 2 and Spurs lose by 20.... hmmm...

but the Suns were +21 with him on the floor, so his impact was more than what showed up in the stat sheet.


it amazing how the spurs fans just dont get it...dont take everything for face value.. maybe i should have said KT owned your whole team.

[GrandeDavid]

as much as your post count gets you goin. ridiculous.

that washed up role player just owned one of the greatest centers of all time.

29 points, 12 rebounds while his teammates sleepwalked. And that's 31 points and 13.5 rebounds for the series...and countless blocks.

Kurt Thomas had 12 points, 4 rebounds and 0 blocks.

The team had an off night. Were the Spurs really supposed to keep bending Phoenix over in their house? Oh, the trend will start over again early next week, but the Law of Probability presumes that Phoenix will win one game from time to time against San Antonio in Phoenix.

Who owned whom? Saturday will be a different story.

Can people be banned for being stupid instead of insulting?

[cherylsteele]

Kurt thomas scares you doesnt he?
Yeah...he shut down Duncan. :rolleyes

[Xylus]

Like I said, already. Kurt Thomas doesn't have to shut Tim Duncan down. All he has to do is provide good single-coverage defense, so that the rest of our team can defend the shooters. Duncan is great at passing out--this way, Duncan can beat us but everyone else is locked down.

It'll be interesting to see how the Spurs respond on Saturday.

[GrandeDavid]

I'm in China, so I can't watch the game... I just know that 32 out of Parker without him getting in the lane all that much is not gonna happen every game.

Have you been to any local professional games in China? Just curious, no smack intended! :lol

Also, do you think that basketball is really a blossoming sport in China among the masses as the NBA likes to claim?

[sunsbum]

29 points, 12 rebounds while his teammates sleepwalked. And that's 31 points and 13.5 rebounds for the series...and countless blocks.

Kurt Thomas had 12 points, 4 rebounds and 0 blocks.

The team had an off night. Were the Spurs really supposed to keep bending Phoenix over in their house? Oh, the trend will start over again early next week, but the Law of Probability presumes that Phoenix will win one game from time to time against San Antonio in Phoenix.

Who owned whom? Saturday will be a different story.

Can people be banned for being stupid instead of insulting?

my my you have a thick skull. let me put it this way.....remember what you did in 2005 to amare? let him get his and shut the rest of the boys down...thats exactly what we did to you last night and KT is the reason we were able to do that.

our defense was outstanding wether you want to give us credit or not. pop did and quite frankly thats enough for me.
:donkey

[Dirk Nowitzki]

after this year :toast

Spurs 3

Suns 1


:clap :clap I would love to see my boy Nash earn a title now that my team is out!! Go Suns Go!!!!!

[GrandeDavid]

There's a lot to dissect from Game 2. The Suns move to Thomas made them more effective in the defensive halfcourt. The Spurs lack of enthusiasm made it all the easier for the Suns to look effective in that setting. I give the Suns credit, but I also think the Spurs have only themselves to blame.

I don't think that we can expect the norm in this series to be a complete shutdown of the Spurs offense while the Suns shoot 63% over 3 quarters of the game. That shooting percentage in quarters 2-4, as much as anything, gives me solace that Game 2 was more of an anomaly than an omen. As great as the Suns are offensively, they're not going to shoot that well over long stretches of this series. If they do, they'll win the series easily.

I also don't think it's realistic to think that the Spurs are going to turn it over the way they did in Game 2, either. In game 1, there were bunches of offensive fouls that accounted for Spurs turnovers. I can take those, since they tend to suggest aggressiveness. While some of the Spurs turnovers in Game 2 were offensive fouls, a bunch of them were passes to nobody (Parker) and things like that. Those are unforced errors. Again, if the Spurs are going to turn it over like that, they're going to lose; but I don't think they're going to turn it over like that.

I think the Spurs lack of aggression on the offensive end -- and more specifically, the willingness to dump the ball into Duncan and wait for things to happen -- hurt them as the game wore on last night. Hopefully, Popovich will recognize that.

Props to you. Perfect analysis. :toast

[GrandeDavid]

:donkey
my my you have a thick skull. let me put it this way.....remember what you did in 2005 to amare? let him get his and shut the rest of the boys down...thats exactly what we did to you last night and KT is the reason we were able to do that.

our defense was outstanding wether you want to give us credit or not. pop did and quite frankly thats enough for me.
:donkey

Kid, I didn't watch the game as I'm overseas at the moment, but I know the Spurs all too well and I certainly know that one old, rugged role player will not do the job one on one against Duncan for an entire game, much less an entire series. So save your pointless "thick skull" smack.

I never EVER discredited Phoenix's play. NOT ONCE!!! On the contrary, I think Phoenix played an outstanding game. On the coin, I know the Spurs as well as anybody, and I know that they played a miserable game, collectively. The moons were aligned, whatever, and Manu and Tony were flat. They shot 56% from the foul line. They passed up shots they normally take.

I give Phoenix all the credit in the world for that!

But I also know that San Antonio is masterful at adjustments and will be back with force on Saturday.

:donkey yourself.

[florige]

Kurt thomas scares you doesnt he?


Yeah just like he scared us when he played for the Knicks in 99. Puulease Subs fans... At least Dallas fans sometimes had a valid argu :lol ment.

[sunsbum]

:donkey

Kid, I didn't watch the game as I'm overseas at the moment, but I know the Spurs all too well and I certainly know that one old, rugged role player will not do the job one on one against Duncan for an entire game, much less an entire series. So save your pointless "thick skull" smack.

I never EVER discredited Phoenix's play. NOT ONCE!!! On the contrary, I think Phoenix played an outstanding game. On the coin, I know the Spurs as well as anybody, and I know that they played a miserable game, collectively. The moons were aligned, whatever, and Manu and Tony were flat. They shot 56% from the foul line. They passed up shots they normally take.

I give Phoenix all the credit in the world for that!

But I also know that San Antonio is masterful at adjustments and will be back with force on Saturday.

:donkey yourself.


you havent even seen the game?
:donkey :donkey

[dbreiden83080]

everyone sucked or the suns nutted up and played some D?

you guys squeaked out game 1 and we dominate you at YOUR game tonight..

but this team is the same as 2005 right....no defense. no half court game.

You dominated a game that you had to have, you go down 0-2 heading to SA and your season is OVER. If the Spurs lost a close game 1 there is no chance in hell they get blownout in game 2. Suns made some adjustments that worked. You know how many times that has happened to the Spurs and they win the series in the end. Spurs are going home tied at 1 and Manu has yet to get going. You really think you are going hold him down for both games in SA.

[kps0001]

:donkey



On the contrary, I think Phoenix played an outstanding game. On the coin, I know the Spurs as well as anybody, and I know that they played a miserable game, collectively. The moons were aligned, whatever, and Manu and Tony were flat. They shot 56% from the foul line. They passed up shots they normally take.

I give Phoenix all the credit in the world for that!

But I also know that San Antonio is masterful at adjustments and will be back with force on Saturday.

:donkey yourself.

That is kind of a contradiction there. You say you give Phoenix all the credit but then you state that the moons were aligned and Manu and Tony were flat.

I think it was a direct result of the defense and intensity we brought that took them out of their game and having nothing do with the moons being aligned.

Was Phoenix not as masterful last night at making adjustments? If you are gonna give credit don't give em 50%.

[dbreiden83080]

That is kind of a contradiction there. You say you give Phoenix all the credit but then you state that the moons were aligned and Manu and Tony were flat.

I think it was a direct result of the defense and intensity we brought that took them out of their game and having nothing do with the moons being aligned.

Was Phoenix not as masterful last night at making adjustments? If you are gonna give credit don't give em 50%.

Suns played well and the Spurs in the 2nd half looked like they were laying down. It was a 7pt game at the half and Suns came out great in the 3rd and the Spurs bascially were satisfied to go home 1-1. The next 2 games i expect to both be close great games.

[DarrinS]

That is kind of a contradiction there. You say you give Phoenix all the credit but then you state that the moons were aligned and Manu and Tony were flat.

I think it was a direct result of the defense and intensity we brought that took them out of their game and having nothing do with the moons being aligned.

Was Phoenix not as masterful last night at making adjustments? If you are gonna give credit don't give em 50%.


They deserve 100% credit for keeping all Spurs (not named Tim) out of the paint and forcing them to be jump shooters. Beyond that, the missed jump shots were still makeable, they just didn't go in. How's that?

[kps0001]

Suns played well and the Spurs in the 2nd half looked like they were laying down. It was a 7pt game at the half and Suns came out great in the 3rd and the Spurs bascially were satisfied to go home 1-1. The next 2 games i expect to both be close great games.

We played bad offensively in the first half. I think we shot like 26%. We played our style of game but the shots weren't fallng. Luckily that changed. If you believe the Spurs were satisfied to go home 1-1 I would be shocked. The Spurs are one of the best at jumping on a team when they are down and going for the jugular. I was really shocked at the difference on the scoreboard and feel every game through game 7 will be close great games.

...and speaking of San Antonio being so great at adjustments how did that work out for you when Pop decided he was gonna try to match us in small ball after Timmy got his 4th foul and had to sit for a while? We actually got to see the way Diaw should play every game and the Spurs had no answer.

[kps0001]

They deserve 100% credit for keeping all Spurs (not named Tim) out of the paint and forcing them to be jump shooters. Beyond that, the missed jump shots were still makeable, they just didn't go in. How's that?

I don't know really; a blow to the confidence? a little tired from the run n gun style? Its hard to say but I think it has more to do with what happened in the game that them just being off or the moon alignement. I do think that fall by Parker rattled his noggin again pretty good and hurt his arm a little bit and affected his play. Could be wrong though but he is French so I don't know if he is the toughest player out there.
:p:

[Doug Collins]

A new poster coming to the board who talks trash ONLY after a win... geez act like your team won something before..oh wait they haven't. :oops

Capt. Mike?

[101A]

Suns fans, a bit of advice:

STFU!

Your beloved team won a game convincingly, we get that. Please act like you've been here before! These are the playoffs. These are the Spurs in the playoffs. Trust me, the people on this board have seen the Spurs in the playoffs FAR more than you have in the past 10 years! Your experience has been 5 or 6 games, and then, well, out.

The Spurs periodically lay an egg in a series; they often do that against teams they feel, rightly or wrongly, "comfortable" with. Twice this lackadaisical attitude has cost them series against teams: last year against the Mavs in game 2 the Spurs messed up bad, and in '04 against the Lakers the Spurs gave away two in LA; feeling confident they could hold homecourt. ALL other times, the Spurs have gotten whipped, then come back and regained dominance. I don't know what caused the Spurs to take Phoenix lightly (could be the 5 game playoff winning streak they were riding IN Phoenix; it could be they believed their press, who knows), but the net result is; until it happens again, and Phoenix shows some level of consistency against the Spurs, you, Suns fan, are not going to get satisfaction from us Spurs fans. The Spurs have owned the Suns for too long, and we have all lived through Spurs games like this against lesser opponents in the playoffs for years.

We just went through it in rd 1 with Nuggets fan; who thought they had the Spurs RIGHT where they wanted them; we've endured it ALL year from Mavericks fan, last year it was Sacramento, before that Denver and Seattle, in '03 it was you, Suns fan, who had a team steal one in San Antonio!

It was a game, a game that Phoenix played great in, and beat the Spurs by 20 points. BUT, the Spurs now hold a home-court advantage in this series against a team that hasn't won here in a long time, and whom the Spurs have dominated in the W/L for years now. I, and many Spurs fans, are reasonably confident that this series is going to turn out to our liking, frankly, despite the game last night. So talk smack if you must, but understand, we strongly feel history is on our side. Duncan is, after all, 4-0 in series against the Suns.

[dreamcastrocks]

We played bad offensively in the first half. I think we shot like 26%.

Everyone kept saying, but it wasn't true. If you remember, the Suns were up 10, early in the game. There was only a 6 minute stretch in the 1st quarter when the Suns were shooting terribly. They did shoot a ton of shots, but the 1st half of the 1st quarter was great. They had about 17 points.

Then ended the 1st Quarter 6 for 24 or so but it wasn't that bad for the entire quarter.

[Doug Collins]

Suns had to win the game and played like it. Spurs played like they typically do when they decide to go into "vagina mode" and play like absolute garbage. I give the Suns credit for hitting their shots and outplaying the Spurs. But if PHX loses that game the series is over, so I don't find it shocking that they won by 20.

[dreamcastrocks]

Suns fans, a bit of advice:

STFU!

Your beloved team won a game convincingly, we get that. Please act like you've been here before! These are the playoffs. These are the Spurs in the playoffs. Trust me, the people on this board have seen the Spurs in the playoffs FAR more than you have in the past 10 years! Your experience has been 5 or 6 games, and then, well, out.

The Spurs periodically lay an egg in a series; they often do that against teams they feel, rightly or wrongly, "comfortable" with. Twice this lackadaisical attitude has cost them series against teams: last year against the Mavs in game 2 the Spurs messed up bad, and in '04 against the Lakers the Spurs gave away two in LA; feeling confident they could hold homecourt. ALL other times, the Spurs have gotten whipped, then come back and regained dominance. I don't know what caused the Spurs to take Phoenix lightly (could be the 5 game playoff winning streak they were riding IN Phoenix; it could be they believed their press, who knows), but the net result is; until it happens again, and Phoenix shows some level of consistency against the Spurs, you, Suns fan, are not going to get satisfaction from us Spurs fans. The Spurs have owned the Suns for too long, and we have all lived through Spurs games like this against lesser opponents in the playoffs for years.

We just went through it in rd 1 with Nuggets fan; who thought they had the Spurs RIGHT where they wanted them; we've endured it ALL year from Mavericks fan, last year it was Sacramento, before that Denver and Seattle, in '03 it was you, Suns fan, who had a team steal one in San Antonio!

It was a game, a game that Phoenix played great in, and beat the Spurs by 20 points. BUT, the Spurs now hold a home-court advantage in this series against a team that hasn't won here in a long time, and whom the Spurs have dominated in the W/L for years now. I, and many Spurs fans, are reasonably confident that this series is going to turn out to our liking, frankly, despite the game last night. So talk smack if you must, but understand, we strongly feel history is on our side. Duncan is, after all, 4-0 in series against the Suns.

The Suns won their elimination game in 05 against the Spurs to kept from getting swept. Call it what you want, but the last playoff series that we faced each other in, isn't a long time.

You're right, the Spurs now have homecourt advantage. If you switch game 1 and game 2, where blew you out in game 1, and you guys win game 2, the entire mood would be different, but shouldnt. We have to win one in your building to extend the series.

The Suns will have a better chance of winning game 4, than game 3. Popovich should be able to look at tape, and figure out what is wrong with his team.

[kps0001]

Everyone kept saying, but it wasn't true. If you remember, the Suns were up 10, early in the game. There was only a 6 minute stretch in the 1st quarter when the Suns were shooting terribly. They did shoot a ton of shots, but the 1st half of the 1st quarter was great. They had about 17 points.

Then ended the 1st Quarter 6 for 24 or so but it wasn't that bad for the entire quarter.

I just was reiterating what Nash said after the game. :shrug If was only 6 minutes I certainly was pretty nervous for those 6 minutes.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I thought the Suns played pretty darn good D. I was impressed with their effort. Thomas on the floor does change the look of their team on the defensive end of the court.

That being said, I thought the Suns played full bore while the Spurs looked a little complacent. I'm surprised that D'Antoni showed his lineup hand before the game and Pop & Co. weren't more prepared for it. But I felt like the Spurs mailed this one in in the second half.

I could see the Suns splitting in San Antonio, but I still think the Spurs win the series.

[Xylus]

The Suns won't blow out the Spurs like this again in this series.

[DePastino]

You know, all the crap by Suns fans in here would be fine - except that we're still technically "down" in this series.

Why don't you guys save all this bravado for when/if the Suns take one of the next two?

The Spurs haven't been "solved" yet.

[MadDog73]

Finally, some realistic Suns fans.

Now, if the Suns pull this off, I will be eating crow, but until then...