Spurs facing another non-sellout

[MadDog73]

I agree. But honestly from what i can sqeak out of him (he never really gets into talking business much) is that his main focus at least is on the corporate clients. Now that is not to say people under him aren't more intuned to the every day sports fan, but man LP has some insane stories about whining and dining big clients in Vegas for the Allstar game and i think he also mentioned dropping big $$ for some folks in Miami for one of their games there.



So, bottom line, it really doesn't matter financially for the Spurs if the upper level is not sold out.

It just looks bad?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

It's sad, but I think it's because Spurs fan hit that emotional high somebody previously mentioned with the Suns series.

I was working in the newsroom the night the Spurs closed out the Suns (at about 11:00-ish). I got out of work at 12:15 a.m. and tried to head home by getting on 37-South by the Alamodome, but I was blocked off at Commerce by SAPD and forced to go right.

Why, you ask?

Spurs fans were celebrating by driving through downtown, honking their horns and such like this was the NBA Championship.

While I was waiting at one light (being held to let traffic through), I spoke with one of the police officers and I asked him if they expected this and he flat out said, "No."

Don't get me wrong, San Antonio is always looking for an excuse to party, but celebrating a return to glory win against the Suns (getting back to the WCF) like it's O'Brien #4 is simply weak.

[chorizo overdose]

i said so. the championship is over. the spurs won. the fuck are you all trying to do with this jazz team?

the NBA playoffs peaked early.
case closed.

[Soul_Patch]

So, bottom line, it really doesn't matter financially for the Spurs if the upper level is not sold out.

It just looks bad?


I honestly haven't seen LP since the playoffs started, moreso cause im broke and not going to play poker :) but id assume that he wasn't very concerned with the 200's being empty.


Their cash cows are the luxury suites and the 20's. Those are the guys that invest a lot of money into the organization in more ways than ticket sales.

They do have people devoted to these concerns though, it just isnt top priority.

I hate it...i really do. One of my biggest gripes about todays sports teams and even big named music acts is that they price out the real hardcore do or die fans.

but...a business is a business.

[gino>yourlife]

fuck it, more tickets for me

[mrsmaalox]

I also think the scalpers might be having a big effect. As I drove in for the game Sunday I easily drove past 15 people waving around 4 tickets each. Earlier that day TM didn't have any decent upper level tix left; they were all out on the street while people sat at home wishing they had tickets. I know playoff tix are expensive but maybe some drink and food specials would bring more people in. I mean a free hot dog to the first 500 people in the door could mean more families could afford to put out for the tickets.

[MadDog73]

I also think the scalpers might be having a big effect.


Scalpers = tickets sold.

We're not talking about empty seats, we're talking about unsold seats.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

i said so. the championship is over. the spurs won. the fuck are you all trying to do with this jazz team?

the NBA playoffs peaked early.
case closed.

The even sadder part: to true NBA fans, the Jazz are a great team.

Let me preface this by saying I don't really hate any team or player in any sports (I could probably count them on one hand).

Deron Williams and Carlos Boozer are two of my favorite guys to watch play. Mehmet Okur is great because when he's on, he can kill you from 19' + and that's a good damn team in the visiting locker room.

Truth be told, the Spurs simply aren't the status symbol they are in other cities (IE: Mavericks fan bringing that up when talking about their crowds).

While I will acknowledge the rising price of tickets and costs of living (which is why I'm working tonight covering one of the other professional franchises in town), some Spurs fans have become complacent.

There isn't just one factor causing this, though. It's a combination of many that are resulting in these blocks of tickets going unsold (because while people would notice the empties if they were there, had the Spurs reported a sell-out, this discussion wouldn't be happening).

[ducks]

if spurs did a blackout would they sell out?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

if spurs did a blackout would they sell out?

You know what's funny...I pray it's not that easy to get this game sold out.

[LilMissSPURfect]

if spurs did a blackout would they sell out?

who knows, but better marketing rather than blaming the fans would do it ...I support the spurs as much as I can! (afford) ...t-shirts, mugs, tickets etc. But to blame the FANS is wrong. I ask myself everyday. Why do we invest the money, the time, and the finger nail biting, th hoarse voices and the thrash talking for the spurs...A fan shows their support in many ways not just in the SEATS!

[ducks]

you know maybe they could lower their prices to regular season
and people would still have some money

gas also is alot more then what it is
what does the average person in sa make?
how far does he have to drive to go to work?
I know a guy that pays $3.60 per gallon for gas
he has to work 3 days to pay for gas out of 14

[MadDog73]

Guys, it's not money. Really.

If this was Spurs vs Mavs, this place would be SOLD OUT (and not just because of MavFans, although that would help).

Hmm, maybe SLC needs to offer free airfare to SA? :lol


I know a guy that pays $3.60 per gallon for gas
he has to work 3 days to pay for gas out of 14

Wow.

1. Where is he buying gas?

2. What kind of car does he drive?

[violentkitten]

hey, if there are hardcore fans who can afford it then yeah, get your ass to the at&t tonight.

[ducks]

do you also realize that people bought houses on loans when people thought interst rates would never go up
I say on tv the guys loan is going to go from 1600 a month to 2200 a month

[ducks]

Guys, it's not money. Really.

If this was Spurs vs Mavs, this place would be SOLD OUT (and not just because of MavFans, although that would help).

Hmm, maybe SLC needs to offer free airfare to SA? :lol



Wow.

1. Where is he buying gas?

2. What kind of car does he drive?

lives in ca
not sure
but that is what he spends on gas and his wife
wife works
he has to work 2 days to pay for their babysitter though to

[LilMissSPURfect]

Yes, my elderly moms is about 25miles (one way) because gas is 3$ a gallon I reluctantly have to put off the daily visits. (and like other americans own like the biggest gas guzzler suv)...my husband has to work a full day to make money for gas for a week...thats how dumb it has gotten! THIS IS THE USA....we're not supposed be getting screw'd we are the ONES that are supposed to b doing the srewing....

[LilMissSPURfect]

hey, if there are hardcore fans who can afford it then yeah, get your ass to the at&t tonight.


:elephant :elephant :elephant
Dam if i had a scratch ticket and hit it ..I would starve just to watch the SPURS play!!!!

[fyatuk]

WTF? Are your serious?

You think there are Spus fans in San Antonio who don't know there is a game tonight?

Did I say that? Spurs don't do anything to drum up excitement anymore. When i started watching basketball (granted, I started watching right when Admiral came in), I nearly got sick of all the commercials for the Spurs I'd see.

I haven't seen anything advertising or trying to get the city pumped for the Spurs in years.

Advertising is NOT all about making sure people know there's a game and how to buy tickets, it's about generating an atmosphere about it. The Spurs no longer try in that regard.

And just for a laugh. A person in the elevator today asked if the Spurs were playing tonight. And then who they were playing.

[rascal]

I know the Spurs mess with the numbers a bit here and there but they do have good regular season attendance and they did again this season. I don't know do they raise the prices come playoff time alot so many people are not willing to shell it out. The prices look fine to me i guess a lot of people in SA are just being cheap.

No, the people are not cheap, they are poor. Half the city can't afford to go to the playoff games.

Also the Jazz are not a highly marketable team to shell out big bucks to go see. Even if it is the conference finals. Its not like the spurs have never gotten there before.

If it was the first time for the spurs the excitement level would be higher and there would be no problem with sellouts.

[LilMissSPURfect]

I wouldn't say poor either...but the CHOICES we are confronted with make it hard......gas for the car to go to work or a SPURS ticket....? hmmmmmm and about that person saying the spurs don't generate the excitement is very true....other than the Tim Duncan HEB commercials where is all marketing at?

[Felonius Monk]

Just a couple of notes at approximately 11:30, Tuesday AM.

1. The cheapest price on spurs.com for 2 tickets: $174 each plus fees.
2. There are 614 tickets available on ticket exchange, only 144 of which are under $100.

So not only are there unsold seats, there are seats competing with the unsold seats. And this doesn't include ebay and others reselling.

Does this have any bearing on anything? I don't know. I was just curious as to what's available.

[violentkitten]

as for the jazz, they were handing out free t-shirts to 'paint the energy solutions arena blue' in the 2nd round. i'd also suppose that the salt lake city msa has a larger number of white collar professionals pulling down large salaries than in the san antonio one. the spurs do a shitty job marketing their team up the I-35 corridor when, as mentioned above, they could promote the team well in san marcos and austin. the spurs definitely feel entitled to a sold out arena enough that they have jacked up ticket prices for the wcf and have done jack to promote the game. plus when you go all i see is holt's hand out looking for more and more $.

[Extra Stout]

In 2000, the mean income of the wealthiest 20% of San Antonians was $119,000.

That was seven years ago. San Antonio is wealthier now, and the dollar has been devalued. My best guesstimate is that they are averaging $140,000 now.

Are all the rich people driving Hummer H2's that get 7 mpg? Is that why gas prices are keeping so many people from buying tickets?

[GrandeDavid]

You don't think the vast majority of Spurs fans are casual fans who take whatever the media says as gospel? I do. I think that Spurs fans have bought into that this team is boring.

But I'll come clean here. I anticipate that while ticketmaster probably had something to do with the first game not selling out (if the 2nd one doesn't sell out - someone should die in the front office) but I also think that this series doesn't have much appeal.

All you have heard was about how the 2nd round was the real NBA finals and in the least it was the real WCF. I think Utah is a good team, but I also feel this isn't truely a marquee matchup but rather a forality that is before the Spurs play the Finals. That may be a horrible assumption to make, but it is what it is and I think that most Spurs fans feel the same way.

The NBA needs to fix their brackets (again) and make sure the 2 highest seeded teams meet in the WCF. This year with Dallas losing in the first you were screwed out of seeing the matchup everyone wanted in the WCF but you got it (again) in the 2nd round. It is almost like the playoffs peaked too soon.

So yeah, I think that Spurs fans are bored with this series. But thats probably a big fault of the Spurs PR machine too. They should be stepping things up right now and as far as I can see they are fairly nonexisitant outside of some EN fan guilt triping.

The attendence has suffered all year. The Spurs really should take a look at what they are doing (or not doing) and fix it. In the end its their responsibility to make sure those seats are filled.

I couldn't agree with this take more. The season ticket holders will be there, but those up in the rafters, as Kori pointed out, are going to be feeling the pinch of paying higher prices with each round. I don't think this series has sex appeal to the Spurs fans YET, and my guess is the masses would rather just watch these initial games against Utah from their own homes or at a bar or party with friends. If the series is 2-2 coming back to San Antonio, for example, I bet the place sells out. But at 1-0 against Utah, the masses, i.e. the casual limited-knowledge fans, are going to save their bucks. Many fans will budget for one, MAYBE two playoff games live. I'm sure the vast majority are assuming that the Spurs will get by Utah, then there will be a mad rush for the Finals tickets.

I just hope to hell the Spurs are not getting jinxed or something. Utah will NOT be a pushover. Utah is an outstanding home team, and all they have to do is take care of business at home and the Spurs are in danger of elimination in seven. Hell, if Utah steals tonights game, I'll be concerned.

[dbreiden83080]

They mentioned this on ESPN first take this morning about a lot of unsold tickets for tonight as well. It is crappy enough that Spurs fans have to deal with the perception of being boring as a team but now people can rag on them for their own city not even loving them.

[violentkitten]

http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/saipe/saipe.cgi

est median household income in salt lake county was $50,420 in 2004.

est median household income in bexar county was $38,832 in 2004.

[ChumpDumper]

You guys are really hung up on this free cheap T-shirt thing.

Is this really what's keeping people away?

[LilMissSPURfect]

They mentioned this on ESPN first take this morning about a lot of unsold tickets for tonight as well. It is crappy enough that Spurs fans have to deal with the perception of being boring as a team but now people can rag on them for their own city not even loving them.


ESPN needs to learn how to MARKET their products too!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

You guys are really hung up on this free cheap T-shirt thing.

Is this really what's keeping people away?


You know what's funny...I pray it's not that easy to get this game sold out.

That would be idiotic on so many levels.

[dbreiden83080]

ESPN needs to learn how to MARKET their products too!

True enough since ABC owns espn and they are the ones brodcasting these games you'd think that they would try and keep that under wraps.

[violentkitten]

You guys are really hung up on this free cheap T-shirt thing.

Is this really what's keeping people away?


it's indicative of the team's approach to marketing the team and how the fans are viewed, along with jacking up the prices of tickets.

[Extra Stout]

http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/saipe/saipe.cgi

est median household income in salt lake county was $50,420 in 2004.

est median household income in bexar county was $38,832 in 2004.

MSA 2005 median household income:

Salt Lake City: $48,993
San Antonio: $43,263

The MSA includes surrounding counties.

[LilMissSPURfect]

You guys are really hung up on this free cheap T-shirt thing.

Is this really what's keeping people away?


not saying it is but to eliminate the possiblity what's wrong with it? If it works they are marketing geniuses if it fails the SPONSORS still get advertising..


in my case....if i could afford it I WOULD BE there...with or without a TSHIRT!!
http://cdn-56.cdn.buzznet.com/assets/bhusers1/alanlee/default/msg-115677252815.jpg

[violentkitten]

sure, which ones are included in the SA MSA?

also, link?

[Extra Stout]

You guys are really hung up on this free cheap T-shirt thing.

Is this really what's keeping people away?
I guess with the price of gas what it is, people need help with clothing.

[LilMissSPURfect]

I guess with the price of gas what it is, people need help with clothing.


:dramaquee :dramaquee :lol :clap :greedy while you at it throw the dog a bone....free WHATABURGERS!!!

[ChumpDumper]

not saying it is but to eliminate the possiblity what's wrong with it?I'd say something was wrong with San Antonians if that's why a WCF game doesn't sell out.

If you don't want a pro basketball team in your town, this is how to show it.

[fyatuk]

I'm not sure about anyone else, but over the last several years, I found myself wanting to go to the games less. I mean, I have about $200 a year I can spend on sporting events. That's 2-3 Spurs games really. For that same amount I can go to 10-12 Rampage/Missions games.

The second option is better bang for my buck, especially since I can watch the Spurs on TV, but there is no TV coverage of the Rampage and Missions (even to barely a blip on the news coverage).

Maybe my willingness to compromise like that makes me less of a Spurs fan, but that's how it is for me.

[maxpower]

Sadly, the simplest reason is probably the most likely.

It's the match-up.

To make it even sadder it is probably from lack of the other team's fans.

If this were the Lakers, Mavs, Rockets, Suns or even Nuggs, many of those tickets would be bought by the transplants and bandwagoners.

[reddog 99]

not saying it is but to eliminate the possiblity what's wrong with it? If it works they are marketing geniuses if it fails the SPONSORS still get advertising..


in my case....if i could afford it I WOULD BE there...with or without a TSHIRT!!
http://cdn-56.cdn.buzznet.com/assets/bhusers1/alanlee/default/msg-115677252815.jpg


NOW THIS THREAD IS GOING SOMEWHERE!!!

:blah :blah :blah

[dbreiden83080]

Really what they should have done after game 1 was not a sellout was drop the prices quite a bit for the lesser sections and put that on their site and take out huge ads in the papers get that info to the people and i am sure they would have sold out for tonight no problem. I'd rather lose a couple bucks if i was the owner than face the embarassment of another non-sell out West final game. Looks like there is no doubt it will be another non-sell out tonight. I just went to Spurs.com and punched in 10 tickets and i could have got them, too bad i am thousands of miles way. This is pretty SAD :depressed

[fyatuk]

sure, which ones are included in the SA MSA?

also, link?

Every county that touches Bexar, and that's it.

Which reminds me, during one of the games this past weekend, who laughed when one of the commentators mispronounced Bexar?

[DaSpurs#1]

i don't know what's with SA's problem with not filling up the center. I know for sure if I only had one final tomorrow i definitely would buy tickets for tonight and go. Hell I'm even tempted to go tonight even though I have stuff to do. I'd even go if the only this that was left was nose bleed seats (unfortunately they are). Come on SA get your act together and root for your Spurs! I mean seriously is this not the same city that wated 4+ hours in advance to fill up the entire riverwalk and Alamodome in the championship parade and ceremony, with some people rushing over from the parade to the Alamodome? Is this not the same SA that would go downtown and celebrate a championship by honking and cheering until 3AM? I don't know what to think about our lack of attendance, but if attendance is crappy maybe a loss tonight would get Spurs fans' attention.

[Extra Stout]

sure, which ones are included in the SA MSA?

also, link?

41700 San Antonio, TX Metropolitan Statistical Area
41700 48013 Atascosa County, TX
41700 48019 Bandera County, TX
41700 48029 Bexar County, TX
41700 48091 Comal County, TX
41700 48187 Guadalupe County, TX
41700 48259 Kendall County, TX
41700 48325 Medina County, TX
41700 48493 Wilson County, TX

Link (http://www.census.gov/population/www/estimates/metro_general/2006/List4.txt)

Nifty interactive link (http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/IPGeoSearchByListServlet?ds_name=ACS_2005_EST_G00_&_lang=en&_ts=197893560551)

[SA210]

just for the record... when I called Ticketmasters on Saturday to get tickets for Go Diego Go the great jaguar rescue... there was a voice recording trelling me that if I was calling for Spurs tickets I was SOL because they were all sold out.
Exactly, Same here. And the same happened to many more. I do blame Ticketmaster for the 1st game, this here is proof of that. People thought they were sold out and that's what they were told for both Games 1 and 2. That's a fact. Period.

I think yesterday was too early to panic about Game 2. All the talk and criticism about the Game 1 non-sellout made this an issue (news worthy), (without disclosing that thousands of people were told that nothing was available).

Now that they are letting people know that tickets are still available, after all (without admitting the Ticketmaster foul up) I'm sure everything will be fine. It was only 1000 tickets available yesterday, not 3000. There is still today's sales and the walk-up crowd.

[Extra Stout]

I'm not sure about anyone else, but over the last several years, I found myself wanting to go to the games less. I mean, I have about $200 a year I can spend on sporting events. That's 2-3 Spurs games really. For that same amount I can go to 10-12 Rampage/Missions games.

The second option is better bang for my buck, especially since I can watch the Spurs on TV, but there is no TV coverage of the Rampage and Missions (even to barely a blip on the news coverage).

Maybe my willingness to compromise like that makes me less of a Spurs fan, but that's how it is for me.
If you get NBA League Pass, you can still watch them play at the SAVVIS Center.

[ChumpDumper]

If you get NBA League Pass, you can still watch them play at the SAVVIS Center.San Antonio is apparently too poor to know what that is.

[MadDog73]

MSA 2005 median household income:

Salt Lake City: $48,993
San Antonio: $43,263

The MSA includes surrounding counties.


Still....

$5,730 will buy you some nice tickets.

[violentkitten]

41700 San Antonio, TX Metropolitan Statistical Area
41700 48013 Atascosa County, TX
41700 48019 Bandera County, TX
41700 48029 Bexar County, TX
41700 48091 Comal County, TX
41700 48187 Guadalupe County, TX
41700 48259 Kendall County, TX
41700 48325 Medina County, TX
41700 48493 Wilson County, TX

Link (http://www.census.gov/population/www/estimates/metro_general/2006/List4.txt)

Nifty interactive link (http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/IPGeoSearchByListServlet?ds_name=ACS_2005_EST_G00_&_lang=en&_ts=197893560551)


so the spurs have to count on attracting members of relatively more affluent households from outside of their 'home county' while the jazz can concentrate their efforts on those within their 'home county'.

[word]

The games are sellouts. What they call 'sellout' is actually 'capacity crowd'. Meaning, every available ticket has been scanned at the gates. There were empty seats during game 2 -vs- Suns. I was there, I saw them. They were empty the entire game. Some of 'em pretty good seats too.

[Extra Stout]

So apparently the key to getting Spurs fans earning over $100K a year to go to Spurs games is to give them free clothing and food, since they can't afford to feed or clothe themselves on account of high gas prices.

[Extra Stout]

The games are sellouts. What they call 'sellout' is actually 'capacity crowd'. Meaning, every available ticket has been scanned at the gates. There were empty seats during game 2 -vs- Suns. I was there, I saw them. They were empty the entire game. Some of 'em pretty good seats too.
Sorry, there were unsold tickets for Game 1. Having scores of paid-for, but empty, seats is routine at Spurs games.

[LilMissSPURfect]

So apparently the key to getting Spurs fans earning over $100K a year to go to Spurs games is to give them free clothing and food, since they can't afford to feed or clothe themselves on account of high gas prices.


:dizzy

are we dancing here? and if i do-do i get free tickets and shirts? and please my car needs gas too :p: :p: :lol :lol :lol



(im not makin 100k yet....) (shoot im not raking in 10k :lol :lol )

[ducks]

a business should buy the rest and give them away !

[ducks]

I bet tickets would sell out if a gas station would donate a full tank of gas for everyone at the game! or even $30 dollars worth of gas!

[judaspriestess]

Do people in San Antonio not have a fucking credit card?

Sheesh I am sure as hell glad I don't live there anymore. It will always be home but its too poor for me.

[MadDog73]

Do people in San Antonio not have a fucking credit card?

Yes, everyone knows the best thing to do when you're broke, is to go into debt! :rolleyes



Sheesh I am sure as hell glad I don't live there anymore. It will always be home but its too poor for me.

:depressed

[Extra Stout]

Do they give out free T-shirts and food when you give blood in SA, or is that only in wealthy cities?

[judaspriestess]

Yes, everyone knows the best thing to do when you're broke, is to go into debt! :rolleyes



:depressed

So how often does a chance like this come around. going in debt for sixty dollars with a minimum payment of $10.00 aren't the Spurs worth it? :rolleyes

If you think you will never have then you have defeated yourself because you will never have.

[LilMissSPURfect]

Do people in San Antonio not have a fucking credit card?

Sheesh I am sure as hell glad I don't live there anymore. It will always be home but its too poor for me.


well americanEXPRESS you!

too po? i think SA within the last couple of years had mad strides in that department. (i just got otta school i know stuff) they are up theres competing with houston now!

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe we could just have Cuban give us all the unused Mavericks NBA Championship T-shirts then we could turn them inside-out and do them up with Sharpies.


Nah, we can't afford Sharpies.

[LilMissSPURfect]

60$? for one .....us messycans travel in packs u see

[judaspriestess]

well americanEXPRESS you!

too po? i think SA within the last couple of years had mad strides in that department. (i just got otta school i know stuff) they are up theres competing with houston now!

I'm glad to hear that miss. I moved away 13 years ago because all I saw was fatness and poorness. Its about time SA progressed. I wouldn't go so far as competing with Houston but lets face the reality San Antonio is known for being po'dunk. I still love SA but I hate to read that a game can't sell out. Its a travesty and a shame. I was born and raised in San Antonio so I have every flippin right to express my opinion!! Case closed.

[violentkitten]

it's interesting how all of sudden san antonio is brimming with upper middle class basketball agnostic professionals pulling in $200K+ annually.

[LilMissSPURfect]

dang ...(with no foul ups).by game time it'll sell out!

*ima gonna go get me an amex card and buy up all the remaining seats for my pack......see prollem solved...

[Extra Stout]

they are up theres competing with houston now!
In Houston, you get a T-shirt, cookies, and orange juice just for giving blood. You don't even have to buy tickets to an NBA playoff game!

Someday San Antonio will get there too.

[ChumpDumper]

it's interesting how all of sudden san antonio is brimming with upper middle class basketball agnostic professionals pulling in $200K+ annually.It's interesting how all of the sudden the Spurs can't sell out a WCF game.

[violentkitten]

i guess buddy 'chamber of commerce' holly's orgasmic rants about the greatness of san antonio de bexar have come true.

[judaspriestess]

dang ...(with no foul ups).by game time it'll sell out!

*ima gonna go get me an amex card and buy up all the remaining seats for my pack......see prollem solved...

it was a suggestion, you can't handle it, thats your problem

and its MEXCUN not messicans. :lol

[violentkitten]

It's interesting how all of the sudden the Spurs can't sell out a WCF game.


after they jacked up the ticket prices on upper 200 level seats it's not all that surprising.

[ChumpDumper]

after they jacked up the ticket prices on upper 200 level seats it's not all that surprising.Ok, San Antonio is too poor to support an NBA franchise.

You've made your point.

[Extra Stout]

i guess buddy 'chamber of commerce' holly's orgasmic rants about the greatness of san antonio de bexar have come true.
Unfortunately for the Spurs, all of the nouveau riche got that way through shrewd frugality, and won't go to playoff games unless they are wooed by marketing, or get free T-shirts and hot dogs.

[Extra Stout]

Ok, San Antonio is too poor to support an NBA franchise.

You've made your point.
St. Louis Spurs!

[violentkitten]

i guess we also expect susie and todd to enjoy 2.5 to 3 hours sitting in the common section when they could be at home in their pottery barn furnished 'living space' watching the game on todd's brand new 50" hd plasma flat panel.

[ChumpDumper]

San Antonians can't afford 50" plasma TVs.

[violentkitten]

Ok, San Antonio is too poor to support an NBA franchise.

You've made your point.

as long as the spurs insist on squeezing blood out of the stone.

[violentkitten]

San Antonians can't afford 50" plasma TVs.

nah, all of the great hummer h1 driving upper crust in the msa surely can.

[ChumpDumper]

as long as the spurs insist on squeezing blood out of the stone.Yes, Marcus the socialist surfaces again.

[judaspriestess]

San Antonians can't afford 50" plasma TVs.

not even on a payment plan?

Thats the solution, good ole layaway. People can buy tickets and do a payment plan, shit no payments for a year or same as cash for a year!!

[ChumpDumper]

nah, all of the great hummer h1 driving upper crust in the msa surely can.Those don't exist. You said they're poor so they're poor and can't take a 6.5% increase in prices.

[ChumpDumper]

not even on a payment plan?They can't even afford T-shirts.

[violentkitten]

Those don't exist. You said they're poor so they're poor and can't take a 6.5% increase in prices.

nah, i was told they exist and that's why we should admonish san antonio for not supporting the spurs no matter how much they opportunistically raise ticket prices.

[ChumpDumper]

nah, i was told they exist and that's why we should admonish san antonio for not supporting the spurs no matter how much they opportunistically raise ticket prices.I was told they are too poor too afford clothing so it doesn't matter what they charge for tickets and we should blame the team for their poverty of San Antonians.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

So why isn't the Cavs Piston game 2 sold out yet? It has Lebron!!





Competition and a shitty economy. The Tigers are at home and the Wings may be playing a WCF G7 at home as well.

[violentkitten]

I was told they are too poor too afford clothing so it doesn't matter what they charge for tickets and we should blame the team for their poverty of San Antonians.

nah, some are trying to blame the fans who are lower middle class/working poor for not paying more for the same seats in this series.

[LilMissSPURfect]

it was a suggestion, you can't handle it, thats your problem

and its MEXCUN not messicans. :lol


I don't quite understand.
If i choose to show my support by buying tickets I am a bigger fan? I have supported my team plenty. (still paying for it i might add) .

Ultimately, i think its on the SPURS marketing department to SELL their product like one suggested.

I am perfectly comfortable supporting my team from home on my 80 inch plasma ( :spin )


GO SPURS!

[nkdlunch]

mexican't sellout games

[LilMissSPURfect]

Maybe if SPURS meet Pistons I will get the amex out for a game or two.......(just being honest) and (spoiled)

[ChumpDumper]

nah, some are trying to blame the fans who are lower middle class/working poor for not paying more for the same seats in this series.Again, you're saying San Antonio can't afford major league sports.

That's fine.

It's not a big deal then.

Anaheim can afford them.

[LilMissSPURfect]

mexican't sellout games


:p: :p:

oh lord!

[dbreiden83080]

after they jacked up the ticket prices on upper 200 level seats it's not all that surprising.

Those are the seats they should have dropped the prices too after game 1 was not a sellout, to ensure game 2 would be. This is weird the attendance for the year was 9th out of 30 right in line with where it has alway been since they moved to the SBC/AT&T center and now suddenly they can't sell out a west final game when they never had this problem before.

[ChumpDumper]

Prices always rise during the playoffs. Those games are usually considered more important to the fans.

[violentkitten]

Again, you're saying San Antonio can't afford major league sports.

That's fine.

It's not a big deal then.

Anaheim can afford them.


sure, some san antonians can't afford to attend games when the prices on upper level tickets are increased significantly in the later rounds of the postseason. claiming that will force a team to leave town that has a significant breakup fee in their contract with bexar county is spurious, at best.

[judaspriestess]

I don't quite understand.
If i choose to show my support by buying tickets I am a bigger fan? I have supported my team plenty. (still paying for it i might add) .

Ultimately, i think its on the SPURS marketing department to SELL their product like one suggested.

I am perfectly comfortable supporting my team from home on my 80 inch plasma ( :spin )


GO SPURS!

damn they make 80 inch plasma's? NICE

LOL, how is the Spurs marketing department going to sell the tickets if no one is going to buy them.
If it wasn't important to sell out games then there wouldn't be an article on it. It only adds to the mantra of Spurs suck, Spurs don't deserve to win it all, if San Antonians can't even show up to the games or leave early, it's just shitty, why is that so hard to understand? :cry

[MadDog73]

Prices always rise during the playoffs. Those games are usually considered more important to the fans.

Off topic, Chump, but why does your team say Atlanta?!?

[Extra Stout]

Those are the seats they should have dropped the prices too after game 1 was not a sellout, to ensure game 2 would be. This is weird the attendance for the year was 9th out of 30 right in line with where it has alway been since they moved to the SBC/AT&T center and now suddenly they can't sell out a west final game when they never had this problem before.
It was probably a Ticketmaster snafu, but the excuse-mongering has been extremely funny.
What we've learned is that Thad and Tiffany out in Bulverde can't afford to go to Spurs games, unless they get free T-shirts and hot dogs, because once they buy their 50" plasma screen and put gas in their Hummer to haul it home, they can't afford clothing or food.

[Soul_Patch]

I'm glad to hear that miss. I moved away 13 years ago because all I saw was fatness and poorness. Its about time SA progressed. I wouldn't go so far as competing with Houston but lets face the reality San Antonio is known for being po'dunk. I still love SA but I hate to read that a game can't sell out. Its a travesty and a shame. I was born and raised in San Antonio so I have every flippin right to express my opinion!! Case closed.



are you going to the game?


Id be willing to bet 50% at least of the people bitching that the game isnt going to be sold out, are also not going to the game themselves.


How about...instead of players making 50 million dollar contracts, they make 30 million dollar contracts. The org can then use that extra 20 mil to offset lower the cost of the damn tickets.

hrmm

[nkdlunch]

to be honest as a Spur fan not living in San Antonio it really pisses me off that Spur fans have excuses not to go to the game. THERE IS NO EXCUSE, tickets are not THAT expensive. I would go into debt and go to playoff games in a second, I would not even think twice about it.

It seems San Antonians would rather go buy beers and tequila than go to a Spur playoff game. It's very pathetic and sad. Let's hope the basketball Gods don't punish us for being spoiled.

[ChumpDumper]

sure, some san antonians can't afford to attend games when the prices on upper level tickets are increased significantly in the later rounds of the postseason.Are those seats the ones that didn't sell? How is this different from any other Spurs playoff run?
claiming that will force a team to leave town that has a significant breakup fee in their contract with bexar county is spurious, at best.Not really. Fees can be paid. All depends on the bottom line. If the owners think they'll do much better somewhere else, they'll move.

[Extra Stout]

are you going to the game?


Id be willing to bet 50% at least of the people bitching that the game isnt going to be sold out, are also not going to the game themselves.


How about...instead of players making 50 million dollar contracts, they make 30 million dollar contracts. The org can then use that extra 20 mil to offset lower the cost of the damn tickets.

hrmm
:lmao Oh, the populist "players make too much money" excuse.

Sure, the Spurs can lower payroll $20 million. Then you don't have to worry about failing to sell out WCF games, because the Spurs will have gone 29-53 and missed the playoffs in the first place.

But maybe they can play up-tempo.

[violentkitten]

It was probably a Ticketmaster snafu, but the excuse-mongering has been extremely funny.
What we've learned is that Thad and Tiffany out in Bulverde can't afford to go to Spurs games, unless they get free T-shirts and hot dogs, because once they buy their 50" plasma screen and put gas in their Hummer to haul it home, they can't afford clothing or food.

nah, thad and tiffany are headed over to todd and susie's to watch the game on todd's new hd plasma and for drinks. thad wouldn't mind if they were into swinging because he's had his eye on susie's tight little frame for some time now. in any event, it beats the drive to the at&t and sitting with the sweaty proletariat for 3 hours in 'club 200'.

[Extra Stout]

nah, thad and tiffany are headed over to todd and susie's to watch the game on todd's new hd plasma and for drinks. thad wouldn't mind if they were into swinging because he's had his eye on susie's tight little frame for some time now. in any event, it beats the drive to the at&t and sitting with the sweaty proletariat for 3 hours in 'club 200'.
And that makes them the worst fans in the league, because anywhere else, fans would kill to be in the actual arena.

[phxspurfan]

not sure if this thought has been voiced yet (since I came to the discussion late) but I think this quandary is very simple.


People expected us to play the Mavericks if we made it to the WCF (or at least the Warriors), and now they're like wtf, this is gonna be boring. Bring on Detroit or Cleveland, because Dallas losing has become a sort of killjoy.

Even as dedicated Spurs fan, I saw the bill of Spurs-Jazz as both boring and worth skipping over in favor of Yanks-Sox, Mad Money or whatever else is on. The Jazz do not excite me at all, and sometimes its even painful to watch their games.

[violentkitten]

Are those seats the ones that didn't sell? How is this different from any other Spurs playoff run?Not really.

the tix were in 'club 200'.



Fees can be paid. All depends on the bottom line. If the owners think they'll do much better somewhere else, they'll move.

that fee would add about 20% more to the price of any exit for holt cat.

[nkdlunch]

nah, thad and tiffany are headed over to todd and susie's to watch the game on todd's new hd plasma and for drinks. thad wouldn't mind if they were into swinging because he's had his eye on susie's tight little frame for some time now. in any event, it beats the drive to the at&t and sitting with the sweaty proletariat for 3 hours in 'club 200'.

that's pathetic. because you know what? the players would like the arena to be sold out. they would like to know ppl care enough to go through the trouble of going to the arena to watch them live.

[degenerate_gambler]

biggest reason i can see...


- the opponent this round.


higher ticket prices are an excuse, not the problem. if one was really excited, they'd find a way to come up with the scratch needed to get in the door.

[violentkitten]

And that makes them the worst fans in the league, because anywhere else, fans would kill to be in the actual arena.

not when todd could kick back on that brand new suede chair and ottoman susie picked up at restoration hardware while checking out susie's sweet little ass as she serves up limoncellos.

[ChumpDumper]

the tix were in 'club 200'.All of them?
that fee would add about 20% more to the price of any exit for holt cat.Who says he would end up paying that?

[ChumpDumper]

Why does Marcus hate rich people?

[judaspriestess]

are you going to the game?


Id be willing to bet 50% at least of the people bitching that the game isnt going to be sold out, are also not going to the game themselves.


How about...instead of players making 50 million dollar contracts, they make 30 million dollar contracts. The org can then use that extra 20 mil to offset lower the cost of the damn tickets.

hrmm

I can't go to the game I live 1300 miles away :rolleyes

but if the Spurs make it to the finals, hell yeah I'll go to at least one game. I have to ask for time off etc but I'm sure I can get it. Buy a plane ticket and buy an overpriced ticket, but I watching the Spurs play in the finals I can justify the jacked up ticket prices.

[violentkitten]

Why does Marcus hate rich people?

i'm not the one advocating their malaise towards the nba as the reason the spurs can't sell out a playoff game. just explaining why it's a bit much to expect them to climb up to row 25 in section 203 to sit next to jim bob and luann or raul and rosa for 3 hours.

[Soul_Patch]

Regardless of how much i love basketball and the spurs, i cannot justify neglecting other obligations to pay for every home game during the playoffs. Just cant do it. I guess that means im less of a fan than you.

[ChumpDumper]

i'm not the one advocating their malaise towards the nba as the reason the spurs can't sell out a playoff game. just explaining why it's a bit much to expect them to climb up to row 25 in section 203 to sit next to jim bob and luann or raul and rosa for 3 hours.But you just said those poor people can't afford to go to the games.

make up your mind.

[violentkitten]

Regardless of how much i love basketball and the spurs, i cannot justify neglecting other obligations to pay for every home game during the playoffs. Just cant do it. I guess that means im less of a fan than you.

i guess it means you don't drive a h1 hummer and live in an affluent exurb.

[Extra Stout]

not when todd could kick back on that brand new suede chair and ottoman susie picked up at restoration hardware while checking out susie's sweet little ass as she serves up limoncellos.
Fantasizing about adultery does not make one a good fan.

[Patrick Davis]

I'm not cheap, I'm not a bandwagon fan. I'm broke. I can't afford the gas/parking/ticket to go to the games. Now, I do know A lot of people who won't buy tickets for this series are going to bitch when the finals come and they can't get any. When my dad has season tickets I went to every game preaseason through playoffs. It sucks that spurs fans have gotten spoiled.

[Extra Stout]

But you just said those poor people can't afford to go to the games.

make up your mind.
Jim Bob and Luann, and Raul and Rosa are some of those nouveau riche.

[DarrinS]

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather watch from home than sit in the middle of the 200's.


Call me less of a fan if you want, but I have a better view from my couch than I do from the rafters. I can also get beer, food, etc. whenever I want. Somone's plastic beer cup is not 1 cm from the back of my head. Also, the general populace of SA is not exactly slim, so you end up feeling like you in the middle seat on a 3 hour flight, sitting between two lumberjacks.

[violentkitten]

But you just said those poor people can't afford to go to the games.

make up your mind.


nah, i said the lower middle class and working poor who traditionally sit in those seats have been priced out of the arena.

[Extra Stout]

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather watch from home than sit in the middle of the 200's.


Call me less of a fan if you want, but I have a better view from my couch than I do from the rafters. I can also get beer, food, etc. whenever I want. Somone's plastic beer cup is not 1 cm from the back of my head. Also, the general populace of SA is not exactly slim, so you end up feeling like you in the middle seat on a 3 hour flight, sitting between two lumberjacks.
You're less of a fan.

[violentkitten]

Fantasizing about adultery does not make one a good fan.

maybe thad just likes the feel of suede then.

[Extra Stout]

nah, i said the lower middle class and working poor who traditionally sit in those seats have been priced out of the arena.
Those people haven't gone to Spurs games in any significant numbers since the old HemisFair came down.

One night, though, years ago, the Spurs did offer $5 tickets to the upper deck of the Alamodome. I-37 northbound was jammed up for hours.

[DarrinS]

You're less of a fan.


Oh well <sniff> <sniff>, I guess I'll just have to live with the stigma.

[violentkitten]

Those people haven't gone to Spurs games in any significant numbers since the old HemisFair came down.

One night, though, years ago, the Spurs did offer $5 tickets to the upper deck of the Alamodome. I-37 northbound was jammed up for hours.


those are 'the people' in the upper 'club 200'.

[Extra Stout]

maybe thad just likes the feel of suede then.
If Thad could convince Todd and Susie to go to the game, he could furtively grab Susie's ass and blame it on the mouse look-alike in the row across the aisle.

[Extra Stout]

Oh well <sniff> <sniff>, I guess I'll just have to live with the stigma.
That's OK, I'll look down my nose at you at the parade.

[Kori Ellis]

Those people haven't gone to Spurs games in any significant numbers since the old HemisFair came down.

One night, though, years ago, the Spurs did offer $5 tickets to the upper deck of the Alamodome. I-37 northbound was jammed up for hours.

There's $9 tickets available to every regular season Spurs game all year. Those same tickets ar $25 this round, but you can find them on eBay for $10.

[Soul_Patch]

http://cgi.ebay.com/SPURS-PLAYOFF-TIX-GAME-2-DONT-MISS-OUT_W0QQitemZ120123105746QQihZ002QQcategoryZ16122Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


two tickets for 6.75


at least currently for 6.75


extra stout. Are you going to the game? If so, 200's?

[DarrinS]

If so many of you are devastated by not having a sellout, go by some inflatable dolls and buy the tickets yourself.

Personally, I'll be squandering my duckets on food, electricity, and mortgage payments.

[nkdlunch]

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather watch from home than sit in the middle of the 200's.


Call me less of a fan if you want, but I have a better view from my couch than I do from the rafters. I can also get beer, food, etc. whenever I want. Somone's plastic beer cup is not 1 cm from the back of my head. Also, the general populace of SA is not exactly slim, so you end up feeling like you in the middle seat on a 3 hour flight, sitting between two lumberjacks.

beleive it or not, your team needs your support. at the arena.

[Soul_Patch]

http://cgi.ebay.com/SPURS-PLAYOFF-TIX-GAME-2-DONT-MISS-OUT_W0QQitemZ120123106127QQihZ002QQcategoryZ16122Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


two tickets for 5 bucks. 1hr to go.

[DarrinS]

That's OK, I'll look down my nose at you at the parade.


:lol I'll be watching that from home, too. Well, not all of it.

[violentkitten]

If Thad could convince Todd and Susie to go to the game, he could furtively grab Susie's ass and blame it on the mouse look-alike in the row across the aisle.

much easier for thad to pull that off when after a bathroom visit he stops by the kitchen where susie is making lemon squares.

[Patrick Davis]

Its my birthday on friday I anyone wants to buy me tickets :)

[judaspriestess]

nah, i said the lower middle class and working poor who traditionally sit in those seats have been priced out of the arena.

damn it Spurs can't you take food stamps??? buy one get one free? anything??? :p:

[judaspriestess]

beleive it or not, your team needs your support. at the arena.


We are on the same page!!


to be honest as a Spur fan not living in San Antonio it really pisses me off that Spur fans have excuses not to go to the game. THERE IS NO EXCUSE, tickets are not THAT expensive. I would go into debt and go to playoff games in a second, I would not even think twice about it.

It seems San Antonians would rather go buy beers and tequila than go to a Spur playoff game. It's very pathetic and sad. Let's hope the basketball Gods don't punish us for being spoiled.

I think its beers and tacos, mmmmm I miss those tacos

[Extra Stout]

http://cgi.ebay.com/SPURS-PLAYOFF-TIX-GAME-2-DONT-MISS-OUT_W0QQitemZ120123105746QQihZ002QQcategoryZ16122Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


two tickets for 6.75


at least currently for 6.75


extra stout. Are you going to the game? If so, 200's?
I can't go tonight because of work commitments, but I'm going to Game 5, unless the Spurs sweep.

And I live 220 miles away.

And it'll be in the 200's because I'm Puro San Antonio.

[DarrinS]

beleive it or not, your team needs your support. at the arena.


I know it's fun to be part of the crowd and get bludgeoned with bang sticks, but I want to SEE the game.

[Patrick Davis]

I know it's fun to be part of the crowd and get bludgeoned with bang sticks, but I want to SEE the game.

You see all the refs calls first. You see player reactions you see who is coming in. And you never miss a second due to bad camera angles. I perfer it.

[nkdlunch]

I know it's fun to be part of the crowd and get bludgeoned with bang sticks, but I want to SEE the game.


beleive it or not, your team needs your support. at the arena.

[Extra Stout]

much easier for thad to pull that off when after a bathroom visit he stops by the kitchen where susie is making lemon squares.
Did they invite mouse over to watch the game? By the time he's done stealing all the DVD's and tchotchkies, not to mention having to steam the furniture and the carpets, game tickets would have been much cheaper.

[Melmart1]

People like judaspriestess need to get a fucking clue. She laments about how 'fat and poor' San Antonians are, then wants them to get fatter and go into MORE debt by charging tickets to a credit card that they can't afford?!

If everyone in SA is fat and poor and it is driving people like you to move 1300 miles away, why would you want them to dig the hole deeper simply so they can be seen as 'good fans' by people like you who look down your nose at them?

[Extra Stout]

I know it's fun to be part of the crowd and get bludgeoned with bang sticks, but I want to SEE the game.
Are you like 4'11" or something? The AT&T has marvelous sight lines, no matter the seat.

[Extra Stout]

People like judaspriestess need to get a fucking clue. She laments about how 'fat and poor' San Antonians are, then wants them to get fatter and go into MORE debt by charging tickets to a credit card that they can't afford?!

If everyone in SA is fat and poor and it is driving people like you to move 1300 miles away, why would you want them to dig the hole deeper simply so they can be seen as 'good fans' by people like you who look down your nose at them?
Because the people who should be buying the tickets are not the fat and poor ones, they're the upwardly-mobile ones getting liposuction, who are too busy trying to seduce their friends' spouses rather than going to the game.

[judaspriestess]

People like judaspriestess need to get a fucking clue. She laments about how 'fat and poor' San Antonians are, then wants them to get fatter and go into MORE debt by charging tickets to a credit card that they can't afford?!

If everyone in SA is fat and poor and it is driving people like you to move 1300 miles away, why would you want them to dig the hole deeper simply so they can be seen as 'good fans' by people like you who look down your nose at them?

cause I have a right to my opinion and *gasp* you've never heard the fat and poor comments before so fucking what? How is buying a ticket going to make them fatter? thats pretty stupid. I didn't say EVERYONE in SA is fat, are you implying that yourself. Don't be so fucking ridiculous. Theres tickets on Ebay for 10 dollars dude/chick. you get a fucking clue and I'll stick to my opinions, don't like it too bad.

[DarrinS]

Are you like 4'11" or something? The AT&T has marvelous sight lines, no matter the seat.


And there are also days when you can see Venus with the naked eye, but I prefer a telescope.

[Extra Stout]

And there are also days when you can see Venus with the naked eye, but I prefer a telescope.
They let you bring binoculars to the game if you like.

[mrsmaalox]

Scalpers = tickets sold.

We're not talking about empty seats, we're talking about unsold seats.
Well I was just referring to the stories on local news channels talking about sections of empty seats

[Extra Stout]

Maybe the seats at AT&T are about 40% too narrow for the backside of the average San Antonian. Is that it?

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Man, fuck the Spurs PR machine. Seriously. Are they trying to guilt San Antonio into going to the games? This is some serious bullshit and fucking ridiculous, alright. I just put the onus on the Spurs. Sell your fucking tickets but don't cry if they don't sell.

The Spurs don't have some sort of birth right to sell outs they have an obligation to themselves to get the fans in the seats. Last time I checked you don't bitch about customers if they're obviously not happy with your product.




LOL @ you blaming PR




Spurs fans are weak in SA

[Melmart1]

I didn't say EVERYONE in SA is fat, are you implying that yourself..


I moved away 13 years ago because all I saw was fatness and poorness

Hmm, sounds like thats what you were saying... I mean, fatness and poorness was ALL you saw!


I was born and raised in San Antonio so I have every flippin right to express my opinion!! Case closed.[/
As do I, and my opinion is that its very easy for people like you to look down on people here in the city when you live 1300 miles away. Some people have responsibilties and obligations financially that don't allow for them to spend money on tickets, parking and a $4 bottle of water. It is not as cut and dry as you and others here seem to think. I will be watching from here at home and I refuse to believe it makes me less of a fan because I didn't charge tickets that I will be making 'the minimum $10 payment' that you talked about on them for months to come, plus interest.

[violentkitten]

I can't go tonight because of work commitments, but I'm going to Game 5, unless the Spurs sweep.

And I live 220 miles away.

And it'll be in the 200's because I'm Puro San Antonio.

bringing susie with you? :king

[DarrinS]

Maybe the seats at AT&T are about 40% too narrow for the backside of the average San Antonian. Is that it?


I've seen people at the games that I wondered how in the HELL they got into their seats. I'm 5'10" and 180, and those things are pretty snug. I'm not tall at all and my knees hit the seat in front of me.

[Extra Stout]

bringing susie with you? :king
No, Todd said he'd rather stay at home in his gated community. It's up to us out-of-towners to pick up the slack.

[Extra Stout]

I've seen people at the games that I wondered how in the HELL they got into their seats. I'm 5'10" and 180, and those things are pretty snug. I'm not tall at all and my knees hit the seat in front of me.
The ushers have cheater bars and WD-40 to help.

[DarrinS]

The ushers have cheater bars and WD-40 to help.


Is that like an ass horn? You know -- like an ultra large shoe horn?


You know what's wierd are those luxury suites. Those people pay a lot of money for tickets (or their company does), and what do they do? They open a door, go into a little room, and watch it on TV. Then, during commercials, they go out and become part of the crowd.

[violentkitten]

Is that like an ass horn? You know -- like an ultra large shoe horn?


You know what's wierd are those luxury suites. Those people pay a lot of money for tickets (or their company does), and what do they do? They open a door, go into a little room, and watch it on TV. Then, during commercials, they go out and become part of the crowd.

nah, thad and susie like to have their quickies when there's lots of crowd noise.

[judaspriestess]

Hmm, sounds like thats what you were saying... I mean, fatness and poorness was ALL you saw!


As do I, and my opinion is that its very easy for people like you to look down on people here in the city when you live 1300 miles away. Some people have responsibilties and obligations financially that don't allow for them to spend money on tickets, parking and a $4 bottle of water. It is not as cut and dry as you and others here seem to think. I will be watching from here at home and I refuse to believe it makes me less of a fan because I didn't charge tickets that I will be making 'the minimum $10 payment' that you talked about on them for months to come, plus interest.

:lol so now you are going to dissect all my post for your benefit? Maybe that is what I/Me saw and that is how I choose to see it and if you think that is looking down on people thats your perogative. And you don't think I don't have responsibilities? :rolleyes spare me with the self rightous bullshit. I moved away because I did not see any hope for myself and I am grateful I did, but that is TOTALLY beside the point.
Lets stay on the subject at hand shall we?

The point is the GAMES ARE NOT A SELLOUT and its a travesty!! if money is the excuse then so be it. The credit card was a suggestion, people charge other shit on there why not a Spurs game.

[dustybottoms]

This will never happen in Salt Lake! Jazz fan here looking forward to some friendly banter and a great series.

[Extra Stout]

This will never happen in Salt Lake! Jazz fan here looking forward to some friendly banter and a great series.
Yeah, but in Salt Lake I'm sure they give out free T-shirts.

[violentkitten]

and plenty of jebediahs and ezekiels who are banking.

[judaspriestess]

Yeah, but in Salt Lake I'm sure they give out free T-shirts.
:lol are the t-shirts really that important?

[violentkitten]

todd might use his tshirt to wax his h1.

[DarrinS]

nah, thad and susie like to have their quickies when there's lots of crowd noise.

Who the fuck are Thad and Susie?

[violentkitten]

see page, uh, 13

[DarrinS]

Oh, ... doesn't apply to me. I'm too practical. I would never buy a Hummer. Isn't a Hummer a Suburban with "body armor"?

[violentkitten]

not the h1, my friend

[judaspriestess]

not the h1, my friend

what vile things those H1's are, drive a Prius instead, I do :downspin:

[DarrinS]

not the h1, my friend


People need their uban assult vehicles to take on the off-road trip to HEB and Starbucks.

[violentkitten]

the h1 is the ultimate driving machine for san antonio de bexar. is that '91 ford escort going 40 in front of you on 1604 pissing you off? fuck changing lanes to pass it.

[DarrinS]

Let's see,... the H1's are really big. People that buy H1's must be compensating for something really small. Hmmm,... what could it be?

[violentkitten]

dunno. guess todd's feeling pretty threatened by thad.

[Extra Stout]

Let's see,... the H1's are really big. People that buy H1's must be compensating for something really small. Hmmm,... what could it be?
See, here's the misconception. The Spurs welcome fans into the arena no matter how small their penises are.

[Booyah30]

Are you guys serious?? It is not a sellout!!! You guys need to appreciate what you have and support the Spurs. That is a crime your building is not sold out. I know you guys beat us, but ask what the atmosphere was like in Game 5. Don't take for granted what you have.

[violentkitten]

puro san antonio has been priced out of the building.

[Extra Stout]

Are you guys serious?? It is not a sellout!!! You guys need to appreciate what you have and support the Spurs. That is a crime your building is not sold out. I know you guys beat us, but ask what the atmosphere was like in Game 5. Don't take for granted what you have.
Did they give out free T-shirts in Phoenix?

[LilMissSPURfect]

Yeah, but in Salt Lake I'm sure they give out free T-shirts. :toast :toast :lol :lol :lol


left for a couple of hours and this thing is still rolling.....WOW

[LilMissSPURfect]

Did they give out free T-shirts in Phoenix?


2 x :lol :lol :toast :toast

[LilMissSPURfect]

welll Spurstalk tshirts were awesome!

[DarrinS]

Are you guys serious?? It is not a sellout!!! You guys need to appreciate what you have and support the Spurs. That is a crime your building is not sold out. I know you guys beat us, but ask what the atmosphere was like in Game 5. Don't take for granted what you have.


I think that Phoenix crowd in game 5 helped fuel the Spurs win in game 6. There's no way the Spurs wanted to go back there.

[judaspriestess]

Are you guys serious?? It is not a sellout!!! You guys need to appreciate what you have and support the Spurs. That is a crime your building is not sold out. I know you guys beat us, but ask what the atmosphere was like in Game 5. Don't take for granted what you have.

wow booyah you made a very, very valid point!! :lol

Its a shame isn't it.

[Extra Stout]

Sun fan needs to understand:

1) Puro San Antonio has been priced out of the building
2) Puro San Antonio, despite not being able to get into building, dominates 'Club 200'
3) Apparently Puro San Antonio tricked security into thinking they were the custodial staff, or food service
4) Suburb Fan won't go to the game because he wants to bang his neighbor's wife on his neighbor's new suede chair instead
5) Suburb Fan doesn't want to be around Puro San Antonio, even though Puro San Antonio has been priced out of the building, except for the ones who snuck into 'Club 200'
6) The Spurs suck at marketing because they don't advertise to Suburb Fan that they have priced Puro San Antonio out of the building, and also they don't give out free T-shirts or discount hot dogs.

After reading all of this, I'm sure you understand why San Antonio won't support the Spurs, dynasty or no dynasty.

[violentkitten]

apparently the counties surrounding bexar county are full of upper middle class hummer h1 driving diehard spurs fans who like hanging out with puro san antonio in nosebleed seats.

[Extra Stout]

apparently the counties surrounding bexar county are full of upper middle class hummer h1 driving diehard spurs fans who like hanging out with puro san antonio in nosebleed seats.
If only they were... :depressed

[DarrinS]

Are stout and violentkitty the same person?

[violentkitten]

the spurs fans in their mid 20s to mid 30s who are banking and wouldn't mind dropping $400 or whatever on a playoff game are not in san antonio de bexar. they are in houston, dfw, austin, nyc, la, seattle, dc, etc...but not in san antonio. the best you can hope for is that they make it back every playoffs for a game or two.

[cholo]

the spurs fans in their mid 20s to mid 30s who are banking and wouldn't mind dropping $400 or whatever on a playoff game are not in san antonio de bexar. they are in houston, dfw, austin, nyc, la, seattle, dc, etc...but not in san antonio. the best you can hope for is that they make it back every playoffs for a game or two.

for realz. my engineer primo left for indianapolis and left me here with mi pinche ruca and mijo

[DarrinS]

the spurs fans in their mid 20s to mid 30s who are banking and wouldn't mind dropping $400 or whatever on a playoff game are not in san antonio de bexar. they are in houston, dfw, austin, nyc, la, seattle, dc, etc...but not in san antonio. the best you can hope for is that they make it back every playoffs for a game or two.


I'm not really in a position to drop a car payment every other day so I can be a cheerleader.

[bdictjames]

Damn if I wasn't so far from San Antonio Id buy tickets for the family

[cholo]

Spurs/Jazz: 3 more people & we'll have enough for a riot!
By Roy Bragg
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/atlarge/


My pleas for "Anarchy in SA" didn't fall on deaf ears. Remember, you can be loud and angry now, or you can be morose and bitter like those losers in Dallas and Phoenix.

It's your choice.


I'd love to go to a Spurs playoff game. Sadly, with a family of 4 (two parents, two teenaged sons) I can't afford it on a teacher's salary. It sux to be me.

Judi


The Anchor Desk responds: Hang in there, Judi. You're helping shape lives and the community is grateful. Here's an idea: Drop your kids off at the Ray Rangel American Legion Hall with their gloves and a note that says they're there to play baseball. Then drive off in a hurry, go to the AT&T and try to score scalped tickets for 2. If you can't do that, just keeping abusing people on the Internet.



I agree with you about the fans at home games.When I see the games on TV, it is hardly loud; almost if the Spurs are the worst team in the league. What is the point of going to the game if you are not going to get into it . I remember at Alamodome being louder and that's a huge place. I thought when we got the AT&T center it was going to be the best it was smaller and louder, but its not it looks like the fans only clap when we make a basket. They sit when we are behind and it gets quiet if we are down and stays like that until the Spurs make a push. It should be the fans pushing the Spurs, not the Spurs making the fans loud. When I am at home, I am yelling and acting like I am there, cursing at the other team to choke like I did against the Suns. Fans need to get into more and act like true fans and cheer from the tip off to the last horn and be on their feet the whole time. The rest of the country doesn't want the Spurs to win, so San Antonio needs to get up and let the country know they are bring home number 4. The Spurs are the best in the league, so we as fans need to be the best in the league also. SO GET LOUD TONIGHT AND BRING THE HATE.

Lance


The Anchor Desk responds: Good call on the upper case to end the email. Nothing says "hate" like e-screaming. Well done, sir.


I know what you mean about the crowd. I sat in the nosebleed seats and there wasn't one person around me that ever yelled or cheered. Once in a while they got off their feet — once when Horry checked in for the first time — but that was it. They should have stayed home. I wanted to yell at them to start cheering but it would have been useless. I have no idea why they were there if they weren't going to make some noise. I had to yell and scream for my entire section. They better do a better job tonight.

Dana


The Anchor Desk responds: You could threaten some people. Or buy hot coffee at the concession stand and then splash it on a few people to get them in the right frame of mind. Good luck tonight!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I had no idea that the catch phrase this season is Get Ready! Get Loud! i have talked to many of my friends who also watch every Spurs game and none of them had an inkling that it was either. That says something about the marketing team for the Spurs when a group of rabid fans doesnt pick up on that.

i havent bbeen to a game this year beig a a poor college student but last year when i went it was the same stupid production that they had on when i went as a k9id back in 1995.

This whole thing kind of pisses me off. i watched the game on Sunday and had i known that there were seats available i would have hauled ass downtown to see it live. i hate the production but the team still makes me want to go. Fact is I didnt know so i watched the game like many others on ABC.

All i have to say to the Spurs marketing team is fuck you. Its your failure not mine. Maybe they should not wait til after the fact to sell their tickets.

[SpursWoman]

I have 2 kids that need to be in bed on time, and really don't know anyone that will babysit at my house so we can go.

So, I won't be able to attend any games until at least next week...when school is out. But then the Spurs will be in Utah...so I guess that makes me a bad fan, too.

[LilMissSPURfect]

http://cgi.ebay.com/SPURS-PLAYOFF-TIX-GAME-2-DONT-MISS-OUT_W0QQitemZ120123106127QQihZ002QQcategoryZ16122Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


two tickets for 5 bucks. 1hr to go.
sold fer $61.00 believe me im bidding like crazy for tix

[Mavs<Spurs]

I think there are alot of reasons that factor into why this is happening.

1. It's the Jazz. It's not Dallas or Phoenix, hell I think even Golden State would draw more excitement than Utah. It's not the WCF we were all anticipating. Utah vs San Antonio isn't going to be exciting to the casual fan (which the majority of Spurs fans our, in my opinion).

2. Prices of Tickets. I know there are tons of tickets on Ebay, StubHub, etc. But the original sales of tickets from Ticketmaster, is where the casual fan is going to start. Sorry, maybe some of you can afford $54 bucks for a seat half way up Club 200 for every home playoff game, but I can't. I got a damn good deal on my HD TV that I spent my entire tax return on and I'm going to get a hell of a lot of good use out of it. I can see the action way better on my TV than I ever could at the ATT, and having friends over is just as good as any playoff experience in an arena (sans The Finals).

3. Spurs PR is shit. When's the last time we had a "Blackout"? When's the last time they gave away anything we see these teams like GSW, Utah, the Heat, even in Dallas they get clapper thingies! Those maracas were the best thing they ever gave away, they made a hell of alot of noise and were annoying as hell but they worked. They brought the arena together and made SA look like a rabid bunch of fans.

4. Prices of The Game Experience. Let's say we spend that $54 per ticket. That's about $120 with taxes and "convenience" charges for two people. Cheapest parking is $8 (I'm not sure if that's still right, I haven't been to a game since last season.) Then if you want a soda or beer that's what like $6 to $7 (so $14 for two people, and that's just one beverage). God forbid you want to eat at the game (easily $25 for two people). And these silly vendors don't even take credit/debit cards for pete's sake! You could easily spend $150-$175 for ONE game. That's fucking insane!

5. Gas prices are kicking our asses. With gas being $3/gal alot of people don't have the kind of money to throw down to get to the arena. Getting to work and school usually come first before going to a game for most people.

I love the Spurs to death but if they want to put the blame entirely on the Spurs being "spoiled" or "lazy" or whatever that's there prerogative. I just think they just take these factors into consideration before they go throwing all this blame on us.


Great points, Ginofan!!!

I have to agree.

3 games in 5 days, not to mention that this game is on a Tuesday night.

total cost of experience is pricey

I didn't know that Ebay sold Spurs tickets and I don't think that I'm the only one. My wife has bought and sold stuff on Ebay, but I haven't and I don't have a clue how it works.

cost of tickets listed as available are now more expensive

Those are the main points. It's compounded by the fact that we are playing the Jazz.

[degenerate_gambler]

I have 2 kids that need to be in bed on time, and really don't know anyone that will babysit at my house so we can go.

So, I won't be able to attend any games until at least next week...when school is out. But then the Spurs will be in Utah...so I guess that makes me a bad fan, too.


same boat as you...

i'll make up for it in the Finals.

[easjer]

I have 2 kids that need to be in bed on time, and really don't know anyone that will babysit at my house so we can go.

So, I won't be able to attend any games until at least next week...when school is out. But then the Spurs will be in Utah...so I guess that makes me a bad fan, too.


Hello! That is what sedatives and cribs are for. A TRUE fan would know that. So dope them up and lock up the house tight (and the matches, just in case, right?) and go buy your $50 a pair scalped tickets and show your true fandom!

:rolleyes

[LilMissSPURfect]

Hello! That is what sedatives and cribs are for. A TRUE fan would know that. So dope them up and lock up the house tight (and the matches, just in case, right?) and go buy your $50 a pair scalped tickets and show your true fandom!

:rolleyes


next thing ya know MARY WALKEeeeer ksat 12 news will b camped out in your living doing the child neglected story!

[DarrinS]

I have 2 kids that need to be in bed on time, and really don't know anyone that will babysit at my house so we can go.

So, I won't be able to attend any games until at least next week...when school is out. But then the Spurs will be in Utah...so I guess that makes me a bad fan, too.



me too.


Someone is going to post that you would leave the kids in the car with the windows cracked if you were a REAL fan.

[LilMissSPURfect]

Someone is going to post that you would leave the kids in the car with the windows cracked if you were a REAL fan.


:lol :lol

[SpursWoman]

Hello! That is what sedatives and cribs are for. A TRUE fan would know that. So dope them up and lock up the house tight (and the matches, just in case, right?) and go buy your $50 a pair scalped tickets and show your true fandom!

:rolleyes


We were actually contemplating that for the last GTG ... it was right across the highway from my house, when they are usually about 15-20 miles away. We decided against it though, since they changed the formula of Dimetapp....it's not as good. :lol

[degenerate_gambler]

next thing ya know MARY WALKEeeeer ksat 12 news will b camped out in your living doing the child neglected story!


that bitch used to annoy me to no end..

[easjer]

:lol

[degenerate_gambler]

We were actually contemplating that for the last GTG ... it was right across the highway from my house, when they are usually about 15-20 miles away. We decided against it though, since they changed the formula of Dimetapp....it's not as good. :lol


maybe nyquil is the way to go then :drunk

[DuncanInYourFace]

This one is on the spurs PR. We need a "Blackout" to get fans excited.

[Extra Stout]

I have 2 kids that need to be in bed on time, and really don't know anyone that will babysit at my house so we can go.

So, I won't be able to attend any games until at least next week...when school is out. But then the Spurs will be in Utah...so I guess that makes me a bad fan, too.
Would you insist the babysitter bring free T-shirts?

[LilMissSPURfect]

Would you insist the babysitter bring free T-shirts?


:lol :lol :lol :married:

[LilMissSPURfect]

that bitch used to annoy me to no end..


:p: still does...i think she's a cps (child protec) spokesperson or something

[Dex]

If I didn't live a city away and have to work, I would have already bought tickets.

[SpursWoman]

Would you insist the babysitter bring free T-shirts?


No ... I think I can handle some tshirts. :lol

[dbreiden83080]

Hopefully there is a bunch of people at the BO right now buying tickets but probably not.

[tony09manu]

KSAT 12 reported that it is now a sellout.

[SpursDynasty]

I have no clue why the Spurs-Jazz WCF games aren't selling out.

The Spurs and Jazz have been the two best teams in the NBA all year.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Well I got tired of playing the E-bay game and got some tickets straight off of Stubhub.....


and now my 3 yr old vomited up in the dining room.

[cholo]

KSAT 12 reported that it is now a sellout.

i just found some on tix master

[BobcatsDynasty]

I have no clue why the Spurs-Jazz WCF games aren't selling out.

The Spurs and Jazz have been the two best teams in the NBA all year.

No they haven't. When they beat them, the Bobcats were simply beating teams they were supposed to beat. They're both flukes, just like you.

[tony09manu]

i just found some on tix master

As others have mentioned, they go by the amount of tickets bought directly from the Spurs, not ticket brokers.

[cholo]

Well I got tired of playing the E-bay game and got some tickets straight off of Stubhub.....


and now my 3 yr old vomited up in the dining room.

tell him he better keep it in next time, or you'll give him something to throw up about

[LilMissSPURfect]

i just found some on tix master

that damn media

Section Row Type Ticket Price Building Facility Charge Convenience Charge Description
119 34 Full Price Ticket US $139.00 US $1.35 US $5.25
PLAZA LEVEL
PRICE LEVEL 7 SEATING
PRICE LEVEL 7
119 34 Full Price Ticket US $139.00 US $1.35 US $5.25

yep still available

[EvenFlow]

To me this whole idea that this is relevant news outside of SA is sensationalism. There are perfectly logical reasons why the last game didn't sell out.
1.)Quick turnaround, beating PHX at home then playing another home game just a couple days later.
2.) San Antonio is not a wealthy city (as everyone except Hardberger and Judge Wolff knows)
3. Playoff tickets are really expensive ( I went to the first game of the postseason for the Spurs, I think the cheapest ticket was $9, now its $23, so there was a dramatic price hike.
4) Complaceny. The overwhelmingly feeling that the Jazz can't be us, so lets save up money for the NBA Finals
5) Utah Jazz. I for one love teams that play good basketball like the Jazz, but they're even more old school than the Spurs, they don't have a Lebron James.

[tony09manu]

that damn media

Section Row Type Ticket Price Building Facility Charge Convenience Charge Description
119 34 Full Price Ticket US $139.00 US $1.35 US $5.25
PLAZA LEVEL
PRICE LEVEL 7 SEATING
PRICE LEVEL 7
119 34 Full Price Ticket US $139.00 US $1.35 US $5.25

yep still available

Greg Simmons just said it again...xD

[Das Texan]

Why is this fucking game at 8 oclock at night?


Thats just stupid.

[LilMissSPURfect]

Greg Simmons just said it again...xD

again i checked and new set of seats

https://www.ticketmaster.com/checkout/order?v=SX-ZzCoEF882XEihwwAn_oVzmQM-saiVJVWq-pnNU2Ciq-lE3O2Up_Y2z2Ykg7N_7UxRDLOwzKYPFCM0hqY9NHAAlPa87Wzv EimBo8R2Fc0FYjHM8aXVd-9m-75DYeutlw
106 21 Full Price Ticket US $189.00 US $1.35 US $5.25
PLAZA LEVEL
PRICE LEVEL 4 SEATING
PRICE LEVEL 5
106 21 Full Price Ticket US $189.00 US $1.35

[dbreiden83080]

Greg Simmons just said it again...xD

Well if they are reporting it they must at least be mighty close to a sell out, looks like they will sell out still a few hours till tipoff.

[SA210]

just for the record... when I called Ticketmasters on Saturday to get tickets for Go Diego Go the great jaguar rescue... there was a voice recording trelling me that if I was calling for Spurs tickets I was SOL because they were all sold out.

Exactly, Same here. And the same happened to many more. I do blame Ticketmaster for the 1st game, this here is proof of that. People thought they were sold out and that's what they were told for both Games 1 and 2. That's a fact. Period.

I think yesterday was too early to panic about Game 2. All the talk and criticism about the Game 1 non-sellout made this an issue (news worthy), (without disclosing that thousands of people were told that nothing was available).

Now that they are letting people know that tickets are still available, after all (without admitting the Ticketmaster foul up) I'm sure everything will be fine. It was only 1000 tickets available yesterday, not 3000. There is still today's sales and the walk-up crowd.
:sleep

[longrod]

San Antonio just kissed the NFL goodbye for the next 25 years. The NFL would laugh at an owner who wanted to bring a team to a city that couldn't sell out Western Conference Finals tickets.


I wonder about that. While this certainly looks bad, it is no secret that South Texas is football country. Hell, high school football is lot bigger here than the Spurs.



And the way it's looking, I'm not sure the Spurs can survive here long-term. You can't sell out WCF, WTF is going to happen when the Spurs suck again?

St. Louis.

I doubt that . San Antonio is growing very fast and much more importantly, the demographics are finally changing toward the yuppier end of the spectrum. The bottom line is that there really aren't that many people with serious disposable income in San Antonio, at least not after the mandatory Escalade or F-250 King Ranch payments. And many of those who do are more interested in traditional "white" sports like golf and gardening...

Admittedly, the change in this city is painfully slow and subject to frequent missteps like those Clusterfuck Towers by the Court House that are advertised as "luxury condos". Luxury, my ass!

[SA210]

I put in a call to all the news stations about Ticketmaster telling thousands of people that they were sold out of tickets for Games 1 and 2, then all of a sudden tickets appear.

Hopefully we see a story on this. Kens 5 and KSAT were the ones mostly interested in doing a story on it. We'll see.

[TheWriter]

Well, ESPN lists tonights game as a sell out.

[milkyway21]

i think Spurs vs Rockets could be a sell-out WC than Utah.

only those 2 All-Star TMAc & Yao failed to deliver. Chose to follow Dirk...:oops

[jbspurs]

Thats what the Spurs need to find out. Its their job to sell tickets and if people aren't buying the tickets then there is obviously a problem. A Spurs official who "shakes his head" and says shit like that should be pissed at the Spurs organization that can't get these tickets sold.


A lot of people know that Jazz doesn't have a lot to offer to compete or challenge the Spurs. I bet you, If the Jazz endup winning the next two games.... game 5 will be sold out.

[KEDA]

And many of those who do are more interested in traditional "white" sports like golf and gardening...



why does it always have to be a race issue?

Just because Im "white" doesn't mean anything, IIRC the most dominate player in golf isn't "white".


I fucking hate it when race is an issue.

[johngateswhiteley]

why does it always have to be a race issue?

Just because Im "white" doesn't mean anything, IIRC the most dominate player in golf isn't "white".


I fucking hate it when race is an issue.


race is always...and never, an issue.

[Ginofan]

I got a free ticket at the last minute so I got to enjoy the game there. It was actually alot louder than I had anticipated and I was sitting in the lower bowl. Those fans were just as rowdy as ones I have sat by in the upper deck. It was nice of San Antonio to show up, it was a great game.

[velik_m]

The tickets for UEFA champions league starts at 3000 EUR (=4000 USD).

You guys are just cheap.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

The tickets for UEFA champions league starts at 3000 EUR (=4000 USD).

You guys are just cheap.?? you serious?? I never knew that. Are we talking about the final? 'cause I could understand if it was the finals.

[velik_m]

?? you serious?? I never knew that. Are we talking about the final? 'cause I could understand if it was the finals.

yeah the finals. The black market prices are already over 5000 EUR.

[rascal]

biggest reason i can see...


- the opponent this round.


higher ticket prices are an excuse, not the problem. if one was really excited, they'd find a way to come up with the scratch needed to get in the door.

exactly. Utah is viewed as boring and a bad draw. So the interest level across the board including the people who can afford the games is down enough that the games are close to not being sold out.

If the opponent was more attractive or the ticket prices were more affordable to open up more of the fan base who can go to the games then there would not be a problem with sellouts.

[longrod]

why does it always have to be a race issue?


Because we're 70 miles from Utopia.