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naico
05-21-2007, 09:52 AM
Who would you pick if you good make a team consisting of the best players ever to play in the nba/aba? I know it's difficult comparing players over the years, but what the hell..

here's mine:

C: Bill Russel (Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem)
PF: Tim Duncan (Karl Malone, Moses Malone)
SF: Oscar robertson (Elgin Baylor, Larry Bird)
SG: Michael Jordan (George Gervin, Julius Erving)
PG: Magic Johnson (John Stockton, Walt Frazier)

BobcatsDynasty
05-21-2007, 10:26 AM
C - Emeka Okafor
PF - Sean May
SF - Adam Morrison
SG - Gerald Wallace
PG - Raymond Felton

everyone else is a fluke.

resistanze
05-21-2007, 10:32 AM
C: Wilt Chamberlain (Kareem, Shaq)
PF: Tim Duncan (Karl Malone, Charles Barkley)
SF: Scottie Pippen (Larry Bird, Elgin Baylor)
SG: Michael Jordan (Kobe Bryant, Clyde Drexler)
PG: Magic Johnson (Oscar Robertson, Isiah Thomas)

101A
05-21-2007, 11:42 AM
12 Man Roster:

Shaq (Russell)
Duncan (Hakeem)
Michael,(Kobe, Wade)
Magic (Isiah)
Bird (Dr. J, Scottie)

Only champions need apply

SRJ
05-21-2007, 11:43 AM
C: Brad Daugherty, Wayne Embry, Joe Barry Carroll
PF: Gus Johnson, Orlando Woolridge, Joe Smith
SF: Xavier McDaniel, Bryon Russell, Don Nelson
SG: Sam Jones, Reggie Theus, Tony Campbell
PG: Norm Nixon, Mookie Blaylock, Ernie DeGregorio
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OK, seriously:

C: Chamberlain, Jabbar, Hakeem
PF: Duncan, K. Malone, Hayes
SF: Bird, Erving, Pippen
SG: Jordan, Bryant, West
PG: Robertson, Magic, Stockton

Medvedenko
05-21-2007, 11:48 AM
Kareem (Shaq,Wilt)
Duncan (Barkley, K, Malone)
Bird (Julius, Lebron)
Jordan (Kobe, Pistol Pete)
Magic (Kidd, Oscar Robertson)

bdictjames
05-21-2007, 12:59 PM
C: Wilt (Shaq, Kareem)
PF: Timmy (Malone, Charles)
SF: Bird (Pippen, Erving)
SG: Jordan (Kobe, Nique)
PG: Magic (Stockton, Thomas)

MrChug
05-21-2007, 01:21 PM
Hakeem
Duncan
Bird
Jordan
Nash...yes, Steve Nash (maybe Magic)

BUMP
05-21-2007, 01:39 PM
Wilt
Ducan
Bird
Jordan
Cousy

cornbread
05-21-2007, 03:04 PM
Shaq
Duncan
Bird
Jordan
Stockton

schadenfreude52
05-21-2007, 03:13 PM
C: Wilt Chamberlain
PF: Karl Malone
SF: Larry Bird
SG: Michael Jordan
PG: Steve Nash

Sorry DWade, you're not in my five.

Magic_Johnson
05-21-2007, 03:15 PM
hakeem
duncan
bird
jordan
magic (or beno I'm not sure)

naico
05-21-2007, 03:24 PM
no love for Bill Russel apparently..how come?not good enough?Or hakeem,shaq,wilt, kareem are just better? what are the arguments here?

~~Ice Man 2000~~
05-21-2007, 03:28 PM
PG- Jayson Williams
SG- Harlod Minor
SF- Lebron James
PF Kwame
Center-Candy Man
I know candy and kwame are both center but I want a twin towers thing going on. Also with this line up I don't need a bench.

Spurminator
05-21-2007, 03:30 PM
Shaq could never co-exist with these teammates.

Leetonidas
05-21-2007, 05:07 PM
C: Hakeem Olajuwon (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain)
PF: Tim Duncan (Karl Malone, Kevin Garnett)
SF: Larry Bird (Julius Erving, Oscar Robertson)
SG: Michael Jordan (George Gervin, Kobe Bryant)
PG: Magic Johnson (Steve Nash, Isiah Thomas)

jacobdrj
05-21-2007, 05:11 PM
I can't comment on all time.
So just since 1996

Jordan
Duncan
Shaq
Stockton
KG

Best of the Rest

Kobe
Jason Kidd
Shawn Kemp
Reggie Miller
Dennis Rodman
Paul Perce
D Wade
Dirk
Ewing
Malone

~~Ice Man 2000~~
05-21-2007, 05:36 PM
No Iverson?

jacobdrj
05-21-2007, 05:43 PM
Nope.

AnkleBreaker21
05-21-2007, 05:47 PM
shaq
duncan
bird
jordan
magic

JamStone
05-21-2007, 05:55 PM
Magic was my favorite player growing up, but I'm going to go with O.


Oscar Robertson
Michael Jordan
LeBron James
Tim Duncan
Bill Russell

Bob Lanier
05-21-2007, 05:58 PM
John Stockton
Michael Jordan
Julius Erving
Hakeem Olajuwon
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

LakeShow
05-21-2007, 06:00 PM
Magic
Jordan
Wilt
Hakeem
Bird

BradLohaus
05-21-2007, 06:05 PM
C Bill Russell (Chamberlin, Shaq)
PF Tim Duncan (Bob Petit)
SF Larry Bird (Elgin Baylor, Jerry West)
SG Michael Jordan (Oscar Robertson)
PG Magic Johnson (John Stockton)

picnroll
05-21-2007, 06:44 PM
No Iverson?
Towel boy.

stretch
05-21-2007, 10:27 PM
PG - Nash
SG - Jordan
SF - Bird
PF - Duncan
C - Shaq

baseline bum
05-21-2007, 10:33 PM
C Hakeem Olajuwon
F Tim Duncan
F Larry Bird
G Michael Jordan
G Magic Johnson

F Charles Barkley
C Bill Russell
C Bill Walton (healthy :lol )
G John Stockton
F Scottie Pippen
G Dennis Johnson
G Reggie Miller

Team players at every position. Monster rebounding with Olajuwon, Duncan, Bird, Magic, Barkley, Russell, and Walton. Great passing with Bird, Magic, Walton, and Stockton. Three point shooting with Bird, Stockton, and Miller. Lockdown defense with Olajuwon, Duncan, Jordan, Pippen, and DJ.

shelshor
05-22-2007, 12:05 PM
G-World B Free, Jason Terry
F-Cherokee Parks, Christian Laetner
C-Mel Counts, Tom Kite

But seriously:
All Time-
C-Bill Russell
PG-Bob Cousy
SG-Oscar Robertson
PF-Tim Duncan
SF-Elgin Baylor

Bench-
C-Hakeem Olajuwon
PG-Tiny Archibald
SG-Jerry West, George Gervin
SF-John Havlicek, Larry Bird
PF-Moses Malone

IR-
Pete Maravich
David Robinson
Dennis Johnson

Head Coach-Red Auerbach
Assistants-Gregg Popovich, Bill Sharman, Jerry Sloan

Announcers--Chick Hearn, Johnny Most, Sean Elliott

peskypesky
05-22-2007, 12:29 PM
PG - Magic Johnson (Isiah Thomas)
SG - Michael Jordan (Oscar Robertson)
SF - Elgin Baylor (Larry Bird)
PF - Tim Duncan (Dennis Rodman)
C - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Wilt Chamberlain)

peskypesky
05-22-2007, 12:31 PM
all you people forgetting Isiah Thomas oughtta check out his career stats and 2 Championship rings.

http://www.nba.com/history/players/thomas_stats.html

Nash (and Stockton) my ass!

peskypesky
05-22-2007, 12:35 PM
magic (or beno I'm not sure)

lmao!! you almost made me piss myself! :)

DarkReign
05-22-2007, 01:02 PM
PG: Isiah Thomas
SG: Guess...
SF: Larry Bird
PF: TD
C: Shaq circa. 1999

This is a really stupid question. The variance in selection is going to be minimal.

DarkReign
05-22-2007, 01:05 PM
C Hakeem Olajuwon
F Tim Duncan
F Larry Bird
G Michael Jordan
G Magic Johnson

F Charles Barkley
C Bill Russell
C Bill Walton (healthy :lol )
G John Stockton
F Scottie Pippen
G Dennis Johnson
G Reggie Miller

Team players at every position. Monster rebounding with Olajuwon, Duncan, Bird, Magic, Barkley, Russell, and Walton. Great passing with Bird, Magic, Walton, and Stockton. Three point shooting with Bird, Stockton, and Miller. Lockdown defense with Olajuwon, Duncan, Jordan, Pippen, and DJ.

...and then I was proven wrong.

This team owns.

peskypesky
05-22-2007, 03:34 PM
looked at them.

he isn't even close to stockton in longevity.

19/9 career average
13/10 career average while averaging close to half the shots (per season)

stockton > thomas


hmm, so longevity beats out Championships...and fewer points beats out more points...interesting.

JamStone
05-22-2007, 04:00 PM
CAREER PLAYOFF NUMBERS


John Stockton (182 games)

13.4 ppg
10.1 apg
3.3 rpg
47% FG
33% 3PT
81% FT
team record in the playoffs: 89-93 (.489)

Isiah Thomas (111 games)

20.4 ppg
8.9 apg
4.7 rpg
44% FG
35% 3PT
77% FT
team record in the playoffs: 69-42 (.622)

peskypesky
05-22-2007, 04:19 PM
CAREER PLAYOFF NUMBERS


John Stockton (182 games)

13.4 ppg
10.1 apg
3.3 rpg
47% FG
33% 3PT
81% FT
team record in the playoffs: 89-93 (.489)

Isiah Thomas (111 games)

20.4 ppg
8.9 apg
4.7 rpg
44% FG
35% 3PT
77% FT
team record in the playoffs: 69-42 (.622)

I think the two Championships has got to count for something too, but then again, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Championships aren't all that.

dg7md
05-22-2007, 04:22 PM
Two time MVP Nash not even a candidate for these teams. :lmao

I think Kobe deserves a spot on an all-time team. Maybe not yet, but by his career is over definitely.

peskypesky
05-22-2007, 04:30 PM
Two time MVP Nash not even a candidate for these teams. :lmao

I think Kobe deserves a spot on an all-time team. Maybe not yet, but by his career is over definitely.

Nope. First, because if he hadn't been lucky enough to play with Shaq, he'd have no rings. Second, he hasn't shown that he's able to make his team-mates better on a consistent basis.

I don't want him on my all-time team.

NorCalJazzFan
05-22-2007, 05:20 PM
Easy.

PG- Stockton, Magic
SG Jordan, Erving
SF Bird, Baylor
PF K Malone, Mosse Malone
C- Wilt, Bill Russel

I am building my team on the abilty to play together, I dont want a shooter at the PG, I want someone to distribute the ball....sorry zeke

JamStone
05-22-2007, 05:27 PM
Easy.

PG- Stockton, Magic
SG Jordan, Erving
SF Bird, Baylor
PF K Malone, Mosse Malone
C- Wilt, Bill Russel

I am building my team on the abilty to play together, I dont want a shooter at the PG, I want someone to distribute the ball....sorry zeke


LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Not only do you start Karl Malone over Tim Duncan, you don't even put Duncan as the back-up???? A player that only played "center" in Moses Malone a better option as a back-up power forward over the best PF in the history of the league?

Stockton over Magic is also very amusing.

mardigan
05-22-2007, 05:28 PM
C-Shaq, Kareem
PF-Timmy, Bird
Sf-Dr J., Nique
Sg-MJ, Iceman
Pg-Magic, Nash

resistanze
05-22-2007, 05:39 PM
Easy.

PG- Stockton, Magic
SG Jordan, Erving
SF Bird, Baylor
PF K Malone, Mosse Malone
C- Wilt, Bill Russel

I am building my team on the abilty to play together, I dont want a shooter at the PG, I want someone to distribute the ball....sorry zeke
Even a better lineup...

PG- Stockton, Deron Williams
SG Hornacek, Anderson
SF Byron Russel, Anderson
PF K Malone, Boozer
C- Ostertag, Okur

:toast

BradLohaus
05-22-2007, 05:46 PM
I chose Stockton as backup PG over Isaiah because Stockton doesn't need shots and finding enough shots to go around on these teams could be a problem.

Remember the "Jordan Rules"? Isaiah would disrupt this team's chemistry. How are Jordan and Thomas going to co-exist if they're both on the court? You've got to consider these things.

Jordan kept Isaiah off the original Dream Team.

JamStone
05-22-2007, 05:56 PM
I chose Stockton as backup PG over Isaiah because Stockton doesn't need shots and finding enough shots to go around on these teams could be a problem.

Remember the "Jordan Rules"? Isaiah would disrupt this team's chemistry. How are Jordan and Thomas going to co-exist if they're both on the court? You've got to consider these things.

Jordan kept Isaiah off the original Dream Team.


You do know they're not really going to suit up and play together, right?

:ihit

stretch
05-22-2007, 06:01 PM
Nash does exactly what a PG needs to be able to do. Shoot, and pass. he is one of the best passers the game has ever seen, and is also one of the best shooters the game has ever seen. he is incredibly clutch, and is arguably the best offensive PG of all time. not many PGs can shoot, penetrate, finish, pass, etc... the way Nash can. he may be a defensive liability, but with Jordan, Bird, Duncan, and Shaq, that wont be a problem at all.

Nash would be a PERFECT fit for a guy like Jordan too. I dont think there could be a better fit at PG for Jordan than Steve Nash.

Hook Dem
05-22-2007, 06:38 PM
It's obvious that most of you never saw Dr. J play! That means you weren't alive then. You shoulda seen it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :depressed

stretch
05-22-2007, 06:46 PM
Dr. J was awesome, but not many players had the clutch ability, work ethic, and most importantly, the will to win that Larry Bird had.

naico
05-23-2007, 08:26 AM
rick barry sharing the same thought: think he said somethin' like: "he's the best PF in the history of basketball, if you would look at an all-time starting 5, Duncan would take the PF spot for sure"

mikejones99
05-23-2007, 09:20 AM
You should count the ABA and that means Erving has to be there and Rick barry was great too. Both averaged over 30 a game there.

JamStone
05-23-2007, 09:43 AM
big bonus for thomas winning two rings, stockton failed at that aspect. I just think that overall, between these guys, stockton was the better player.

stockton shot over 50% for his career, that is sick for a point guard. His game was nothing like parker's, he didn't spend much time in the paint.

It was unforunate he had to play with one of the biggest chockers of all time. Give him Barkley or Mchale and he wins at least once.


Over 50% from the field in his regular season career. Look at his playoff FG is under 50%, at 47%. Isiah Thomas' playoff FG% is not far behind at 44%. And, Isiah even shot better from 3PT range than Stockton when it was the playoffs. Stockton's shooting numbers went down in the playoffs. Isiah Thomas' shooting numbers went up in the playoffs. Just shows you when they played against better defense and the pressure was on, what kind of player each was. Isiah Thomas had another level he went to in the playoffs.

Stockton was not a better player than Isiah Thomas. He played longer. He didn't like to shoot so he passed it all the time, so he has better assist numbers. Isiah was a better player.

peskypesky
05-23-2007, 10:24 AM
Stockton was not a better player than Isiah Thomas.... Isiah was a better player.


And Isiah is a helluva General Manager! lol

:blah

I live in NYC, so I know....

JamStone
05-23-2007, 10:30 AM
well at least he's good at evaluating talent in drafts. he's made horrible free agent signings with the MLE. i think the knicks have talent, just not good chemistry or direction. they also need to get a better conditioning program and better trainers to help avoid certain avoidable injuries. they still got a ways to go, but they do have talent on that team.

peskypesky
05-23-2007, 10:48 AM
well at least he's good at evaluating talent in drafts. he's made horrible free agent signings with the MLE. i think the knicks have talent, just not good chemistry or direction. they also need to get a better conditioning program and better trainers to help avoid certain avoidable injuries. they still got a ways to go, but they do have talent on that team.

Ummmm.....do you have any idea what the Knicks' payroll is? Check this out and then get back to me about Isiah's management skills.

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

TDMVPDPOY
05-23-2007, 12:09 PM
td
td
td
td
td

ftw

JamStone
05-23-2007, 12:30 PM
Ummmm.....do you have any idea what the Knicks' payroll is? Check this out and then get back to me about Isiah's management skills.

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm


show me the payroll under layden when isiah took over, compare, then get back at me. isiah was hamstrung with what he had to work with. dolan allowed him to make deals by adding more longterm salaries in order to try to get better. he did so. it's a mess financiallly. isiah is to be blame for that, but it's not entirely his fault. and, my point was not that he is a good president. my point was that his roster has talent.