Stoudemire calls Spurs 'dirty' (Bruce & Manu)

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Stoudemire calls Spurs 'dirty'
Doug Haller
The Arizona Republic
May. 10, 2007 02:02 PM
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...0amare-ON.html

Amaré Stoudemire called the San Antonio Spurs a dirty team Thursday and directed most of his words toward defensive specialist Bruce Bowen and sixth man Manu Ginobili.
Hours after the Suns center learned he had made First Team All-NBA, Stoudemire unleashed frustration at what he said were attempts by Bowen and Ginobili to hurt him during the Suns' Game 2 win in the Western Conference semifinals.

Bowen's play irritated him most. In the third quarter, Stoudemire felt a kick to his left Achilles tendon as he leaped inside. He came down awkwardly and said his foot was sore the rest of the night. He got medical treatment before practice.

Stoudemire said he wasn't sure Bowen had kicked him on purpose until he saw the replay.

"It was a wide-open play," he said. "I saw the replay and Bruce Bowen came up behind me, measured his feet and kicked me purposely in the back of my Achilles. That was a dirty play.

"I hope the NBA looks into in and takes a look at Bruce Bowen. In Game 1, I told Bruce to calm down because he might get somebody hurt out there. He had a 'don't care' type of attitude. And it showed in Game 2, when he kicked me purposely in my Achilles. I almost came down wrong and he almost caused an injury. He's known for doing that. I just hope the NBA and the commissioner takes a look because it's definitely a dirty play and that's not something we need."

Stoudemire said the Suns are sending game film into the league office for review. Game 3 of the best-of-seven series is Saturday in San Antonio.

"I'm not worried about it," Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said. "I don't think it's a big deal. . . . The league will look at it. Whatever they decide, fine."

Stoudemire has no doubt Bowen meant to kick him.

"For a player to be behind me, there's no way you can try and go for a block and kick me directly in the Achilles," he said. "There's no way. I've dunked on guys. I've been dunked on, so I know how it is to play hard out there. That wasn't a case of someone playing hard, it was just a case of trying to injure someone, plain and simple."

Stoudemire said he didn't react immediately because he didn't want to hurt his team with a technical foul or suspension.

"We're trying to win a ball game," he said. The series is tied 1-1.

Stoudemire said he had told Bowen to "Calm down" in Game 1, because he felt Bowen was playing recklessly.

"He was just kind of out of control," Stoudemire said. "I mean, Bruce Bowen's normally under control, but he ran directly into me. I said, 'Man, you're going to get somebody hurt out here. He was like, 'Shut up." I was like, 'Man, I'm just giving you some cautions. You're going to get somebody hurt.' But he wasn't hearing it. . . . Bruce Bowen, who's a two-time champion, should have more class than that."

Stoudemire was upset with Ginobili for grabbing his knee while falling. He said Ginobili had kneed him in the crotch earlier this season.

"The Spurs are a dirty team," Stoudemire said.

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Stoudemire calls Spurs 'dirty'
Doug Haller
The Arizona Republic
May. 10, 2007 01:37 PM

Amaré Stoudemire called the San Antonio Spurs a dirty team Thursday and directed most of his words toward defensive specialist Bruce Bowen and sixth man Manu Ginobili.

Hours after the Suns center learned he had made First Team All-NBA, Stoudemire unleashed frustration at what he said were attempts by Bowen and Ginobili to hurt him during Phoenix’s Game 2 win in the Western Conference semifinals.

Bowen's play irritated him most. In the third quarter, Stoudemire felt a kick to his left Achilles tendon as he leaped inside. He came down awkwardly and said his foot was sore the rest of the night. He got medical treatment before practice.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...atdirty-CR.html

[ALVAREZ6]

:lmao


how many more retards does it take....

[Chr!s Childs]

I agree with Stoudemire......

[coachmac87]

every team has a dirty team moment....the suns have raja bell...he gave kobe the rock bottom last year!!!!

[SpursWoman]

Gee, I never saw this one coming.

[florige]

Stoudemire calls Spurs 'dirty'
Doug Haller
The Arizona Republic
May. 10, 2007 01:37 PM

Amaré Stoudemire called the San Antonio Spurs a dirty team Thursday and directed most of his words toward defensive specialist Bruce Bowen and sixth man Manu Ginobili.

Hours after the Suns center learned he had made First Team All-NBA, Stoudemire unleashed frustration at what he said were attempts by Bowen and Ginobili to hurt him during Phoenix’s Game 2 win in the Western Conference semifinals.

Bowen's play irritated him most. In the third quarter, Stoudemire felt a kick to his left Achilles tendon as he leaped inside. He came down awkwardly and said his foot was sore the rest of the night. He got medical treatment before practice.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...atdirty-CR.html




:lol Join the club Amare. Who hasn't called Bowen dirty yet...

[CubanMustGo]

Whiney butt forum.

Mark Cuban would be proud.

[rayray2k8]

Wow..
What is this guy thinking?
This series is about to go at another level.
If he thinks that's dirty, then he'll be crying murder on Sunday.

[NoMoneyDown]

For the last time, Manu, put some damn Speed Stick on before leaving the locker room!

[smeagol]

Fuck you Amare!

Go and play curling if you want no contact.

[DarrinS]

Gee, thanks Amare. Extra motivation to kick your ass.

Sincerely,


BB

[SpursWoman]

Wow..
What is this guy thinking?
This series is about to go at another level.
If he thinks that's dirty, then he'll be crying murder on Sunday.

You're surprised? At least one player/coach does this every year in the playoffs to get Bruce out of the series....by foul trouble from pussy little calls.

[NoMoneyDown]

The Suns need something to feed off of coming to San Antonio. They know playing the REF card usually has it's rewards the next game, and they'll need all the help they can get in the AT&T Center for the next two games.

[Spurminator]

Just a little bit of conveniently-timed gamesmanship with hopes that Bowen will be watched closely in the next game. Whatever.

[ALVAREZ6]

Raja Bell is a dirt bag motherfucking pussy who acts hard on a basketball court. He's a complete bitch.

[mabber]

You're surprised? At least one player/coach does this every year in the playoffs to get Bruce out of the series.

Amare should really learn to not say much to the press. He always ends up sounding stupid when he talks to the press. Doesn't he realize what a pussy this makes him sound like?

[FromWayDowntown]

Again, I ask -- how is it that the Spurs are the crybabies in this series?

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

I wish we still had K-Will to show Amare what Dirty Basketball is really about

[Scumbag]

Doug Haller
The Arizona Republic
May. 10, 2007 02:02 PM
Amaré Stoudemire called the San Antonio Spurs a dirty team Thursday and directed most of his words toward defensive specialist Bruce Bowen and sixth man Manu Ginobili.

Hours after the Suns center learned he had made First Team All-NBA, Stoudemire unleashed frustration at what he said were attempts by Bowen and Ginobili to hurt him during the Suns' Game 2 win in the Western Conference semifinals.

Bowen's play irritated him most. In the third quarter, Stoudemire felt a kick to his left Achilles tendon as he leaped inside. He came down awkwardly and said his foot was sore the rest of the night. He got medical treatment before practice.


Stoudemire said he wasn't sure Bowen had kicked him on purpose until he saw the replay.

"It was a wide-open play," he said. "I saw the replay and Bruce Bowen came up behind me, measured his feet and kicked me purposely in the back of my Achilles. That was a dirty play.

"I hope the NBA looks into in and takes a look at Bruce Bowen. In Game 1, I told Bruce to calm down because he might get somebody hurt out there. He had a 'don't care' type of attitude. And it showed in Game 2, when he kicked me purposely in my Achilles. I almost came down wrong and he almost caused an injury. He's known for doing that. I just hope the NBA and the commissioner takes a look because it's definitely a dirty play and that's not something we need."

Stoudemire said the Suns are sending game film into the league office for review. Game 3 of the best-of-seven series is Saturday in San Antonio.

"I'm not worried about it," Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said. "I don't think it's a big deal. . . . The league will look at it. Whatever they decide, fine."

Stoudemire has no doubt Bowen meant to kick him.

"For a player to be behind me, there's no way you can try and go for a block and kick me directly in the Achilles," he said. "There's no way. I've dunked on guys. I've been dunked on, so I know how it is to play hard out there. That wasn't a case of someone playing hard, it was just a case of trying to injure someone, plain and simple."

Stoudemire said he didn't react immediately because he didn't want to hurt his team with a technical foul or suspension.

"We're trying to win a ball game," he said. The series is tied 1-1.

Stoudemire said he had told Bowen to "Calm down" in Game 1, because he felt Bowen was playing recklessly.

"He was just kind of out of control," Stoudemire said. "I mean, Bruce Bowen's normally under control, but he ran directly into me. I said, 'Man, you're going to get somebody hurt out here. He was like, 'Shut up." I was like, 'Man, I'm just giving you some cautions. You're going to get somebody hurt.' But he wasn't hearing it. . . . Bruce Bowen, who's a two-time champion, should have more class than that."

Stoudemire was upset with Ginobili for grabbing his knee while falling. He said Ginobili had kneed him in the crotch earlier this season.

"The Spurs are a dirty team," Stoudemire said.


Time for Pat Burke to use the brass knuckles on Duncan.

[MoSpur]

Makes him sound like a little girl. However, I think if it were the other way around, we'd be complaining as well and wanting someone like Raja Bell to get suspended.

[coachmac87]

how can amare have the nerve to call out bruce bowen and say the whole team is dirty...maybe he does not recall what reputation raja bell has earned with the kobe bryant rock bottom last year...and not to mention the karate chop to manu in game 1...if he really wants to call out a leg trip compared to a blow to the head.. automatic one game suspension..this could actually be in the suns favor..bringing attention of dirty play to the series which puts the magnifine glass on bell and bowen...ill take my chances bowen does the best staying out of trouble

[FromWayDowntown]

Makes him sound like a little girl. However, I think if it were the other way around, we'd be complaining as well and wanting someone like Raja Bell to get suspended.

We, as in those who post here, might be.

But you can be sure that neither the Spurs players nor the Spurs coaches would be saying that in the media.

[TxJudsonRocketTx]

Has anyone seen the video of this shit yet?

[MoSpur]

We might be. But you can be sure that neither the Spurs players nor the Spurs coaches would be saying that in the media.

You're probably right about that.

[DarrinS]

To really put this shit to bed, watch the video again. Bruce does appear to kick Amare, but, if you look closely, Bruce NEVER LOOKS DOWN. I guess he has incredible aim.


The real reason Bruces right leg moves toward Amare is because Bruce is trying to stop his forward momentum. He doesn't want to foul Amare on an obvious dunk. Have you ever run sprints from baseline to baseline? How do you stop yourself and get ready to run the other direction? You do what Bruce did in this video.

[MavericksDynasty]

Good Job STAT. You're just doing what you're supposed to do and telling it like it is. The Spurs are old, dirty and boring. The Suns are young, clean and exciting. Not as good as the Mavs, nobody can touch Dallas, except for the Warriors + 3 blind, bribed mice, but good job Amare. Tim Duncan is an overrated fluke and his nickname should be STAB -- Standing Tall and Boring.

The Dallas Mavericks. The best team. The best fans:

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/uploads/david_drunk2.jpg

Aguirre, Wrath of God:

http://www.nba.com/media/history/dal_uni_02.jpg

[mabber]

Makes him sound like a little girl. However, I think if it were the other way around, we'd be complaining as well and wanting someone like Raja Bell to get suspended.

Without a doubt.

But that's the fans, I can't see Duncan saying the shit to the press that Amare did.

[Scumbag]

Raja Bell is a dirt bag motherfucking pussy who acts hard on a basketball court. He's a complete bitch.


I find that funny when someone calls a 6'5 210lb professional athlete a pussy over the internet. :ihit

[coachmac87]

all this is going to do is get raja bell not bruce bowen suspended...i dont think the league is going to do anything to bowen...but if they do its unfair how he gets punishment and bell who throws an elbow to manus grill in game 1...not sure how that didnt make it through the media and became a story...maybe this could be the deciding factor in the series whos "dirty defensive stopper" gets punished

[ALVAREZ6]

Good Job STAT. You're just doing what you're supposed to do and telling it like it is. The Spurs are old, dirty and boring. The Suns are young, clean and exciting. Not as good as the Mavs, nobody can touch Dallas, except for the Warriors + 3 blind, bribed mice, but good job Amare. Tim Duncan is an overrated fluke and his nickname should be STAB -- Standing Tall and Boring.

The Dallas Mavericks. The best team. The best fans:

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/uploads/david_drunk2.jpg

Aguirre, Wrath of God:

http://www.nba.com/media/history/dal_uni_02.jpg

is this fuckface serious??? :rolleyes

[Scumbag]

Without a doubt.

But that's the fans, I can't see Duncan saying the shit to the press that Amare did.


That would require a personality. :nerd

[TxJudsonRocketTx]

This is what this fucking bitch is crying about
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU

[Lady M]

ok and what can he say about hard foul on Tony. the 4th foul he fall

[DarrinS]

This really doesn't help Amare's reputation as a giant pussy, does it?

[MavericksDynasty]

all this is going to do is get raja bell not bruce bowen suspended...i dont think the league is going to do anything to bowen...but if they do its unfair how he gets punishment and bell who throws an elbow to manus grill in game 1...not sure how that didnt make it through the media and became a story...maybe this could be the deciding factor in the series whos "dirty defensive stopper" gets punished

Raja and Bruce are both flukes. We didn't need Raja anymore so we let him go. And Bruce Bowen isn't good enough to play on Dallas. Good job Donnie Nelson on not picking up Bowen when he was available -- you're just doing what you're supposed to do and exercising good judgment when it comes to assembling a roster. People hate me on this board because I don't worship the Seattle Sonics .

[ALVAREZ6]

I find that funny when someone calls a 6'5 210lb professional athlete a pussy over the internet. :ihithttp://bani.anime.net/o_rly.jpg


I'm glad I brought you laughter

[Scumbag]

is this fuckface serious??? :rolleyes


You are Barbara Bush, you know... tough guuuyy! :pctoss

[TxJudsonRocketTx]

Give me a fucking break, watching that in real time theres no way Bruce could have fucking reacted that fast without looking down and still put his foot in the right place, this is fucking pathetic Amare and the fucking Suns fans are such jokes

[leemajors]

That would require a personality. :nerd

or a much lower IQ.

[Kermit]

amare just joined the "biggest pussies on earth" super-hero team. congrats. he is hearby dubbed smelly vag.

[Scumbag]

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I'm glad I brought you laughter


There needs to be a Smilie that shows a little kid so we dont have to type it and be so obvious.

[MavericksDynasty]

is this fuckface serious??? :rolleyes

I wish the Spurs were serious about filling that hole at the 2-guard spot. You could really use a good one against Phoenix. I have to say, in all fairness, I give a slight edge to Manu over Rolando Blackman, former Mavs great, but then again, Rolando is 47 years old. It's a tossup for sure, but if you put me on the spot, I would grudgingly take Manu over Blackman for tonight's game. Or I might not, again, between the two, it's a close call. Of course, in his prime, Blackman would've destroyed Manu.


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/492934811_dce333b6d9_o.jpg

Mavs > Spurs.

[powerpower]

wow amare calls bowen and manu dirty .........just can't wait till game 3
wow

[Scumbag]

We can only hope Parker get the Kobe treatment of last year. You guys wont get mad about it. Only pussies do that.


BTW, looking at that spurs lineup, I don't really think they are wanting this thing to turn into a boxing match.

[SpursWoman]

Raja and Bruce are both flukes. We didn't need Raja anymore so we let him go. And Bruce Bowen isn't good enough to play on Dallas. Good job Donnie Nelson on not picking up Bowen when he was available -- you're just doing what you're supposed to do and exercising good judgment when it comes to assembling a roster. People hate me on this board because I don't worship the Seattle Sonics .

Yes, because on this board, we are all Seattle Sonics Worshippers. It won't be long until you're banned for having such a different view.

[Scumbag]

All hail the Seattle Sonics!

[ALVAREZ6]

I wish the Spurs were serious about filling that hole at the 2-guard spot. You could really use a good one against Phoenix. I have to say, in all fairness, I give a slight edge to Manu over Rolando Blackman, former Mavs great, but then again, Rolando is 47 years old. It's a tossup for sure, but if you put me on the spot, I would grudgingly take Manu over Blackman for tonight's game. Or I might not, again, between the two, it's a close call. Of course, in his prime, Blackman would've destroyed Manu.




Mavs > Spurs.I wish the Mavs were serious about not tying the noose so tightly. They could really have waken up and slipped their heads out before they jumped and choked against Golden State. I have to say, the Mavs are no strangers to choking, they really did last year as well, and to this day have zero championships. I give a slight edge to the Mavericks because they are extremely dominant in the regular season when it matters the most, but when it comes to the playoffs they don't know what to do. It's a tossup for sure, but if you put me on the spot, I might actually take the Spurs over the Mavs. Of course, in their prime, the Spurs would've destroyed Dallas.


Spurs > Mavs.

[MavericksDynasty]

Yes, because on this board, we are all Seattle Sonics Worshippers. It won't be long until you're banned for having such a different view.

Please, can we get back to talking basketball and away from personal attacks? I can't help it if all my predictions come true and I end up looking smarter in the end.

[shelshor]

Amare should really learn to not say much to the press. He always ends up sounding stupid when he talks to the press. Doesn't he realize what a pussy this makes him sound like?
As dumb as Amare is, how can he sound anything but stupid?

[mabber]

Please, can we get back to talking basketball and away from personal attacks? I can't help it if all my predictions come true and I end up looking smarter in the end.

I don't think some people realize your doing a SpursDynasty impression :lol

[Solid D]

Karl's Jr. Home of the other kind of "Whopper"!

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070503/capt.fd5f04d16a794750a7a65a73774bf38f.nuggets_spur s_basketball_txeg120.jpg
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[MavericksDynasty]

I wish the Mavs were serious about not tying the noose so tightly. They could really have waken up and slipped their heads out before they jumped and choked against Golden State. I have to say, the Mavs are no strangers to choking, they really did last year as well, and to this day have zero championships. I give a slight edge to the Mavericks because they are extremely dominant in the regular season when it matters the most, but when it comes to the playoffs they don't know what to do. It's a tossup for sure, but if you put me on the spot, I might actually take the Spurs over the Mavs. Of course, in their prime, the Spurs would've destroyed Dallas.


Spurs > Mavs.

The Warriors and the referees did what the Spurs could not. Dampier and Diop own Duncan, who is an overrated fluke. The Spurs three titles were flukes because the first time it was half a season and the Spurs got all the calls against the Knicks, and then the second time the League was tired of the Lakers dominating so the refs screwed them against the Spurs. Same thing when you guys "beat" the Pistons. The Mavericks own you since we sent you fishing last year and we took the season series 3-1.

[PM5K]

Yes, we aren't soft anymore!

[DarrinS]

We can only hope Parker get the Kobe treatment of last year. You guys wont get mad about it. Only pussies do that.


BTW, looking at that spurs lineup, I don't really think they are wanting this thing to turn into a boxing match.


No kidding. That Canadian point guard is quite intimidating. :lol


That hard foul that Raja gave Manu in game one is 100 times worse than getting grazed by Bruce's toe. But Manu's not a big puss, so he didn't make a stink over it. In fact, Manu gets HAMMERED and usually just gets back up and brushes himself off.


Amare just made the NBA All-Puss team

Amare
Dirk
Vince Carter
Ray Allen

[Scumbag]

As dumb as Amare is, how can he sound anything but stupid?


ZIIIIING! :elephant

[powerpower]

No kidding. That Canadian point guard is quite intimidating. :lol


That hard foul that Raja gave Manu in game one is 100 times worse than getting grazed by Bruce's toe. But Manu's not a big puss, so he didn't make a stink over it. In fact, Manu gets HAMMERED and usually just gets back up and brushes himself off.


Amare just made the NBA All-Puss team

Amare
Dirk
Vince Carter
Ray Allen



EXCELENT ANALYSIS!!!!

[mabber]

No kidding. That Canadian point guard is quite intimidating. :lol


That hard foul that Raja gave Manu in game one is 100 times worse than getting grazed by Bruce's toe. But Manu's not a big puss, so he didn't make a stink over it. In fact, Manu gets HAMMERED and usually just gets back up and brushes himself off.


Amare just made the NBA All-Puss team

Amare
Dirk
Vince Carter
Ray Allen

Dirk may choke from time to time but he ain't no pussy.

[PM5K]

But for the record, Manu holding his legs wasn't a dirty move it was a smart move, whenever a player fouls someone who has a dunk opportunity it's always a smart move, this was much the same because Manu had no other way of stopping Amare because he was on the floor, it's not his fault the ref didn't see it...

[Scumbag]

That hard foul that Raja gave Manu in game one is 100 times worse than getting grazed by Bruce's toe. But Manu's not a big puss, so he didn't make a stink over it. In fact, Manu gets HAMMERED and usually just gets back up and brushes himself off.

Totally, when I think of tough, I think of Manu! :ihit



Amare
Dirk
Vince Carter
Ray Allen

Hmm, 3 of those guys called Bowen out... Going going! Gone! Yup, hes a HOMER! :clap

[gaKNOW!blee]

haha bruce doesnt look dirty to me, he's got plenty of BLING!

[Jimcs50]

Raja Bell is a dirt bag motherfucking pussy who acts hard on a basketball court. He's a complete bitch.

Yeah and I wish the Spurs never let him go.

[Quiet Strength]

I understand Amare being mad because where bowen kicked him and no player really wants to be injured but to call bowen and manu dirty?? Come on now stop bitching and just play the game. The spurs now have soft and dirty players who are boring to watch. Well dallas is an exciting team and where are they?? Spurs play their own style and get the wins.. thats all that matters.

[DarrinS]

Totally, when I think of tough, I think of Manu! :ihit



Hmm, 3 of those guys called Bowen out... Going going! Gone! Yup, hes a HOMER! :clap


Interesting that Bowen was voted best defender in a players poll. I didn't see the poll results for dirtiest player.

[mabber]

But for the record, Manu holding his legs wasn't a dirty move it was a smart move, whenever a player fouls someone who has a dunk opportunity it's always a smart move, this was much the same because Manu had no other way of stopping Amare because he was on the floor, it's not his fault the ref didn't see it...

I agree. As long as you're not trying to hurt someone anything you can get away with is fair game in my book.

[Jimcs50]

Interesting that Bowen was voted best defender in a players poll. I didn't see the poll results for dirtiest player.

He is our dirty player, so I do not get a rat's ass.

[dimsah]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU

Zapruder film?

[Nashfan]

every team has a dirty team moment....the suns have raja bell...he gave kobe the rock bottom last year!!!!


Yes, and he was suspended for his actions, which was the correct thing to do.

[Scumbag]

EXCELENT ANALYSIS!!!!



So let me get this strait... Kicking someone is the same thing as a hard foul?

Every fan I have talked to, regardless of what team, all agree that swipe was not a natural move. It really is amazing how some of you Spurs fans see something entirely different just because its your team. :downspin:


Woooow! Nooooow I get that looking through stained glass reference!

[powerpower]

HAS anyone besides Stoudemire, called manu dirty ??????????????????

[Phenomanul]

I agree. As long as you're not trying to hurt someone anything you can get away with is fair game in my book.


Not to mention it was Amare's hard pick which sent Ginobili to the floor.



Such a desperation move by the Suns organization.

[FromWayDowntown]

Yes, and he was suspended for his actions, which was the correct thing to do.

And for all of the yapping about Bowen, that's one thing that he and Raja don't have in common. Of the two, only Raja has ever been suspended for something done to another player. Like I said elsewhere today, compare the league's disciplinary history with Bowen and the same history with Bell, and then tell me who the dirty player is. It's not like the league is going to go out of its way to protect Bowen -- a guy who defends the marquee players in the league night-after-night.

And, again, I still wonder why the Spurs are being called the crybabies in this series.

[Nashfan]

Makes him sound like a little girl. However, I think if it were the other way around, we'd be complaining as well and wanting someone like Raja Bell to get suspended.


I agree with your last sentence. If it was Duncan that this was happening to you don't think he would say something and be upset by Bowen and Manu's actions?

[cornbread]

In other news, Amare Stoudemire needs a new box of tampons.

[FromWayDowntown]

I agree with your last sentence. If it was Duncan that this was happening to you don't think he would say something and be upset by Bowen and Manu's actions?

He might be upset, but I don't think he'd express his frustrations to the meida. He's only done that once that I can recall, and that was the Joey Crawford situation, which warranted some explanation.

Like Pop -- and apparently, unlike the Phoenix Suns franchise -- Duncan doesn't take his gripes with players or officials to the media.

[DarrinS]

So let me get this strait... Kicking someone is the same thing as a hard foul?

Every fan I have talked to, regardless of what team, all agree that swipe was not a natural move. It really is amazing how some of you Spurs fans see something entirely different just because its your team. :downspin:


Woooow! Nooooow I get that looking through stained glass reference!


:sleep

[4lifecowboy]

Personally I think Stodemire saw this posted on the internet and is trying to capitolize on it. If he felt that strongly that Bowen had did something why didn't he mention it in the post game press coverage?

[Nashfan]

That would require a personality. :nerd


:lmao

[mardigan]

It really is amazing how some of you Spurs fans see something entirely different just because its your team.
It amazes me what a little whiney bitch Black Jesus is

[Nashfan]

This really doesn't help Amare's reputation as a giant pussy, does it?


I think you guy's have the biggest one in Duncan who complains to the refs constantly on every foul that is called on him or a team mate.

[FromWayDowntown]

I think you guy's have the biggest one in Duncan who complains to the refs constantly on every foul that is called on him or a team mate.

Sure. And the Suns players never complain on the floor after every call -- or if they do, it's a deeply principled complaint, I guess.

[da_suns_fan__]

Bell was suspended....so why shouldn't Bowen?

[sammy]

What a bunch of jackasses! They are really desperate and apparently know they are going to lose this series why else would this dumbass idiot make that bogus allegation!

[Shelly]

It amazes me what a little whiney bitch Black Jesus is

I've always wondered if I was reading that tattoo correctly...

[powerpower]

Bell was suspended....so why shouldn't Bowen?



oooo pleaseeeeeeeeee :dizzy

[Amare_32]

Why do any fans really get wrapped up in this? We see this every year in the playoffs when teams try to work the officials before games. The Spurs did it last year with Dallas or have don't they remember the Terry suspension?

[coachmac87]

he swings his god damn foot under the guy!!!!....amare may be a pussy whinning about this...but if raja bell did this to manu or something we would be all over this!! u cannot tell me that the second leg is a quite out there...bruce got lucky amare kept his balance and there was no foul...


its ok to have a dirty player spurs fans...lets face it bruce bowen is a dirty player...and for all the people sayin his head was not looking down at the floor...its called eyeballs!!! and the camera was from the back...lets see that video form other angels and see what happens...

spurs and bruce bowen got lucky amare didnt get hurt...or that a foul was not called on the play giving the oppurtunity to look more at the play

[DarrinS]

I noticed in the video that Bruce leans back and raises his arms to inflict

:rolleyes MAXIMUM DAMAGE :rolleyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU

[LEONARD]

magnifine glass

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Funniest shit I've read all day...even better than all the XXXXXDynasty profiles popping up :lol

[cornbread]

I think you guy's have the biggest one in Duncan who complains to the refs constantly on every foul that is called on him or a team mate.
And the Suns coach poops his pants anytime a whistle is blown. Big fuckin deal.

[DarrinS]

Why do any fans really get wrapped up in this? We see this every year in the playoffs when teams try to work the officials before games. The Spurs did it last year with Dallas or have don't they remember the Terry suspension?


Are you actually comparing this to getting punched in the nads? Are you a chick?

[clambake]

He said it so the refs will take a closer look during the next game. I don't mind the leg grabbing stuff, but Bowen has a tendency to go after ankles. Always has.

[FromWayDowntown]

Why do any fans really get wrapped up in this? We see this every year in the playoffs when teams try to work the officials before games. The Spurs did it last year with Dallas or have don't they remember the Terry suspension?

The Spurs didn't work the officials on the Terry suspension. They submitted tape to the league, but Spurs players and coaches weren't screaming out in the media that Terry was a thug or anything like that.

The most ridiculous part of this entire thing is the notion that NBA officials can somehow be influenced by things that are said in the media. I know it happens, but there's no way that it should.

[coachmac87]

o and bs how people were saying its hard to stop running full speed..LOOK AT THE VIDEO HE TAKES ONLY TWO STEPS...YOU CANT BE GOING FULL SPEED WHILE ONLY TAKING TWO STEPS!!

[Nashfan]

He might be upset, but I don't think he'd express his frustrations to the meida. He's only done that once that I can recall, and that was the Joey Crawford situation, which warranted some explanation.

Like Pop -- and apparently, unlike the Phoenix Suns franchise -- Duncan doesn't take his gripes with players or officials to the media.


No, he just cries in every game to the refs.

[mabber]

Are you actually comparing this to getting punched in the nads? Are you a chick?

It was more of a gentle jab to the nutsack :lol

[DarrinS]

I'm starting to think the Patterson Bigfoot footage is more convincing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJIMbBcZgwc

[kps0001]

I am not gonna get into whether it was intentional, Bowen is dirty, or whatever. Lord there is already about 5,345 threads on that already.

What I will comment on is the Suns fans "crying" about the play in question. My thoughts are we now have our superstar back and healthy after a loooong time of wondering if Amare would even be close to the same after the microfracture suregy. I think the fans are still in this "coddle Amare mode" hence the uproar.

If Bowen did this to say James Jones or someone I don't think it is an issue.

To call Amare a pussy is pretty amusing and desperate though.

[PhxDog]

Amare Stoudemire is an All-NBA First Teamer--he can say what he likes. :lol

[Amare_32]

Are you actually comparing this to getting punched in the nads? Are you a chick?

I am just saying that all this is just teams trying to get any advantage in the playoffs. If Terry had not been suspended for the 1 game whose to say if the Spurs would have won that game? Game 3 will be very interesting although I expect the Spurs to win that game.

[Nashfan]

It amazes me what a little whiney bitch Black Jesus is


How can that amaze you when you have a few on your own team that you see every time they play?

[FromWayDowntown]

More commendable to take it to the media AND do it on the court, I guess, than to just do it on the court.

[mardigan]

How can that amaze you when you have a few on your own team that you see every time they play?
Because they leave their whining on the court

[DarrinS]

I am just saying that all this is just teams trying to get any advantage in the playoffs. If Terry had not been suspended for the 1 game whose to say if the Spurs would have won that game? Game 3 will be very interesting although I expect the Spurs to win that game.


Then Amare should have their front office send in the video for review. He shouldn't make statements to the media. It's just dumb on his part. How fired up do you think the Spurs will be now?

[conversekid]

Amare Stoudemire is an All-NBA First Teamer--he can say what he likes. :lol

amare would be just another guy with hops if it wasn't for nash ... :rolleyes

[Nashfan]

And the Suns coach poops his pants anytime a whistle is blown. Big fuckin deal.


I think your coach probably invented that himself, since he always works the officials.

[Amare_32]

How can that amaze you when you have a few on your own team that you see every time they play?

Lets be fair there are alot of players besides the Spurs that have yet to commit thier first foul.

[PhxDog]

Like Pop -- and apparently, unlike the Phoenix Suns franchise -- Duncan doesn't take his gripes with players or officials to the media.
Of course not. Pop and Duncan don't want to tip off the retaliation before it happens.

Good thing for you guys the Suns have Utah to worry about.

[Amarelooms]

Why suspend Bruce Bowen? He sucks...the Suns want him to play.

[Amare_32]

Then Amare should have their front office send in the video for review. He shouldn't make statements to the media. It's just dumb on his part. How fired up do you think the Spurs will be now?


I agree with that.

[conversekid]

manu grabbing amare was clearly a foul... but dirty? what a pu$$y ... go do some pushups to bump your testosterone.

[GrandeDavid]

Without a doubt.

But that's the fans, I can't see Duncan saying the shit to the press that Amare did.

Exactly, mabber. Duncan and his teammates following his lead would keep their traps shut and let their games do the talking.

[coachmac87]

amare would be just another guy with hops if it wasn't for nash ... :rolleyes


o ya like he did not dominate with marbury his rookie year?? he out did the great china man yao ming with out steve nash...if amare did not get hurt..he would be best top 3 big men playing as we speak

[mardigan]

I think your coach probably invented that himself, since he always works the officials.
You trying to compare the two coaches sideline demeanor is probably one of the most idiotic comparisons Ive ever heard of

[DarrinS]

Why suspend Bruce Bowen? He sucks...the Suns want him to play.


http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/bowen-foul.png

[saporvida]

Bell was suspended....so why shouldn't Bowen?

shit i remember seeing bell on the court in game2... or was i trippin?

[GrandeDavid]

Bruce is getting old now and probably nearing retirement. I'd like to see him let rip a criticism of Amare and the other hypocritical whiners. But on the other hand, I appreciate Bruce's embodiment of Spurs professionalism in letting the sobs go in one ear and out the other.

[Nashfan]

Then Amare should have their front office send in the video for review. He shouldn't make statements to the media. It's just dumb on his part. How fired up do you think the Spurs will be now?


They are sending in a tape to the league is what I heard.

[coachmac87]

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/bowen-foul.png

why do u have a picture of bowen hacking dirk??

[PhxDog]

amare would be just another guy with hops if it wasn't for nash ... :rolleyes
Sure, and Gregg Popovich would be just another career assistant coach if it weren't for Tim Duncan...

[Amarelooms]

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/bowen-foul.png

Yep another good defesive play...guess hand across the wrist not a foul lol :elephant

[coachmac87]

Sure, and Gregg Popovich would be just another career assistant coach if it weren't for Tim Duncan...


more like just a GM

[bobbyjoe]

I'm sorry but that was a filthy, disgusting play.

It's one thing to elbow a man to his face like Karl Malone used to (still dirty) but the dirty undercutting that Bowen does just shows what a complete coward he is.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU

If anyone thinks this isn't a clearly intentional kick, it's just denial.

Bowen is a disgrace to the NBA. Why the need to resort to stepping underneath players and blatantly try to injure their ankles, knees, and feet?

We've seen this with Jamal Crawford.
Vince Carter.
Ray Allen.
Amare Stoudemire.
Steve Francis.
Etc

If this happens once, fine. But the 10th-20th times is not a freaking accident.

[GrandeDavid]

Yeah and I wish the Spurs never let him go.

Hindsight is 20/20. Bell evidently sucked at the time and the Spurs probably didn't want to waste time developing him. NOW I might like the Spurs to have him, sure.

Maybe Miami would still like to have Bruce, or the Lakers Horry. I see what you mean, Jim, but it was so long ago.

[Nashfan]

Exactly, mabber. Duncan and his teammates following his lead would keep their traps shut and let their games do the talking.


You mean like every game where they are always working the refs?

[coachmac87]

for real man...u can atleast put up the billups block or a kobe braynt block..but a hack??? cmon man

[PhxDog]

more like just a GM
An ex-GM, you mean. He would have been fired from that job a long time ago.

[coachmac87]

ya ur right...where would barbosa be without pop??

[DarrinS]

You mean like every game where they are always working the refs?


You know, if Amare had half the guts of Steve Nash, the Suns might have won something by now.

[Nashfan]

You trying to compare the two coaches sideline demeanor is probably one of the most idiotic comparisons Ive ever heard of


Whatever helps you sleep at night. Take off your rose colored glasses.

[conversekid]

Come on... this is so lame. the league will look at it and personally call dantoni and say... dude... you're a pu$$y.

[GrandeDavid]

How about Leandrinho undercutting Tony. I know Leandrinho is going to Tony's wedding this summer, so for the life of me I will assume he did not purposefully try to harm him. But it was a dumb move that could have hurt Tony badly.

But staying on topic, I'm thinking Bruce was just trying to tap Amare's achilles to make sure it was nice and firm and not in need of surgical repair. Just a friendly little tap. :P

[sammy]

The Warriors and the referees did what the Spurs could not. Dampier and Diop own Duncan, who is an overrated fluke. The Spurs three titles were flukes because the first time it was half a season and the Spurs got all the calls against the Knicks, and then the second time the League was tired of the Lakers dominating so the refs screwed them against the Spurs. Same thing when you guys "beat" the Pistons. The Mavericks own you since we sent you fishing last year and we took the season series 3-1.


Dumbass that series went to 7 games! Tim Duncan has 40+ points and it went down to the wire! You didn't win easy and with a few calls that went Dallas' way is why they went to the Finals! You have nothing to be proud of as your team choked to an old-ass Miami Heat! However, since your team choked twice, you can have your Conference Championship banners as we will enjoy another Championship while your team went fishing by a number 8 seed Golden State and can only watch us win yet again! :clap

[bobbyjoe]

Yes, we aren't soft anymore!

You think Bowen sliding under people to try to hurt their ankles and knees is "hard"?

LOL.

There arent many more cowardly, soft acts on a bball court than undercutting a player or kicking them when their back is turned to you.

If Bruce was a man, he wouldnt kick a Ray Allen on the ground with his back to him or kick Amare in the back of his achillles with his back turned to him. He'd pop them in the mouth.

These acts just show what a lame pussy Bowen is.

[Amare_32]

All good defensive players are little dirty. They are allowed to be a little dirty based on reputation. Maybe is wrong but thats how it is. Just play ball.

Ron Artest
Bruce Bowen
James Posey (fan favorite in Chicago)
Raja Bell

[Nashfan]

You know, if Amare had half the guts of Steve Nash, the Suns might have won something by now.


He is only 24 years old and he was injured last year. I don't think Amare lacks any toughness, don't know where you get that.

[saporvida]

he swings his god damn foot under the guy!!!!....amare may be a pussy whinning about this...but if raja bell did this to manu or something we would be all over this!! u cannot tell me that the second leg is a quite out there...bruce got lucky amare kept his balance and there was no foul...


its ok to have a dirty player spurs fans...lets face it bruce bowen is a dirty player...and for all the people sayin his head was not looking down at the floor...its called eyeballs!!! and the camera was from the back...lets see that video form other angels and see what happens...

spurs and bruce bowen got lucky amare didnt get hurt...or that a foul was not called on the play giving the oppurtunity to look more at the play

i'm not even going to take you seriously... i'd like to believe bowen didn't try to intentionally hurt amare and i'm sticking to it.

and until we see those other "angels" come flying down from the sky with their cameras so we can see some different angles then who's to say what really happened? oh wait i forgot we had all these fans with no coach, player, or ref experience to give their credible opinion.

[conversekid]

You mean like every game where they are always working the refs?

all players all coaches work the refs - although not all act like 5 year olds the way way dantoni does... but the spurs don't call them out after the game...

[mardigan]

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Take off your rose colored glasses.
Ol Mike is by far the whiniest coach I have ever seen on the sidelines. I dont need any glasses to see that

[bobbyjoe]

Would it be funny if someone did it to Manu or Tony and knocked them out for the year?

[coachmac87]

We've seen this with Jamal Crawford.
Vince Carter.
Ray Allen.
Amare Stoudemire.
Steve Francis.
Etc

what can we spurs fans say about that... i kno damn well everyone knows about these..but every team has a dirty moment

[bobbyjoe]

i'm not even going to take you seriously... i'd like to believe bowen didn't try to intentionally hurt amare and i'm sticking to it.

and until we see those other "angels" come flying down from the sky with their cameras so we can see some different angles then who's to say what really happened? oh wait i forgot we had all these fans with no coach, player, or ref experience to give their credible opinion.

Right, and in Iraq they still think they won GWI.

Some fans on here would think it was unintentional even if Bowen came out and admitted it was on purpose.

How can anyone look at that video and see it as anything but an intentional kick? You gotta be kidding.

[Nashfan]

all players all coaches work the refs - although not all act like 5 year olds the way way dantoni does... but the spurs don't call them out after the game...


I think you need to watch your coach and your players a little more. I don't think our coach calls anyone out after games. During games, yes he gets mad but he didn't use to and now he has decided to show some fire. It seems to work for Pop.

[coachmac87]

i'm not even going to take you seriously... i'd like to believe bowen didn't try to intentionally hurt amare and i'm sticking to it.

and until we see those other "angels" come flying down from the sky with their cameras so we can see some different angles then who's to say what really happened? oh wait i forgot we had all these fans with no coach, player, or ref experience to give their credible opinion.


the press on the sidelines??? im sure somebody has a shot of bowens face...

Jamal Crawford.
Vince Carter.
Ray Allen.
Amare Stoudemire.
Steve Francis.
Etc
those all have one thing in common..bruce bowen stickin the leg out

[duncan228]

The more I learn about the teams we play in the playoffs, the more respect I gain for the Spurs.

No player on the Spurs would ever say anything like this to the press. If they wanted to I assume Pop and Duncan would stop it. It's classless. Send the fucking tape to the league if you feel you've got an issue. Going to the press is ego filling, nothing else.

Play the ref card, raise attention to yourself. Do whatever helps you feel better.
At the end of the day good luck looking yourself in the mirror.

It's bullshit. Period. I like Amare's game, he makes me say wow with his athletic abilities. But damn, just play the game. Let the FO and the league deal with this kind of stuff. Keep your mouth shut. You look better when you do.

Another lesson he could well use to learn from Duncan.

[PhxDog]

Would it be funny if someone did it to Manu or Tony and knocked them out for the year?

Only Tony, sorry.

[powerpower]

suns' coach saying that suns are more talented than the spurs and now Stoudemire saying that bruce and manu are DIRTY .....stupid move!(I hope that the spurs CRASH suns in games 3-5)

[coachmac87]

ya thats what i thought...pop aint such a bad gm afterall

[DarrinS]

Yep another good defesive play...guess hand across the wrist not a foul lol :elephant


Clean block.

[conversekid]

We've seen this with Jamal Crawford.
Vince Carter.
Ray Allen.
Amare Stoudemire.
Steve Francis.
Etc

what can we spurs fans say about that... i kno damn well everyone knows about these..but every team has a dirty moment

go back and milk on your mommy you wuss.

[bobbyjoe]

We've seen this with Jamal Crawford.
Vince Carter.
Ray Allen.
Amare Stoudemire.
Steve Francis.
Etc

what can we spurs fans say about that... i kno damn well everyone knows about these..but every team has a dirty moment

No one is bashing the Spurs or calling them dirty. As a whole, the Spurs are absolutely not dirty. It's just Bruce Bowen. One player out of 12. But MAN is he dirty. Not the Karl Malone, Stockon type, but just DIRTY DIRTY basketball of an uglier sort.

But you cant call it just a moment with Bowen. Its a career.

[Nashfan]

Ol Mike is by far the whiniest coach I have ever seen on the sidelines. I dont need any glasses to see that


Guess you don't watch many games then do you? Especially your own team, either that or your blind.

[mardigan]

I think you need to watch your coach and your players a little more. I don't think our coach calls anyone out after games. During games, yes he gets mad but he didn't use to and now he has decided to show some fire. It seems to work for Pop.
I love when idiot fans from another team tell Spur fans to watch more Spurs basketball. :lol According to you Mike isnt whiny so that pretty much discredits anything else you have to add

[PhxDog]

Play the ref card, raise attention to yourself. Do whatever helps you feel better.
At the end of the day good luck looking yourself in the mirror.
Yeah, save that crap for the regular season. :lol

[coachmac87]

Clean block.


ya it would have been clean if he was on the other side.....no sir i clearly see body contact..u must not play basketball...that is a foul

[saporvida]

Right, and in Iraq they still think they won GWI.

Some fans on here would think it was unintentional even if Bowen came out and admitted it was on purpose.

How can anyone look at that video and see it as anything but an intentional kick? You gotta be kidding.

whatever... i saw that vid yall posted and it's freakin shitty ass quality.

ok i won't believe it until someone other then some dumbass with a camera filming his tv set directly rips the source to their computer and uploads that shit in hd!

you can't tell me you know what's in a player's mind when they do anything on and off the court, so don't try. that's why big wig sport analysts get paid the big bucks and the rest of us just try to get by.

[DarrinS]

I think this is most bitching i've ever heard from a team that just blew us out by 20 pts. WTF?


You only know Nash is taking Amare aside and saying, "Hey man, what are you doing. Shut the fuck up already."

[conversekid]

Time for a hard fould on Nash when he goes to the lane. It will be unfortunate if it cracks his nose.

[PhxDog]

you can't tell me you know what's in a player's mind when they do anything on and off the court, so don't try. that's why big wig sport analysts get paid the big bucks and the rest of us just try to get by.
Lots of comedy at SpursTalk today, but this is the funniest one so far.

[DarrinS]

ya it would have been clean if he was on the other side.....no sir i clearly see body contact..u must not play basketball...that is a foul


You need to read the NBA rulebook. No foul was called on that play.

[Nashfan]

I love when idiot fans from another team tell Spur fans to watch more Spurs basketball. :lol According to you Mike isnt whiny so that pretty much discredits anything else you have to add


Never said he doesn't complain, just that your coach does plenty of that himself. Suns coach use to just roll his eyes at bad calls but this year he is complaining. Maybe he learned something from Pop. :)

[saporvida]

ya it would have been clean if he was on the other side.....no sir i clearly see body contact..u must not play basketball...that is a foul

i love how your a spurs fan and yet every thread ive seen you in has you bitchin about the spurs... go back to dallas bitch.

[saporvida]

Lots of comedy at SpursTalk today, but this is the funniest one so far.

i still think the funniest is all these fans for other teams using a SPURS forum. gotta love the SPURS!

[Nashfan]

he swings his god damn foot under the guy!!!!....amare may be a pussy whinning about this...but if raja bell did this to manu or something we would be all over this!! u cannot tell me that the second leg is a quite out there...bruce got lucky amare kept his balance and there was no foul...


its ok to have a dirty player spurs fans...lets face it bruce bowen is a dirty player...and for all the people sayin his head was not looking down at the floor...its called eyeballs!!! and the camera was from the back...lets see that video form other angels and see what happens...

spurs and bruce bowen got lucky amare didnt get hurt...or that a foul was not called on the play giving the oppurtunity to look more at the play



:clap Finally a Spurs fan that gets it.

[Amare_32]

I think this is most bitching i've ever heard from a team that just blew us out by 20 pts. WTF?


You only know Nash is taking Amare aside and saying, "Hey man, what are you doing. Shut the fuck up already."

He should have kept his mouth shut period. They just blew the Spurs out of the gym. The Spurs already had Game 2 as motivation going to Game 3 now this.

[DarrinS]

He is only 24 years old and he was injured last year. I don't think Amare lacks any toughness, don't know where you get that.


By watching him "defend" Tim Duncan and by listing to the shit that comes out of his mouth.

[Nashfan]

How about Leandrinho undercutting Tony. I know Leandrinho is going to Tony's wedding this summer, so for the life of me I will assume he did not purposefully try to harm him. But it was a dumb move that could have hurt Tony badly.

But staying on topic, I'm thinking Bruce was just trying to tap Amare's achilles to make sure it was nice and firm and not in need of surgical repair. Just a friendly little tap. :P


It's one thing to accidently do something, but to intentionally do what Bowen does is another.

[mardigan]

:clap Finally a Spurs fan that gets it.
hes not a Spur fan, dont get to excited because one of the village idiots agrees with you :lol

[bobbyjoe]

He shouldnt have called the entire team dirty, but in no way does he deserve to be criticized for complaining about Bowen's bushleague kick.

What Ginobili did was illegal and a clear foul, but not a dirty play. Ginobili's rep is flopping, not really dirty play.

When you become the 100th player to complain about Bruce Bowen's dirtiness, it's not just whining as much as noting the obvious however. I'm sure Jazz fans thought Malone wasnt dirty in the late 90's but 99% of neutral NBA fans did.

[judaspriestess]

:lol

So Bruce Bowen is going to risk possibly breaking his toe by kicking someone in the achilles heel and possibly run the risk of injuring himself.

If Bruce is such a dirty player, KARMA would have already gotten this guy with some kind of injury due to his dirty tactics backfiring on him. :rolleyes

[4lifecowboy]

manu grabbing amare was clearly a foul... but dirty? what a pu$$y ... go do some pushups to bump your testosterone.

Disagree I thought after he bodied Manu up, he was using his legs to keep him down though his hands was in the air thats why they didn't call the foul on Manu.

[JackArse]

ya ur right...where would barbosa be without pop??


you realize that d'antoni was the scout that picked barbosa for the spurs.

[Nashfan]

Time for a hard fould on Nash when he goes to the lane. It will be unfortunate if it cracks his nose.


All class aren't you?

[Amare_32]

So does this mean I can't show up in San Antonio for Game 3 wearing a Suns jersey? I heard the riverwalk is nice place to visit. :lol

[coachmac87]

whatever... i saw that vid yall posted and it's freakin shitty ass quality.

ok i won't believe it until someone other then some dumbass with a camera filming his tv set directly rips the source to their computer and uploads that shit in hd!

you can't tell me you know what's in a player's mind when they do anything on and off the court, so don't try. that's why big wig sport analysts get paid the big bucks and the rest of us just try to get by.

im going by the history..and bowen has a history of doing things like this..he is dirty!!!...whats wrong calling bruce bowen dirty??? nothing..people take it the wrong way..like the spurs are the angels of the league like we have never done something bad...just face it people he does innappropiate things..and its been proven..i mean seriously u really think all these players that called out bruce bowen are totally wrong for calling him out?? no...amare was wrong calling the spurs as a team dirty..but not bruce bowen..

[saporvida]

ya ur right...where would barbosa be without pop??

still on a team who hasnt won shit...

[Amarelooms]

You need to read the NBA rulebook. No foul was called on that play.

Yeah ok cause no foul was called it wasn't one :rolleyes . There are TWO fouls on that play...one where contact is made with Dirk's left shoulder and one across his left wrist. Now kindly fuck off :elephant

[Durruti]

I disagree about Ginobli. His insane flopping puts other players at risk of injury as well. Plus both Duncan AND Ginobli grabbed STAT's leg in that game. The dude is trying to come back from an injury and THREE Spurs players make a point of either grabbing or kicking his leg? Was it part of Pop's game plan to try and take STAT out? It's a good thing Amare remained stationary during those plays or his season could have been over.

But Bowen is really in a league all his own. Dirtiest player in the NBA and it's obviously rubbing off on his teammates.

Kudos to the classy Spurs fans who are acknowledging this skullduggery and demanding it stop. If I were from San Antonio I'd rather my team be remembered as a champion rather than a pack of sneaks and reprobates. Better to lose with honor than win with dirty tricks that put other players at risk.

[Nashfan]

hes not a Spur fan, dont get to excited because one of the village idiots agrees with you :lol


If he isn't a Spurs fan then why does he have them as his team? I think he is just being honest. What Raja did to Kobe was uncalled for and I thought he got what he deserved for that kind of action on another player. It is alright to not be a homer you know.

[FromWayDowntown]

Disagree I thought after he bodied Manu up, he was using his legs to keep him down though his hands was in the air thats why they didn't call the foul on Manu.

Amare didn't get a call on that play because he didn't bother to try to go get the ball. It's not a foul if it doesn't impede the play; when Amare chose not to move, Crawford did the right thing in making no call.

One irony, of course, about that play in the context of this discussion, was watching Amare complain to the official all the way back up the court, including pointing two fingers at his eyes and then to the official.

But it's really only the Spurs who whine.

[coachmac87]

hes not a Spur fan, dont get to excited because one of the village idiots agrees with you :lol

i am to a spurs fan!! but i hate it sometimes when people are so damn buyist and dont realize that even spurs players do bad things at times



ATTENTION TO ALL SPURS FANS...NOT EVERY SPUR IS A CLASSY LITTLE ANGEL LIKE WE ALL WANT THEM TO BE!!! WE LIVE IN A REAL WORLD!!!

AND FUCK U ASSHOLE... I AM TO A SPURS FAN...spurs in 5 bitches

[Nashfan]

I disagree about Ginobli. His insane flopping puts other players at risk of injury as well. Plus both Duncan AND Ginobli grabbed STAT's leg in that game. The dude is trying to come back from an injury and THREE Spurs players make a point of either grabbing or kicking his leg? Was it part of Pop's game plan to try and take STAT out? It's a good thing Amare remained stationary during those plays or his season could have been over.

But Bowen is really in a league all his own. Dirtiest player in the NBA and it's obviously rubbing off on his teammates.

Kudos to the classy Spurs fans who are acknowledging this skullduggery and demanding it stop. If I were from San Antonio I'd rather my team be remembered as a champion rather than a pack of sneaks and reprobates. Better to lose with honor than win with dirty tricks that put other players at risk.


Good post :)

[Durruti]

Time for a hard fould on Nash when he goes to the lane. It will be unfortunate if it cracks his nose.


:rolleyes

[SpursWoman]

I don't think some people realize your doing a SpursDynasty impression :lol


Or, were just playing along....I like the SunsDynasty impersonator, myself. :fro

[PhxDog]

Amare didn't get a call on that play because he didn't bother to try to go get the ball.
But if Amare does turn to try to get the ball there, Manu twists Amare's microfracture knee out of alignment...eh, whatever.

[judaspriestess]

"He was just kind of out of control," Stoudemire said. "I mean, Bruce Bowen's normally under control, but he ran directly into me. I said, 'Man, you're going to get somebody hurt out here. He was like, 'Shut up." I was like, 'Man, I'm just giving you some cautions. You're going to get somebody hurt.' But he wasn't hearing it. . . . Bruce Bowen, who's a two-time champion, should have more class than that."

What an immature punk amare is. Thank you Bruce for telling the little fucktard to shut up. A far as class, :lol yeah sure dude ok.

What was the excuse in 2005 and 2006? Its ALWAYS something with this team. d'antoni needs to show these idiots what accountability is, whoops thats like asking rush limpballs to quit taking drugs.

[coachmac87]

you realize that d'antoni was the scout that picked barbosa for the spurs.


no shit? i think ur a fuckin liar....how do u kno that??

can u prove that??

[Nashfan]

amare would be just another guy with hops if it wasn't for nash ... :rolleyes


He did well with Marbury at point guard, so this is just incorrect.

[FromWayDowntown]

But if Amare does turn to try to get the ball there, Manu twists Amare's microfracture knee out of alignment...eh, whatever.

And if that happened, Manu is ripe for a very long suspension. The point, though, is that you don't get a foul called for standing still while someone else is holding onto you. That happens all the time in the NBA, and it's never called. I realize that the play has somehow become some sort of mantra for many Suns fans to rely upon as proof that the NBA officials favor the Spurs and are out to get the telegenic Suns, but it was a correct call -- one that's made every night in every game in some form or another.

[FromWayDowntown]

But if Amare does turn to try to get the ball there, Manu twists Amare's microfracture knee out of alignment...eh, whatever.

Are you suggesting that whether or not a play is a foul should depend on the health history of the players involved?

[AZLouis]

amare would be just another guy with hops if it wasn't for nash ... :rolleyes

Amare played 2 seasons without Nash.

In his 1st season he was voted ROY.

In his 2nd season he averaged 20 ppg, 9 rpg, 1.6 bpg, and shot 47.5% from the field.

:drunk

[coachmac87]

i knew that guy was a liar

[jmard5]

Hush... sssh... no more crying now...
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7517/amarers3.jpg

[coachmac87]

Yeah someone lowers their shoulder into Manu and they are the ones that are at risk of being injured good comment genius. If you have proof that Bowen didn't intentionally then let us all know. Stop talking out of your ass!!!!!!!!!! The video doesn't show a damn thing period!!! Stop saying he was trying to hurt Amare, if there is video then I want to see it, but your stupid comments don't make sense.

About Manu grabbing Amare's leg, Amare knocked him down dumbass, he fell on his leg. Maybe you would have a point if Amare tried to move, he stood there like a 11 year old boy in front of Micheal Jackson.

ok and for people to say he did not kick amare..look at the end of the video amare limps a bit and is like wtf just happend??? did this bitch really do this?

[kps0001]

[I]

What was the excuse in 2005 and 2006? Its ALWAYS something with this team. d'antoni needs to show these idiots what accountability is, whoops thats like asking rush limpballs to quit taking drugs.

2005 you guys beat us in a great series. 2006 we were in the western conference finals against the Mavs. Where were the Spurs?

[jmard5]

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7517/amarers3.jpg
CRYBABY#4

[Amare_32]

And if that happened, Manu is ripe for a very long suspension. The point, though, is that you don't get a foul called for standing still while someone else is holding onto you. That happens all the time in the NBA, and it's never called. I realize that the play has somehow become some sort of mantra for many Suns fans to rely upon as proof that the NBA officials favor the Spurs and are out to get the telegenic Suns, but it was a correct call -- one that's made every night in every game in some form or another.

I think some fans get too carried away with this stuff. Look the NBA is not exactly thrilled with the prospect of another Spurs/Pistons Finals rematch. If anything the League will be doing cartwheels if the Suns end up eliminating the Spurs and the Pistons losing in the East Finals to either the Cavs or Nets. That series while I watched all 7 games was not exactly exciting to anyone except basketball junkies like me.

[PhxDog]

And if that happened, Manu is ripe for a very long suspension.
Why would the Suns care about that? They need to stay healthy for the next round.

And yes, when a player is wrapped around the opponent's leg JVG-style, that's a foul regardless of the players or their health history.



OK, now I'm really done.

[judaspriestess]

On ESPN - Sportscenter just now

I'm paraphrasing what he said:

"I would NOT call Bruce Bowen a dirty player due to the fact that I was also called a dirty player. Offensive players will say that because your're stopping them from doing what ever they want to do". He also said teams win with players like Bruce Bowen.

Its called DEFENSE little whiny bitches. Just STFU and play!!!!

on edit: typo :)

[coachmac87]

So he limps and you make an assumption that he was kicked? Maybe he landed awkwardly?


im pretty sure this is about a kick to the achilles not a mislanding..dont think that was the case

[Durruti]

Yeah someone lowers their shoulder into Manu and they are the ones that are at risk of being injured good comment genius.

I seem to recall Barbosa getting injured by a totally unecessary (and ridiculously exaggerated) flop by Manu. I'm sure there are other examples.

Raja's a tough guy who uses unecessary roughness; that's not the same thing as being dirty. Dirty is what wimps do who can't handle things straight up, ie the Spurs.

Anyway, I hope STAT's comments will make the refs get their heads out of their asses. If game 3 is called fairly Suns should take it.

[jmard5]

Ditto!

[NorCal510]

bowen is hella dirty

[Durruti]

On ESPN - Sportscenter just now

I'm paraphrasing:

[I]"I would NOT call Bruce Bowen a dirty player due to the fact that I was also called a dirty player.

Wow, there's logic for yah.
:lol

[Amare_32]

I seem to recall Barbosa getting injured by a totally unecessary (and ridiculously exaggerated) flop by Manu. I'm sure there are other examples.

Raja's a tough guy who uses unecessary roughness; that's not the same thing as being dirty. Dirty is what wimps do who can't handle things straight up, ie the Spurs.

Anyway, I hope STAT's comments will make the refs get their heads out of their asses. If game 3 is called fairly Suns should take it.


In the end all thats going to happen is that the Suns will split the road games. The Spurs will take Game 3 and the Suns Game 4.

[Amare_32]

Did they ask Zo how is the fishing going?

[FromWayDowntown]

I think some fans get too carried away with this stuff. Look the NBA is not exactly thrilled with the prospect of another Spurs/Pistons Finals rematch. If anything the League will be doing cartwheels if the Suns end up eliminating the Spurs and the Pistons losing in the East Finals to either the Cavs or Nets. That series while I watched all 7 games was not exactly exciting to anyone except basketball junkies like me.

What difference does any of that make? Are you suggesting that the correctness of Amare's statement -- or of Crawford's no call in Game 2 -- should somehow be judged by who these teams are and what they bring to the table for the lowest common denominator?

Again, if it's about excitement and ratings, let's just make this like the WWE or American Idol. Why not just make the competitive element of the game an illusion and leave it up to the league to decide or for fans to vote to ensure that two telegenic teams are in the Finals and nobody ever has to worry about small market, boring teams like the Spurs.

[mardigan]

Wow, there's logic for yah.
:lol
Cause you bring so much of it to the board :rolleyes

[SpursWoman]

no shit? i think ur a fuckin liar....how do u kno that??

can u prove that??


Ummm...the Spurs traded the pick to the Suns before it was made, but didn't get the paperwork or approval or whatever done in time, so the Spurs picked the Sun's choice. The Suns wanted him and the Spurs didn't want the guaranteed salary of a first rounder. That's old news...I'm not looking it up, but if you're that wound up about it Google "Barbosa 2003 draft Spurs Suns" and you should be able to find it.

[stretch]

Did they ask Zo how is the fishing going?
And how many rings does Amare and the rest of the Suns have?

[judaspriestess]

Wow, there's logic for yah.
:lol

hey moron, they both play in the NBA something neither of us do. So his logic is spot on.

[conversekid]

Did they ask Zo how is the fishing going?

Zoe = One Ring
Suns = Zero Rings

Wait until you win something to bring smack.

[raedd]

i guess u spurs fans can't get enough of suckin bowen dry?

the spurs are a dirty team, trying to sacrafice a worthless POS for a GREAT player. pop is an ugly dirty POS; just look at his face. :spless:

spurs fans are such unclassy f@gs, like their players

[nkdlunch]

hey moron, they both play in the NBA something neither of us do. So his logic is spot on.

That plus he's a champion, a great defensive player, an allstar, a proven good guy, and a veteran.

what a bout the suns fan? oh that's right, he's a nobody

[dimsah]

What a delightful thread.




:td

[FromWayDowntown]

i guess u spurs fans can't get enough of suckin bowen dry?

the spurs are a dirty team, trying to sacrafice a worthless POS for a GREAT player. pop is an ugly dirty POS; just look at his face. :spless:

spurs fans are such unclassy f@gs, like their players

You're the best.

[Durruti]

What FLop by Manu? please elborate instead of another retarded assumption.

Of course I hope the refs get their head's out of their asses because they are definitely giving all the calls to the Spurs it's so obvious.

Maybe if your team wasn't so pathetic you would be up 2-0 instead of down 0-2!

Here ya go:

Barbosa out 2-3 weeks after Ginobili fell into his knee
ESPN.com news services

Phoenix Suns guard Leandro Barbosa could miss up to three weeks with an injury to his left knee.

Barbosa has Grade 2 sprain of the medial collateral ligament in his left knee and is out two to three weeks, the team said Monday.

But while the diagnosis received a sigh of relief from the team, it offered little solace for Barbosa who believes the injury could have been avoided.

He was injured Saturday when Spurs guard Manu Ginobili fell into him. He did return to play in the second half of that game.

"Ginobili always likes to flop," Barbosa told The Arizona Republic. "Nobody even touched him.

"He jost flopped. That's why I feel sad to hurt myself like that," he added. "I wish I could have hurt myself in another way."

Suns coach Mike D'Antoni told the paper Ginobili "got tangled up a little bit" with Raja Bell when he stumbled backward, and "just to make his point, he was falling down."

"It was an accident," D'Antoni told the Republic.

Ginobili has been accused in the past of overacting to draw fouls; Suns forward Shawn Marion even joked about practicing his own acting skills during last season's Western Conference finals, the paper reported.

Barbosa was averaging 15.7 points in 25.8 minutes this season.

--

Ginobli thus puts other players at risk with his absurd offensive flopping. He does not try to hurt players intentionally like Bowen does, but he's still a dirty player.

[judaspriestess]

That plus he's a champion, a great defensive player, an allstar, a proven good guy, and a veteran.

what a bout the suns fan? oh that's right, he's a nobody

I suspect the suns homers won't come and post any comments on this thread except for something stupid like we've seen already.

[raedd]

You're the best.



thx, now you may be my personal b1tch.

[Slinkyman]

I think some fans get too carried away with this stuff. Look the NBA is not exactly thrilled with the prospect of another Spurs/Pistons Finals rematch. If anything the League will be doing cartwheels if the Suns end up eliminating the Spurs and the Pistons losing in the East Finals to either the Cavs or Nets. That series while I watched all 7 games was not exactly exciting to anyone except basketball junkies like me.

the league would do cartwheels if the Lakers and Heat were in the finals and that's about the only two teams they'd love to see. You could probably add the cavs to that list as well but the suns? They're a small market like the spurs, just because there is more scoring doesn't mean lots of people will tune in. Superstars bring in viewers and Nash isn't a superstar, the average joe doesn't realize how good he is and probably thinks Wade or LBJ is way better. No team drew a bigger audience then Jordan's Bulls and they were great defensive team that kept the game in the 80s to 90s.

[judaspriestess]

2005 you guys beat us in a great series. 2006 we were in the western conference finals against the Mavs. Where were the Spurs?

Where's your teams rings?

[PhxDog]

Ginobli thus puts other players at risk with his absurd offensive flopping. He does not try to hurt players intentionally like Bowen does, but he's still a dirty player.
Let's not go jumping to conclusions here. :lol


Manu doesn't have Bruce's documented history of purposefully injuring players here in the NBA, is how I would put it.

[FromWayDowntown]

thx, now you may be my personal b1tch.

All class. All the time.

[nkdlunch]

Here ya go:

Barbosa out 2-3 weeks after Ginobili fell into his knee
ESPN.com news services

Phoenix Suns guard Leandro Barbosa could miss up to three weeks with an injury to his left knee.

Barbosa has Grade 2 sprain of the medial collateral ligament in his left knee and is out two to three weeks, the team said Monday.

But while the diagnosis received a sigh of relief from the team, it offered little solace for Barbosa who believes the injury could have been avoided.

He was injured Saturday when Spurs guard Manu Ginobili fell into him. He did return to play in the second half of that game.

"Ginobili always likes to flop," Barbosa told The Arizona Republic. "Nobody even touched him.

"He jost flopped. That's why I feel sad to hurt myself like that," he added. "I wish I could have hurt myself in another way."

Suns coach Mike D'Antoni told the paper Ginobili "got tangled up a little bit" with Raja Bell when he stumbled backward, and "just to make his point, he was falling down."

"It was an accident," D'Antoni told the Republic.

Ginobili has been accused in the past of overacting to draw fouls; Suns forward Shawn Marion even joked about practicing his own acting skills during last season's Western Conference finals, the paper reported.

Barbosa was averaging 15.7 points in 25.8 minutes this season.

--

Ginobli thus puts other players at risk with his absurd offensive flopping. He does not try to hurt players intentionally like Bowen does, but he's still a dirty player.

enjoy your round 2 sweep. fan of a fluke team.

[raedd]

All class. All the time.


Thats what you spurms fans lack; u could learn a thing or two from us Suns fans.

[PhxDog]

Alonzo also wouldn't call Carlos Boozer a welsher, because Alonzo himself has been called a welsher, back when he welshed his way out of the contract he signed with New Jersey.

Also, Alonzo doesn't like it when people refer to Shawn Bradley as "poster bait".





Alonzo Mourning knows how much the truth hurts, you see.

[dimsah]

Spurms? That takes me back. Ah, days gone by.

[mardigan]

Ginobli thus puts other players at risk with his absurd offensive flopping. He does not try to hurt players intentionally like Bowen does, but he's still a dirty player.
So because Barbosa was bitching SPur fans should take his side? We should think that Manu and Bruce are dirty because of some shitty article you found? Or maybe just because you say it makes it so. Get over yourself

[Hook Dem]

"Black Jesus" just revealed his motive! He fears the Spurs! Get ready to get nailed to the cross!!!! :madrun

[gilmor]

You guys don't get it. It all started with Mike D'Antoni... He is the one who has instructed his players to come out in the open to say something like that because he is one mother fukking whiny little bitch.. You don't see Spurs players do that because Pop wouldn't have allowed it.

When I see Nash, I am just wondering why this classy guy is doing with a stupid coach like Mike D'Antoni

[Amare_32]

the league would do cartwheels if the Lakers and Heat were in the finals and that's about the only two teams they'd love to see. You could probably add the cavs to that list as well but the suns? They're a small market like the spurs, just because there is more scoring doesn't mean lots of people will tune in. Superstars bring in viewers and Nash isn't a superstar, the average joe doesn't realize how good he is and probably thinks Wade or LBJ is way better. No team drew a bigger audience then Jordan's Bulls and they were great defensive team that kept the game in the 80s to 90s.

That may be true but I find it sad that people rather watch the Heat and Lakers 2 mediocore teams then the 2 best teams in the West.

[FromWayDowntown]

Thats what you spurms fans lack; u could learn a thing or two from us Suns fans.

And yet, I'm somehow managed to avoid calling anyone a "fag" or a "bitch."

Please, where do I sign up for those lessons in class?

[raedd]

enjoy your round 2 sweep. fan of a fluke team.


Is that a picture of u? If so, ever heard of plastic surgery or proactiv?

MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nashfan]

By watching him "defend" Tim Duncan and by listing to the shit that comes out of his mouth.


You mean just like Duncan guarded Amare in 2005? :lol

[Suns>Spurs]

:fishing :fishing thats all Mourning needs to worry about

[mardigan]

You mean just like Duncan guarded Amare in 2005? :lol
Howd that turn out for him that year?

[kps0001]

Where's your teams rings?


Spurs fans need to stop living in the past. Lakers fans use the same argument. Weak.

Its like me saying how are you guys enjoying the MLB season? oh wait you don't have a team. how bout the upcoming NFL season? oh wait you don't even have a team. NHL playoffs are in high gear, oh wait you don't even have a team. Stupid and pointless.

We OBVIOUSLY have NO RINGS and are trying to change that. Will we? I don't know but I hope so, so it shuts up people like you. All I know is you asked what our excuses were in 2005 and 2006 and I pointed out that you guys took us out in 2005 in the WCF and you guys didn't even make it there in 2006 and you come back with the "how many rings" thing again. WEAK.

[judaspriestess]

:fishing :fishing thats all Mourning needs to worry about


and now he has time to polish that gorgeous World Champion ring he has. Isn't that what your team is striving for? whining to the media is not going to gain any sympathy.

[Amare_32]

You mean just like Duncan guarded Amare in 2005? :lol


You forget that was by design. The Spurs game plan was to let Amare get his points but stay home on the shooters. Remember that Marion and Richardson were M.I.A. in that series.

[dimsah]

This thread just gets better and better.
:drunk

[mikekim]

I don't know how (some) spurs fans (and bruce bowen fans) can even put up with this stupidity. I for one have said my two cents, and it has proved to be a bad investment...over and over again over the years...

I suggest we just don't even talk about it anymore. It's really pointless.

[Scumbag]

I am still in shock having Spurs fans accuse ANYONE of whining. :madrun

[Amare_32]

And how many rings does Amare and the rest of the Suns have?


8th seed

[Slinkyman]

Spurs fans need to stop living in the past. Lakers fans use the same argument. Weak.

Its like me saying how are you guys enjoying the MLB season? oh wait you don't have a team. how bout the upcoming NFL season? oh wait you don't even have a team. NHL playoffs are in high gear, oh wait you don't even have a team. Stupid and pointless.

We OBVIOUSLY have NO RINGS and are trying to change that. Will we? I don't know but I hope so, so it shuts up people like you. All I know is you asked what our excuses were in 2005 and 2006 and I pointed out that you guys took us out in 2005 in the WCF and you guys didn't even make it there in 2006 and you come back with the "how many rings" thing again. WEAK.

Do you think people are jealous that we don't have an NFL team but you have the cardinals? :lolhttp://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/061017_dennis_green.jpg

[gilmor]

Actually it all started with the spurs dirty play, c0ckmaster.

Haha, i think you are the worst.. you actually hide behind the team u hates the most.. no point wasting bandwidth on you piece of shit..

[PM5K]

You think Bowen sliding under people to try to hurt their ankles and knees is "hard"?

LOL.

There arent many more cowardly, soft acts on a bball court than undercutting a player or kicking them when their back is turned to you.

If Bruce was a man, he wouldnt kick a Ray Allen on the ground with his back to him or kick Amare in the back of his achillles with his back turned to him. He'd pop them in the mouth.

These acts just show what a lame pussy Bowen is.

I guess I should have found an emoticon to express my sarcasm better....

[mikekim]

I posted this in one of the other billion threads on this...and i'll post it here too (not that i consider it to be a remarkably brilliant post or anything of that sort):

I don't know how (some) spurs fans (and bruce bowen fans) can even put up with this stupidity. I for one have said my two cents, and it has proved to be a bad investment...over and over again over the years...

I suggest we just don't even talk about it anymore. It's really pointless.

[Nashfan]

But if Amare does turn to try to get the ball there, Manu twists Amare's microfracture knee out of alignment...eh, whatever.


True

[Gaddabout]

pop is an ugly dirty POS; just look at his face. :spless:

That was just entirely unnecessary.

[Gaddabout]

Do you think people are jealous that we don't have an NFL team but you have the cardinals?

We tried our best to give them to you but the Bidwills were just bluffing and didn't want to move. Bastards.