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Nbadan
05-09-2007, 03:43 AM
White House Blames Gov. Sebelius For National Guard Shortages

Kansas is currently missing approximately 60 percent of its National Guard equipment because of the war in Iraq, hampering its ability to respond to the recent tornadoes.


In a “spat reminiscent of White House finger-pointing at Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco after the federal government’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina,” White House Press Secretary Tony Snow this morning blamed Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D) for the shortages, saying he was “not aware of any prior complaints” by the governor about the equipment:

If you don’t request it, you’re not going to get it. … As far as we know, the only thing the governor has requested are FM radios. There have been no requests to the National Guard for heavy equipment. … We are eager to provide what Kansas needs. But again there are also - you also have to go through the process of making the request first.

Snow’s statements are incorrect. On repeated occasions, Sebelius made clear to the White House that Kansas was dangerously low on National Guard equipment:

– Dec. 30, 2005: Sebelius writes to Rumsfeld requesting new equipment. “The Guard was critical to responding to recent blizzards and floods in Kansas, yet its ability to respond to similar situations is being diminished by a lack of equipment,” wrote Sebelius. Included with her letter was a list of equipment Kansas had lost to the Iraq war. (Kansas City Star, 1/21/06; Topeka Capital-Journal, 6/29/06)

– Jan. 23, 2006: Sebelius personally urges Bush to increase National Guard funding. In an one-hour motorcade ride in Kansas with Bush, Sebelius expressed concern about “a reduction of National Guard troop strength in its next budget.” Bush assured her he was “dealing” with the shortages. (Topeka Capital-Journal, 1/24/06; Kansas City Star, 3/11/06)

– June 28, 2006: Sebelius sends Army Secretary list of equipment lost in war. In a meeting with Army Secretary Francis J. Harvey, Sebelius told Harvey that the state had lost about $140 million in National Guard equipment to the Iraq war. Her office then sent him a list of the lost equipment. (Topeka Capital-Journal, 6/29/06)

– Sept. 2006: Sebelius lobbies for replacement of National Guard equipment sent to Iraq. “Kansas’ congressional delegation, Sebelius and governors from around the country have been lobbying the Pentagon for increased funding to replace National Guard equipment that has been left in Iraq or damaged beyond repair after repeated use in war.” (AP, 9/5/06)

– Feb. 27, 2007: Sebelius pushes White House and Congress for more funding. “Now the Guard needs Washington’s help,” Sebelius said in press conference on Capitol Hill. “The President and Congress need to step up to the plate and give our Guard members the support they deserve.” (Press Release, 2/27/07)

At today’s White House press briefing, a reporter confronted Snow about Sebelius’s past requests. Snow simply replied, “And what happened was, she actually did get — there was not a formal request. But they’d had conversations.” He also admitted that Sebelius did request more than FM Radios.

Linky (http://www.mahablog.com/2007/05/08/america-the-unready)

Sadly, hurricane season is on its way, and just like with Katrina/Rita incompetance, shortages - we face these same damn problem YET again.

boutons_
05-09-2007, 09:40 AM
There's not enough oil in Kansas for the Repugs to bother about.

The Repugs and oilcos look at hurricanes as revenue opportunities.

RandomGuy
05-09-2007, 09:42 AM
Regarding the OP:

Remember, the blame will always fall on the local officials before the President will take repsonsibility for anything...

:spin :spin :spin

Tony Snow gives me the willies.

clambake
05-09-2007, 10:46 AM
Tony Snow and Ann Coulter are the same person.

xrayzebra
05-09-2007, 12:08 PM
You mean where they had 10,000 killed according to Barack Obama.
And the Gov was ask what help she needed and reply they had
all that the needed. Sounds like N.O. all over again to me.
Dimm-o-craps never see the tragedy just an opportunity to
trash Bush.

Oh, don't forget what those on the scene said: They had more
than enough equipment and help and if they had more it would
just get in the way.

Clambake, boutons, RandomGuy and NBAdan are all the same
person.

Yonivore
05-09-2007, 01:09 PM
The Governor has already backed off her complaints after being informed by HER State's Adjutant General that only 10% of the AVAILABLE resources were deployed to the tornado site.

"Ahem...'scuse me, Governor, but you might want to shut the fuck up, we have plenty of troops and supplies to deal with a disaster of this magnitude."

It is ridiculous to pretend that 100% of a State's National Guard would be needed to respond to a disaster in a town of less than 2,000 -- even if it is 95% destroyed.

Just more Bush Hatred Syndrome...

clambake
05-09-2007, 04:31 PM
If we keep talking like this, we're only going to "embolden" the weather.

johnsmith
05-09-2007, 04:42 PM
If we keep talking like this, we're only going to "embolden" the weather.


:lol :lol

Aggie Hoopsfan
05-09-2007, 05:46 PM
White House Blames Gov. Sebelius For National Guard Shortages

Kansas is currently missing approximately 60 percent of its National Guard equipment because of the war in Iraq, hampering its ability to respond to the recent tornadoes.



Linky (http://www.mahablog.com/2007/05/08/america-the-unready)

Sadly, hurricane season is on its way, and just like with Katrina/Rita incompetance, shortages - we face these same damn problem YET again.


:lmao I can't believe it took Dan this long to jump on the bandwagon for this.

A state can't deal with a town of 1500 destroyed? WTF?

Besides the fact that they had more than enough resources to deal with it (just hadn't been asked to allocate them), the sad fact is this lady is one of the up and comers in the Democraptic ranks and saw this as an opportunity to springboard her governorship of Kansas into some national clout and appeal within her own party.

Typical political whore, and the typical political bitch on this forum fell right in line. :lol

xrayzebra
05-11-2007, 08:44 AM
Oh, dan, yes, we did learn something from
Katrina. The dimm-o-craps lie through their
teeth. But guess we already knew that.

RandomGuy
05-11-2007, 10:11 AM
The Governor has already backed off her complaints after being informed by HER State's Adjutant General that only 10% of the AVAILABLE resources were deployed to the tornado site.

"Ahem...'scuse me, Governor, but you might want to shut the fuck up, we have plenty of troops and supplies to deal with a disaster of this magnitude."

It is ridiculous to pretend that 100% of a State's National Guard would be needed to respond to a disaster in a town of less than 2,000 -- even if it is 95% destroyed.

Just more Bush Hatred Syndrome...

Fair enough.

If the national guard's ability to respond to something like this really was eroded by the Iraq disaster, would the WH admit it? Would you?

xrayzebra
05-11-2007, 04:53 PM
Fair enough.

If the national guard's ability to respond to something like this really was eroded by the Iraq disaster, would the WH admit it? Would you?

Would you admit that it hasn't? Since they have
responded to all that have occurred since our war on
terror?

Nbadan
05-11-2007, 05:08 PM
The whole point is that the National Reserve isn't supposed to be used as a full-time active force, except for special cases and then we should honor service commitments to them, but in order to have butts on the ground in the Iraq cluster-fuck, the wing-nut politicians have extended active tour duties and quickened rotation times. All so the politicians can say that we don't need a draft.

Aggie Hoopsfan
05-12-2007, 09:23 AM
The whole point is that the National Reserve isn't supposed to be used as a full-time active force, except for special cases and then we should honor service commitments to them, but in order to have butts on the ground in the Iraq cluster-fuck, the wing-nut politicians have extended active tour duties and quickened rotation times. All so the politicians can say that we don't need a draft.

That's not the point at all. The whole point is that some wannabe democratic power broker governor tried to parlay this into some sort of political statement, and got owned by her own staff.

xrayzebra
05-13-2007, 09:29 AM
The whole point is that the National Reserve isn't supposed to be used as a full-time active force, except for special cases and then we should honor service commitments to them, but in order to have butts on the ground in the Iraq cluster-fuck, the wing-nut politicians have extended active tour duties and quickened rotation times. All so the politicians can say that we don't need a draft.

The whole point is, you are wrong! It
was not only designed and created for
just that purpose. WWI and WWII and
several other conflicts they have been
called up and served full-time.