Which of these two player's number should be retired?

[picnroll]

Which of these two player's number should be retired by the Spurs? Not both, just one.

Avery Johnson
Bruce Bowen

[Kori Ellis]

:lol

I'm guessing the right answer should probably be both.

But right this second, Bowen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Avery in my eyes.

[exstatic]

Bowen, if it's only one.

[gaKNOW!blee]

yea, gotta go with Bowen.

[LuvBones]

Bruuuuuuuuce.

[BruceBowenFan]

Bruce Baby

[picnroll]

Would the Spurs have either of the titles, 2003 or 2005 without Bruce? Would they have advanced past the Suns and still have a shot at another title without Bowen? In my opinion what Bowen has given the Spurs and the crap he's taken it would be a grave injustice to not someday retire his number.

[shelshor]

Bruce

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Bowen all the way baby!

[bdictjames]

Bowen

[bdictjames]

Avery just had a "tainted" championship.

Bruce has 2 good ones.

[steppy]

12

[DarrinS]

My favorite player, Bruce "Ninja" Bowen. :fro

[makedamnsure]

Bowen!!! I don't know about Avery at all. His thing with the Mavs will always be an issue in my eyes

[peskypesky]

Bowen!!!!!!!!

[Dingle Barry]

Being the coach of the Mavs has nothing to do with the issue of his jersey being retired here. That would be an extremely childish way of making the decision in my opinion.

What I do consider pertinent is that he just wasn't very good. He hit one huge shot in the Finals (over my yelling at him to not shoot it which probably could be heard all the way in NYC) and was otherwise "solid" at best. Not worthy of retirement.

Bruce should be a shoo in.

[MajorMike]

In all honesty... if Sean's is retired then Bruce's should be. Sean hit 'the' shot and had a kidney transplant... but other than being popular that's about it. Bruce has been all world defender for several years.

[Obstructed_View]

Asking this when everyone is still in the Bowen afterglow is silly.

[rob5]

The Roach. He was the "leader" of our teams when he was here. Plus he went through more adversary.

[SA210]

Bruce Bowen #12.

[WalterBenitez]

Bruce and who is the oher man you are comparing? :nerd

[SpursIndonesia]

Bruce Bowen, no hesitation at all.

Avery's an influential player in DRob's era, but he didn't really help big Dave getting over the hump until TD's around. Bowen ? Spurs D in the post DRob era is characterized by his relentless effort night in and out, helping the team got 2 rings along the way. IMHO, Bruce's a much better teammate to boot -i don't really like in your face approach that Avery has been proud of in his time. Not to mention his willingness to sacrifice the $ for the better of the team, something i haven't seen from Avery as a Spur -correct me if i'm mistaken.

[NorCal510]

avery

[traitoravery]

TIM, AJ, TONY, BRUCE AND MANU They should all be retired when its said and done.

[timvp]

Bowen, no questions asked. Bowen might be the most underrated Spur of all-time. He's not as far away from Manu and Tony in terms as being valuable over the last five seasons as some would think.

[whottt]

My work here is done :smokin


Seriously though...Bruce is a HOF caliber defender...he's getting pretty close to holding the all time record for consecutive appearances on All NBA D teams by a perimeter player.


And he wasn't too shabby as a 3 point shooter.


Does anyone notice that Bruce is like a 90% shooter from 3 when his feet are set?

If his feet are set...that three is going in, if they aren't..it's not.

[Obstructed_View]

I loved AJ, but Mario Elie should have his jersey retired by the Spurs before AJ does if championships are what make the difference. AJ's shot in the finals was awesome, but only because it was such a rare thing for him to actually can a wide open 18 footer.

[ChumpDumper]

We might as well retire Vaughn's number for game 6.

[Texas_Ranger]

Bb#12

[Spurs Brazil]

both

[sa_butta]

Bruce has come up too big too often for us. Avery was good in '99 but prior to that he really was'nt the greatest of PG's for us. Bruce is more worthy in my eyes.

[Extra Stout]

neither

[SANANTOJAMES]

bowen

[howbouthemspurs]

Remember when it was just David Robinson, Avery Johnson, and Sean Elliot?... of course Avery Johnsons jersey should be retired next!

[mVp]

James White!

:smokin

[gospursgojas]

Remember when it was just David Robinson, Avery Johnson, and Sean Elliot?... of course Avery Johnsons jersey should be retired next!

Sure Avery led the team in the locker room but AJ's unathletic play and no jumpshoot cost the Spurs in those years....

No Bruce = No kobe stopper/3pt flurries in 03 & No Marion, Rip, Billups stopper in 05

#12 > #6

[SenorSpur]

Gots ta be Bowen!

[bigfan]

Bowen over AJ.