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timvp
05-10-2007, 12:33 PM
NEW YORK, May 10, 2007 - Phoenix guard and two-time defending NBA Most Valuable Player Steve Nash and Suns center Amaré Stoudemire are the first teammates since the L.A. Lakers' Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal in 2003-04 to be named to the First Team, as the NBA announced the 2006-07 All-NBA Teams today.

Joining Nash at guard on the First Team is Bryant, the NBA's leading scorer
during the regular season. San Antonio's Tim Duncan and Dallas' Dirk
Nowitzki join Stoudemire in the frontcourt.

A unanimous selection, Nash, who earns First Team honors for the third
straight season, led the NBA in assists during the regular season with a
career-high 11.6 per game. He became the first NBA player to average at
least 18 points (18.6) and 11 assists since Magic Johnson in 1990-91. Nash
recorded 15 or more assists 16 times during the regular season.

Stoudemire averaged 20.4 points and a career-high 9.6 rebounds for the
Pacific Division champion Suns. He ranked second among NBA centers in
scoring behind only Houston's Yao Ming and was one of only three NBA
players (Utah's Carlos Boozer, the L.A. Clippers Elton Brand) ranked in the
top 20 in scoring, rebounding and field goal percentage (.575).

Nowitzki, who also makes his third straight First Team appearance, led the
Mavericks to an NBA-best 67-15 regular-season record. He averaged 24.6
points, 8.9 rebounds, a career-high 3.4 assists, and set a new personal
best for three-point percentage (.416). He finished the regular season as
the only player in the NBA to shoot 50 percent from the field (.502), 40
percent from three-point range and 90 percent from the free throw line
(.904).

For the second straight season, Bryant led the NBA in scoring with 31.6
points per contest, while posting 5.7 rebounds and 5.4 assists per game to
earn his fifth All-NBA First Team selection. He became just the second
player in NBA history to score 50 or more points in four straight games
when he tallied 65 vs. Portland on March 16, 50 vs. Minnesota on March 18,
60 at Memphis on March 22, and 50 at New Orleans/Oklahoma City on March 23.

Duncan earns his ninth First Team selection, the most of any active player,
with averages of 20.0 points, 10.6 rebounds and 3.4 assists. His 1,599
points this season were the most since he scored 1,884 in 2002-03. He
scored in double figures 78 times during the regular season.

The All-NBA Second Team consists of Washington's Gilbert Arenas and
Houston's Tracy McGrady at guard; Cleveland's LeBron James and Toronto's
Chris Bosh, who makes his first career All-NBA team, at forward; and
Houston's Yao at center.

The All-NBA Third Team includes Miami's Dwyane Wade and Detroit's Chauncey
Billups at guard; Minnesota's Kevin Garnett, the NBA's leading rebounder
with 12.8 per game, and Denver's Carmelo Anthony, the NBA's second-leading
scorer (28.9 ppg), at forwards; and Orlando's Dwight Howard at center.

The 129-member voting panel of writers and broadcasters throughout the
United States and Canada consisted of national media members and members
from each of the league's 30 teams who regularly cover the NBA. The media
voted for All-NBA First, Second and Third Teams by position with points
awarded on a 5-3-1 basis.

Below are the results of the voting for the 2006-07 All-NBA Teams, with
First Team votes in parentheses:

2006-07 ALL-NBA FIRST TEAM

Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (125) 634
Forward Tim Duncan, San Antonio (94) 573
Center Amaré Stoudemire, Phoenix (36) 494
Guard Steve Nash, Phoenix (129) 645
Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (128) 643

2006-07 ALL-NBA SECOND TEAM

Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward LeBron James, Cleveland (64) 494
Forward Chris Bosh, Toronto (8) 234
Center Yao Ming, Houston (38) 333
Guard Gilbert Arenas, Washington 295
Guard Tracy McGrady, Houston (10) 278

2006-07 ALL-NBA THIRD TEAM

Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward Kevin Garnett, Minnesota (5) 225
Forward Carmelo Anthony, Denver (1) 142
Center Dwight Howard, Orlando (1) 108
Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (1) 241
Guard Chauncey Billups, Detroit 86

Other players receiving votes, with point totals (first team votes in
parentheses): Carlos Boozer, Utah, 127; Shaquille O'Neal, Miami, 70 (3);
Jason Kidd, New Jersey, 58; Marcus Camby, Denver, 42 (2); Shawn Marion,
Phoenix, 41; Allen Iverson, Denver, 39; Tony Parker, San Antonio, 39; Vince
Carter, New Jersey, 15; Deron Williams, Utah, 15; Josh Howard, Dallas, 11;
Elton Brand, L.A. Clippers, 8; Mehmet Okur, Utah, 7; Baron Davis, Golden
State, 6; Michael Redd, Milwaukee, 6; Ray Allen, Seattle, 5; Richard
Hamilton, Detroit, 4; Joe Johnson, Atlanta, 3; Ben Gordon, Chicago, 3;
Chris Paul, New Orleans/Oklahoma City, 3; Paul Pierce, Boston, 2; Ben
Wallace, Chicago, 2; Jason Terry, Dallas, 2; Eddy Curry, New York, 2; Luol
Deng, Chicago, 1; Chris Webber, Detroit, 1; Jermaine O'Neal, Indiana, 1;
Pau Gasol, Memphis, 1; Tyson Chandler, New Orleans/Oklahoma City, 1; Manu
Ginobili, San Antonio, 1.

Solid D
05-10-2007, 12:37 PM
An All-West 1st Team

nkdlunch
05-10-2007, 12:38 PM
I am shocked amare got 1st team.

I would not even put him in 2nd team.

mardigan
05-10-2007, 12:41 PM
I am shocked amare got 1st team.

I would not even put him in 2nd team.
I was thinking the same thing, cant believe Amare got so many votes

naico
05-10-2007, 12:43 PM
wow boozer seriously got fucked on that one..

mountainballer
05-10-2007, 12:46 PM
I am shocked amare got 1st team.

I would not even put him in 2nd team.

also wondering. Yao got more 1st team votes than Amare.
if Amare wasn't listed as center, no way he would be on 1st or 2nd team.
(Lebron got almost twice as much 1st team votes as Amare)

Testing
05-10-2007, 12:47 PM
Amare over Boozer, etc.? That's a joke.

Cry Havoc
05-10-2007, 12:47 PM
Yao got more first place votes than Amare.... who would leave Yao off the 2nd or 3rd team ballot to hurt his score that badly?

OldDirtMcGirt
05-10-2007, 12:48 PM
I am shocked amare got 1st team.

I would not even put him in 2nd team.

Who would you put on the second and first teams? Yao would've easily gotten first team if he wasn't injured so much, but I'm not sure what other center deserved it over Amare.

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 12:51 PM
Not impressed. With the exception of Dirk, those 4 guys are all flukes. Tim Duncan couldn't average 22 and 11 in the WNBA.

Hell, Lenny Wilkens > Tim Duncan

http://www.achievement.org/achievers/wil1/large/wil1-006.jpg

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 12:52 PM
Who would you put on the second and first teams? Yao would've easily gotten first team if he wasn't injured so much, but I'm not sure what other center deserved it over Amare.

How bout James Donaldson for starters?

Solid D
05-10-2007, 12:53 PM
:lmao

mardigan
05-10-2007, 12:53 PM
How bout James Donaldson for starters?
Nice

naico
05-10-2007, 12:55 PM
Not impressed. With the exception of Dirk, those 4 guys are all flukes. Tim Duncan couldn't average 22 and 11 in the WNBA.

Hell, Lenny Wilkens > Tim Duncan

http://www.achievement.org/achievers/wil1/large/wil1-006.jpg
while we're at it

Game 6 GSW-DAL: Biedriens > Nowitzki

da_suns_fan__
05-10-2007, 12:58 PM
Props to Amare...regardless of the hate in this thread.

Oh...and Nash too!!! :)

Solid D
05-10-2007, 01:03 PM
Kobe and Dirk accept their awards from their fishing boats.

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 01:05 PM
Kobe and Dirk accept their awards from their fishing boats.


Golden State winning was a fluke. Only reason they beat Dallas was because they hit some lucky shots and the refs screwed us.

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 01:06 PM
while we're at it

Game 6 GSW-DAL: Biedriens > Nowitzki


Pat Burke > Tim Duncan

Mark Eaton > David Robinson.

hater
05-10-2007, 01:09 PM
Golden State winning was a fluke. Only reason they beat Dallas was because they hit some lucky shots and the refs screwed us.

golden state won because mavs are pussies. clear as day.

utah is gonna sweep golden state :lmao how embarrassing to mavs

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 01:11 PM
golden state won because mavs are pussies. clear as day.

utah is gonna sweep golden state :lmao how embarrassing to mavs

Golden State did what San Antonio could not. And the Golden State victory was solely due to the referees. Also, Charlotte and Boston beat San Antonio this year and would've beaten them in a playoff series like they are supposed to, since they're both better teams than the Spurs. Therefore, Refs > Golden State > Dallas > Charlotte > Boston >San Antonio.

Tim Duncan is an overrated fluke.

nkdlunch
05-10-2007, 01:13 PM
Who would you put on the second and first teams? Yao would've easily gotten first team if he wasn't injured so much, but I'm not sure what other center deserved it over Amare.


I don't know if it HAD to be a true center. Plus Amare is not even a true center. these are the big men I'd put ahead of Amare:

Yao
Boozer
D Howard
Bosch
Camby
Shaq

SAGambler
05-10-2007, 01:17 PM
Amare over Boozer, etc.? That's a joke.




Is this the same bunch that gave Camby the DPOY?
:dizzy :dizzy :dizzy

naico
05-10-2007, 01:18 PM
Golden State did what San Antonio could not. And the Golden State victory was solely due to the referees. Also, Charlotte and Boston beat San Antonio this year and would've beaten them in a playoff series like they are supposed to, since they're both better teams than the Spurs. Therefore, Refs > Golden State > Dallas > Charlotte > Boston >San Antonio.

Tim Duncan is an overrated fluke.

Boy shouldn't you be lying in bed right now? seriously how old are you?

lefty
05-10-2007, 01:18 PM
mmm....if Nash is an unanimous selection, it could mean he is going to be voted MVP...

Solid D
05-10-2007, 01:19 PM
Golden State did what San Antonio could not. And the Golden State victory was solely due to the referees. Also, Charlotte and Boston beat San Antonio this year and would've beaten them in a playoff series like they are supposed to, since they're both better teams than the Spurs. Therefore, Refs > Golden State > Dallas > Charlotte > Boston >San Antonio.

Tim Duncan is an overrated fluke.

http://arago4.tnw.utwente.nl/stonedead/movies/holy-grail/thumbnails/04-call-it-a-draw.jpg

hater
05-10-2007, 01:20 PM
Amare is nothing more but a pushup machine w/out Nash.

SAGambler
05-10-2007, 01:21 PM
Golden State did what San Antonio could not. And the Golden State victory was solely due to the referees. Also, Charlotte and Boston beat San Antonio this year and would've beaten them in a playoff series like they are supposed to, since they're both better teams than the Spurs. Therefore, Refs > Golden State > Dallas > Charlotte > Boston >San Antonio.

Tim Duncan is an overrated fluke.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :troll :idiot

NoMoneyDown
05-10-2007, 01:23 PM
Golden State did what San Antonio could not. And the Golden State victory was solely due to the referees. Also, Charlotte and Boston beat San Antonio this year and would've beaten them in a playoff series like they are supposed to, since they're both better teams than the Spurs. Therefore, Refs > Golden State > Dallas > Charlotte > Boston >San Antonio.

Tim Duncan is an overrated fluke.

30 posts, joined yesteday, Mav's fan, Spurs hater.

Welcome aboard! You're off to a great start! Either you will be constantly flamed by everyone here - including other Mav's fans, or be banned eventually. Enjoy your stay!

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 01:25 PM
30 posts, joined yesteday, Mav's fan, Spurs hater.

Welcome aboard! You're off to a great start! Either you will be constantly flamed by everyone here - including other Mav's fans, or be banned eventually. Enjoy your stay!

I'm just posting my astute opinions. Can we please lay off the personal insults and get back to talking basketball. I can't help it if my observations turn out to be correct.

NoMoneyDown
05-10-2007, 01:26 PM
I'm just posting my astute opinions. Can we please lay off the personal insults and get back to talking basketball. I can't help it if my observations turn out to be correct.

Not personal insults, just my own astute opinion.

hater
05-10-2007, 01:28 PM
I'm just posting my astute opinions. Can we please lay off the personal insults and get back to talking basketball. I can't help it if my observations turn out to be correct.

how pathetic, a mavfan trolling the forums after his team was beat up out of the 1st round :lmao

do you have an ounce of self dignity?

easjer
05-10-2007, 01:28 PM
Only a moron would state that Tim Duncan is an overrated fluke.

9 First All-NBA team, 1 Second All-NBA team
10 Defensive Team selections
2 League MVPs
3 Finals MVPs
3 championships

Yeah, total fluke! My God, I see the light!

:rolleyes

rocyaice
05-10-2007, 01:28 PM
My vote would be Roy Tarpley.

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 01:30 PM
Not personal insults, just my own astute opinion.

In any event, the Spurs couldn't stay on the court with the 87-88 Mavericks. Duncan would get posterized repeatedly by Roy Tarpley, and Derek Harper would be able to take Tony Longoria off the dribble anytime he wanted. And you guys wouldn't have an answer for Mark Aguirre.

http://www.nba.com/media/history/dal_uni_02.jpg

Aguirre, The Wrath of God

The Dallas Mavericks: The Best Team, The Best Fans:

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/uploads/david_drunk2.jpg

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 01:31 PM
how pathetic, a mavfan trolling the forums after his team was beat up out of the 1st round :lmao

do you have an ounce of self dignity?

We didn't really lose since the refs gave it to Golden State. Can we just get back to talking basketball and avoid the personal insults? I can't help it if James Donaldson was a better player than David Robinson in his day and Erick Dampier owns Tim Duncan today.

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 01:32 PM
Only a moron would state that Tim Duncan is an overrated fluke.

9 First All-NBA team, 1 Second All-NBA team
10 Defensive Team selections
2 League MVPs
3 Finals MVPs
3 championships

Yeah, total fluke! My God, I see the light!

:rolleyes

The only reason Duncan has gotten those awards is because he's a squeaky clean player with a flawless image and Stern wants to get away from the thug image that comes to mind when the casual fan thinks of the NBA.

Dampier > Duncan.

Cry Havoc
05-10-2007, 01:35 PM
http://arago4.tnw.utwente.nl/stonedead/movies/holy-grail/thumbnails/04-call-it-a-draw.jpg

I'll bite ya legs off!

da_suns_fan__
05-10-2007, 01:36 PM
What a great story...Amare is doubted by everyone under the sun after micro-fracture surgery and comes back to make his first all-nba first team.

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 01:37 PM
What a great story...Amare is doubted by everyone under the sun after micro-fracture surgery and comes back to make his first all-nba first team.

Fluke.

Diop > Amare

to21
05-10-2007, 01:43 PM
:troll



:dont

LEONARD
05-10-2007, 01:45 PM
How could a "fluke player" like Dwight Howard make 3rd team all NBA??? :wtf :wtf :wtf :wtf

:lol

lefty
05-10-2007, 01:46 PM
We didn't really lose since the refs gave it to Golden State. Can we just get back to talking basketball and avoid the personal insults? I can't help it if James Donaldson was a better player than David Robinson in his day and Erick Dampier owns Tim Duncan today.


Sure...yeah...sure :rolleyes

degenerate_gambler
05-10-2007, 01:51 PM
Fluke.

Diop > Amare



Aren't you forgetting about Shawn Bradley??

FromWayDowntown
05-10-2007, 01:53 PM
MavericksDynasty is killing me.

In ohter news, it's the first time since 1992-93 that Shaquille O'Neal didn't make an All-NBA team and the first time since 1998-99 that Shaq wasn't First Team All-NBA.

It's Timmy's 9th time as a First Team All-NBA player. His p.f.-affected season in 2005-06 relegated him to the Second Team for the only time in his career.

GrandeDavid
05-10-2007, 01:58 PM
Not impressed. With the exception of Dirk, those 4 guys are all flukes. Tim Duncan couldn't average 22 and 11 in the WNBA.

Hell, Lenny Wilkens > Tim Duncan

http://www.achievement.org/achievers/wil1/large/wil1-006.jpg

You're right. Duncan is not one of the ten greatest players of all time, the most unselfish superstar hall of famer of all time. He sucks. He couldn't even hack it in the WNBA. Nice take.

Now take your outdated, ugly ass Mavs logo the hell back to the hole in which the Warriors buried it, your team and your Ostertag-esque in the clutch "superstar", Dirk Nowitski.

OldDirtMcGirt
05-10-2007, 01:58 PM
I don't know if it HAD to be a true center. Plus Amare is not even a true center. these are the big men I'd put ahead of Amare:

Yao
Boozer
D Howard
Bosch
Camby
Shaq

How's that haterade working out for you? Amare is clearly better than Howard, Boozer, Bosh, Camby and Shaq. As I said before, Yao is better than Amare, but the reason he wasn't first team is because he was injured.

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 02:03 PM
You're right. Duncan is not one of the ten greatest players of all time, the most unselfish superstar hall of famer of all time. He sucks. He couldn't even hack it in the WNBA. Nice take.

I'm being a little hard on Timmy, I admit it. To give him his fair due, he is definitely one of the top 60 players in the NBA today. If I had to choose between him and Roy Tarpley, I'd give the slight edge to Duncan. Of course, Tarpley is 41 years old. It's a tossup for sure, but Duncan gets the slight edge today. Of course, in his prime, Roy would've destroyed Timmy.

http://www.ultimatenba.com/galerias/RoyTarpley/RoyTarpley003.jpg

naico
05-10-2007, 02:04 PM
How's that haterade working out for you? Amare is clearly better than Howard, Boozer, Bosh, Camby and Shaq. As I said before, Yao is better than Amare, but the reason he wasn't first team is because he was injured.

Make that yao + Bosh

timvp
05-10-2007, 02:05 PM
You guys realize that MavericksDynasty is just mocking the poster SpursDynasty, right?

:lol

--Kori

Martin R
05-10-2007, 02:08 PM
lol. there's one guy who voted for Manu Ginobili according to the bottom line of this column.
39 votes for Tony.
(http://www.nba.com/news/allnba_070510.html)

bdictjames
05-10-2007, 02:09 PM
Again, the broadcasters fuck it up.

hater
05-10-2007, 02:10 PM
Make that yao + Bosh

add Boozer as well. All 3 are clearly better than Amare.

that plus Camby is 10x the defensive force amare is.

and Shaq is 10x the dominant force Amare will ever be.

romain.star
05-10-2007, 02:14 PM
i hope the mavs fans are enjoying this thread because it might be their last occasion to express their precious views and opinions
TIM FOR MVP

hater
05-10-2007, 02:14 PM
boozer >>>>>>>>> amare

bozzer is better than amare at:
- defense
- post game
- midrange jumper
- rebounding

amare is better at:
- dunking
- pushups

duncan228
05-10-2007, 02:15 PM
Now that I've gotten through the madness these threads disintegrate into, I just want to say: Congrats Timmy!
As always, well deserved.

Martin R
05-10-2007, 02:15 PM
I'm being a little hard on Timmy, I admit it. To give him his fair due, he is definitely one of the top 60 players in the NBA today. If I had to choose between him and Roy Tarpley, I'd give the slight edge to Duncan. Of course, Tarpley is 41 years old. It's a tossup for sure, but Duncan gets the slight edge today. Of course, in his prime, Roy would've destroyed Timmy.


This is a clear evidence that whatever Mark Cuban illness is, it is a contagious one.

Xylus
05-10-2007, 02:17 PM
How's that haterade working out for you? Amare is clearly better than Howard, Boozer, Bosh, Camby and Shaq. As I said before, Yao is better than Amare, but the reason he wasn't first team is because he was injured.

Statistically, this season...

Amare > Howard
Amare > Camby
Amare > Shaq

Bosh > Amare
Boozer > Amare
Yao > Amare

Yao missed almost half the season, so there's no way he deserves NBA All-First Team. I imagine that Chris Bosh will eventually get a selection when the Raptors become more of a force, or as his stats continue to improve. He also missed 13 games this season. He averaged 6 mpg more than Amare, and averaged 2 ppg and 1 rpg more.

The only person on that list who seems like a more worthy candidate is Carlos Boozer, and I can't make a case for Amare over Boozer. I'm glad Amare got the selection, but Boozer outclassed Amare in most areas.

Amare shot 10% better from the FT line (.781 to .685), he shot better from the field (.575 to .561), played more games (82 to 74), and scored at a faster clip (20.4 ppg in 32.8 min vs. 20.9 ppg in 34.6).

da_suns_fan__
05-10-2007, 02:17 PM
bozzer is better than amare at:
- defense
- post game
- midrange jumper
- rebounding

amare is better at:
- dunking
- pushups

Wrong. Amare is better as pissing Spurs fans off.

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 02:18 PM
Wrong. Amare is better as pissing Spurs fans off.

If you want to piss off Spurs fans, just rattle off the facts as it pertains to Timmy being an overrated fluke. They hate that.

da_suns_fan__
05-10-2007, 02:19 PM
Statistically, this season...

Amare > Howard
Amare > Camby
Amare > Shaq

Bosh > Amare
Boozer > Amare
Yao > Amare

Yao missed almost half the season, so there's no way he deserves NBA All-First Team. I imagine that Chris Bosh will eventually get a selection when the Raptors become more of a force, or as his stats continue to improve. He also missed 13 games this season. He averaged 6 mpg more than Amare, and averaged 2 ppg and 1 rpg more.

The only person on that list who seems like a more worthy candidate is Carlos Boozer, and I can't make a case for Amare over Boozer. I'm glad Amare got the selection, but Boozer outclassed Amare in most areas.

Amare shot 10% better from the FT line (.781 to .685), he shot better from the field (.575 to .561), played more games (82 to 74), and scored at a faster clip (20.4 ppg in 32.8 min vs. 20.9 ppg in 34.6).


And don't forget that it is trivial to compare Amare to Boozer since Okhur is their starting center. Same with Bosh.

Way to go STAT!

mabber
05-10-2007, 02:19 PM
You guys realize that MavericksDynasty is just mocking the poster SpursDynasty, right?

:lol

--Kori

He's got him down pretty good :lol

da_suns_fan__
05-10-2007, 02:19 PM
If you want to piss off Spurs fans, just rattle off the facts as it pertains to Timmy being an overrated fluke. They hate that.

Not as much as they hate him being called "Boring".

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 02:22 PM
Well he IS boring. Good job Amare on being more colorful. You're just doing what you're supposed to do, which is have more personality than Tim Duncan.

That commercial where Duncan gets pulled over by the cop and freezes him with a stare if funny, but the humor is a fluke.

da_suns_fan__
05-10-2007, 02:22 PM
To celebrate this achievement, Amare's gonna slam home a game winning dunk in game 3 and cap it off by doing some of his signature pushups on the Spurs' logo a la T.O.

Xylus
05-10-2007, 02:22 PM
And don't forget that it is trivial to compare Amare to Boozer since Okhur is their starting center. Same with Bosh.

Way to go STAT!
True.

Thus, Amare deserves the All-NBA First team selection. Yao only played 48 games this season, no way in hell he deserves it. Camby is a great rebounder and great shotblocker, but he's not a scorer and he doesn't dominate games offensively like Amare. And don't get me started on Shaq. :rolleyes

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 02:24 PM
If Amare is STAT for Standing Tall and Talented, then Tim Duncan is STAB, for Standing Tall and Boring. Good Job Amare on getting colorful neck tattoes. You're just doing what you're supposed to do, which is have some personality.

romain.star
05-10-2007, 02:24 PM
i'm kinna shocked by TP not being part of the All third NBA Team...
Nor Wade or Billups deserve to be ahead of TP...

da_suns_fan__
05-10-2007, 02:26 PM
i'm kinna shocked by TP not being part of the All third NBA Team...
Nor Wade or Billups deserve to be ahead of TP...

:drunk

TDMVPDPOY
05-10-2007, 02:26 PM
This is so rigged man

last season brand had a all-out season, and was awarded the all-nba 1st team honors = same shit to boozer but he didnt get any respect for this year and the jazz run which is better than the clippers run last season, lame shit double standards.

mardigan
05-10-2007, 02:27 PM
Billups deserves it more than Tony imo


Mavricksdynasty>>>Spursdynasty

TDMVPDPOY
05-10-2007, 02:28 PM
True.

Thus, Amare deserves the All-NBA First team selection. Yao only played 48 games this season, no way in hell he deserves it. Camby is a great rebounder and great shotblocker, but he's not a scorer and he doesn't dominate games offensively like Amare. And don't get me started on Shaq. :rolleyes

then wattabout wade? he was out for 20 games i think, and he got in

Martin R
05-10-2007, 02:28 PM
Not as much as they hate him being called "Boring".

that's right. He is the most BORING player to watch ever......now, he is also the BEST player to LEARN about basketball from.

Did you see when you know a game so much that it becomes predictable and a little boring but at the same time you know all the ropes that take you to win?

Xylus
05-10-2007, 02:29 PM
then wattabout wade? he was out for 20 games i think, and he got in
20 games is a lot less than 34 games.

Martin R
05-10-2007, 02:29 PM
To celebrate this achievement, Amare's gonna slam home a game winning dunk in game 3 and cap it off by doing some of his signature pushups on the Spurs' logo a la T.O.

+ 3 additional pushups for showing off.

FromWayDowntown
05-10-2007, 02:32 PM
If you give All-NBA selections any real historical significance, Tim Duncan is placing himself (again) in some pretty select company.

This is Tim's 10th All-NBA selection. The only players in the history of the NBA and ABA who've made more All-League (1st, 2nd, or 3rd) teams than Tim (and those who are tied with Tim at 10) are:

15 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
14 - Karl Malone
13 - Shaquille O'Neal
12 - Bob Cousy
12 - Julius Erving
12 - Hakeem Olajuwon
12 - Dolph Schayes
12 - Jerry West
11 - Charles Barkley
11 - John Havlicek
11 - Michael Jordan
11 - Bob Pettitt
11 - Oscar Robertson
11 - Bill Russell
11 - John Stockton

It's also Timmy's 9th selection the First Team, which puts him even closer to very, very elite company. The only players with more First Team selections than Timmy are:

11 - Karl Malone
10 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
10 - Bob Cousy
10 - Jerry West
10 - Michael Jordan
10 - Bob Pettitt
10 - Elgin Baylor

bdictjames
05-10-2007, 02:33 PM
Boozer should be ahead of Anthony and Bosh

Dude deserves it.

And the league really lacks some good centers. Okafor needs to emerge as the true superstar he is capable of.

TDMVPDPOY
05-10-2007, 02:33 PM
i'm kinna shocked by TP not being part of the All third NBA Team...
Nor Wade or Billups deserve to be ahead of TP...

deron williams or boozer didnt get any honors, even though i think at least one utah player shouldve made it

mbass
05-10-2007, 02:35 PM
The only reason Duncan has gotten those awards is because he's a squeaky clean player with a flawless image and Stern wants to get away from the thug image that comes to mind when the casual fan thinks of the NBA.

Dampier > Duncan.


How about Diop > Dampier so that must mean that Diop >>>>> Duncan. :sleep :wtf

romain.star
05-10-2007, 02:35 PM
:drunk

my point is that TP is up to something big during this postseason... he played something like 77 games and got some rest at the very end of the regular season, he didn't play the World Championship last summer.
Seing Manu is becoming our new Beno, he knows he has to step up, he is 25, his time has come...

TDMVPDPOY
05-10-2007, 02:36 PM
If you give All-NBA selections any real historical significance, Tim Duncan is placing himself (again) in some pretty select company.

This is Tim's 10th All-NBA selection. The only players in the history of the NBA and ABA who've made more All-League (1st, 2nd, or 3rd) teams than Tim (and those who are tied with Tim at 10) are:

15 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
14 - Karl Malone
13 - Shaquille O'Neal
12 - Bob Cousy
12 - Julius Erving
12 - Hakeem Olajuwon
12 - Dolph Schayes
12 - Jerry West
11 - Charles Barkley
11 - John Havlicek
11 - Michael Jordan
11 - Bob Pettitt
11 - Oscar Robertson
11 - Bill Russell
11 - John Stockton

It's also Timmy's 9th selection the First Team, which puts him even closer to very, very elite company. The only players with more First Team selections than Timmy are:

11 - Karl Malone
10 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
10 - Bob Cousy
10 - Jerry West
10 - Michael Jordan
10 - Bob Pettitt
10 - Elgin Baylor

that tim duncan dude, wat fuckn team does he play for :reading

romain.star
05-10-2007, 02:37 PM
deron williams or boozer didnt get any honors, even though i think at least one utah player shouldve made it

my guards for the Third All NBA team would be Deron and Tony
Boozer has to replace Amare in the First All NBA Team

Spurs1234
05-10-2007, 02:39 PM
so they are rounding duncans scoring from 19.98 to 20 i see, everyone is doing that.....if you look at his total points, for the year, its 1599, out of 80 games played....to be 20 exactly, he would have to score 1600...do the math, 1600/80=20 nice round numbers...i thought they didn't round up on guys stats.....i remember when the season ended, i wanted to see if he finished with 20, as i know there is not a big difference between 19.9 and 20, but for the 20/10 threshold there is...and i saw 80 games play, X 20.0 and got 1600...so it took 5 minutes to find his total points and i was like dam when i saw 1599...its like when you need a 70 to pass a test and you get 69...my rooomate and i always have this discussion around fantasy sports, when he has a guy on his team, he always rounds up, so found it interesting duncan is getting the free pass here.

mbass
05-10-2007, 02:39 PM
I'm being a little hard on Timmy, I admit it. To give him his fair due, he is definitely one of the top 60 players in the NBA today. If I had to choose between him and Roy Tarpley, I'd give the slight edge to Duncan. Of course, Tarpley is 41 years old. It's a tossup for sure, but Duncan gets the slight edge today. Of course, in his prime, Roy would've destroyed Timmy.

http://www.ultimatenba.com/galerias/RoyTarpley/RoyTarpley003.jpg


Except that Tarpley was a big time druggie on and off the court.

Spurminator
05-10-2007, 02:44 PM
It's also Timmy's 9th selection the First Team, which puts him even closer to very, very elite company. The only players with more First Team selections than Timmy are:

11 - Karl Malone
10 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
10 - Bob Cousy
10 - Jerry West
10 - Michael Jordan
10 - Bob Pettitt
10 - Elgin Baylor

That's pretty damn incredible. It's very possible that Duncan will be at the top of that list.... and given the amount of Hall-of-Fame quality forwards he's played against in his career, it's even more amazing.

mbass
05-10-2007, 02:44 PM
Well he IS boring. Good job Amare on being more colorful. You're just doing what you're supposed to do, which is have more personality than Tim Duncan.

That commercial where Duncan gets pulled over by the cop and freezes him with a stare if funny, but the humor is a fluke.


I haven't seen that commercial - which one is it????

bdictjames
05-10-2007, 02:46 PM
Timmy - best player in the last 10 years.

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 02:49 PM
Timmy - best player in the last 10 years.

I agree, he's been the best player on the Spurs in the last 10 years, but just barely, slightly better than D-Rob or Sean Elliott.

FromWayDowntown
05-10-2007, 02:51 PM
That's pretty damn incredible. It's very possible that Duncan will be at the top of that list.... and given the amount of Hall-of-Fame quality forwards he's played against in his career, it's even more amazing.

Tim's tied at 9 First Team All-League selections with a bunch of nobodys and who-dats, though: Oscar Robertson, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson

bdictjames
05-10-2007, 02:54 PM
Tim's tied at 9 First Team All-League selections with a bunch of nobodys and who-dats, though: Oscar Robertson, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson
I agree.

And whoever heard of Michael Jordan? Sounds like a common street name to me. :toast

TDMVPDPOY
05-10-2007, 02:55 PM
hey waT is shaqs record for the last 10 years for allnba and def teams?? i wanna see how duncan fares up with shaq on terms who is GOAT.

romain.star
05-10-2007, 02:55 PM
I agree, he's been the best player on the Spurs in the last 10 years, but just barely, slightly better than D-Rob or Sean Elliott.

you seem to forget Shawn Bradley and Martin Muursepp my friend

romain.star
05-10-2007, 02:57 PM
Bradley and Muursepp being barely, slightly better than Durk and Steeve O

FromWayDowntown
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
I will admit that relying on the sheer number of All-NBA selections is a bit skewed, since the league didn't recognize a Third Team All-NBA until 1988-89, meaning that a lot of the older players had to make one of the first two teams in order to get an All-NBA selection.

It doesn't matter with Tim, though, because he's never made the Third Team. If you somewhat arbitrarily eliminate Third Team selections -- if you keep it Old School like that -- then Shaq and Barkley are tied with Duncan with 10 All-NBA selections and Olajuwon and Stockton fall behind Duncan with 9 and 8 selections, respectively.

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
How about Diop > Dampier so that must mean that Diop >>>>> Duncan. :sleep :wtf

Yep. I'm sure you remember Diop absolutely PWNING Duncan in overtime of Game 7 last year. Absolutely Diop > Duncan.

SpursFanFirst
05-10-2007, 03:08 PM
I am shocked amare got 1st team.

I would not even put him in 2nd team.

:lol That's what I said!!! What the heck? I really don't get all the Amare love. Hm.

Martin R
05-10-2007, 03:19 PM
Long life & prosper for the Dallas Chokers.

themvp
05-10-2007, 03:58 PM
Props to Duncan! Wow!

Nashfan
05-10-2007, 07:52 PM
Amare is nothing more but a pushup machine w/out Nash.


Guess you didn't watch him when he played with Marbury. He was rookie of the year and scored well.

samikeyp
05-10-2007, 07:53 PM
Guess you didn't watch him when he played with Marbury. He was rookie of the year and scored well.

Very true....although I think its safe to say Amare's improvement as a player has been benefited by Nash's presence.

sunsbum
05-10-2007, 08:00 PM
Very true....although I think its safe to say Amare's improvement as a player has been benefited by Nash's presence.


youre KIDDING!?!?


worst post EVER.

samikeyp
05-10-2007, 08:02 PM
You don't think that having an 2-time MVP and HOF'er as your point guard is a benefit?

FromWayDowntown
05-10-2007, 08:11 PM
You don't think that having an 2-time MVP and HOF'er as your point guard is a benefit?

I'm also a little baffled by that response, mikey. I didn't think there was any attempt to flame Stoudemire at all -- just an acknowledgment that his improvement through the years has probably been accelerated by playing with Nash. I don't think that's a particularly controversial view; it's certainly not as if Stoudemire's growth as a player has been retarded at all by having Nash as a teammate. And clearly, Stoudemire has grown substantially as a player. I don't know why a Suns fan wouldn't be okay with acknowledging that correlation.

samikeyp
05-10-2007, 08:14 PM
Exactly, FWD.

Hey, I am a huge admirer of Amare's game and I have no doubt that no matter where he played, he would be a dominant force and an All-Star. I think if he was on a bad team, his stats would be even sicker because he would have to do more. But as a young player, you benefit from the veterans around you...and who better to help you get better than Steve Nash?

milkyway21
05-10-2007, 08:17 PM
Amare is overrated :lmao

so where's Boozer? He's tops in double-doubles this season, right?

sunsbum
05-10-2007, 08:19 PM
You don't think that having an 2-time MVP and HOF'er as your point guard is a benefit?


oh i do, i just think there pretty much isnt more of an obvious statement you can make besides the sky is blue.

samikeyp
05-10-2007, 08:25 PM
oh i do, i just think there pretty much isnt more of an obvious statement you can make besides the sky is blue.

So...because it may be obvious, I shouldn't say it or not allowed to?

A lot of Suns fans are complaining about the shit talking some Spurs fans (although to those Suns fans...they think its ALL Spurs fans) are doing...I give high praise to Nash and Stoudemire and get called out for it?

Nice.

baseline bum
05-10-2007, 08:45 PM
9-time All NBA first team is sick, and every single year he got it, it was an obvious pick. How many players have the kind of longevity to be a top-5 MVP candidate every year for 10 straight?

MavericksDynasty
05-10-2007, 08:46 PM
9-time All NBA first team is sick, and every single year he got it, it was an obvious pick. How many players have the kind of longevity to be a top-5 MVP candidate every year for 10 straight?


He's a fluke.

sunsbum
05-10-2007, 09:10 PM
So...because it may be obvious, I shouldn't say it or not allowed to?

A lot of Suns fans are complaining about the shit talking some Spurs fans (although to those Suns fans...they think its ALL Spurs fans) are doing...I give high praise to Nash and Stoudemire and get called out for it?

Nice.


i thought you were being a tad sarcastic, my fault. i need to change from a pass first point gaurd to a cheap shotting shooting gaurd.

samikeyp
05-10-2007, 09:11 PM
Not at all....I think Nash has turned around that franchise.

Admidave50
05-10-2007, 10:03 PM
That's plainly stupid! Amare has the same amount of votes as Lebron and there is no way that you can compare these 2!

You yake out Lebron and his team is a lottery team while Phoenix has all stars such as Nash & Marion.

Lebron should have been 1st team SF, Nowitzki PF and Duncan C!

Amare is not much a Center than Duncan!

Borosai
05-10-2007, 10:05 PM
i thought you were being a tad sarcastic, my fault. i need to change from a pass first point gaurd to a cheap shotting shooting gaurd.

Raja Bell? :elephant

sunsbum
05-10-2007, 10:15 PM
Raja Bell? :elephant
:lol :lol

Gaddabout
05-11-2007, 12:09 AM
Take Nash off the Suns and I don't care what kind of offense you run, it's a 40- to 45-win team. Neither Marion nor Stoudemire are players who create. They are beneficiaries. As a Suns fan, I would not personally vote Stoudemire or Marion to the All-NBA team. They are both very good players, and there are lots of very good players who did not make it to the all-star game this year. Stoudemire could become an all-NBAer, but he's got a long ways to go, and I don't think we'll see him develop a back-to-the-basket game until Nash is gone. IMO, his growth is stunted, but the Suns are still much better for it by asking him to stick to what he does best, which is catch and score around the basket.

And that's the truth.

gilmor
05-11-2007, 12:38 AM
I would love Nash to play for Spurs.. That guy is all class..

flipcritic
05-11-2007, 01:11 AM
He's a fluke.

The expert fluke has spoken.

cornbread
05-11-2007, 09:41 AM
What a great story...Amare is doubted by everyone under the sun after micro-fracture surgery and comes back to make his first all-nba first team.
And then he completely overshadows the accomplishment by calling the Spurs dirty and referring to his "gonads". Not such a great story.

BigBeezie
05-11-2007, 10:44 AM
Amare over Boozer, etc.? That's a joke.

Without looking at PPG, etc...I thought Boozer had a better year. I also think Boozer is the best player on his team, where Amare is sometimes the 3rd of 4th best player on his team. That being said, I would take Boozer over Amare.