4 years later who got the better deal?

[Fillmoe]

Clinton Portis for Champ Bailey.......

who got the better deal? Denver or Washington?

Im gonna go with Denver.... Champ Bailey is a shut down corner and the best in the league at his position.... Portis is doing pretty good himself.....

[scott]

Gotta go with Denver, since Washington still sucks.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Since we are talking about better deals.............who got the better deal out of this one: Eli Manning for Phillip Rivers, Nate Kaeding, and Giants 1st round pick (Merriman)?




:lmao

A.J. Smith RAPED the Giants.

[TheSanityAnnex]

And I voted for Denver.

[Mike Tirico]

http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20061016ho_mnf_450.jpg

[Horry For 3!]

Hard to find great Cornerbacks. So my answer would be: Denver.

[Mike Tirico]

http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20061016ho_mnf_450.jpg

[johnsmith]

Denver also was able to draft Tatum Bell in that deal and therefore was able to get Dre Bly.

So when it's all said and done, Denver got a hall of fame corner out of it, plus a pro-bowl caliber corner out of it.

[Mike Tirico]

http://www.suathletics.com/news/Football/2005/8/26/..%5C..%5C..%5C..%5C..%5Cimages/Football/2005%5C8%5C26%5Ctirico.jpg

[johnsmith]

Tirico troll is gay.

[John Patrick]

The only thing missing is a CB like Bailey for the Charger D.

I wouldnt have wanted to give up LT for Champ though.

[BUMP]

A.J. Smith RAPED the Giants.
no he didnt you guys still dont win in the playoffs, while im sure Eli is going to get to a superbowl in his career. sure he's off and on right now but he has much more potential than Rivers.

[johnsmith]

no he didnt you guys still dont win in the playoffs, while im sure Eli is going to get to a superbowl in his career. sure he's off and on right now but he has much more potential than Rivers.


I disagree. Rivers will be better then Eli. Eli has done nothing but take steps back in his career.

[leemajors]

I disagree. Rivers will be better then Eli. Eli has done nothing but take steps back in his career.
i wonder how much kevin gilbride may have to do with that.

[TheSanityAnnex]

sure he's off and on right now but he has much more potential than Rivers.That is laughable. I know I don't need to post any stats from last year to show you how much better Rivers was. And remember, it was only Rivers first year starting. Eli will never be anywhere near what his brother is, and I guarantee you Rivers gets a ring before Eli.

[TheSanityAnnex]

no he didnt you Turning Sheli into Rivers, Kaeding, Merriman, and Oben is about as raped as you can get. Again, Sheli for three pro-bowlers. Many experts said this is a trade that will go down as one of the best ever.

[DarkReign]

That is laughable. I know I don't need to post any stats from last year to show you how much better Rivers was. And remember, it was only Rivers first year starting. Eli will never be anywhere near what his brother is, and I guarantee you Rivers gets a ring before Eli.

:tu

Eli Sucks. Period.

[BUMP]

Eli will never be anywhere near what his brother is

i doubt it too, the reason i think he will be better than Rivers is a couple of reasons. he has the genes in the family obviously, he has better mechanics, his quarterback coach in college coached Peyton and a couple of other greats, and i know the Giants are willing to build around him more than the Chargers will build around Rivers

and I guarantee you Rivers gets a ring before Eli.

if Rivers goes to another team and serves as a backup, i can see to that

[BUMP]

as far as the original quiestion, you have to say Denver. they improved to a playoff team once they signed him, and he has established himself as the best CB in the game. Portis has had his up and downs, with a great 2005 season, but the Skins keep stinking it up. plus his injury last year didnt help

[Burn531]

and i know the Giants are willing to build around him more than the Chargers will build around Rivers




The Chargers are already built. Plus the Chargers won last year in the AFC compared to the NFC.

[BUMP]

The Chargers are already built.
i still think they need a playmaking receiver of some sort to get where they need to go. LoNeal is getting older and they lost Donnie Edwards on defense. him and Merriman were the two big playmakers on D

[Fillmoe]

i hate eli manning..... but i hate the chargers even more...... both teams suck and will never amount to shit........ on that note....... LT >>>>>>>>>>>> SD..... get that cat in a better uniform please!

[TheSanityAnnex]

i doubt it too, the reason i think he will be better than Rivers is a couple of reasons. he has the genes in the family obviously, he has better mechanics, his quarterback coach in college coached Peyton and a couple of other greatsFuck mechanics, look at the stats. Rivers is leagues above him and always has been. Compare their college careers too if you wish. I have to question anyone who has a hard-on for Eli Manning.

[TheSanityAnnex]

i still think they need a playmaking receiver of some sort to get where they need to go. LoNeal is getting older and they lost Donnie Edwards on defense. him and Merriman were the two big playmakers on DVincent Jackson and Malcom Floyd will surprise a lot of people this year, look for breakout seasons from both. Craig Davis will allow the Chargers to spread the field as well. LoNeal is old, but still dominant. Donnie Edwards was great in coverage, and that was it. He is replaced easily with the plethora of linebackers the Chargers have compiled. If the Chargers don't make the Superbowl this year, I'll be baffled.

[StylisticS]

You're counting on Norval to take you to the superbowl? LOL

[Fillmoe]

chargers wont make the superbowl........

[TheSanityAnnex]

You're counting on Norval to take you to the superbowl? LOLNo, I'm simply counting on the most talented team in the league to make the Superbowl.

[Ignorant Spurs fan]

Donnie Edwards is replaced easily
i'd have to question that

[TheSanityAnnex]

i'd have to question thatGo ahead, question it. I've watched his terrible run defense for quite some time now and am pleased I don't have to watch him holding on to a RB's ankle being dragged around. The guy is old and bitched about his contract the last two years, fuck him.

[dallaskd]

Portis has been injured too much.

[StylisticS]

No, I'm simply counting on the most talented team in the league to make the Superbowl.

"one" of the most talented teams. And good luck with that considering Norval is your head coach.

[dallaskd]

Since we are talking about better deals.............who got the better deal out of this one: Eli Manning for Phillip Rivers, Nate Kaeding, and Giants 1st round pick (Merriman)?




:lmao

A.J. Smith RAPED the Giants.

Nate Kaeding sucks dick

[TheSanityAnnex]

Nate Kaeding sucks dickExpand please, the stats and pro bowl selection say otherwise.

[Fillmoe]

his choke jobs in the real game say otherwise

[Erect as a Bull]

his choke jobs in the real game say otherwise

:lol

I know.
Hes not clutch at all.

and I was pissed trading Portis but I'm happy now in the end.

Getting Champ and Dre is a winning Combo :)

[TheSanityAnnex]

his choke jobs in the real game say otherwiseThe Jets miss in the playoffs three years ago I'll agree, but last year in New England, please.

[Erect as a Bull]

The Jets miss in the playoffs three years ago I'll agree, but last year in New England, please.

He choked in the Pats game too.

Looks like the only team that can really beat the Pats is Denver :)

Colts have won 3 in a row I think against them so thier getting there as well.

[TheSanityAnnex]

He choked in the Pats game too.

Looks like the only team that can really beat the Pats is Denver :)

Colts have won 3 in a row I think against them so thier getting there as well.Choked in the Pats game? It was like a 55 yarder, hardly choking.

[TheTruth]

as far as the original quiestion, you have to say Denver. they improved to a playoff team once they signed him, and he has established himself as the best CB in the game. Portis has had his up and downs, with a great 2005 season, but the Skins keep stinking it up. plus his injury last year didnt help
The Broncos were a playoff team before the trade. They haven't won a SB with either player, so he gives a fuck right now.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Washing Tong :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

no he didnt you guys still dont win in the playoffs, while im sure Eli is going to get to a superbowl in his career. sure he's off and on right now but he has much more potential than Rivers.
:lmao

Look what his GM has to say about him.

:lmao

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-1-118/Giants-tell-Eli-to-keep-his-chin-up.html

Giants tell Eli to keep his chin up (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-1-118/Giants-tell-Eli-to-keep-his-chin-up.html) http://assets.espn.go.com/profile/i/trans/icon_report_hi.gif (http://myespn.go.com/profile/violation?ou=hashmarksadmin&at=7&vid=1181933457699)

June 15, 2007 2:50 PM

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0615/nfl_u_eli_195.jpgOne of the things that drives Giants fans nuts about Eli Manning is that he always seems on the verge of offering someone an apology. And during an exclusive interview with Hashmarks, Giants general manager Jerry Reese said it's something the Giants have talked to Manning about this offseason.

"Guys have to be themselves," said Reese, "but we've talked to him about that hang dog look. It's not a good profile and it's exaggerated by this market. Just like the cameras are always going to find Tom when he has some kind of sideline antic, everyone's looking at Eli. He sort of views himself as a silent assassin, and he'd rather his teammates get the credit. But I think you'll see a little different demeanor from him this season."

Listening to Reese, who comes across as almost shockingly unassuming, lets you know how this is truly a make-or-break season for Manning. He seems to play his best in two-minute situations, when he has to rely on his instincts. I watched him make some great throws today, but I've just never sensed that he's the type of person capable of inspiring confidence in his teammates. You don't have to be a rah-rah guy to command respect.

But it scares me when I start hearing people talk about changing a guy's demeanor.

[dallaskd]

'Boys in 07-08

[Erect as a Bull]

Choked in the Pats game? It was like a 55 yarder, hardly choking.

If it was Viniteri he would have made it :lol

But then again Adam is clutch something Nate isnt :(

If that 55 yarder was in the first qtr Nate probably would have made it
To bad it was in the 4th :lol

[GAYTRAIN]

That is laughable. I know I don't need to post any stats from last year to show you how much better Rivers was. And remember, it was only Rivers first year starting. Eli will never be anywhere near what his brother is, and I guarantee you Rivers gets a ring before Eli.
Good call.

[IronMexican]

Since we are talking about better deals.............who got the better deal out of this one: Eli Manning for Phillip Rivers, Nate Kaeding, and Giants 1st round pick (Merriman)?




:lmao

A.J. Smith RAPED the Giants.

:lmao

[vander]

talk about worst SB ever for us Charger Fans :bang either the hated Pats or the hated Eli Manning :bang:bang

only SB in the last 17 years I didn't watch

[dirk4mvp]

Where's TSA?