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manubili
05-21-2007, 08:13 AM
No, I'm not on drugs.

I remembered pretty well all the sick lay ups, dunks and the reckless attitude. I have every 2005 Manu's videos I could get. But those methaphores we used to describe Manu as "insane", "maniac", "sick", "crazy", became literal when he got injured several times in 2006.

Manu has struggled to change his style and to keep on being one of the three main point contributors of the team, at the same time. He HAS TO keep himself safe in order to achieve another championship, and even most important: to be able to keep on playing for many more years.

So yes, 2007 Manu >> 2005 Manu. It won't be shawn on the highlights reel, not even in the stats sheet. But, hopefully, it would be proved in rings and many more seasons to come.

So, let's get another ring, so I won't look like a fool in the following weeks.

ObiwanGinobili
05-21-2007, 08:17 AM
I really like when things are shown on highlight reels.


and I love living in the age of Manu. thats some sick BBall right there. :spin

Ginofan
05-21-2007, 08:23 AM
Ehh. I still think you're on crack. :lol

Sorry but Manu in 05 was way better, maybe not smarter, but he played without fear...that's what made him so good. I suppose the injuries in 2006 caused to be a bit more cautious when taking it to the hoop...but that should've made him perfect his jumpshot. Instead we had him clanging the mid range ones early in the playoffs, he couldn't make a bucket even if his life depended on it. Whether he was just in a slump or whatever that shouldn't happen if you're not going to go to the hoop you need to be great at whatever else you're going to try.

I'm one of his biggest fans, but I have to say 05>07.

MaNuMaNiAc
05-21-2007, 08:24 AM
Well, at least the 2007 Manu of the past 3 games. I don't know about the one from the rest of these playoffs.

ducks
05-21-2007, 08:34 AM
get with me after the finals

if he is he should really thank marion for that elbow in the eye

WalterBenitez
05-21-2007, 08:37 AM
I won't say you are on crack without further info :smokin , but about Manu he looks like impressive as he was in 2005, besides that he's mora mature and the corporate knowledge that the team has about him is superior.

Manu's inconsistency (in term of scoring) is somethig that makes me crazy, but at the end (like POP says) Manu make a lot of things on the court, that's why he's Manu.

BigBeezie
05-21-2007, 09:20 AM
I loved the was he played in 2005. The guy could simply take over games and change the outcome within 10 minutes or so. It was amazing to watch. The way he closed out Detroit in 2005, game 7 was so much fun to watch.

I think in 2007 that he is slowly but surely coming back to form. Manu is one of the great talents of the last few years...so it is exciting to watch him find his game again.

Sec24Row7
05-21-2007, 09:27 AM
ESPN should really just bill the Spurs as Manu and Tony's team because they are "Exciting"... they just also happen to play with the best player of his generation...

TMTTRIO
05-21-2007, 09:32 AM
I have to admit I miss how at Tip-Off Manu gets the ball right away and rushes to the basket and scores right away

Typical London Boy
05-21-2007, 09:39 AM
I was thinking this at one stage during the game last night. Glad i'm not the only one who feels this way.

Yes, he's not as consistent as before, but on his best day he's better than he was in 2005.

Mavs<Spurs
05-21-2007, 09:41 AM
Ehh. I still think you're on crack. :lol

Sorry but Manu in 05 was way better, maybe not smarter, but he played without fear...that's what made him so good. I suppose the injuries in 2006 caused to be a bit more cautious when taking it to the hoop...but that should've made him perfect his jumpshot. Instead we had him clanging the mid range ones early in the playoffs, he couldn't make a bucket even if his life depended on it. Whether he was just in a slump or whatever that shouldn't happen if you're not going to go to the hoop you need to be great at whatever else you're going to try.

I'm one of his biggest fans, but I have to say 05>07.


Same opinion here.

However, if he keeps playing like he has in the last 3 games, then I will change my mind.

But he had played overall better in the 05 playoffs up to this point than he has so far up to this point in the 07 playoffs, imo, as I remember it.

We'll see.

aaronstampler
05-21-2007, 10:19 AM
Regular Season 2007 Manu > 2005 Manu
Playoffs 2005 Manu > 2007 Manu

I don't think he'll ever top the '05 postseason. He had like a 30 PER in those playoffs. He was playing out of his mind.

Jimcs50
05-21-2007, 10:33 AM
The 05 Manu had much more hair.

Sportman
05-21-2007, 11:44 AM
Taken from manuginobili.com

:clap :clap :clap :clap

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7529/mgun3.jpg

powerpower
05-21-2007, 12:55 PM
Taken from manuginobili.com

:clap :clap :clap :clap

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7529/mgun3.jpg



where is that at?

Boulevard1
05-21-2007, 12:59 PM
That's Jordan's statue with a photoshopped Manu head. It's spelled "Emmanuel" by the way.

manubili
05-21-2007, 12:59 PM
where is that at?

:lol I think it's a niece piece of photoshop work. But someday...

DDS4
05-21-2007, 01:00 PM
I hope he doesn't fall in love with the 3 point shot. It seems like he has more attempts this year than years past.

It's sweet when he makes it, but I think it takes away some of his aggressiveness towards the bucket.

As long as he cuts down on the TO's (i.e., those two dumb turnovers towards TP during the 4th quarter of the Phoenix series), he's all good.

Sportman
05-21-2007, 01:05 PM
It's spelled "Emmanuel" by the way.

Excuse me???...that is ABSOLUTELY wrong!!!

Boulevard1
05-21-2007, 01:06 PM
Sorry, his website has it listed as "Emanuel" but everywhere else I've seen it, it's been with two "m"s. My bad.

BeerIsGood!
05-21-2007, 01:11 PM
Emmanuel?? Isn't that the woman from the 70's soft core movies?


If Manu, TP, and TD keep up their level of performances it takes all of the pressure off of guys like Finley, Oberto, and Horry and makes it almost impossible to beat the Spurs. I like the way they're playing.

Sportman
05-21-2007, 01:14 PM
Emmanuel?? Isn't that the woman from the 70's soft core movies?

I should ask my right hand :lol

ducks
05-21-2007, 01:15 PM
manu shows up 3 games on shotting out of 6 games against suns
shoots terrible agains nuggets
3 out of 11 games wow
yesterday he had a good gaem
4 out of 12

I think 2005 he was better
but get back to me after the playoffs are over

Alamode
05-21-2007, 01:35 PM
2007 Manu,

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0095016/DHscan10.jpg


Welcome to the party, pal.


Nice to see you again. Grab a basketball and stick around for a while.

bdictjames
05-21-2007, 01:36 PM
Its spelled with one m.

Alamode, great pic of Manu. The red X is perfect.

powerpower
05-21-2007, 01:37 PM
manu shows up 3 games on shotting out of 6 games against suns
shoots terrible agains nuggets
3 out of 11 games wow
yesterday he had a good gaem
4 out of 12

I think 2005 he was better
but get back to me after the playoffs are over

Stop bugging us man…so we like manu….and you don’t , so just get the hell out ….go talk about TP somewhere else…..
We now are happy because our favourite player is playing well….so we praise him….so don’t ruin it for us….
:pctoss

timvp
05-21-2007, 01:44 PM
Offensively in the 2005 playoffs, Manu played at a level that few guards in the history of the NBA ever played at.

Manu has played a really good last five halves of basketball. If he can keep it up, he still has time for a second legendary playoff run.

ducks
05-21-2007, 01:52 PM
Stop bugging us man…so we like manu….and you don’t , so just get the hell out ….go talk about TP somewhere else…..
We now are happy because our favourite player is playing well….so we praise him….so don’t ruin it for us….
:pctoss


he could be greater 2007 then 2005
right now I do not think so
aarron thinks he averaged around 30 points a game in 2005
he is not in 2007 so far

manubili
05-21-2007, 02:03 PM
I think some of you don't get it. My fault.

I mean that the best thing for Manu is NOT playing like he did in 2005. No, i'm not on drugs, not the heavy ones at least. The old Manu hasn't come back, is a new Manu what we needed, and what he seems to be, according to the last five games.

He has change his style in order to rely more on his jumper, and to penetrate in a safer way. The last thing we want is Manu to get injured. And playing insanely like he did in the 2005 is just too dangerous for him, and the whole spurs team and fans.

If he manages to keep his numbers up, with his new style, he would be only greater than before to my eyes. So, that's why, IMO, 2007 Manu > 2005 Manu. The same numbers, not so flashy, but way more reliable in the long term.

SpurOutofTownFan
05-21-2007, 02:48 PM
You also have to consider many people wasn't counting on Manu back in 2005 and teams didn't have a real approach on him until later on. Now every team that faces the Spurs have somebody guard him religiously and attempt to break down his game as part of their game plan. Manu on the loose picks you apart to no recover.

aaronstampler
05-21-2007, 03:39 PM
he could be greater 2007 then 2005
right now I do not think so
aarron thinks he averaged around 30 points a game in 2005
he is not in 2007 so far

I never said he averaged 30, I said his PER was 30. John Hollinger, ever heard of him?

ArgSpursFan
05-21-2007, 03:44 PM
No, I'm not on drugs.

I remembered pretty well all the sick lay ups, dunks and the reckless attitude. I have every 2005 Manu's videos I could get. But those methaphores we used to describe Manu as "insane", "maniac", "sick", "crazy", became literal when he got injured several times in 2006.

Manu has struggled to change his style and to keep on being one of the three main point contributors of the team, at the same time. He HAS TO keep himself safe in order to achieve another championship, and even most important: to be able to keep on playing for many more years.

So yes, 2007 Manu >> 2005 Manu. It won't be shawn on the highlights reel, not even in the stats sheet. But, hopefully, it would be proved in rings and many more seasons to come.

So, let's get another ring, so I won't look like a fool in the following weeks.

Actually,it does show in the stats sheet.He is getting more rebounds asists ans steals tham the 2005 playoffs.

nkdlunch
05-21-2007, 04:02 PM
2005 manu > 2007 manu > 2006 manu > 2004 manu > 2003 manu

in 2005 playoffs manu carried the entire team for entire games.

aaronstampler
05-21-2007, 04:04 PM
In the '05 playoffs, if you add up his BARPS (blocks, assists, rebounds, points, steals) Manu's total comes out to 32.3.

This year it's 28.9. The difference is pretty much just the points, 20.3 in '05 to 16.4 this year.

Plus he shot 50% from the field and over 40% in threes that year

smeagol
05-21-2007, 04:28 PM
I never said he averaged 30, I said his PER was 30. John Hollinger, ever heard of him?
It's ducks you're talking to, remember?

You need to be more patient.