Something for Spurs fans to think about

[tlongII]

Cleveland was 2-0 against San Antonio this season.

:spless:

[TampaDude]

Cleveland was 2-0 against San Antonio this season.

:spless:

We're not playing the Cavs, so it doesn't matter... :lol

[CubanMustGo]

And Utah was 3-0 in SLC before last night. Your point?

[tru2ou]

Draft pick gave you some Gonads Huh?

[mattyc]

I'd back our playoff experience over their palpable inexperience.

[Aud21946]

Draft pick gave you some Gonads Huh?

Nice ... I bet pistons and Cavs go 7!
:devil

[LilMissSPURfect]

Cleveland was 2-0 against San Antonio this season.

:spless:


we also lost to the BOBCATS... :drunk

[dav4463]

and the mavs were crowned champion at the start of the season.

[whottt]

The Cavs scare me..

They know our system inside and out from the FO on down...

We have no one that can guard LeBron...he plays like Banzi against us...only with passing.

Bruce is too small...and LeBron takes full advantage of that fact.

Finley is stocky enough to where maybe he can slow him down...but I don't see it happening.

That's the team that's going to get us for not having a SF IMO.

[Jimcs50]

Just like last year with AJ, the Cavs have coaches that know how to beat Pop's sytem.

I do not want to play the Cavs

[Russ]

Something for Portland fans to think about . . .

How 'bout them Beavers!

[cherylsteele]

We never had won a playoff game in Utah until game 4, so what is your point?

[fuckespn]

Are people here serious that they are afraid of the cleveland cavs?

[Cry Havoc]

The Cavs scare me..

They know our system inside and out from the FO on down...

We have no one that can guard LeBron...he plays like Banzi against us...only with passing.

Bruce is too small...and LeBron takes full advantage of that fact.

Finley is stocky enough to where maybe he can slow him down...but I don't see it happening.

That's the team that's going to get us for not having a SF IMO.

So what? We let LeBron get his, and shut down everyone else without breaking a sweat. I mean, seriously, who's going to score outside of James? Boozer-lite... I mean, Gooden? Z? :lol

James might go for 40, but the Cavs will be lucky if the rest of his team gets that.

On the other end, players who can guard Tony: 0.
Players who can guard Duncan: :lmao.
Players who can guard Manu: 0.
Players who can guard Finley, Bruce, Horry: Well, 0, when they're quadruple teaming Duncan.

[Budkin]

There is no way in hell the Cavs would beat us in a 7-game series, are you kidding me? Besides, there is no way in hell they are going to win this series.

[T Park]

Yeah the Cavaliers are extremely frighenting.

:rolleyes

[mikekim]

hey pavlovic is no slouch (excellent, EXCELLENT pickup for my fantasy team this year....)

but yeah, out detroit and cleveland....can you honestly say that you fear cleveland more???

[ducks]

cavs got lucky with the techs

[SequSpur]

Pussies....

Spurs would sweep the Cavs.

[tlongII]

If the Cavs make it to the Finals they will win it. Guaranteed.

[ObiwanGinobili]

tlongs been so busy jacking off to this (http://media.timesleader.com/images/300*350/Draft_Lottery_05-23-2007_3S5JQR1.jpg) that I'm surprised he has time to post here at all.

[efrem1]

If the Cavs make it to the Finals they will win it. Guaranteed.

Movie time!! Starring tlong in...

http://www.badmovies.org/movies/troll/index.html :lol

[Budkin]

tlong, why must you torment us so? :lol

[twincam]

Cleveland was 2-0 against San Antonio this season.

:spless:

San Antonio is 3-0 in the NBA finals (1999,2003,2005, and coming soon, 2007).

There's something for you to think about.

[whottt]

Ya'll are wrong about Cleveland..

They are a much better team than you guys are giving them credit for....

They've whipped our asses once per year for about 3 years straight now too...and it's not a oh the Spurs didn't show up asswhuppin...it's a, holy crap LeBron is kicking our ass type of asswhuppin.

Mike Brown knows every weakness Tim Duncan has...and what he doesn't know...Ferry does.

We have a harder time stopping LeBron than they do stopping Duncan....


It'll be like Sac was last year...only tougher...better players, better defenders, same matchup issues with Bron we had with Bonzi.


And I don't buy into the rigged theory...but if there's one player the league wants to see arrive...it's LeBron...and if there is one team that beating will establish him above all others as elite...it's the Spurs.

The Cavs, after the Mavs, are the team that scares me the most in these playoffs as far as matchup issues.

[samikeyp]

Bask in your lottery glory my friend...at the moment...its all you have! :)

[samikeyp]

I agree about LeBron but I think it would be a case like against PHX in '05 and Amare. Let him get his and stop everyone else. That will be enough to win a series.

[whottt]

Spurs last 3 games against the Cavs...all Spurs losses...


NBA Scoreboard - February 13, 2006
SACLE87101 Final PORCHA9183 Final WASNOK9697 Final TORMIN9894 Final NYDAL72100 Final MEMGS8179 Final UTALAL8894 Final
San Antonio (40-11)Cleveland (30-21)87 101 1 2 3 4 T
San Antonio 19 25 18 25 87
Cleveland 18 27 26 30 101
Final
RecapShot ChartPlay-by-PlayBox Score


SAN ANTONIO SPURS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Bruce Bowen, SF 31 3-6 1-2 1-1 0 3 3 1 0 0 0 0 8
Tim Duncan, FC 37 7-14 0-0 5-7 3 7 10 5 1 1 1 1 19
Rasho Nesterovic, C 21 3-5 0-0 0-0 1 3 4 2 0 1 2 3 6
Tony Parker, PG 32 2-7 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 4 1 0 7 3 4
Manu Ginobili, SG 28 5-11 0-2 2-3 0 7 7 3 0 0 3 5 12
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Nazr Mohammed, C 17 3-4 0-0 2-4 2 2 4 0 0 1 3 3 8
Michael Finley, GF 18 2-4 2-4 1-2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 7
Sean Marks, FC 9 0-2 0-0 0-0 0 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0
Nick Van Exel, PG 19 2-5 1-1 0-0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 5
Fabricio Oberto, C 6 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0
Brent Barry, G 13 2-3 0-1 2-4 0 2 2 0 1 1 0 1 6
Beno Udrih, PG 9 4-4 3-3 1-3 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 12
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
33-65 7-13 14-24 6 29 35 19 3 5 18 17 87
50.8% 53.8% 58.3% Team TO (pts off): 18 (20)

CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
LeBron James, SF 41 19-33 1-3 5-8 2 1 3 5 4 0 2 0 44
Drew Gooden, PF 30 4-10 0-0 2-4 7 3 10 0 2 1 0 3 10
Zydrunas Ilgauskas, C 29 8-19 0-0 1-1 6 5 11 1 0 1 0 4 17
Eric Snow, PG 36 3-7 0-0 0-0 1 2 3 6 0 1 2 3 6
Sasha Pavlovic, GF 18 2-5 0-1 0-0 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 4 4
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Damon Jones, PG 25 2-3 1-2 0-0 0 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 5
Donyell Marshall, F 18 1-5 1-4 0-0 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 3
Stephen Graham, G 26 4-7 0-0 0-0 1 4 5 0 0 0 0 5 8
Anderson Varejao, FC 12 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 3 3 0 1 0 0 3 0
Mike Wilks, PG 2 2-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
Martynas Andriuskevicius, C 2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Alan Henderson, PF DNP COACH'S DECISION
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
45-92 3-10 8-13 18 23 41 16 7 3 5 22 101
48.9% 30.0% 61.5% Team TO (pts off): 6 (4)




NBA Scoreboard - November 3, 2006
NOKIND10091 Final PHIORL105103 Final MILTOR92109 Final NYATL92102 Final DETBOS10188 Final NJMIA8591 Final CLESA8881 Final CHAMEM8396 Final SACCHI8988 Final MINDEN112109 Final UTAPHO108104 Final PORGS89102 Final SEALAL112118 Final
Cleveland (2-0)San Antonio (1-1)88 81 1 2 3 4 T
Cleveland 23 20 19 26 88
San Antonio 18 18 20 25 81
Final
RecapShot ChartPlay-by-PlayBox Score


CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
LeBron James, SF 42 14-26 1-2 6-11 1 9 10 4 1 1 2 3 35
Drew Gooden, PF 29 3-6 0-0 3-3 2 7 9 1 2 1 1 3 9
Zydrunas Ilgauskas, C 28 4-9 0-0 2-5 2 9 11 1 0 1 1 6 10
Larry Hughes, SG 39 6-15 1-4 5-6 0 4 4 2 2 0 4 5 18
Eric Snow, PG 25 0-3 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 6 0 0 1 3 0
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Damon Jones, PG 24 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 2
Donyell Marshall, F 18 3-6 2-3 0-2 0 3 3 0 1 1 0 2 8
Anderson Varejao, FC 19 1-2 0-0 1-2 1 4 5 2 0 1 2 3 3
David Wesley, SG 14 1-3 0-0 1-1 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 2 3
Scot Pollard, C 2 0-2 0-0 0-0 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 0
Sasha Pavlovic, GF 1 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Shannon Brown, G DNP COACH'S DECISION
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
33-74 4-9 18-30 8 41 49 16 6 5 11 29 88
44.6% 44.4% 60.0% Team TO (pts off): 12 (7)

SAN ANTONIO SPURS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Bruce Bowen, SF 38 1-5 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 3 1 0 0 2 2
Tim Duncan, FC 39 8-14 0-0 9-19 1 11 12 5 0 1 5 3 25
Fabricio Oberto, C 19 2-2 0-0 0-0 2 4 6 0 0 0 0 4 4
Manu Ginobili, SG 31 5-11 3-7 1-3 0 4 4 1 0 1 3 3 14
Tony Parker, PG 35 8-16 0-0 5-8 0 5 5 5 0 0 3 0 21
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Michael Finley, GF 19 1-7 1-3 1-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 4
Francisco Elson, C 15 2-3 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 4 4
Beno Udrih, PG 13 2-7 1-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 5
Robert Horry, PF 20 0-4 0-3 0-0 2 6 8 0 0 0 1 5 0
Brent Barry, G 12 0-0 0-0 2-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 2 2
Jacque Vaughn, PG DNP COACH'S DECISION
Matt Bonner, FC DNP COACH'S DECISION
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
29-69 5-15 18-34 5 35 40 16 2 2 12 24 81
42.0% 33.3% 52.9% Team TO (pts off): 13 (17)






NBA Scoreboard - January 2, 2007
SACLE7882 Final LACORL8691 Final GSNOK9789 Final PHOCHI9796 Final SEADAL88112 Final PHIDEN10897 Final NYSAC100112 Final
San Antonio (23-9)Cleveland (18-12)78 82 1 2 3 4 T
San Antonio 21 19 10 28 78
Cleveland 21 12 11 38 82
Final
RecapShot ChartPlay-by-PlayBox Score


SAN ANTONIO SPURS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Bruce Bowen, SF 33 0-6 0-2 0-0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 4 0
Robert Horry, PF 24 2-5 1-2 0-0 2 5 7 1 1 0 0 2 5
Tim Duncan, FC 37 6-15 0-0 6-8 2 13 15 2 0 2 4 2 18
Manu Ginobili, SG 29 1-8 0-5 4-5 0 6 6 3 0 1 3 3 6
Tony Parker, PG 36 11-18 0-1 4-4 1 2 3 3 2 1 6 2 26
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Matt Bonner, FC 24 2-4 2-3 2-2 1 2 3 0 1 0 0 4 8
Brent Barry, G 24 1-4 1-3 1-1 0 3 3 3 1 0 2 4 4
Beno Udrih, PG 14 1-3 0-1 0-0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 2 2
Fabricio Oberto, C 11 2-7 0-0 0-0 2 3 5 0 0 0 0 1 4
Michael Finley, GF 8 2-3 1-2 0-0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 2 5
Eric Williams, GF DNP COACH'S DECISION
Jacque Vaughn, PG DNP COACH'S DECISION
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
28-73 5-19 17-20 9 36 45 14 8 4 17 26 78
38.4% 26.3% 85.0% Team TO (pts off): 18 (19)

CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
LeBron James, SF 40 7-17 0-1 5-11 0 5 5 5 2 0 3 1 19
Drew Gooden, PF 23 4-8 0-0 2-2 1 3 4 0 1 0 1 2 10
Zydrunas Ilgauskas, C 29 4-13 0-0 0-0 5 8 13 0 0 3 2 3 8
Larry Hughes, SG 36 6-12 4-6 2-4 1 4 5 5 3 0 4 3 18
Eric Snow, PG 33 0-3 0-0 1-2 0 4 4 3 4 0 1 0 1
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Anderson Varejao, FC 26 2-5 0-0 4-4 4 3 7 1 2 0 0 5 8
Damon Jones, PG 21 2-5 1-3 6-9 0 1 1 2 0 0 1 0 11
Daniel Gibson, G 5 1-1 1-1 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 3
Donyell Marshall, F 17 1-8 1-6 0-0 0 5 5 0 0 3 2 3 3
Sasha Pavlovic, GF 8 0-3 0-1 1-2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
27-75 7-18 21-34 11 33 44 16 12 8 14 17 82
36.0% 38.9% 61.8% Team TO (pts off): 14 (14)

[whottt]

Yeah we're really kicking LeBron's ass...he's only putting up about 35 a game and 8 board and 5 or so assists against us....


And to make matters worse, they have another SF that's been a royal bitch for us to stop in Donyel Marshall..



I don't see why people are laughing at the Cavs...they were built by Spurs. They play our D...and they have a SuperStar who can score, rebound or pass dominantly that we cannot come close to guarding...who handles the ball a lot.


Cavs are dangerous team for the Spurs, it's a bad matchup for us just like the Warriors were for Dallas...we won't be sweeping them if we end up playing them.

[Cry Havoc]

Yeah we're really kicking LeBron's ass...he's only putting up about 35 a game and 8 board and 5 or so assists against us....


And to make matters worse, they have another SF that's been a royal bitch for us to stop in Donyel Marshall..



I don't see why people are laughing at the Cavs...they were built by Spurs. They play our D...and they have a SuperStar who can score, rebound or pass dominantly that we cannot come close to guarding...who handles the ball a lot.


Cavs are dangerous team for the Spurs, it's a bad matchup for us just like the Warriors were for Dallas...we won't be sweeping them if we end up playing them.

Yeah. The 5 game Finals will be pretty boring, though. :depressed

[whottt]

I agree about LeBron but I think it would be a case like against PHX in '05 and Amare. Let him get his and stop everyone else. That will be enough to win a series.



I get the logic...except the Cavs aren't coached by D'antoni...

They're coached Mike Brown...they do play D, and that's sets them apart from the Suns in 05. In 05 we screwed up the Suns by running with them and playing transition D...

I'd take playing the Suns again, over attempting to matchup with the Cavs with no SF on our roster.



I just hope ducks is right about LeBron being a choker...but I don't think he is...he's too calm. I think he's going to turn out to be clutch.

[ShoogarBear]

Cleveland is a legitimate tough match-up for the Spurs.

Forgetting that we have no one who can matchup against LBJ, Ilgauskas is the kind of center who can give Duncan problems (although Oberto and even Elson should be of use here). Hughes lit them up in the last two games. Varejao, Gooden, and Marshall have more active legs than the Spurs frontline and could cause problems. And like you said, they understand the Spurs system.

Still can't see them winning the series, though.

[samikeyp]

I get the logic...except the Cavs aren't coached by D'antoni...

They're coached Mike Brown...they do play D, and that's sets them apart from the Suns in 05. In 05 we screwed up the Suns by running with them and playing transition D...

I'd take playing the Suns again, over attempting to matchup with the Cavs with no SF on our roster.



Very true. I do like the Spurs chances in playoff basketball though. It would not be easy but I think its just a different game and the Spurs seem to excel at it.

Hell I don't care who they play as long as SA gets another chance at a title! :)

[ATXSPUR]

Everybody pimpin the cavs as a nightmare matchup for us needs to re watch game 4 of the 05 finals.

[ShoogarBear]

Everybody pimpin the cavs as a nightmare matchup for us needs to re watch game 4 of the 05 finals.:huh

[TampaDude]

The Cavs would get smoked by the Spurs...

[ATXSPUR]

:huh

Remember? The 36 point beatdown the pistons administered to us.

[whottt]

:huh


Seconded....

I thought we got our asses kicked in game 4 of the 05 finals...

[whottt]

Remember? The 36 point beatdown the pistons administered to us.


And what is your point?

We matched up a hell of a lot better with the Pistons than the Cavs.

I am not dissing the Pistons who were tough as hell...but they didn't give us matchup issues, we had an answer for anything they could throw at us...

We have no answer for LeBron...none.


If we do end up meeting the Cavs in the finals...win or lose, SF will be our priority in the offseason.

[fuckespn]

I get the logic...except the Cavs aren't coached by D'antoni...

They're coached Mike Brown...they do play D, and that's sets them apart from the Suns in 05. In 05 we screwed up the Suns by running with them and playing transition D...

I'd take playing the Suns again, over attempting to matchup with the Cavs with no SF on our roster.



I just hope ducks is right about LeBron being a choker...but I don't think he is...he's too calm. I think he's going to turn out to be clutch.

We don't believe you, you need more people

[SsKSpurs21]

you better hope and pray greg oden doesnt turn out to be another sam bowie, bro.

[ATXSPUR]

And what is your point?

We matched up a hell of a lot better with the Pistons than the Cavs.

I am not dissing the Pistons who were tough as hell...but they didn't give us matchup issues, we had an answer for anything they could throw at us...

We have no answer for LeBron...none.


If we do end up meeting the Cavs in the finals...win or lose, SF will be our priority in the offseason.

I do not fear the cavs as much as the pistons for 3 reasons.

1. This is their first finals. Natural fear.
2. Inability to finish games on the road.
3.The defense is not near as good as the Pistons.

Do NOT let this so far subpar performance by the Pistons this series fool you. They CAN turn it on. They seem to turn it on in the finals as well. Cleveland has played near their best...detroit is not even close to playing their best.

[whottt]

I wish I was as confident about it as you guys...Donyell Marshall has beaten us all by himself before...on a bad team, by exploiting our undersized SF issues. He's the damn back up here...and if they decide to stick him at PF alongside LeBRon...we are going to have the mother of all mismatches on our hands...

[fuckespn]

I wish I was as confident about it as you guys...Donyell Marshall has beaten us all by himself before...on a bad team, by exploiting our undersized SF issues. He's the damn back up here...and if they decide to stick him at PF alongside LeBRon...we are going to have the mother of all mismatches on our hands...

Donyell Marshall was pretty good in like 95 on uconn

[ATXSPUR]

I do not fear the cavs as much as the pistons for 3 reasons.

1. This is their first finals. Natural fear.
2. Inability to finish games on the road.
3.The defense is not near as good as the Pistons.

Do NOT let this so far subpar performance by the Pistons this series fool you. They CAN turn it on. They seem to turn it on in the finals as well. Cleveland has played near their best...detroit is not even close to playing their best.

This whole thread is moot anyway. It's not like the cavs are going to beat Detroit.

[whottt]

I do not fear the cavs as much as the pistons for 3 reasons.

1. This is their first finals. Natural fear.
2. Inability to finish games on the road.
3.The defense is not near as good as the Pistons.

Do NOT let this so far subpar performance by the Pistons this series fool you. They CAN turn it on. They seem to turn it on in the finals as well. Cleveland has played near their best...detroit is not even close to playing their best.



Those are all good points.....
But LeBron has absolutely no reason to lack confidence against us...
They've also got a bevy of pretty experienced vets like Donyell Marshall and Eric Snow.


And I am not discounting the Pistons...but the matchups don't scare me as much...and the Pistons have a huge handicap that goes by the name of Flip.

[ShoogarBear]

The Cavs are two wide-open shots from having swept the Pistons.

I still think Detroit will win it, but they better start taking care of bidness.

(And the Spurs still have to finish theirs.)

[fuckespn]

I'm pretty sure if it came down to it the spurs would hit em with the 12 guage bucket, chicken nugget

[whottt]

Donyell Marshall was pretty good in like 95 on uconn

Donyell Marshall completely destroyed us in a game in Toronto like 2 years ago...in fact it wouldn't surprise me if that's why the Cavs signed him. He is a tough matchup with no SF.

[fuckespn]

Donyell Marshall completely destroyed us in a game in Toronto like 2 years ago...in fact it wouldn't surprise me if that's why the Cavs signed him. He is a tough matchup with no SF.

They signed him to play against the spurs? you kiddin me? fuck outta here

[whottt]

fuck, I don't really agree with your POV here(other than the one about ESPN)...

Call it a hunch, but I have a feeling Brown and Ferry put just a little thought into how to give SA some matchup problems when constructing that roster...I do think they have heard of SA, I think we were on their radar just a tad...and I do think they figured they might encounter the Spurs should they make the finals. And I do think they have just a little bit of insight into the Spurs team...and it's weaknesses.

[fuckespn]

fuck, I don't really agree with your POV here(other than the one about ESPN)...

Call it a hunch, but I have a feeling Brown and Ferry put just a little thought into how to give SA some matchup problems when constructing that roster...I do think they have heard of SA, I think we were on their radar just a tad...and I do think they figured they might encounter the Spurs should they make the finals.

All marshall does is shoot threes who gives a fuck if hes tall, who gives a shit if he torched us in a regular season game 2 years ago, every dog has its day, tracy fucking murruy scored 40 once does that mean whoever he scored it against is terrified of the sight of him?

[TampaDude]

Donyell Marshall completely destroyed us in a game in Toronto like 2 years ago...in fact it wouldn't surprise me if that's why the Cavs signed him. He is a tough matchup with no SF.

Who cares??? 2 years ago, the Spurs won the NBA Championship. :toast

[Texas_Ranger]

So what? Did the Cavaliers won the series?

[BeerIsGood!]

Sheed always plays TD tough down low and has a knack for stripping the ball ala Okur this series. Prince gives us matchup problems on D and McDyess also gives us matchup problems coming off the bench. We don't know how effective Webber can be, but probably not too much. We only have one Bowen to guard both Rip and Billups, although Parker has improved he's still undersized to handle Billups.

Either way we have matchup issues with either team. The good news is both teams would have major defensive matchup issues with us as well and the Spurs playing on this level could beat anyone in the NBA. The Mavs didn't lose to the Warriors on matchup issues alone, they lost because they choked and would not adjust to anything the Warriors did. They let the Warriors break their game down and they tried to play scatter ball against them.

Who have either of these teams played to get where they are at? They haven't even come close to the opponents the Spurs have already dispatched, I think the Nuggets, Suns, and Jazz could all win series against either of the two Eastern teams left.

[whottt]

All marshall does is shoot threes who gives a fuck if hes tall, who gives a shit if he torched us in a regular season game 2 years ago, every dog has its day, tracy fucking murruy scored 40 once does that mean whoever he scored it against is terrified of the sight of him?


Mike Brown was an assistant coach with the Spurs that season, he was on the bench that game...he became the coach of the Cavs that offseason and that was one of his first signings...

You think it's a coincidence?


And Marshall can do a hell of a lot more than shoot threes if you have no one that can guard him, he can rebound and post up like a fucking beast on smaller players, he can cut and slash to the basket and finish...

Duncan can't guard him and neither can Bowen...

[whottt]

Who cares??? 2 years ago, the Spurs won the NBA Championship. :toast

And you know what?

If the Pistons had Donyell Marshall that year...they would have beaten us.

[whottt]

So what? Did the Cavaliers won the series?


It's 2-2.

[jaespur21]

i cant see Donyell Marshall avereging 10 a game against us. Bron does and has given bruce troubles bcuz hes just to big for bruce. however we never really double Bron and i think pop has some defensive schemes hes held back on.

[gilmor]

If the Cavs make it to the Finals they will win it. Guaranteed.

Since you guaranteed this, how about making this a bet?

Are you on?

[jaespur21]

Since you guaranteed this, how about making this a bet?

Are you on?

i bet that even if yall bet you have NO WAY of collecting it. well unless both of yall are gtg regulars

[AnkleBreaker21]

The Cavs scare me..

They know our system inside and out from the FO on down...

We have no one that can guard LeBron...he plays like Banzi against us...only with passing.

Bruce is too small...and LeBron takes full advantage of that fact.

Finley is stocky enough to where maybe he can slow him down...but I don't see it happening.

That's the team that's going to get us for not having a SF IMO.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol bring the fuckin cav's

[SilverPlayer]

God Whott, stop fucking panicking. You're seriously being myopic if you think that a regular season game against the cavs is predictive of a game of adjustments and study that the playoffs afford.

Cavs are good, and they pose some serious matchup issues, and it is no small worry that Lebron gets the Wade kid glove treatment.

But the Spurs are damn good. Manu, Tony, and Tim are on a different experience level. They know how to beat anyone.

[whottt]

God Whott, stop fucking panicking you're seriously being myopic if you think that a regular season game against the cavs is predictive of a game of adjustments and study that the playoffs afford.

Cavs are good, and they pose some serious matchup issues, and it is no small worry that Lebron gets the Wade kid glove treatment.

But the Spurs are damn good. Manu, Tony, and Tim are on a different experience level. They know how to beat anyone.



Sin,

Mavs


The Spurs aren't near as unbeatable as you guys think they are....if it wasn't for GS, we'd have our hands full right about now...with some legenday chokers...just because of matchup problems...our matchup problems with the Cavs are worse IMO, and that's if you don't consider that Brown knows a hell of a lot more about these Spurs than AJ does...

We can't guard LeBron, we can't double him...

[AnotherArgie]

I'm the only one here really scared about the Pistons? They have their streaks (like the Spurs), but when they're on, their defense makes me shit my pants. Even worse, they seem to manage their own tempo really well, usually controlling adverse situations.

I know that matchup-wise they might not look dangerous against the Spurs, but I think their D is *excellent* at moments.

[whottt]

And how the fuck am I being myopic? Learn what that means in the Sportsense before you use it.

[Fast Dunk]

Cleveland was 2-0 against San Antonio this season.

:spless:

Yep, they should be worried!

[Mr. Body]

The Cavs are a team that give San Antonio tons of problems in the regular season because there's no time to prepare for them specially, but in the playoffs you can gear an entire system in preparation.

LeBron will be tough, but hell, he's tough for Detroit, too.

Donyell Marshall isn't a big worry to me. He's about played out.

[SPARKY]

Either the Cavs or Pistons would be a tough match in the Finals, but let's see the Spurs make it there first.

[whottt]

The Cavs are a team that give San Antonio tons of problems in the regular season because there's no time to prepare for them specially, but in the playoffs you can gear an entire system in preparation.

LeBron will be tough, but hell, he's tough for Detroit, too.

That's a decent way of looking at it...but unless preparing for them includes a stretch and weight gaining session for Bowen...

I hope you're right.



Donyell Marshall isn't a big worry to me. He's about played out.

He's not played out...he'll be a problem for us if we make the finals.

[ATXSPUR]

Ive never seen such a massive meltdown over a team we havent even played yet.

[whottt]

Who is melting down...I just see a lot of really clueless takes about the level of threat that Cleveland poses...

You guys act like they're a bunch of clowns...they aren't.

They can beat us...the gap between us and them is not as great as you think...the Spurs are not invincible as they are currently built.

[ATXSPUR]

I respect the cavs very much. I do NOT take any team lightly. However I respect Detroit even more.

I know the Spurs are not invinvible. However this team is pretty damn good and will NOT go down in anything less than 7. Not to mention we have not lost two games in a row all playoffs. This team knows how to bounce back...they are on a mission this year.

[L.I.T]

Donyell I'm not so worried about anymore. He's turned into a spot-up three point shooter, an area that the Spurs excel in defending.

Much like the Jazz, I just don't think the Cavs have the scorers to defeat the Spurs in a 7 game series. Lebron will go off a couple of games, but as long as they prevent the supporting cast from stepping up (Gibson, Hughes, Gooden, Ilgauskas et al) I don't foresee too many problems. If the Cavs make it, this match-up reminds me of the old Jordan vs. Celtics series. Lebron can go off for 63 in a game, Spurs will still win.

The only hope for the Cavs is on the defensive side. If they can effectively disrupt the Spurs (and if anyone can it's them), they might extend the series to 7. For the Cavs, their X-factors on defense are going to be Varejao and Gooden. They need to play tight defense on Duncan and dominate the boards. Ilgauskas is a one-space rebounder and will get out-quicked by the Spurs bigs (yes I said that with a straight face). The Cavs do not have the wing defenders to hinder Parker and Ginobili. Hughes is a good defender, but he's made his name as a steals guy, not a one-on-one defender. Snow is washed up. Gibson has a bright future but is a rookie. Lebron may be a genius on the offensive end, but he's pretty damn remedial on the defensive end.

[whottt]

We also haven't exactly faced murderers row in these playoffs..

Say what you want...but this Spurs team has a glaring structural weakness at the SF position, that was exploited last season to knock us out of the post season...it's still there, and no amount of heart, desire or determination is going to fix it...


Anyway, it doesn't matter....I gurantee you that the Spurs brass is worried about the Cavs...and I'd be willing to bet they'd rather face Detroit, who they do have the personnel to match up with....

[Trainwreck2100]

Iglauskus, the fruit with the hair, can't stop Duncan. They have nobody to stop Parker and Manu

Parker and Manu>>>>>>anyone on the Cavs not named Lebron.

[whottt]

I'm the only one here really scared about the Pistons? They have their streaks (like the Spurs), but when they're on, their defense makes me shit my pants. Even worse, they seem to manage their own tempo really well, usually controlling adverse situations.

I know that matchup-wise they might not look dangerous against the Spurs, but I think their D is *excellent* at moments.


The Pistons are tough...it doesn't matter how they play against other teams or how weak we think they are...they're tough...

But I am going to be honest...Flip Saunders + Chris Webber - Larry Brown and Ben Wallace = A team that doesn't scare me as much as the 05 Defending Champion Crew.

[whottt]

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[Mr. Body]

Donyell Marshall has been pretty dismal these playoffs.

[whottt]

Donyell Marshall has been pretty dismal these playoffs.


fuckespn was right about one thing...Donyell Marshall has looked like shit for about 10 years now...but we still don't have anyone that can guard him...he's one of those guys that can do nothing...or he can go off and destroy you. Just sayin'...we don't have anyone that can guard him.

[timvp]

whottt is on point in this thread. If the Spurs get by Utah, they'll face their biggest challenge of the playoffs in the Finals -- whether Detroit or Cleveland wins.

Detroit is scary and every Spurs fan should know why. The Spurs were one Rasheed double team from being eliminated in six games last time the two teams met in the Finals. And even though they've lost Big Ben, they have a deeper bench and a ton of bigmen who can step in and bang with Tim.

I think out of the top six teams in the West, the one team the Cavaliers can conceivably beat is the Spurs. Bowen isn't a good matchup for LeBron and as whotttt noted, they know the Spurs inside and out. And as we saw with AJ last year, that's a huge advantage.

Believe me, Mike Brown and Danny Ferry would know exactly what adjustments would be made before, during and after games ... just like AJ did. And they'd know all the weaknesses the Spurs have.

They have the Spurs' corporate knowledge and will use it to their advantage.

With all that said, Spurs need to take care of business tomorrow. :smokin

[timvp]

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[Dex]

You people stress too much.

[whottt]

whottt is on point in this thread. If the Spurs get by Utah, they'll face their biggest challenge of the playoffs in the Finals -- whether Detroit or Cleveland wins.

Detroit is scary and every Spurs fan should know why. The Spurs were one Rasheed double team from being eliminated in six games last time the two teams met in the Finals. And even though they've lost Big Ben, they have a deeper bench and a ton of bigmen who can step in and bang with Tim.

I think out of the top six teams in the West, the one team the Cavaliers can conceivably beat is the Spurs. Bowen isn't a good matchup for LeBron and as whotttt noted, they know the Spurs inside and out. And as we saw with AJ last year, that's a huge advantage.

Believe me, Mike Brown and Danny Ferry would know exactly what adjustments would be made before, during and after games ... just like AJ did. And they'd know all the weaknesses the Spurs have.

They have the Spurs' corporate knowledge and will use it to their advantage.

With all that said, Spurs need to take care of business tomorrow. :smokin


What I want to ask you...

How good is Mike Brown?

Was there a reason Ferry went after him instead of the other assistants?

[whottt]

timvp was a user currently replying to thread :smokin


LMAO thanks...I was curious to see your opinion on this.

[timvp]

What I want to ask you...

How good is Mike Brown?

Was there a reason Ferry went after him instead of the other assistants?
I wasn't overly impressed with him in the games at Detroit. Especially after he got that T late in Game 2.

But in Games 3 and 4, I've started to think he might be one of the better coaches in the league. He basically has LeBron and 11 guys who sometimes show up and sometimes don't. He's very good at mixing and matching until he find a lineup that works.

He's kinda like Pop in that he doesn't have a set rotation. He goes with who is playing well. No matter if it's a starter or the 12th man on the bench.

He also has the Cavs playing damn good defense. They are undefeated in the playoffs when they score 86+ points. That's the sign of a well coached team.

[Solid D]

The Spurs still have Utah to contend with. This is a different team, of course, but I just get cautious having lived through a 3-1 advantage in the conference finals and then losing in 7 games to the Bullets.

But if I'm going to play along with tlong's thread here, nobody is mentioning Hank Egan.

[ATXSPUR]

I wasn't overly impressed with him in the games at Detroit. Especially after he got that T late in Game 2.

But in Games 3 and 4, I've started to think he might be one of the better coaches in the league. He basically has LeBron and 11 guys who sometimes show up and sometimes don't. He's very good at mixing and matching until he find a lineup that works.

He's kinda like Pop in that he doesn't have a set rotation. He goes with who is playing well. No matter if it's a starter or the 12th man on the bench.

He also has the Cavs playing damn good defense. They are undefeated in the playoffs when they score 86+ points. That's the sign of a well coached team.


As far as the 86+ point stat. They play in the east. It is not known for its explosive offense these days.

The way this thread is sounding we are about to take a time machine back to face MJ and the Bulls.

[LavaLamp]

The Cavs scare me..They know our system inside and out from the FO on down...


How do the Cavs know so much about the Spurs FO on down? Please explain...

Ummmm...never mind... I just had to keep reading the thread. LOL

[BeerIsGood!]

The Spurs dispatch either team in no more than 6 games. Would be five except for the idiotic 2-3-2 finals schedule. Neither team has near the offensive firepower of the Suns and only the Pistons play much better defense. The Cavs have been turning to James jacking up fade away threes and clanking at the end of games, and the Pistons haven't even been good enough to take advantage because they're taking stupid shit shots as well. I swear the Pistons are playing like they've never been in a conference finals before. It appears taking away Larry and Ben from the '05 team and adding the soft ass Webber and goofy Flip really did a number on those guy's ability to close people out. If either team plays like they have in the PO so far against the Spurs they get bounced in 5 if the Spurs play at the same level they've been at.

[whottt]

How do the Cavs know so much about the Spurs FO on down? Please explain.


Ex SPur Danny Ferry is their GM(He was on the 03 Championship Team and an exec with the Spurs the year after that) and the guy who hired Mike Brown...who was an assistant coach on the 03 and 05 teams.



When the Cavs started building their team...they stole from the best. And as evidenced by the fact thay they have that team on the verge of the finals after 2 years...they aren't fools.

[BeerIsGood!]

Damn, I know matchups make a series, but does anyone here actually think these two teams are even playing at the level the Suns were? Even the Nuggets or Jazz? I don't think it's close. No team is invincible or unbeatable, but in a 7 game series in which the Spurs have HCA - either one would have to raise their level of play tenfold to win that series.

[Trainwreck2100]

Ex SPur Danny Ferry is their GM(He was on the 03 Championship Team and an exec with the Spurs the year after that) and the guy who hired Mike Brown...who was an assistant coach on the 03 and 05 teams.



When the Cavs started building their team...they stole from the best. And as evidenced by the fact thay they have that team on the verge of the finals after 2 years...they aren't fools.

I'm pretty sure Brown wasn't a part of the 05 team, he was in Indy before he was in Cle

[BeerIsGood!]

Ex SPur Danny Ferry is their GM(He was on the 03 Championship Team and an exec with the Spurs the year after that) and the guy who hired Mike Brown...who was an assistant coach on the 03 and 05 teams.



When the Cavs started building their team...they stole from the best. And as evidenced by the fact thay they have that team on the verge of the finals after 2 years...they aren't fools.

You put the Cavs in the western conference and they don't get out of the 1st round. They likely get bounced by the Jazz or Nuggets. The eastern conference is so bad that the Cavs are actually in the finals of that conference. That says a lot about the conference, not the team.

[whottt]

I'm pretty sure Brown wasn't a part of the 05 team, he was in Indy before he was in Cle

Now that you mention it...I think you're right, he was with the Pacers...damn for some reason I thought he got pulled straight from the Spurs by Ferry.

Ok...so Ferry isn't as big of a traitor as I thought...

[whottt]

You put the Cavs in the western conference and they don't get out of the 1st round. They likely get bounced by the Jazz or Nuggets. The eastern conference is so bad that the Cavs are actually in the finals of that conference. That says a lot about the conference, not the team.


I think the Cavs are a better team than the Rockets, Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers and Warriors...and I think they match up with us better than Phoenix.


I'd say they are, at worst, the 4th or 5th best team in the playoffs...

Spurs
Mavs
Pistons
Suns
Cavs...

[BeerIsGood!]

I think the Cavs are a better team than the Rockets, Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers and Warriors...and I think they match up with us better than Phoenix.


I'd say they are, at worst, the 4th or 5th best team in the playoffs...

Spurs
Mavs
Pistons
Suns
Cavs...

I disagree. I think the Jazz and Nuggets could definitely beat them in a series and that the Mavs, Suns, and Spurs would deal with them in less than 7 with no issue. I've watched the team play many times over the season and here in the playoffs, but I'm not impressed with their ability to get it done against a quality opponent when it counts. I think this game tonight speaks more to how much the Pistons have fallen off than to where the Cavs are. We'll see over the next two - I fully expect the Pistons to protect HC and find a way to take a game 6 when the Cavs once again rely on James jacking up fade away threes in crunch time.

[whottt]

I think you guys are seriously underestimating that advantage a guy going to a new team has against his old organization...


Sin,

Us last year, the Mavs this year


Hopefully Pop will send Nelly a ring....and the Cavs are a hell of a lot better team than the Warriors.

[boutons_]

Like the Jazz and Warriors, the Cavs are a very weak road team, under .500, 20-21 on the season, a very good indication of the team's fundamental weakness.

The two EC teams with the best season road records are now playing in the ECF (but neither has been able to win on the ECF road).

Spurs had "no answer" for Amare, he got 37 PPG in 05 vs Spurs, but the Spurs took down the Suns 4-1.

The "playoff Spurs" having no answer for LBJ, who's geting only 20 PPG vs Pistons and 25 PPG all playoffs, isn't a huge concern.

[BeerIsGood!]

I think you guys are seriously underestimating that advantage a guy going to a new team has against his old organization...


Sin,

Us last year, the Mavs this year


Hopefully Pop will send Nelly a ring....and the Cavs are a hell of a lot better team than the Warriors.

The Mavs last year were a hell of a lot better than the Cavs this year. The matchup was worse for the Spurs and the opponent was far better. The Cavs don't have the shooters or offensive firepower of that Mav team, and it took 2 horrendously called 4th quarters to swing the balance to the Mavs. I'm not saying that it's a given against either team, but both the Cavs and Pistons would have to bring a hell of a lot more and get guys who have sucked royally all PO long to all of a sudden step up. Either that or the Spurs completely go to shit, but 3 Finals appearances say otherwise there.

[BeerIsGood!]

I'm as die-hard of a Longhorns fan as there are, and I'm telling you that if you're picking a team counting on DANIEL GIBSON to come up big to win in a series against the Spurs, you're crazy. Dude will go back to bricking and blowing within another game or two.

[timvp]

I'd say they are, at worst, the 4th or 5th best team in the playoffs...

Spurs
Mavs
Pistons
Suns
Cavs...

Eh, I don't think the Cavs are that good overall. I think they matchup with the Spurs well. But I think the Jazz, Suns and maybe even the Nuggets could beat them.

But the playoffs is all about matchups. While the Spurs would have destroyed the Warriors, the Mavs would have been a damn tough test for the Spurs. And as we saw, the Warriors beat the Mavs so it's hard to do a straight line power ranking.

I'd say the Cavs are a top five bad matchup for the Spurs, but overall they are probably closer to the tenth best team in the league. The overall ranking doesn't matter much as the Heat won it all last year and teams, such as the Spurs, could have beaten them. But that means nothing.

[milkyway21]

Cleveland was 2-0 against San Antonio this season.

:spless:

SPURS: 3-0 IN THE NBA FINALS :p:

Lebron if he can make it better light some candles...& PRAY

[timvp]

Disclaimer: Spurs still need another win before the Finals matchups even matter. I've seen bigger choke jobs from the Spurs than what it'd take to drop three straight to this Jazz team.

The Jazz are damn good and the Spurs have still yet to beat a Jerry Sloan coached team in the playoffs.

[dg7md]

Cavs aren't good, they're in a terrible conference with a slumping Detroit team led up a coach known for choking. Cavs are at best within the top 8 of best teams.

Spurs
Mavs
Suns
Pistons
healthy Miami Heat

are the top 5 in my opinion. Nuggets are better than the Cavs, so are the Jazz. Don't freak out, playoffs, not regular season.

LeBron is a huge star, great talent. Z is good. Hughes is alright (and he's out for a while due to injury), who else they got worth noting? Nobody who can change a games landscape over 7 games. Heat had MORE than Wade last year when they beat Dallas... they had enforcers with a chip on his shoulder and a two headed monster of Zo and Shaq. So nobody claim LeBron's "superstar treatment" will mean a Spur loss.

Gibson is just on a streak right now, no way he keeps up this play, especially against the Spurs defense.

Pistons are slumping, Cavs aren't winning.

[timvp]

If Deron Williams is playing like LeBron James against the Spurs, how would LeBron James play against the Spurs?







Disclaimer: Spurs still need another win before the Finals matchups even matter. I've seen bigger choke jobs from the Spurs than what it'd take to drop three straight to this Jazz team.

The Jazz are damn good and the Spurs have still yet to beat a Jerry Sloan coached team in the playoffs.

[BeerIsGood!]

If Deron Williams is playing like LeBron James against the Spurs, how would LeBron James play against the Spurs?







Disclaimer: Spurs still need another win before the Finals matchups even matter. I've seen bigger choke jobs from the Spurs than what it'd take to drop three straight to this Jazz team.

The Jazz are damn good and the Spurs have still yet to beat a Jerry Sloan coached team in the playoffs.

You disclaimer is great, but luckily fans can look ahead without influencing anything. If the players did it that would be a different story.

Lebron would play like Lebron, and the rest of the team would play like the rest of the team. Hell, even Kirilenko, Okur, and Fish torched the Warriors and to an extent the Rockets. The Cavs role players are choke city and wouldn't be much of a factor unless the Spurs play out of character.

On the flip side, who do the Cavs have to stop TD, Manu, Parker, or the likes of Finley and Oberto who thrive off of doubles and overplays? It's one thing to know the Spurs system inside and out, it's another to have the personnel to stop it. You think Sloan, Karl, and even D'Antoni don't know enough about basketball to figure out what the Spurs are doing? Every coach in the league knows the Spurs system but few have the personnel to top it.

[Strike]

Hughes is alright (and he's out for a while due to injury)

Should the Cavs make the finals, there's Cav fan's excuse if the Spurs beat them for the Championship.

[KidCongo]

You put the Cavs in the western conference and they don't get out of the 1st round. They likely get bounced by the Jazz or Nuggets. The eastern conference is so bad that the Cavs are actually in the finals of that conference. That says a lot about the conference, not the team.

To be bounced by nuggets or jazz we must have made it in top 4 seeds?

[KidCongo]

I disagree. I think the Jazz and Nuggets could definitely beat them in a series and that the Mavs, Suns, and Spurs would deal with them in less than 7 with no issue. I've watched the team play many times over the season and here in the playoffs, but I'm not impressed with their ability to get it done against a quality opponent when it counts. I think this game tonight speaks more to how much the Pistons have fallen off than to where the Cavs are. We'll see over the next two - I fully expect the Pistons to protect HC and find a way to take a game 6 when the Cavs once again rely on James jacking up fade away threes in crunch time.

Suns give us the most trouble by far, just can't keep up with their style. We match up well with Spurs and go decent with Mavs. We dont rely on LBJ jacking up fadeaway 3's in crunch.

[BeerIsGood!]

Suns give us the most trouble by far, just can't keep up with their style. We match up well with Spurs and go decent with Mavs. We dont rely on LBJ jacking up fadeaway 3's in crunch.

That's what I've seen in key possessions in the 4th so far - fade away jump shots. Not only 3s although I've seen a few of those.

[SouthernFried]

Cleveland knows our system? Doesn't that mean...that POP prolly knows Clevelands system as well, since he taught those guys?

Do they have an answer for DUNCAN? Does anyone?

Do they have an answer for Manu? Does anyone?

With the above 2 a given...I'll take my chances on a "playoff mentality" Bowen guarding LeBron, right to the championship ring.

[Cry Havoc]

I have the perfect solution to stop LeBron.

Double him. Put one guy in front of him, and one guy (Manu) behind him. When he goes to shoot the patented fadeaway, have Manu stand straight and take a charge. :lol

[GrandeDavid]

I think Whottt's argument is very compelling and convincing. I also agree that the Cavs would be problematic for the Spurs and certainly would be leery of Mike Brown's "corporate knowledge" of the Spurs. I would hope that intangibles like a richer playoff experience, championship experience, and veteran experience, would help the Spurs. However, on the court matchups would be tough. I would probably subscribe to Mikey's theory of let Lebron get his but shut down the others.

But what I'd rather do is flip the coin and look at what San Antonio can do to Cleveland on the offensive end. Cleveland would still have to deal with a Hall of Famer still in his prime in Tim Duncan, and Parker's improved judgement and jumper would nicely compliment Ginobili's attacks to the basket. I think that Cleveland would have just as hard of a time dealing with the Spurs' Big Three as the Spurs would in dealing with Lebron plus any two players you name to support him.

I'm just saying that it would be a tough series, but I believe the Spurs would come out on top due to the San Antonio Big Three on the offensive end. I think they'd be able to provide just enough to crack that Cleveland defense over the course of a seven game series.

[Sec24Row7]

SPURS: 3-0 IN THE NBA FINALS :p:

Lebron if he can make it better light some candles...& PRAY


Yeah that Unbeaten streak only lasts until you lose one...

[101A]

I like the Spur's chances against a young playoff team in close games. Sphincters get awfully tight; palms get sweaty - Spurs have been there before.

[ATRAIN]

Im scared of the CAVS.......LABRON is clutch!!!! PFFFFTTTTTTTTTTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lmao

[ATRAIN]

Why are we even talking about this anyway, They just tied thier series and we aren't done with ours. We will cross that road if and when we do.

[DarrinS]

I think the real question is, why does Gooden have a hairy vagina on the back of his neck? That is one weird lookin dude.


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/scostc/hairthing.jpg

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Something for TlongII to think about: the early offseason.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I think the real question is, why does Gooden have a hairy vagina on the back of his neck? That is one weird lookin dude.


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/scostc/hairthing.jpg
:lmao

[ATRAIN]

I think the real question is, why does Gooden have a hairy vagina on the back of his neck? That is one weird lookin dude.


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/scostc/hairthing.jpg



Yeah what the hell is that?

[tlongII]

Since you guaranteed this, how about making this a bet?

Are you on?


What do you want to bet?

[GrandeDavid]

What do you want to bet?

A virtual hug.

[Hoop]

SPURS-CAVS JOKE :lol :lol :lol :lol

spurs in 4! :sleep

[picnroll]

What do you want to bet?
First round picks in the draft.

[tlongII]

*bump*

[Agloco]

If the Cavs make it to the Finals they will win it. Guaranteed.

I think this qualifies as the dumbest comment in history.........

[jag]

*bump*

lol good form...i'm starting to think that bowen better play the series of his life if we play the cavs...i'm ready for this :hungry:

[gilmor]

What do you want to bet?

2000 US dollars, ok?

[tlongII]

2000 US dollars, ok?
:lmao

[gilmor]

agreed?

[whottt]

What do you want to bet?



First round picks in the draft.


That was pretty good ;)

[tlongII]

agreed?

Why don't you send me 2,000 USD and if the Spurs win I'll send you 4,000 USD back? Agreed?

[bigfan]

STFU amd go away, you green s__t fly.

[101A]

I cannot believe the LeBron dynasty is beginning right now. He's what, 22? - with probably 10 - 12 years left. Is he going to eclipse MJ? I don't think so; not based on a single game. The Cavs will not win the championship this year. Their success thus far is the product of a criminally weak Eastern Conference (as Utah was the product of a criminal choke job by the Mavs). If McDyess doesn't get ejected, IMO, this isn't the same discussion anyway.

LeBron is an animal, and is gonna get his rings, but not THIS year, with THIS team. Tim Duncan is too good, the Spurs are playing too well to lose to that group, and that coach. Will there be matchup problems? Sure - but there seemingly always are, and other than Shaq/Kobe or Nowitski PLUS alot of other talent, has always overcome those.

Spurs in (at most) 6.

BTW: On the RealGM NBA discussion forum 58% of the posters DO think the Cavs could beat the Spurs. Of course the thread is Cavs vs. Spurs SANS DUNCAN. Even at that 42% of the impartial posters think the Spurs would take it.

[703 Spurz]

Spurs last 3 games against the Cavs...all Spurs losses...


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SAN ANTONIO SPURS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Bruce Bowen, SF 31 3-6 1-2 1-1 0 3 3 1 0 0 0 0 8
Tim Duncan, FC 37 7-14 0-0 5-7 3 7 10 5 1 1 1 1 19
Rasho Nesterovic, C 21 3-5 0-0 0-0 1 3 4 2 0 1 2 3 6
Tony Parker, PG 32 2-7 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 4 1 0 7 3 4
Manu Ginobili, SG 28 5-11 0-2 2-3 0 7 7 3 0 0 3 5 12
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Nazr Mohammed, C 17 3-4 0-0 2-4 2 2 4 0 0 1 3 3 8
Michael Finley, GF 18 2-4 2-4 1-2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 7
Sean Marks, FC 9 0-2 0-0 0-0 0 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0
Nick Van Exel, PG 19 2-5 1-1 0-0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 5
Fabricio Oberto, C 6 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0
Brent Barry, G 13 2-3 0-1 2-4 0 2 2 0 1 1 0 1 6
Beno Udrih, PG 9 4-4 3-3 1-3 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 12
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
33-65 7-13 14-24 6 29 35 19 3 5 18 17 87
50.8% 53.8% 58.3% Team TO (pts off): 18 (20)

CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
LeBron James, SF 41 19-33 1-3 5-8 2 1 3 5 4 0 2 0 44
Drew Gooden, PF 30 4-10 0-0 2-4 7 3 10 0 2 1 0 3 10
Zydrunas Ilgauskas, C 29 8-19 0-0 1-1 6 5 11 1 0 1 0 4 17
Eric Snow, PG 36 3-7 0-0 0-0 1 2 3 6 0 1 2 3 6
Sasha Pavlovic, GF 18 2-5 0-1 0-0 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 4 4
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Damon Jones, PG 25 2-3 1-2 0-0 0 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 5
Donyell Marshall, F 18 1-5 1-4 0-0 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 3
Stephen Graham, G 26 4-7 0-0 0-0 1 4 5 0 0 0 0 5 8
Anderson Varejao, FC 12 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 3 3 0 1 0 0 3 0
Mike Wilks, PG 2 2-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
Martynas Andriuskevicius, C 2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Alan Henderson, PF DNP COACH'S DECISION
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
45-92 3-10 8-13 18 23 41 16 7 3 5 22 101
48.9% 30.0% 61.5% Team TO (pts off): 6 (4)




NBA Scoreboard - November 3, 2006
NOKIND10091 Final PHIORL105103 Final MILTOR92109 Final NYATL92102 Final DETBOS10188 Final NJMIA8591 Final CLESA8881 Final CHAMEM8396 Final SACCHI8988 Final MINDEN112109 Final UTAPHO108104 Final PORGS89102 Final SEALAL112118 Final
Cleveland (2-0)San Antonio (1-1)88 81 1 2 3 4 T
Cleveland 23 20 19 26 88
San Antonio 18 18 20 25 81
Final
RecapShot ChartPlay-by-PlayBox Score


CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
LeBron James, SF 42 14-26 1-2 6-11 1 9 10 4 1 1 2 3 35
Drew Gooden, PF 29 3-6 0-0 3-3 2 7 9 1 2 1 1 3 9
Zydrunas Ilgauskas, C 28 4-9 0-0 2-5 2 9 11 1 0 1 1 6 10
Larry Hughes, SG 39 6-15 1-4 5-6 0 4 4 2 2 0 4 5 18
Eric Snow, PG 25 0-3 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 6 0 0 1 3 0
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Damon Jones, PG 24 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 2
Donyell Marshall, F 18 3-6 2-3 0-2 0 3 3 0 1 1 0 2 8
Anderson Varejao, FC 19 1-2 0-0 1-2 1 4 5 2 0 1 2 3 3
David Wesley, SG 14 1-3 0-0 1-1 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 2 3
Scot Pollard, C 2 0-2 0-0 0-0 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 0
Sasha Pavlovic, GF 1 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Shannon Brown, G DNP COACH'S DECISION
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
33-74 4-9 18-30 8 41 49 16 6 5 11 29 88
44.6% 44.4% 60.0% Team TO (pts off): 12 (7)

SAN ANTONIO SPURS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Bruce Bowen, SF 38 1-5 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 3 1 0 0 2 2
Tim Duncan, FC 39 8-14 0-0 9-19 1 11 12 5 0 1 5 3 25
Fabricio Oberto, C 19 2-2 0-0 0-0 2 4 6 0 0 0 0 4 4
Manu Ginobili, SG 31 5-11 3-7 1-3 0 4 4 1 0 1 3 3 14
Tony Parker, PG 35 8-16 0-0 5-8 0 5 5 5 0 0 3 0 21
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Michael Finley, GF 19 1-7 1-3 1-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 4
Francisco Elson, C 15 2-3 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 4 4
Beno Udrih, PG 13 2-7 1-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 5
Robert Horry, PF 20 0-4 0-3 0-0 2 6 8 0 0 0 1 5 0
Brent Barry, G 12 0-0 0-0 2-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 2 2
Jacque Vaughn, PG DNP COACH'S DECISION
Matt Bonner, FC DNP COACH'S DECISION
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
29-69 5-15 18-34 5 35 40 16 2 2 12 24 81
42.0% 33.3% 52.9% Team TO (pts off): 13 (17)






NBA Scoreboard - January 2, 2007
SACLE7882 Final LACORL8691 Final GSNOK9789 Final PHOCHI9796 Final SEADAL88112 Final PHIDEN10897 Final NYSAC100112 Final
San Antonio (23-9)Cleveland (18-12)78 82 1 2 3 4 T
San Antonio 21 19 10 28 78
Cleveland 21 12 11 38 82
Final
RecapShot ChartPlay-by-PlayBox Score


SAN ANTONIO SPURS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Bruce Bowen, SF 33 0-6 0-2 0-0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 4 0
Robert Horry, PF 24 2-5 1-2 0-0 2 5 7 1 1 0 0 2 5
Tim Duncan, FC 37 6-15 0-0 6-8 2 13 15 2 0 2 4 2 18
Manu Ginobili, SG 29 1-8 0-5 4-5 0 6 6 3 0 1 3 3 6
Tony Parker, PG 36 11-18 0-1 4-4 1 2 3 3 2 1 6 2 26
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Matt Bonner, FC 24 2-4 2-3 2-2 1 2 3 0 1 0 0 4 8
Brent Barry, G 24 1-4 1-3 1-1 0 3 3 3 1 0 2 4 4
Beno Udrih, PG 14 1-3 0-1 0-0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 2 2
Fabricio Oberto, C 11 2-7 0-0 0-0 2 3 5 0 0 0 0 1 4
Michael Finley, GF 8 2-3 1-2 0-0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 2 5
Eric Williams, GF DNP COACH'S DECISION
Jacque Vaughn, PG DNP COACH'S DECISION
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
28-73 5-19 17-20 9 36 45 14 8 4 17 26 78
38.4% 26.3% 85.0% Team TO (pts off): 18 (19)

CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
LeBron James, SF 40 7-17 0-1 5-11 0 5 5 5 2 0 3 1 19
Drew Gooden, PF 23 4-8 0-0 2-2 1 3 4 0 1 0 1 2 10
Zydrunas Ilgauskas, C 29 4-13 0-0 0-0 5 8 13 0 0 3 2 3 8
Larry Hughes, SG 36 6-12 4-6 2-4 1 4 5 5 3 0 4 3 18
Eric Snow, PG 33 0-3 0-0 1-2 0 4 4 3 4 0 1 0 1
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Anderson Varejao, FC 26 2-5 0-0 4-4 4 3 7 1 2 0 0 5 8
Damon Jones, PG 21 2-5 1-3 6-9 0 1 1 2 0 0 1 0 11
Daniel Gibson, G 5 1-1 1-1 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 3
Donyell Marshall, F 17 1-8 1-6 0-0 0 5 5 0 0 3 2 3 3
Sasha Pavlovic, GF 8 0-3 0-1 1-2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
27-75 7-18 21-34 11 33 44 16 12 8 14 17 82
36.0% 38.9% 61.8% Team TO (pts off): 14 (14)




76 shot attempts in 3 games, ANYONE will score decent points with those numbers

[703 Spurz]

whottt is on point in this thread. If the Spurs get by Utah, they'll face their biggest challenge of the playoffs in the Finals -- whether Detroit or Cleveland wins.

Detroit is scary and every Spurs fan should know why. The Spurs were one Rasheed double team from being eliminated in six games last time the two teams met in the Finals. And even though they've lost Big Ben, they have a deeper bench and a ton of bigmen who can step in and bang with Tim.

I think out of the top six teams in the West, the one team the Cavaliers can conceivably beat is the Spurs. Bowen isn't a good matchup for LeBron and as whotttt noted, they know the Spurs inside and out. And as we saw with AJ last year, that's a huge advantage.

Believe me, Mike Brown and Danny Ferry would know exactly what adjustments would be made before, during and after games ... just like AJ did. And they'd know all the weaknesses the Spurs have.

They have the Spurs' corporate knowledge and will use it to their advantage.

With all that said, Spurs need to take care of business tomorrow. :smokin

So then if the Cavs are made up of former Spur people, what offense/defense do they run? How do we not know what they'll do?

[fuckespn]

if the cavs beat the pistons it will be a sweep similar to the houston-orlando finals

[cherylsteele]

Why don't you send me 2,000 USD and if the Spurs win I'll send you 4,000 USD back? Agreed?
You gonna rob a bank or something? You seem to have plenty of time on your hands so you must be unemployed.

[gilmor]

Why don't you send me 2,000 USD and if the Spurs win I'll send you 4,000 USD back? Agreed?

Let's put it this way.. if the spurs win and cavs lost.. then you won't post for a year.. if otherwise, I won't post for a year..

Sounds good?

[tlongII]

Let's put it this way.. if the spurs win and cavs lost.. then you won't post for a year.. if otherwise, I won't post for a year..

Sounds good?


Dude, your post count is 184. You hardly post here as it is.