WTF was up with Jon Barry?

[SpursChampsIII]

Everything the Spurs did was a missed call, and everything the Suns did was a bad call. Fuck that ignorant bastard...no offense to Brent.

[sabar]

I hate ABC.

[bresilhac]

Everything the Spurs did was a missed call, and everything the Suns did was a bad call. Fuck that ignorant bastard...no offense to Brent.

I agree. Jon Barry's comment's throughout the night showed a distinct disdain for the Spurs and an obvious favoritism for Phoenix. ABC needs to shelve J. Barry like they did Al Micheals for being completely devoid of any broadcasting talent.

[Phenomanul]

He tries too hard to a give semblance of objectivity.... So that others don't feel as if his bloodties to Brent alter or affect his neutrality.

Steve Kerr also goes overkill on this very tactic.

Trust me, deep down I'm sure he is rooting for his brother's team.

[milkyway21]

he was actually cheering for Brent before he made his 3pter of the game. Sounds like he was happy when Brent made an apperance on the court.

i think he was okay :rolleyes

[Kori Ellis]

We were just watching some of the game again.

"Robert Horry can guard anyone from the 1 to the 5" - Jon Barry :wtf

"Michael Finley had never been known as 3 point shooter in his career until this season" - Jon Barry :wtf

"Leandro Barbosa was born in a small city - São Paulo, Brazil" - Mike Tirico :wtf

[milkyway21]

We were just watching some of the game again.

"Robert Horry can guard anyone from the 1 to the 5" - Jon Barry :wtf

"Michael Finley had never been known as 3 point shooter in his career until this season" - Jon Barry :wtf

"Leandro Barbosa was born in a small city - São Paulo, Brazil" - Mike Tirico :wtf
about Robert Horry that was him? whoa! I'm disappointed Brent opps Jon.

[lefty]

We were just watching some of the game again.

"Robert Horry can guard anyone from the 1 to the 5" - Jon Barry :wtf

"Michael Finley had never been known as 3 point shooter in his career until this season" - Jon Barry :wtf

"Leandro Barbosa was born in a small city - São Paulo, Brazil" - Mike Tirico :wtf
:lol :lol

I think I'm gonna start a good one at petitiononline.com

[Man of Steel]

Jon Barry has a huge crush on Steve Nash and STAT.

He probably jacks off to a poster of them both in between station breaks.

[Chris]

He tries too hard to a give semblance of objectivity.... So that others don't feel as if his bloodties to Brent alter or affect his neutrality.

Steve Kerr also goes overkill on this very tactic.

Trust me, deep down I'm sure he is rooting for his brother's team.

Exactly.

[popshark86]

he also said about barry being slow

when brent barry came out

someone said "Talking about being slow"

is he trying to make fun of his bro

[lefty]

I think I'm gonna start a good one at petitiononline.com

[1SUNSFAN]

Everything the Spurs did was a missed call, and everything the Suns did was a bad call. Fuck that ignorant bastard...no offense to Brent.

The TRUTH HURTS! The only ones that didn't see the obvious missed calls are the stupid Spurs fans and the refs. Terrible officiating. I hope Raja brings out the clothesline next game so you can see what a REAL foul looks like. :nope

[OldDirtMcGirt]

The TRUTH HURTS! The only ones that didn't see the obvious missed calls are the stupid Spurs fans and the refs. Terrible officiating. I hope Raja brings out the clothesline next game so you can see what a REAL foul looks like. :nope

Don't stoop to Bowen's level. The Suns can still win this, and they can do so playing clean.

[Strike]

The TRUTH HURTS! The only ones that didn't see the obvious missed calls are the stupid Spurs fans and the refs. Terrible officiating. I hope Raja brings out the clothesline next game so you can see what a REAL foul looks like. :nope

TOOL.

[flipcritic]

Don't stoop to Bowen's level. The Suns can still win this, and they can do so playing clean.

You said it Amare!

[IX_Equilibrium]

People rip on Collins and M. Jackson, but I like their commentating,

[kris]

You like Doug Collins?

"How about that little shot from little Tony Parker? You know he's got the little scoop in traffic going and then he can shoot the little push shot in the lane if Amare gets too close. Boy I tell you this little guy is something else."

It's coming to the point where I'm going to mute the TV if he's on.

[Man of Steel]

The TRUTH HURTS! The only ones that didn't see the obvious missed calls are the stupid Spurs fans and the refs. Terrible officiating. I hope Raja brings out the clothesline next game so you can see what a REAL foul looks like. :nope


Hey Puss--how'd you like the way Manu owned that fucking overrated prick, Raji Bell?

You won't be around long--we'll flush you like we're flushing your team right now--so go fuck yourself.

[jcrod]

We were just watching some of the game again.

"Robert Horry can guard anyone from the 1 to the 5" - Jon Barry :wtf

"Michael Finley had never been known as 3 point shooter in his career until this season" - Jon Barry :wtf

"Leandro Barbosa was born in a small city - São Paulo, Brazil" - Mike Tirico :wtf


How bout when he said TP is tuff being 5'10 and going up against 7 footers. Damn don't these guys get their facts straight beforing talking.

[Johnny RIngo]

The TRUTH HURTS! The only ones that didn't see the obvious missed calls are the stupid Spurs fans and the refs. Terrible officiating. I hope Raja brings out the clothesline next game so you can see what a REAL foul looks like. :nope

The Suns are about as hard as a wad of toilet paper. They're a soft team comprised of a group of whiners. You get too physical with them and they bitch like there's no tomorrow. They would probably last all of 2 seconds against the 90s Pistons or Knicks.

Current Suns=Kings from a few years back

[TheSanityAnnex]

1st half- jon barry on the spurs nuts

2nd half- jon barry on the suns nuts

[ALVAREZ6]

"Leandro Barbosa was born in a small city - São Paulo, Brazil" - Mike Tirico :wtfI'm glad you pointed this out, because I've heard commentators say this so many times, well, at least 3 times the past week. That's just fucking ignorance, what morons.

Sao Paulo is a monstrous city, 4th largest by population in the world.

[dmac]

I know, he really pissed me off with all the anti-Spur comments. I guess it stems from jealosy. Did Popp have a chance to pick him up and passed? We all know where the talent in the Barry family tree and it sure wasn't going to Jonny boy!

[Kori Ellis]

How bout when he said TP is tuff being 5'10 and going up against 7 footers. Damn don't these guys get their facts straight beforing talking.

:lmao I forgot about the 5'10 comment.

[zekes]

I'm glad you pointed this out, because I've heard commentators say this so many times, well, at least 3 times the past week. That's just fucking ignorance, what morons.

Sao Paulo is a monstrous city, 4th largest by population in the world.

yea, mike breen said the same thing in game one.

[exstatic]

"Yeah, Robert won a lot of rings. I played with Robert in LA in a year they didn't win. Thanks a lot Robert."
:lmao

As for the Jon/Brent thing, it's not really a secret that they're not terribly close. The brothers have different degrees of closeness to their father after he divorced their mom, and it affects their relationships with each other. I think I read that Brent has the best relation ship with pop Rick.

[Borosai]

It's ABC...they have no business in basketball, which is painfully obvious every time I have to listen the the fucking Pussycat Whores.

[my2sons]

The TRUTH HURTS! The only ones that didn't see the obvious missed calls are the stupid Spurs fans and the refs. Terrible officiating. I hope Raja brings out the clothesline next game so you can see what a REAL foul looks like. :nope

ya i'm sure the truth is extremely painful, like dantoni is a whiny little bitch, nash is the only player who gets it, and let me think, oh ya the final score.

[hater]

he used to get beat up by his brother all the time

[zrinkill]

The TRUTH HURTS! The only ones that didn't see the obvious missed calls are the stupid Spurs fans and the refs. Terrible officiating. I hope Raja brings out the clothesline next game so you can see what a REAL foul looks like. :nope

Crybaby bitch ...... look at Manu's eye and Duncans tore clothes. ....

[zrinkill]

Don't stoop to Bowen's level. The Suns can still win this, and they can do so playing clean.

Do not worry ..... you have no one who plays good enough defense to get to Bowens level.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I could have sworn at some points that I heard Barry agreeing with some officials' non-calls (both against SA and PHX) and saying a few times that some calls players were arguing with were either correct or incorrect.

[Obstructed_View]

It's quite sad that Mike Breen knows the rules of basketball better than the color commentators and has to explain things like body contact and defensive position. That said, some of you get way too defensive if the color commentator isn't firmly locked onto the Spurs' jocks. Most of the country is rooting for the Suns. Most Suns fans are complete and total whining vaginas. Get the fuck over it.

[bdictjames]

Jon is probably not his dad's favorite son.

[Nashfan]

Don't stoop to Bowen's level. The Suns can still win this, and they can do so playing clean.
:clap

[spursfan09]

I thought it was pretty obvious who he wanted to see win. When the Suns pulled within 6 with like 3 minutes left, Barry was very excited.

[The Red Hood]

It's ABC...they have no business in basketball, which is painfully obvious every time I have to listen the the fucking Pussycat Whores.

:lol That has to be one of the worst songs I have ever heard

[The Red Hood]

Do not worry ..... you have no one who plays good enough defense to get to Bowens level.

Nice :clap

[SenorSpur]

Since I was at the game I didn't hear his bonehead comments. However, I have heard things from him in past games that cause me to to do a mental double-take and ask "did he just say that"?

To have played in the league for as long as he has, this guy is a freaking moron.
As a professional broadcaster he is expected to remain unbiased, but I at least thought he would be more supportive of the Spurs because of his brother Brent. Dude his articulate, but his factual commentary is full of holes.

Of course, I never liked his arrogant ass when he was in the league because every time he would nail a three, he would trot back down court proudly holding up three fingers in an "OK"-style symbol. Plus he was a journeyman player at best - he wasn't all that.

[peskypesky]

I hate Jon Barry and I think he's just a jealous bitch cause his hair fell out and Brent's didn't.

[davidbowie]

I hate Jon Barry and I think he's just a jealous bitch cause his hair fell out and Brent's didn't.

i like this argument best

[GrandeDavid]

"Leandro Barbosa was born in a small city - São Paulo, Brazil" - Mike Tirico :wtf

I didn't hear his broadcast, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to be cute on that one.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Saopaulo_copan.jpg

[GrandeDavid]

:clap

Phoenix is soft. They can't play physical ball so they resort to cheap shots such as Marion's on Manu...and Bell is constantly clawing and scratching.

There is not one player on the Phoenix roster with Tim, Manu, Bruce, Tony Horry's (shall I go on?) championship pedigree. You've gotta play tough to earn it and players must look within for answers, as Nash has been doing, and not blame the opponent. Maybe Phoenix will start to get it...

[Kori Ellis]

I didn't hear his broadcast, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to be cute on that one.


No, he wasn't. The announcers have repeated it throughout the series. They actually think it's a small city :lol

[Russ]

About a week ago on an ABC pregame, Jon Barry was asked who would win the title and offered this prediction:


I think the Spurs are gonna do it again, I really do.

He was smiling and nodding his head the whole time. This is no Spurs-hater.

[Obstructed_View]

Many times broadcasters who root for one team are careful to give the other team the benefit of the doubt, particularly when they aren't employed by that team. Barry wouldn't be the first or the last.

[Russ]

"Leandro Barbosa was born in a small city - São Paulo, Brazil" - Mike Tirico :wtf

Sao Paulo has a population of over 11 million. Some small town.

But in fairness to Tirico, Sao Paulo is a small media market (like San Antonio). :spin

[judaspriestess]

The TRUTH HURTS! The only ones that didn't see the obvious missed calls are the stupid Spurs fans and the refs. Terrible officiating. I hope Raja brings out the clothesline next game so you can see what a REAL foul looks like. :nope


wow, what a fucktard

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Phoenix is soft. They can't play physical ball so they resort to cheap shots such as Marion's on Manu...and Bell is constantly clawing and scratching.

There is not one player on the Phoenix roster with Tim, Manu, Bruce, Tony Horry's (shall I go on?) championship pedigree. You've gotta play tough to earn it and players must look within for answers, as Nash has been doing, and not blame the opponent. Maybe Phoenix will start to get it...

Classic stuff. A Spurs fan accusing other teams of cheapshots.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Many times broadcasters who root for one team are careful to give the other team the benefit of the doubt, particularly when they aren't employed by that team. Barry wouldn't be the first or the last.

The other guy on the broadcast (Breen?) was constantly siding with the Spurs on calls. So really it balanced itself out.

I'm more concerned with Jon Barry's total ignorance about basketball than his supposed bias.

[Obstructed_View]

Classic stuff. A Spurs fan accusing other teams of cheapshots.
I agree. The Suns and their fans have the market cornered on blaming the officials and dirty play for losses rather than poor defense, execution and decision making. Those complaints just ring hollow coming from a Spurs fan despite Manu's black eye the knot on Parker's head.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

I agree. The Suns and their fans have the market cornered on blaming the officials and dirty play for losses. It just rings hollow coming from a Spurs fan, even though Manu has a black eye and Parker has a knot on his head.

Please. I'm fine if Spurs fans want to chalk this up to playoffs, physical basketball, etc. But to then go call out the other team for something that the Spurs do on a regular basis is purely hypocritical. Make up your mind.

[Sweetey]

Jon Barry is an f'ing limp dick. What a faggot !! He's obviously screwing the biggest fag coach in the NBA - d'antoni !!!

[Obstructed_View]

The other guy on the broadcast (Breen?) was constantly siding with the Spurs on calls. So really it balanced itself out.

I'm more concerned with Jon Barry's total ignorance about basketball than his supposed bias.
As I mentioned before, Breen was pointing out the rules to the ex-NBA player, who we agree seems ignorant of the rules when criticizing calls. Breen was correct in virtually every case. I submit that it may be an attempt to compensate for a rooting interest in San Antonio on his part.

[lefty]

WELL, he just did it again, during the Bulls-Pistons pre-game show ; what a moron : "I thought it was intentional" (the knee in ballz play)

[1Parker1]

Jon Barry's a dumbass. He just stated again that he was in the Suns locker room and everyone including Nash, Steoudmaire, etc were upset with Bowen's "knee to the groin of Nash" Bullshit.

What's more he goes on to say that it was clear that Bruce had the intent
do that and he should have been tossed or assessed a flagarant :wtf Sometimes, I really hate ABC commentators. They always state their opinion as if it were a clear fact of the matter. Brent needs to beat up his brother. Jon prolly hates the Spurs cuz his brother managed to get a ring with them and he reitred without one

[Sweetey]

Jon Barry's a dumbass. He just stated again that he was in the Suns locker room and everyone including Nash, Steoudmaire, etc were upset with Bowen's "knee to the groin of Nash" Bullshit.

What's more he goes on to say that it was clear that Bruce had the intent
do that and he should have been tossed or assessed a flagarant :wtf Sometimes, I really hate ABC commentators. They always state their opinion as if it were a clear fact of the matter. Brent needs to beat up his brother. Jon prolly hates the Spurs cuz his brother managed to get a ring with them and he reitred without one
He's blowing d'antoni -- let them screw each other !!

[OldDirtMcGirt]

As I mentioned before, Breen was pointing out the rules to the ex-NBA player, who we agree seems ignorant of the rules when criticizing calls. Breen was correct in virtually every case. I submit that it may be an attempt to compensate for a rooting interest in San Antonio on his part.

This is the kind of hypocrisy that I'm talking about. When Barry points out clear and obvious bad calls, it's him being a Suns homer, but when Breen does the same thing in the Spurs favor he's just point out the rules.

[Obstructed_View]

Please. I'm fine if Spurs fans want to chalk this up to playoffs, physical basketball, etc. But to then go call out the other team for something that the Spurs do on a regular basis is purely hypocritical. Make up your mind.
Hey, I agreed with you. I can show you a picture of Amare putting his forearm in Manu's throat BEFORE he got kicked in the balls, I can show you Parker getting head-butted to the ground by a guy who threw Avery Johnson to the floor, and I can show you Manu's black eye. I'll even throw in a takedown on Kobe Bryant that drew a suspension. I can also explain how Nash initiated the contact with Bowen and Amare initiated the contact with Horry.

If virtually every Suns fan that's been in this forum has the complete and total lack of decorum to accept that their team is just getting beat, and would rather ride the whaaambulance from thread to thread with the complaints on full volume, you will carry very little weight choosing only to go after the occasional Spurs fan who throws your own claims back at you just to piss you off.

[GoSpurs21]

This is the kind of hypocrisy that I'm talking about. When Barry points out clear and obvious bad calls, it's him being a Suns homer, but when Breen does the same thing in the Spurs favor he's just point out the rules.I cant believe the Suns fans think that Bruce intentionally kneed Nash in his vagina. when your team actually finds their nads then what you say will actually sound like something other than whining

[Obstructed_View]

This is the kind of hypocrisy that I'm talking about. When Barry points out clear and obvious bad calls, it's him being a Suns homer, but when Breen does the same thing in the Spurs favor he's just point out the rules.
I'm sorry, I could swear you said that Barry was ignorant. I agreed with you. I mentioned that Breen knows the rules before you ever came in here. In addition, if I ever mentioned that Barry was a Suns homer I certainly don't recall doing so. You might pick a position and stick with it at some point, because you just look like a moron throwing a fit in an opposing team's forum.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Hey, I agreed with you. I can show you a picture of Amare putting his forearm in Manu's throat BEFORE he got kicked in the balls, I can show you Parker getting head-butted to the ground by a guy who threw Avery Johnson to the floor, and I can show you Manu's black eye. I'll even throw in a takedown on Kobe Bryant that drew a suspension. I can also explain how Nash initiated the contact with Bowen and Amare initiated the contact with Horry.

If virtually every Suns fan that's been in this forum has the complete and total lack of decorum to accept that their team is just getting beat, and would rather ride the whaaambulance from thread to thread with the complaints on full volume, you will carry very little weight choosing only to go after the occasional Spurs fan who throws your own claims back at you just to piss you off.

My point exactly. Don't complain about the suns if you don't complain about your own players.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

I'm sorry, I could swear you said that Barry was ignorant. I agreed with you. I mentioned that Breen knows the rules before you ever came in here. In addition, if I ever mentioned that Barry was a Suns homer I certainly don't recall doing so. You might pick a position and stick with it at some point, because you just look like a moron throwing a fit in an opposing team's forum.

I was referring to Barry making moronic and unsightful comments about things that actually pertain to the game, not fouls, not about his bitching about obvious no calls against the Suns.

[SpursWoman]

About a week ago on an ABC pregame, Jon Barry was asked who would win the title and offered this prediction:



He was smiling and nodding his head the whole time. This is no Spurs-hater.

I remember that, too. But in all of the predictions on the website and in pretty much all broadcasts besides that one where it's discussed, he picks/ed the Suns.


*shrugs*

[Obstructed_View]

My point exactly. Don't complain about the suns if you don't complain about your own players.
You might do well to follow your own advice, especially if you are throwing the "hypocrite" label around.


I was referring to Barry making moronic and unsightful comments about things that actually pertain to the game, not fouls, not about his bitching about obvious no calls against the Suns.
According to you and your ilk, fouls pertain to the game more than the play of the players on the court, since it's the primary reason the Suns ever lose. I think you've gotten hopelessly lost in your own circular logic. I must admit that it's very difficult to try to extract any coherent belief from.

[infinite styles]

On the real, this shit is getting very old very quickly. Cheapshots have been around the game for decades. Its only now with the insertion of 1000's of camera angles are people really starting to see what goes on during game time. And don't be fooled by thinking that this is isolated to certain teams, its all over. Any team with a guy that has played 3 or more years in the league has a cheapshot in his arsenal. The only time it becomes a factor is when a fans team loses. Not just Spurs Fans, not just Suns Fans but all fans.

I'm getting to the point where I can give a shit about what anybody else thinks I just want to see basketball being played. The media's job is to hype up matchups and situations in order to produce ratings that is all. They could care less whether they are right or wrong as long as they get to spew an opinion and get people to agree or disagree. This creates intrigue and interest and that in turn creates money. We are watching a great series that would probably still be great if it was broadcast on PBS. The negative is that we have to listen to the "opinions" of jackasses for hours on end just to get to the reason why we watch...to see the players play.

I suggest push the mute button.

[GrandeDavid]

Sao Paulo has a population of over 11 million. Some small town.

But in fairness to Tirico, Sao Paulo is a small media market (like San Antonio). :spin

Sao Paulo is the world's second largest city and a massive, absolutely major economic hub in South America. I'd have to say its media market is much larger than San Antonio's, even taking into consideration per capita economic factors like GDP per household.

[jag]

Don't stoop to Bowen's level. The Suns can still win this, and they can do so playing clean.

it's good to see yall out in full support :rolleyes

[The Red Hood]

What's more he goes on to say that it was clear that Bruce had the intent
do that and he should have been tossed or assessed a flagarant

Wow if he said that he sure is wishy washy because I remember he said in last nights game that bowens knee to the groin was not intentional that NBA players are allowed to clear out space with there elbows and legs.

[Dro210]

Barry was horrible yesterday... I found myself talking shit to him thru the tv he was so bad, lol... he was more biased for the Suns than Sean is for the Spurs

He must be jealous that Brent's got a ring and is about to get another one... I bet Brent and Rick rub it in all the time that they have rings and he doesn't...

[Obstructed_View]

Some of you guys need to watch the games when the Spurs aren't involved. If you can't hear bias by the commentators when you have no rooting interest, then maybe your own bias is affecting what you hear.

[ploto]

Maybe Jon is simply expressing what Brent never would. :D

[LaMarcus Bryant]

"Michael Finley had never been known as 3 point shooter in his career until this season" - Jon Barry :wtf



LOL I remember that, I was like w-t-f

[LakerLanny]

Jon Barry has a huge crush on Steve Nash and STAT.

He probably jacks off to a poster of them both in between station breaks.

His anti Lakers stances during last round's playoffs vs the Suns was nauseating for a lot of Lakers fans. There were like 20 threads at one time on Lakersground on that very subject.

Barry is a punk ass. :devil

[dg7md]

I can't believe you guys really care what radio broadcasters think. Every fan of every team thinks an announcer is out to get them. Give me a break Spurs fans, who cares what announcers claim or say even if they do say something about the Spurs? I see radio and TV announcers praise the Spurs ALL the time.

[ambchang]

Wow if he said that he sure is wishy washy because I remember he said in last nights game that bowens knee to the groin was not intentional that NBA players are allowed to clear out space with there elbows and legs.
I was arguing about this with a buddy of mine last night and this morning. He first insisted that Bowen did not swing is body, and was strictly raising his leg to knee Nash.
Upon review, he admitted that Bowen did swing.
Also, I looked up the rule book during our argument, and to strictly call by the rulebook, it should even have been a Nash foul, but we all know this is not going to happen.

http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_12.html?nav=ArticleList


A player shall not hold, push, charge into, impede the progress of an oppo-nent by extending a hand, forearm, leg or knee or by bending the body into a posi-tion that is not normal. Contact that results in the re-routing of an opponent is a foul which must be called immediately.

[BigBeezie]

I don't know who made the call to hire Jon Barry, but they should start with a random fire of them. Jon Barry and Steve Kerr are two guys with Spurs ties, that seem to do nothing but talk the Spurs down.