Parker appears to be coming of age...

[tru2ou]

The little guy is playing beautifully isn't he? Remember when he use to get abused in the playoffs. Not anymore this guy has turned into a wonderful player.

P.S. Speed Kills

[nkdlunch]

Parker is awesome. He is young. but he has been playing for many years already. I will give him the benefit of the doubt, because with his experience he should be smarter at times.

but he is still young and has the potential to become one of the top 5 best PGs ever to play the game.

[SpursIndonesia]

Good job so far as a distributor, go Tony !!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yep, a couple more careless passes and he can have a triple double with points, assists, and turnovers :lol

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Yep, a couple more careless passes and he can have a triple double with points, assists, and turnovers :lol


beat me to it. In fairness to tony though, i think he only had one turnover in the first half....not sure what's going on in this second half, the whole team looks a bit sloppy

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

beat me to it. In fairness to tony though, i think he only had one turnover in the first half....not sure what's going on in this second half, the whole team looks a bit sloppy

It's not sloppy play. It's arrogance.

[Spurologist]

Yep, a couple more careless passes and he can have a triple double with points, assists, and turnovers :lol

He tried to keep assist turnover ratio 2:1 throughout the game. On his 7th turnover he said fuck it and tried to pull a Nash between defenders. Lucky pop spared his ass.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nba/players/2005/3527.jpg

T. Parker
7-12, 14 pts
14 ASSISTS 7 TURNOVERS ( yep it's 2:1)

[Man Mountain]

It's not sloppy play. It's arrogance.

Oh please. It's just sloppy play by the whole team. A couple of Parker's turnovers could have easily been accessed to another player. I can't believe you find a way to bag on a guy who gets 17 and 14. Does he need to steady himself? Sure. But you are damn obnoxious.

[Cry Havoc]

I'll take 14 assists and 7 turnovers from Tony any night. Esp. considering 1 or 2 of the turnovers is usually bunk.

He's absolutely dominant. He's finding those men on the wings like it's nobody's business.

[gilmor]

Oh please. It's just sloppy play by the whole team. A couple of Parker's turnovers could have easily been accessed to another player. I can't believe you find a way to bag on a guy who gets 17 and 14. Does he need to steady himself? Sure. But you are damn obnoxious.

Ignore Aggie's posts on Parker, he just has got a hatred for Parker.. that's all..

[anonymous coward]

6-6 fg in 1st half

1-6 fg in 2nd

[FireSternin2007]

You know how they say that you just have to play the cards that you are dealt in life and how you just do the best you can blah blah blah and how men are created equal? Well, after Tony gets done celebrating tonight, he'll get in his Bentley or Mercedes or BMW or whichever he felt like driving, cruise over to his mega mansion, and be greeted by Eva Longoria. Damn damn damn damn damn double damn. (I wouldn't be so pissed if the Jazz would just compete with you guys for 48 minutes instead of around 30)

[Mavs<Spurs]

It is true that Tony can't make anything in the second half and this has been a problem for him for years.

Is it conditioning?

What is the deal?

:bang

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Ignore Aggie's posts on Parker, he just has got a hatred for Parker.. that's all..

Yep, we should all embrace stupid, pointless, turnovers. You think we win with 24 turnovers in Utah?

Look, this is one of the best games I've seen him play, I just think it would have been better without a couple of really stupid pass plays that were a result of overconfidence/arrogance.

[Man Mountain]

6-6 fg in 1st half

1-6 fg in 2nd

Guarded loosely by DW - 1st half
Guarded tightly by Fish - 2nd half
Give some credit to the opponents sometimes for adjusting to him killing them.

[easjer]

Well in this game, he kept getting stripped in the paint with no calls or having to shoot on a hurried shot clock.

It was less about just terrible play and more about the overall way the team was playing and the game was going.

[fred33]

8 Ass On The 2nd Half With The Defense On Him

[ChumpDumper]

Yep, we should all embrace stupid, pointless, turnovers. You think we win with 24 turnovers in Utah?
If we outrebound them again and hold them to 44% while we shoot 56%, yes -- we will win.

It'll take some time to adjust to the trap. That's what days off are for.

[Chris]

Well, he's got Kerr's ex-shooting coach Chip Engelland (probably typo) and that ugly jumpshot has turned into one of the prettiest jumper's in the league. Teams used to dare him to shoot that shot, now it's made him pretty much unguardable.

[easjer]

Yep, we should all embrace stupid, pointless, turnovers. You think we win with 24 turnovers in Utah?

Of course not Aggie, but let's not forget some monumentally dumb plays by Manu and Timmy. Tony, by virtue of being the point guard, had more opportunity for bad passes.

He committed less than a third of those TOs. Too many, yes, and some dumb ones, yes.

But hardly all his fault. The Jazz did a really good job of adjusting and trying to stop the pick and roll and Tony's penetration in particular.

[Man Mountain]

8 Ass On The 2nd Half With The Defense On Him

Exactly. 8 assists in the 2nd half was phenomenol. But yeah, let's key on his 4 turnovers in the 2nd half (one of which was actually on Manu).

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm not talking about getting stripped in the paint. I'm talking about the fast ball behind Duncan (which he actually stared down Duncan about - wtf? :lol), the lead pass to Manu that was way ahead/over his head, and the pass in the fourth where he was trying to thread it over Deron's head/past Okur/past AK47 to TD.

[easjer]

Manu had the same number of points, 11 fewer assists, and FIVE (5) TOs. I'd say that perhaps that is equally bad if not worse.

[ChumpDumper]

This team always gets fancy with the passes when they are winning. Parker, Manu, Oberto all did it tonight.

[anonymous coward]

Guarded loosely by DW - 1st half
Guarded tightly by Fish - 2nd half
Give some credit to the opponents sometimes for adjusting to him killing them.

i dont think so, everybody knows parker's tendency to dissapear in the 2nd half

[ChumpDumper]

i dont think so, everybody knows parker's tendency to dissapear in the 2nd halfEveryone also knows the anti-Parker bias many bring to the board.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

This team always gets fancy with the passes when they are winning. Parker, Manu, Oberto all did it tonight.

Yep, that's what's frustrating. You don't have to make everything a Sportscenter highlight. Just run your damn offense.

[gilmor]

I'm not talking about getting stripped in the paint. I'm talking about the fast ball behind Duncan (which he actually stared down Duncan about - wtf? :lol), the lead pass to Manu that was way ahead/over his head, and the pass in the fourth where he was trying to thread it over Deron's head/past Okur/past AK47 to TD.

I agreed Tony has some really stupid turnovers.. But who won't given his age? On the one hand, you continuously find fault with him is fine but on the other, you need to give credit when it's due. Like he makes some clutch shots in the 4th quarter which he will never make in playoffs past..

I see a lot of improvement in the Parker today than last year's.. and I am happy for the Spurs. Ultimately, it is the Big 3 playing well that makes the Spurs win

[Man Mountain]

i dont think so, everybody knows parker's tendency to dissapear in the 2nd half

I guess you haven't watched the 2007 playoffs when he's knocked down big shots in the fourth quarter of nearly every game.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I agreed Tony has some really stupid turnovers.. But who won't given his age? On the one hand, you continuously find fault with him is fine but on the other, you need to give credit when it's due. Like he makes some clutch shots in the 4th quarter which he will never make in playoffs past..

I see a lot of improvement in the Parker today than last year's.. and I am happy for the Spurs. Ultimately, it is the Big 3 playing well that makes the Spurs win

The three was welcome and a surprise, no complaints here. But the thing about that shot? He was open in the corner. Big difference between that and the possessions in the fourth where he tried to go one on Utah and got stuffed, and then fell to the ground looking for a foul.

[ducks]

tp has found some players open late in the fourth
hit some big jumpers
he has improved
all players have stupid turnovers now and then
chauncy had 7 last game

[ducks]

nash had 8 turnovers one game
6 in another against spurs

[ducks]

The three was welcome and a surprise, no complaints here. But the thing about that shot? He was open in the corner. Big difference between that and the possessions in the fourth where he tried to go one on Utah and got stuffed, and then fell to the ground looking for a foul.
yeah no other spur player ever would ever do that

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Hell hath frozen on this board: Parker is passing too much?!?! :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Man of Steel]

Yup--the lad has grown up.

He's even banging a babe, now.

[ducks]

yes

manu had 5 turnovers 3 assist
one turnover on tp should be manu's
spurs were being a little careless with the lead

[Behrooz24]

No (called) travels tonight!

[tru2ou]

Yep, that's what's frustrating. You don't have to make everything a Sportscenter highlight. Just run your damn offense.

Maybe they are trying to shake that boring label.

[picnroll]

Not bagging on Manu but why all the BS for Parker when Manu had 3 assists and 5 TOs and threw some pretty crappy passes himself. I'll take 14 - 7 thanks, particularly when many of those 14 were for open threes.

[aaronstampler]

Normally I'd go apopylectic over the 7 TOs, but 14 dimes is 14 dimes. As long as the dude's got a 2:1 ratio, it's fine by me. Manu was pretty careless with the ball too. It was a wild, sloppy, entertaining game. It's like both teams are really trying hard to shake the boring label.

It's funny, the other series has megastar dunk machine LeBron James in it, but our series will outscore theirs by about 50 points a game.

[T Park]

Tony parker can do no right.

[aaronstampler]

Tony parker can do no right.

Brought to you by the guy who likes Manu as long as he gets 30 and 10 a night.

[wildbill2u]

If all out players had been a little more patient with the ball (Pop in a huddle asked for them to cut down the speed of play by only 5%) we wouldn't have had 22 TOs.

It would have been a rout all the way through to the end.

Perhaps some of those at the end of the 4th were due to fatigue because they played their asses off for three quarters.

[MadDog73]

Can't we all just get along? :lol

Seriously, let's save the hate for when we actually lose a game. Nobody's perfect.

[hater]

14 assists. STFU to the Tony haters

[Mitch Cumsteen]

I really don't get the criticism of Parker. He's obviously not perfect, but the guy has gotten better every year he's been in the league. Say what you want about his over penetrating or him not being a true pass first point guard, but you can't say the guy hasn't worked his ass off to improve his game. He (and the coaching staff) deserves a ton of credit for what he's been able to accomplish.

Look where he came from to where he is now? He couldn't throw the ball into the ocean two seasons ago. Now people have to respect his jumpshot and he's so fast and such a good finisher at the rim, he's a nightmare to try to stop. Plus, he's just gotten smarter and smarter with his decision making.

I always felt like Duncan and Ginobili played at a much higher level than Parker, but I really don't feel that way anymore. If you can't recognize the improvement in his game, then you just haven't been paying attention.

[Slomo]

I really don't get the criticism of Parker. He's obviously not perfect, but the guy has gotten better every year he's been in the league. Say what you want about his over penetrating or him not being a true pass first point guard, but you can't say the guy hasn't worked his ass off to improve his game. He (and the coaching staff) deserves a ton of credit for what he's been able to accomplish.

Look where he came from to where he is now? He couldn't throw the ball into the ocean two seasons ago. Now people have to respect his jumpshot and he's so fast and such a good finisher at the rim, he's a nightmare to try to stop. Plus, he's just gotten smarter and smarter with his decision making.

I always felt like Duncan and Ginobili played at a much higher level than Parker, but I really don't feel that way anymore. If you can't recognize the improvement in his game, then you just haven't been paying attention.
Beat me to it :tu

He has not only improved every year but he's done that at a pretty high rate.

[SAGambler]

I think some of Manu's toughness has rubbed off on Tony too. Remember when he would drive, take a big hit a couple of times and then seemed to back off?

Maybe watching Manu take those hits, get up and keep driving has gotten Tony into the right frame of mind.

[timvp]

Parker in the first half was about as good as a point guard can play.

[DarrinS]

I'm not too worried about Tony "fading" as he's tended to do in previous playoffs.

Actually, I think TP is a very underrated player, especially his defense.

[ducks]

tp was so mad at duncan for talking to him his rookie season
he did not pout he went out to prove to his teamates that he could do it