would you buy hybrid car

[ducks]

http://www.hybridcars.com/hybrid-pick-up-trucks.html

thinking about buying a new car next year

thinking I might buy a civic on or a Toyota Prius

the toyota is a bigger car but I might have to wait 6 months to get it (long waiting list)

but it gets 60 miles per gallon

the honda accord is due out next month.

but would you buy one? or wait 2 years and see what they develop buy them

the ford escape gets 36 milers per gallon

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I've been reading up on the Ford Ranger hybrid in the works.

I would buy it if I could match the performance of my current Ranger for a decent price.

[ducks]

seems they are about 2 thousand dollars more

not sure on rangers


read dodge rams are coming out but only in 5 states this year

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Didn't know Dodge was making a hybrid Ram.

Got some info? I'd be interested to see some.

[mouse]

I have a friend who owns the Toyota one and it kicks ass. There is no key and no motor to start, the car is so quiet, and he gets a lot more miles than 60 a gallon, those are city miles, he told me he can almost get 100 miles per gallon if he drives under 55 miles an hour, The car has a cool display screen on the dash it shows when the generators that are located in each wheel when they are charging the batteries, in fact the only time the small engine kicks in is when he guns the pedal, or drives over a certain speed, I have been in golf carts that had more noise when you push on the pedal. It has a very smooth ride, Unless you have been in one don't go by what you read, It's kinda like sex you have to try it yourself to really know what all the hype is about.

Get your name on that waiting list you wont be sorry,

[ducks]

maybe I will talk to them next week about one
100 miles per hour awesome

most of my driving is under that anyhow (work related)hybrid pick-up trucks

While the selling point for many of the new 2005 hybrid vehicles is power and comfort for the yuppies, the hybrid pickups are pitching a cool feature to the working guys:

A generator that you don’t have to lug around.

Will consumers pay a couple of thousand more bucks, in the case of the pickups about $2,500 more, for only a slight gain in mpg’s and an added cool feature: three-pronged outlets?

The Silverado and Sierra hybrids act as power generators, with two conventional, three-prong plug-ins under the rear seat, and two more in the back of the bed. The four 120-volt, 20 amp electrical auxiliary power outlets can power powersaws, grinders, hairdryers or laptops. The juice is activated while the truck is running or after it’s shut off with the keys taken out of the ignition. The power supply circuits are protected by a ground fault detection system so overloads and short circuits can be avoided. According to GM, the new hybrid pickups could maintain power for up to 32 hours non-stop before needing to fill the tank. This function proved very useful to a few Floridians during the recent hurricanes. According to the Orlando Sentinel, GM loaned some of the hybrid pickups to relief workers in stricken areas.

The batteries (three 14-volt units plus the standard 12-volt) that make this magic happen cannot power the truck forward at lower speeds, and don’t give any extra oomph for passing—the way Honda’s power assist system works, for example. With no extra boost from the electric motor, the hybrid pickups can’t reduce the size of their engine. The ability to use the electric components to reduce engine size is a key component of the existing hybrid strategy—but it’s not employed here. Instead the trucks use the same old 5.3 liter V8 pickup engine.

The End of Idle

The trucks do use an idle-stop function (found in current hybrids), which shuts off the gas engine when the car is idling at a stop. The Christian Science Monitor says, “The Sierra shows that no new car should idle anymore.” If these trucks really do prove that every car can and should stop spewing pollution when sitting in a traffic jam, it would serve a noble purpose. In the case of these trucks, this feature adds about 2 mpgs in city and 1 mpg on the highway—about 18 town, 21 highway mpg.

Otherwise, expect many of the specs of the conventional Sierra and Silverado in the hybrid versions:

* Body: 2 or 4 door, or ladder frame
* 295 horsepower
* 335 foot pounds of torque
* 4 speed auto with tow-haul mode
* Towing capacity, around 10,000 pounds

The trucks will only be available in six states in 2005: California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska, Nevada and Florida. In 2006, it will roll out in all fifty states. The MSRP for the 2-wheel drive will be approximately $32,000, with the four-wheel drive coming in closer to $36,000.

Dodge Ram Hybrid

Write-ups about the Dodge Ram Hybrid sounds very similar to the GM trucks, with the notable difference of it being a diesel-electric hybrid. The diesel will produce better fuel economy, with an additional 15% mpg boost over the conventional diesel Ram coming from the electric side. Diesels are generally considered “dirtier” on the environmental front. The Dodge Ram Diesel Hybrid, expected to sell for around $40,000, will only be available for commercial fleets when it is released in late 2004 or early 2005.

[mouse]

Dude if you liked the cars in Minority report? Then this is the way to go. I am not sure if i would want a truck unless I was just using it for light jobs, If i was going to use the truck for pulling a trailer or for heavy duty type of work I might want the power of the fuel guzzling V-8, you can't beat the power of the V-8

If you like we can start a business that way you write the truck off as a business expense, all we need is a floor buffer and I can re finish some hardwood floors then after 2 years we can just say we went out of business and you can have many tax breaks after that, A friend of mine who did taxes back in the 80s started a DJ business for the tax write off funny thing though I was doing the parties and we had no idea we would get so much work it turned out to be more money than we were making at our real jobs, we took many cash payments so we still could show the IRS it was not a money making business at the end, One day over a beer I will tell you how it all came to a crashing end, man those where the days..............

[Useruser666]

100 miles to the gallon? I just saw a report that they were getting less than their rated mpg. Watch out for the Prius. It is only ratedto carry just under 400 lbs of stuff including passengers. 2 big people and your pushing it. Plus milage will go down. If it's a to work driver or something I would say go for it.

[tsb2000]

I'm thinking about getting a Ford Escape hybrid for my next car (prob in about a year), but I'll need to drive one before I make up my mind. It's reported to get 35mpg / city, 45/ hwy. Pretty awesome for a SUV.

[ducks]

watching a car show now and they said the honda accord hybrid has MORE POWER then the regualar one. WOW

might go for the civic or honda accord

[ducks]

might do the highlander if I want to spend $34 k

[SequSpur]

I had a hybrid rental a few months ago, a toyota, i believe.... Yeah, they save lots of gas money, but the problem is they look like dog crap. If you want to be seen in crap, then buy a hybrid.

[Useruser666]

Most full size pickups can be retrofitted to run on propane. Finding a pump for that is not that easy but it's cleaner burning.

[CosmicCowboy]

I love how all the hybrid manufacturers say "replacing the battery is not an issue" but I think that the longest warranty on them is Toyotas at 100,000 miles...and with an estimated replacement cost of three to five THOUSAND they damn sure BETTER get good gas mileage...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Most full size pickups can be retrofitted to run on propane. Finding a pump for that is not that easy but it's cleaner burning.

My Ranger can run on ethanol, but I have yet to find a place to fill up on some anywhere near Texas.

[2pac]

There was a huge blow up a year ago about how the Prius drivers were pissed because they werent getting as good of gas milage as it was advertized to get.

In addition to that, you have to factor in the fact that you arent saving ANY money by having a hybrid, especially if you are a heavy driver.

The battery will most likely have to be replaced after 100k miles. Cost to you - 3-5k.

The Prius also is overpriced compared to similar cars in its styling range - because of the green technology. Look at similar compact cars - you pay a premium to save on gas.

I have this baby coming in in June:
http://www.rahul.net/dennisp/boxster/boxster-hwy35.jpg

[MannyIsGod]

I like the Prius, but the fact is over the long run any gas savings is negated by the extra costs on the car. I'd go for a regular civic or a deisel Jetta or Passat if you want to really get good milage. My escort got 35 mpg most of the time but well, you see where that got me.

[Shelly]

No. I need a fast car.

[Useruser666]

I love my truck. I would pay 2-3 thousand more for better gas milage. But I could take my truck and pull 2 Prius' behind it on a trailer faster than you can drive them. I live less than 5 miles from work so I actually save gas money compared to a Prius owner who lives 15 miles away work.

[Jimcs50]

I love my truck. I would pay 2-3 thousand more for better gas milage. But I could take my truck and pull 2 Prius' behind it on a trailer faster than you can drive them. I live less than 5 miles from work so I actually save gas money compared to a Prius owner who lives 15 miles away work.
So doing the math, you get 1/3 the milage that a Hybrid gets, yes?

[ducks]

the accord will not be out tell fall now

I think I will go with the civic

I have seen the Prius
the base one is 22k I heard
the civic is suppose to be 19k

[Jimcs50]

the accord will not be out tell fall now

I think I will go with the civic

I have seen the Prius
the base one is 22k I heard
the civic is suppose to be 19k


Well, with your winnings, you can put 1/3 down, so your payments will not be much. :spin

[Useruser666]

So doing the math, you get 1/3 the milage that a Hybrid gets, yes?

I have seen a real world test of the Prius and they DO NOT get over 60 mpg. I can get 18/21 mpg with my truck real world. I wish my truck was more efficient, but that's just not an option available yet. I would pay more for better mpg, but not in a vehicle with such limitations. It is a great choice for some though.

[ducks]

I talked to someone in yuma who has one
he gets 50 on the highway and he has 10,000 miles on his

[Jimcs50]

I talked to someone in yuma who has one
he gets 50 on the highway and he has 10,000 miles on his


So he has put in 200 gallons of gas in it at $2.00/gal., that comes to $400.00.

If you have a truck that gets 18/gallon, you have put in 555 gallons at $2.00/gal so you have spent $1100.00 in gas.

The car owner saves $700.00 every 10,000 miles or every 6 months at an annual savings of $1400 or a little over $110/ month

Is that worth the extra car payment?

[CosmicCowboy]

kinda hard to haul two ice chests loaded with beer, a barbeque pit, a half dozen lawn chairs, saddles and tack and four friends plus a 30 foot 9000# four horse slant trailer to the ranch in your little prissy prius.

[Shelly]

If you get a Prius, you can say, "Look! Prius!" and wave to all the other Prius owners like Larry David.

[SpursWoman]

kinda hard to haul two ice chests loaded with beer, a barbeque pit, a half dozen lawn chairs, saddles and tack and four friends plus a 30 foot 9000# four horse slant trailer to the ranch in your little prissy prius.


:lol :rollin

Kind of hard to do that in a Pontiac, too. :cuss :flipoff :flipoff

[Drachen]

So he has put in 200 gallons of gas in it at $2.00/gal., that comes to $400.00.

If you have a truck that gets 18/gallon, you have put in 555 gallons at $2.00/gal so you have spent $1100.00 in gas.

The car owner saves $700.00 every 10,000 miles or every 6 months at an annual savings of $1400 or a little over $110/ month

Is that worth the extra car payment?


There are also non-monetary reasons for doing this.

[AlamoSpursFan]

a 30 foot 9000# four horse slant trailer

Mrs. ASF wants one of these for Christmas. I can't figure out why since we only have TWO freaking horses...I guess she thinks they might want to switch places or something. Something tells me Santa won't have enough room in his sled this year...

:lol

[ducks]

you get 2000 tax deduction if you buy one

on the accord if you are currently getting 18 miles per gallon
drive 20 miles a day and gas is $2.22
over 10 years you save 10,000

but gas is always going up
and the accord gets 33 miles per gallon
you can do that at the accord's site

however I do more then 20 miles per day but gas was 2.25 now it is 1.97
they raise the gas in nov when 130,000 people start coming to town
and they see the rvs that can go 1500 on a tank of diesel come here on empty and they see $$$$$$$$$$$