View Full Version : Phoenix getting the benefit of six highly dubious calls - Charlie Rosen
jmard5
05-17-2007, 05:55 AM
from Spurs' star power comes through in clutch
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6821274
The Spurs commenced the game by playing spiritless ball, as though the suspensions of Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw had somehow depressed them. As though they'd be damned if they won and double-damned if they lost Game 5.
Meanwhile, the Suns were absolutely inspired.
As were the refs. The unofficial count had Phoenix getting the benefit of six highly dubious calls, while San Antonio was the beneficiary of only one. And how to explain what transpired with 11 ticks left in the game: Duncan was handed the ball and was about to make an inbounds pass when Mike D'Antoni suddenly raced on the court screaming and gesticulating like a madman. The refs responded by tooting their whistles and declaring a do-over. Why wasn't D'Antoni tagged with a technical?
Anyway, the Spurs stuck to their guns and salvaged a ball game that could easily have been lost. And the otherwise exhausted Suns will be instantly energized in Game 6 with the return of their banished warriors.
The only fitting conclusion for this remarkable series would be triple-overtime in Game 7.
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read more of the article at
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6821274
MaNuMaNiAc
05-17-2007, 06:42 AM
other than the fact that he got Manu's rebounds and the amount of points he scored in the fourth wrong, its a decent article
from Spurs' star power comes through in clutch
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6821274
The Spurs commenced the game by playing spiritless ball, as though the suspensions of Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw had somehow depressed them. As though they'd be damned if they won and double-damned if they lost Game 5.
Meanwhile, the Suns were absolutely inspired.
As were the refs. The unofficial count had Phoenix getting the benefit of six highly dubious calls, while San Antonio was the beneficiary of only one. And how to explain what transpired with 11 ticks left in the game: Duncan was handed the ball and was about to make an inbounds pass when Mike D'Antoni suddenly raced on the court screaming and gesticulating like a madman. The refs responded by tooting their whistles and declaring a do-over. Why wasn't D'Antoni tagged with a technical?
Anyway, the Spurs stuck to their guns and salvaged a ball game that could easily have been lost. And the otherwise exhausted Suns will be instantly energized in Game 6 with the return of their banished warriors.
The only fitting conclusion for this remarkable series would be triple-overtime in Game 7.
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read more of the article at
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6821274
YEAH WTF WAS UP WITH THAT?
WHY WAS NOTHING CALLED?
ambchang
05-17-2007, 08:08 AM
The game was as fairly called as humanly possible, but yeah D'antoni went on the court thing left me scratching my head, and it was the second time he did that in the game, he was on the court a little earlier when Parker was dribbling upcourt late in the fourth, and the ref had to push him back, he was quite cloes to Parker.
DampierAmGod
05-17-2007, 08:11 AM
The Spurs got another dubious call, the 3 pointer by Manu where Nash was jumping to the side of him and Manu locked his arm around Nash's shoulder and pulled him down on top of him to draw a foul and the refs bought it. Nash pointed it out right when he got up and replays showed it clearly. I'd call that pretty dubious.
It's irrelevant anyway, the Suns probably deserved a few more "dubious" calls after being robbed of Amare.
fyatuk
05-17-2007, 08:11 AM
The game was as fairly called as humanly possible, but yeah D'antoni went on the court thing left me scratching my head, and it was the second time he did that in the game, he was on the court a little earlier when Parker was dribbling upcourt late in the fourth, and the ref had to push him back, he was quite cloes to Parker.
AJ was doing that all throughout the the GS-Mavs series too. Apparently Coach's can come onto the court without penalty now, even if the player with the ball almost runs into him (almost happened with AJ).
41times
05-17-2007, 08:12 AM
Well Spurs fans get ready for some crazy calls in game 6. The NBA wants this series to go to a game 7 and have both teams at full strength and may the best team win. Book it.
SAGambler
05-17-2007, 08:13 AM
I wondered at the time what D'Antoni was thinking.
Still don't understand why he wasn't "T"d up for running onto the court during play.
And that "off the ball" foul that wasn't called that way was rather a dubious call also. That would have pretty much sealed the deal if it was called correctly.
Hank Hill
05-17-2007, 08:14 AM
The Spurs got another dubious call, the 3 pointer by Manu where Nash was jumping to the side of him and Manu locked his arm around Nash's shoulder and pulled him down on top of him to draw a foul and the refs bought it. Nash pointed it out right when he got up and replays showed it clearly. I'd call that pretty dubious.
It's irrelevant anyway, the Suns probably deserved a few more "dubious" calls after being robbed of Amare.
How's the http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4785/rc235073ru4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Soul_Patch
05-17-2007, 08:14 AM
I had never seen a coach come out that far. He was practically in the play.
took me a minute when see'ing it to realise what was going on. he was almost in front of the ref.
Was he trying to cause a diversion so he could have more time to set up for the inbounds play?
or just wasnt thinking?
Extra Stout
05-17-2007, 08:16 AM
The Spurs got another dubious call, the 3 pointer by Manu where Nash was jumping to the side of him and Manu locked his arm around Nash's shoulder and pulled him down on top of him to draw a foul and the refs bought it. Nash pointed it out right when he got up and replays showed it clearly. I'd call that pretty dubious.
It's irrelevant anyway, the Suns probably deserved a few more "dubious" calls after being robbed of Amare.
You're right -- it was totally unfair of Manu to use his special magnetic powers to cause Nash to fly up into the air and land on him.
FromWayDowntown
05-17-2007, 08:19 AM
It's irrelevant anyway, the Suns probably deserved a few more "dubious" calls after being robbed of Amare.
Amare shouldn't have robbed the Suns of his services. That was stupid.
Anyway, Game 6 should be epic.
leemajors
05-17-2007, 08:19 AM
The Spurs got another dubious call, the 3 pointer by Manu where Nash was jumping to the side of him and Manu locked his arm around Nash's shoulder and pulled him down on top of him to draw a foul and the refs bought it. Nash pointed it out right when he got up and replays showed it clearly. I'd call that pretty dubious.
It's irrelevant anyway, the Suns probably deserved a few more "dubious" calls after being robbed of Amare.
ginobili shot, and nash hit his arm. i don't know what play you were watching.
SpursAREscumbags
05-17-2007, 08:20 AM
The Spurs have no right to complain about anything. The basketball gods hate the Spurs, they are like Satan. That is why they win, Satan is strong, but eventually he will get what he deserves, death and pain.
DampierAmGod
05-17-2007, 08:21 AM
You're right -- it was totally unfair of Manu to use his special magnetic powers to cause Nash to fly up into the air and land on him.
He "landed on him" because Manu pulled him down onto him. But I don't expect Spurs fans to admit it, after all some of the idiots here actually wanted Amare and Diaw suspended.
Soul_Patch
05-17-2007, 08:22 AM
I especially like that no contact flop by raja late in the 4th quarter.
that was the flop of the century imho.
leemajors
05-17-2007, 08:22 AM
He "landed on him" because Manu pulled him down onto him. But I don't expect Spurs fans to admit it, after all some of the idiots here actually wanted Amare and Diaw suspended.
did you watch the play? nash JUMPED INTO HIM.
FromWayDowntown
05-17-2007, 08:23 AM
He "landed on him" because Manu pulled him down onto him. But I don't expect Spurs fans to admit it, after all some of the idiots here actually wanted Amare and Diaw suspended.
I don't think anyone really wanted Amare and Diaw suspended. But: (1) we have no say in that; and (2) the rule was applied the same way it's always been applied.
Aren't Mavs fans the guys leading the "we need consistency" parade? Now we get consistency and at least one Mav fan is all bent out of shape about it.
lebomb
05-17-2007, 08:25 AM
the Suns probably deserved a few more "dubious" calls after being robbed of Amare.
PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP........AMARE MADE HIS BED....NOONE ELSE.....THE SUNS WERE NOT ROBBED.....PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP LOSER MAVERICK FAN. AMARE AND DIAW SHOULD HAVE KEPT THEIR ASSES ON THE BENCH LIKE THE OTHER 20 ODD PLAYERS ON THE BENCH AT THE TIME
:pctoss
ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
05-17-2007, 08:35 AM
He "landed on him" because Manu pulled him down onto him. But I don't expect Spurs fans to admit it, after all some of the idiots here actually wanted Amare and Diaw suspended.
Eh, I didn't check out the replay of that. I still think it's hard to argue or claim Nash was jumping to the side of Manu to contest a shot, he jumped right at him and basically his momentum was pretty much initiating contact. Whether Manu grabbed looked onto him to draw him closer in one huge motion after attempting a fading three...
Heh, you can pull the homer card all you like, but you're embarrassing yourself, quite honestly. :lol
ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
05-17-2007, 08:37 AM
D'antoni's antics were pretty annoying. But if they called the technical on him, other sides would be pissed at the zebras just the same. Anyway, Pop was treading close on a technical, at some point in the game. There were a lot of no-calls in this game on both sides so whatever.
jmard5
05-17-2007, 08:38 AM
You're right -- it was totally unfair of Manu to use his special magnetic powers to cause Nash to fly up into the air and land on him.
Suns fans, you might as well label the Spurs as cheap and dirty for hiring David Blaine and giving Manu magnetic gadgets.
Nash was forcefully drawn to Manu for the contact. :lol
violentkitten
05-17-2007, 08:40 AM
The Spurs got another dubious call, the 3 pointer by Manu where Nash was jumping to the side of him and Manu locked his arm around Nash's shoulder and pulled him down on top of him to draw a foul and the refs bought it. Nash pointed it out right when he got up and replays showed it clearly. I'd call that pretty dubious.
It's irrelevant anyway, the Suns probably deserved a few more "dubious" calls after being robbed of Amare.
rofl. nash ran into ginobili on that attempt. maybe ginobili grabbed nash as he was falling back after getting run over, but that's irrelevant. too much contact on a shooter to let it go.
violentkitten
05-17-2007, 08:41 AM
anyways, wtf was up with d'antoni running onto the court after the spurs inbounded the ball? fucking suns, bunch of hosers.
tmtcsc
05-17-2007, 08:42 AM
He "landed on him" because Manu pulled him down onto him. But I don't expect Spurs fans to admit it, after all some of the idiots here actually wanted Amare and Diaw suspended.
Hey Mavs fan,
Baron Davis just hit another 3 on you !! HA HA HA HAAHHAHA
http://www.knbr.com/blog/blog/Images/Articles/Entry56_126.jpg
jmard5
05-17-2007, 08:44 AM
And what did Manu say during his interview on national TV? The Suns can complain all they want, but it was a foul.
monosylab1k
05-17-2007, 09:06 AM
Nash jumped right into Ginobili, I don't see how anybody can possibly dispute that. Ginobili might have fallen for dramatic effect, but it was still a legitimate foul.
wildbill2u
05-17-2007, 09:14 AM
And what did Manu say during his interview on national TV? The Suns can complain all they want, but it was a foul.
A veteran player will often 'enhance' a foul to make sure the refs notice and call it. There is no question that Nash was running at Ginobili and couldn't stop his momentum into Manu or there wouldnt even be any discussion.
L.I.T
05-17-2007, 09:15 AM
Refs had to swallow their whistles when D'Antoni ran on the court. If they had Ted him up (as they should have) we would have had a soccer style riot on our hands.
TampaDude
05-17-2007, 09:16 AM
The Spurs have no right to complain about anything. The basketball gods hate the Spurs, they are like Satan. That is why they win, Satan is strong, but eventually he will get what he deserves, death and pain.
Satan? Doesn't he play for the Islanders??? :cooldevil
TampaDude
05-17-2007, 09:19 AM
Refs had to swallow their whistles when D'Antoni ran on the court. If they had Ted him up (as they should have) we would have had a soccer style riot on our hands.
As long as they save it for Game 6 and T up D'Antoni then, I'm happy...
MisterWhodat
05-17-2007, 09:22 AM
What about Nash diving into Duncan trying to tie the game up late, that was such a punk ass move, and he toe was on the line also...I'm tired of hearing what a champ Nash is
Lebowski Brickowski
05-17-2007, 09:24 AM
the Bell flop, the last one of four by my count, anyway, was laughable man, HA!
it was at least a full second after Manu touched him.
violentkitten
05-17-2007, 09:30 AM
And what did Manu say during his interview on national TV? The Suns can complain all they want, but it was a foul.
pretty much.
steppy
05-17-2007, 09:30 AM
the Bell flop, the last one of four by my count, anyway, was laughable man, HA!
it was at least a full second after Manu touched him.
When does that guy not fall down?
violentkitten
05-17-2007, 09:31 AM
What about Nash diving into Duncan trying to tie the game up late, that was such a punk ass move, and he toe was on the line also...I'm tired of hearing what a champ Nash is
yeah, i'm glad the ref saw through that one.
DarrinS
05-17-2007, 09:31 AM
I absolutely HATE this drama queen.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/pics/1228dantonibig-autosized158.jpg
But screw him and the refs How clutch was the 3 pointer Bruce made? Ironic that he's the one that his that shot.
violentkitten
05-17-2007, 09:32 AM
When does that guy not fall down?
when he's throwing 'bows and clotheslines. and also when he's helping to rescue those in peril with the united states coast guard.
violentkitten
05-17-2007, 09:33 AM
I absolutely HATE this drama queen.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/pics/1228dantonibig-autosized158.jpg
But screw him and the refs How clutch was the 3 pointer Bruce made? Ironic that he's the one that his that shot.
yeah no shit. i'm glad to know that an opposing coach can interrupt a successful inbound and force another attempt late in close playoff games without penalty. hoser suns strike again.
Rydia
05-17-2007, 09:34 AM
You're right -- it was totally unfair of Manu to use his special magnetic powers to cause Nash to fly up into the air and land on him. :lol :lol :lol :lol
greywheel
05-17-2007, 09:37 AM
As long as they save it for Game 6 and T up D'Antoni then, I'm happy...
Actually, I think the new rule is that the technical will be assessed at the start of the next regular season game.
MoSpur
05-17-2007, 09:37 AM
I really can't stand Coach Mike. He is such a wuss. I thought George Karl was bad.
gino>yourlife
05-17-2007, 09:40 AM
The Spurs got another dubious call, the 3 pointer by Manu where Nash was jumping to the side of him and Manu locked his arm around Nash's shoulder and pulled him down on top of him to draw a foul and the refs bought it. Nash pointed it out right when he got up and replays showed it clearly. I'd call that pretty dubious.
It's irrelevant anyway, the Suns probably deserved a few more "dubious" calls after being robbed of Amare.
no, it was quite clear that nash made full contact during the shot.. take your spurs hate blinders off
DampierAmGod
05-17-2007, 10:00 AM
no, it was quite clear that nash made full contact during the shot.. take your spurs hate blinders off
I want the Spurs to win the series, I hate the Suns. I just find it laughable that after the gift wrapped win the NBA gave the Spurs, some people want to bitch about fouls that didn't go SA's way or the lack of a technical foul because D'Antoni stepped on the court. Who cares? You essentially got the series handed to you, quit complaining.
DarrinS
05-17-2007, 10:08 AM
You essentially got the series handed to you, quit complaining.
This, coming from a Mavs fan, is histerical. :lol
phyzik
05-17-2007, 10:08 AM
I want the Spurs to win the series, I hate the Suns. I just find it laughable that after the gift wrapped win the NBA gave the Spurs, some people want to bitch about fouls that didn't go SA's way or the lack of a technical foul because D'Antoni stepped on the court. Who cares? You essentially got the series handed to you, quit complaining.
this is a discussion board last I checked.... and its a discussion board for the Spurs on top of that.... I think we can discuss what happened during the game, weather you precieve it as complaining or not.
hater
05-17-2007, 10:13 AM
I saw that shit!!! D'antoni is a fucking piece of shit.
He fucking ran on the court like a little poodle!!!!
Even Pop yelled at his ass, and D'antoni responded to Pop like "fuck you!"
finish them in 6
Frank Brickowski
05-17-2007, 10:18 AM
The reason he ran on the floor was because Tony Parker was all alone at the other end left unguarded. He knew that we could have essentially run the clock out. The sad thing is the refs let him get away with it.
violentkitten
05-17-2007, 10:21 AM
The reason he ran on the floor was because Tony Parker was all alone at the other end left unguarded. He knew that we could have essentially run the clock out. The sad thing is the refs let him get away with it.
that was a weak officiating crew. they let d'antoni escape without a t and were cajoled into calling the foul on bell's flop.
GrandeDavid
05-17-2007, 10:50 AM
I'm so sick of the Suns and their bitch ass whiny coach. I really hope we knock these guys out tomorrow night. I can't stand seeing D'Antoni's face any longer. No class whatsoever.
41times
05-17-2007, 10:53 AM
Spurs fans, as the great Ken Venturi used to say "you take your par and go quietly to the next hole"
SpurOutofTownFan
05-17-2007, 10:53 AM
You're right -- it was totally unfair of Manu to use his special magnetic powers to cause Nash to fly up into the air and land on him.
That will the the next Blaine's commercial.
"manu has magnets. and when he needs more magnets, he gets Nash"
FromWayDowntown
05-17-2007, 10:57 AM
I'm wearying of all this talk of "dubious" calls and microscopic review of officiating decisions. Nobody can ever prove that kind of thing objectively, because everyone comes to the situation with a bias of some sort. Even if one team did get the benefit of the whistle, what difference does it really make?
Teams don't win and lose games because of officiating -- make more baskets, get more rebounds, play better defense. Play the freakin' game. Play better than your opponent. Do that, and you'll win.
Man of Steel
05-17-2007, 11:08 AM
The refs totally bent over backwards and stuffed their faces into D and Toney's ASS last night.
Its a miracle we won. The refs MORE than made up for two players.
Cry Havoc
05-17-2007, 11:12 AM
That will the the next Blaine's commercial.
"manu has magnets. and when he needs more magnets, he gets Nash"
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao
AHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHA!
Flex9050
05-17-2007, 11:18 AM
I absolutely HATE this drama queen.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/pics/1228dantonibig-autosized158.jpg
But screw him and the refs How clutch was the 3 pointer Bruce made? Ironic that he's the one that his that shot.
What makes it even better is that Nash was sagging in the lane, hoping to try and pick up the charge on Tony. He left Bruce all alone in the corner and Bruce made them pay. Saw the same thing in game 3 with Finley. Blown defensive coverage letting us take the game. Thanks, Steve!!!! :clap
OldDirtMcGirt
05-17-2007, 11:19 AM
Honestly, I thought that this was the best reffed game of the entire series. Nothing really objectionable.
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