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rasho8
05-19-2007, 08:16 PM
Rules in the NBA

May 16th 2007 6:32PM
First, let me go on the record as saying that in the event that a vote comes up to change the rules about suspensions for players leaving the bench, I will vote against changing it.

Why ? Because its incredibly simple to educate players about the rule. Its a rule they fully understand and they understand the consequences of violating the rule. That makes the NBA stronger because it removes uncertainty. Can it result in a game(s) being impacted , yes. However, that impact results from an action a player knew violated the rules and was a mistake. There is no uncertainty about it. All they had to do was not leave the bench.

I actually think that more rules need to be iron clad like the "don't leave the bench rule". Whenever we can remove discretion in enforcement from the NBA the game is better for it.

Fans will hate the Suns not having Amare and Boris, but they all know the rule and recognize that the players knew it and fully understood it. What really gets fans, and me upset is when they can't understand how and why a rule is enforced.

When Jason Terry was suspended for throwing a punch last year, our only argument was whether or not he actually threw a punch. If he did, all involved, including Jason knew and understood what the punishment would be and why.

When Udonis Haslem got suspended a game for throwing a mouthpiece while lying on the ground, I didn't quite get that one. Fined for being mad at an official, that I understand all too well. The suspension I didn't.

When guys throw an elbow to the head or a knee to the groin or have a habit of stepping under a player as he lands, its far too difficult for officials and the league to gauge intent. Its pretty much impossibIe. I think we need to take a no leeway position and make both a flagrant 2 foul. Make it a no questions asked rule. Watch how quickly teams re educate players on how to close out on shooters and how quickly player behavior changes. Not by all, but those who can't probably are repeat offenders and deserve the penalty. A guy missing the rest of a game is a whole lot better than injuring a player and impacting his career.

It won't completely eliminate the need for the NBA to pass judgment on player intent and dish out punishment, but it will reduce the number of times they have to do it.


To make the job of enforcing all of this a little easier, I would like to propose something publicly that I have proposed privately but was shot down.

Allow officials, at their discretion, to use instant replay to review unsportsmanlike conduct or any action that could lead to a flagrant 2 foul.

This would be an important change not only to help get the play right, but also because it lets the punitive action for a bad act take place in the game it impacts. It would also make fans feel that the officials took the appropriate action based on the best information available. It can be incredibly frustrating to everyone at the game when a replay contradicts the best efforts of an official on a matter as serious as a Flagrant Foul.


Its not a cure, but it increases the chances of penalties being relative to the game in which the problem occurred. Plus, although it wouldn't eliminate the need for the league to take action on players, it would probably reduce the number of times they would be asked to take action over a players on court behavior.

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mikekim
05-19-2007, 08:26 PM
he started off well, faltered badly in the middle, and regained a little bit of steam at the end.

timvp
05-19-2007, 09:01 PM
Cuban had to be rooting hardcore for the Spurs. The worst case imaginable for Cuban was to get knocked out in the first round by the head coach he jettisoned and then watch the point guard he jettisoned win it all.

foodie2
05-19-2007, 09:05 PM
Cuban had to be rooting hardcore for the Spurs. The worst case imaginable for Cuban was to get knocked out in the first round by the head coach he jettisoned and then watch the point guard he jettisoned win it all.

What about when he watches Michael Finley win it all? THAT's gonna leave a mark. :lol

Clutch20
05-19-2007, 09:06 PM
Send him a case of bottled SA River water, and let's see him swallow :p:

Sec24Row7
05-19-2007, 09:08 PM
Simple... he's routing for the Jazz now...

King
05-19-2007, 09:23 PM
When guys throw an elbow to the head or a knee to the groin or have a habit of stepping under a player as he lands, its far too difficult for officials and the league to gauge intent.

Ha! That was obvious.

michaelwcho
05-19-2007, 09:48 PM
What about when he watches Michael Finley win it all? THAT's gonna leave a mark. :lol
I think he was cool with Finley. If I recall, he devoted a whole entry to talking about how it was one of the hardest decisions in his life to let Fin go...

Obstructed_View
05-20-2007, 02:47 AM
He found another way around to go after the Spurs. I actually hope they adopt the rule change he mentions. If they were going to call a flagrant 2 every time someone lands on someone's foot, there will be at least three ejections per game and they'll finally realize that Bowen isn't the only person that's ever had that happen. Also the TV stations will be really happy that games stretch out to over 2 1/2 hours because they are constantly going back to the monitors to check the contact.

Trainwreck2100
05-20-2007, 02:49 AM
He HAD to let Fin go, Nellie and Nash he wrote off. But he's probably rooting for the Jazz now

K-State Spur
05-20-2007, 02:55 AM
What about when he watches Michael Finley win it all? THAT's gonna leave a mark. :lol

While Finley is doing much more than just riding coattails, it's also not 'his' team like you would say with Nellie or Nash.

WalterBenitez
05-20-2007, 07:47 AM
Since we are talking about Cuban I feel comfortable making a stupid question, will he celebrate if Spurs got the Championship this year? since he's paying Mike's salary that would be great for CUban, at least any of his "employees" will be a Champ

greywheel
05-20-2007, 08:07 AM
He wants a flagrant 2 against a defender every time a shooter lands on their foot. Time to teach Beno to jump feet first.
We can also teach Vaughn to run into elbows every time he see someone clearing out after a rebound.

DarrinS
05-20-2007, 08:38 AM
Cuban had to be rooting hardcore for the Spurs. The worst case imaginable for Cuban was to get knocked out in the first round by the head coach he jettisoned and then watch the point guard he jettisoned win it all.


Finley is still in the hunt.

YoMamaIsCallin
05-20-2007, 08:45 AM
When guys throw an elbow to the head or a knee to the groin or have a habit of stepping under a player as he lands, its far too difficult for officials and the league to gauge intent. Its pretty much impossibIe. I think we need to take a no leeway position and make both a flagrant 2 foul.


let's see... elbow to the head, check... knee to the groin, check.. have a habit of stepping under a player ???

as they used to say on Sesame Street... one of these things is not like the other.

Pretty slick attempt by Cuban to run Bruce Bowen out of the league via rules changes.