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steppy
05-30-2007, 12:26 PM
Since Kobe wants a trade, where would he fit in best and who could get him? I'm assuming the Lakers would look to the East but I don't know if they would get equal value for him.

I thought about Orlando but I'm not sure they have what it would take to get him. Putting him next to another (future) dominant big man might be the best for Kobe.

Where do you think he could end up?

lebomb
05-30-2007, 12:28 PM
New York Knicks or back home to Philly

stretch
05-30-2007, 12:29 PM
Most likely, the two teams with the most to offer would be Dallas or Chicago. But Chicago would have to probably part with both Gordon and Deng, and I don't know if they would give that much up for Kobe.

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 12:30 PM
Cuban loves Dirk to much to part with him. Harris, Howard, Buckner fo Kobe would probably get it done.

Fillmoe
05-30-2007, 12:33 PM
Cuban loves Dirk to much to part with him. Harris, Howard, Buckner fo Kobe would probably get it done.


no it wouldnt

dknights411
05-30-2007, 12:34 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up with the Clippers, but Golden State, New York, and Philly (and maybe even Atlanta, or Charlotte) are the places I think he might end up.

TheNextGen
05-30-2007, 12:34 PM
Kobe for Portland's 1st round pick and Roy

Kobe for Gordan, Deng and Nocioni


Lakers need to trade Kobe for a superstar. Lakers also need to trade odom and Kwame and whoever else for another superstar. Try to have 2!

Fillmoe
05-30-2007, 12:34 PM
he will stay in LA.... book it

BUMP
05-30-2007, 12:34 PM
i think he will land in Chicago. if they land him in Dallas, it better not be for Dirk. if they trade Dirk for him, we'll never beat San Antonio, thus probably never get out of the west, cause no other team can grow any balls and beat the Spurs :rolleyes

sa_butta
05-30-2007, 12:40 PM
Hell.

BUMP
05-30-2007, 12:44 PM
Hell.
naw i dont think the Hawks have a deal in place

clambake
05-30-2007, 12:47 PM
He's got a no-trade clause. He would first have to approve it. Where would he be willing to play?

JamStone
05-30-2007, 12:47 PM
New York has the contracts and a few young talented guys to actually make a trade possible without mortgaging the entire team.

Steve Francis
Jamal Crawford
Channing Frye
Nate Robinson
2007 first round draft pick
future future round draft pick

for

Kobe Bryant
Vladimir Radmanovic

ducks
05-30-2007, 12:48 PM
He's got a no-trade clause. He would first have to approve it. Where would he be willing to play?
kobe has the lakers by the balls

Mr.Bottomtooth
05-30-2007, 12:49 PM
New York has the contracts and a few young talented guys to actually make a trade possible without mortgaging the entire team.

Steve Francis
Jamal Crawford
Channing Frye
Nate Robinson
2007 first round draft pick
future future round draft pick

for

Kobe Bryant
Vladimir Radmanovic
I think the first round pick for this year will be kept. But minus that and it seems like a great deal.

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 12:50 PM
Kobe for Portland's 1st round pick and Roy

Kobe for Gordan, Deng and Nocioni


Lakers need to trade Kobe for a superstar. Lakers also need to trade odom and Kwame and whoever else for another superstar. Try to have 2!

Gordan. :lol

dickface
05-30-2007, 12:52 PM
Kobe for Portland's 1st round pick and Roy

Kobe for Gordan, Deng and Nocioni


Lakers need to trade Kobe for a superstar. Lakers also need to trade odom and Kwame and whoever else for another superstar. Try to have 2!

Portland and Chicago both would be completely idiotic to make those trades.

td4mvp21
05-30-2007, 12:53 PM
Hopefully the East. Not because I'm scared of Kobe being in the West, but because the East is very much lacking right now compared to the West, and with Durant and Oden almost definitely going to the West, that would put the East in a much bigger hole. He could go:

Knicks (Isaiah Thomas seems to go for everyone)
Pacers (Maybe O'Neal and someone else for Bryant; O'Neal wants a trade as well)
Magic (Leave Howard out somehow? That would be a good duo in Bryant and Howard)

Those I think would be the top 3. He's not going to the Bulls; the Bulls need a low post scorer and they are set. They have an excellent backcourt as it is. Philly/Charlotte would have no one around Kobe after a trade; Kobe wants to win so why would he go somewhere where he can't?

Testing
05-30-2007, 12:53 PM
Lakers would want a big name player in return to sell their overpriced tickets, no one else but Kobe....except maybe a Lebron, Wade, or Melo can do that for the franchise. And since those players won't be traded, I doubt Kobe will either...

monosylab1k
05-30-2007, 12:57 PM
he will stay in LA.... book it

yep. he's saying all this now cuz he's pissed....once he cools off he's going to back off on all of this.

sa_butta
05-30-2007, 12:57 PM
naw i dont think the Hawks have a deal in placeI think he would rather go to hell.

sa_butta
05-30-2007, 12:58 PM
Sixers and Knicks could use him. Just get him out of the west.

freedom&justice
05-30-2007, 01:08 PM
kobe has the lakers by the balls

:tu

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:09 PM
Kobe dictates where he goes.

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:11 PM
Maybe to Boston for Pierce and others?

"The Celtics had better hope Jianlian or whoever they pick pans out, because multiple sources confirmed on Tuesday that Paul Pierce wants to win sooner rather than later. One source said, "Paul is not a big fan of a youth movement at all. He wants to win right now." The source also questioned Pierce's ability to lead the Celtics coming down the stretch of games. "You know, he is to blame for some of Boston's problems. He turns the ball over a lot and hasn't proved he can deliver at the end of games. He is just as much to blame for their problems as anyone else." Both sources indicated the Celtics will almost certainly explore the possibility of moving Pierce this summer, especially since he has no intention of being part of a youth movement in Boston."

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22136.shtml

judaspriestess
05-30-2007, 01:14 PM
jail?? :p:

freedom&justice
05-30-2007, 01:14 PM
He'll want to go to a contender. Lakers won't get equal value anywhere. they're stuck.

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:14 PM
Kobe for Amare, Barbosa. I could see it.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_21900.shtml

ATRAIN
05-30-2007, 01:15 PM
Cuban loves Dirk to much to part with him. Harris, Howard, Buckner fo Kobe would probably get it done.


Whats wrong with you

Infamous
05-30-2007, 01:16 PM
Trade him straight up for Dwyane Wade. Haha

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:16 PM
The Lakers will want a PG out of this deal no matter what. Thats why Dallas is a strong option at this point. I dont think the mavs are committed to either jet or harris and wouldnt hesitate to move either if they like the deal.

JamStone
05-30-2007, 01:17 PM
one caveat with any possible trade with dallas. i'm not a capologist, but i'm pretty sure that if the mavs traded josh howard, the salary won't be counted as $9 million because he was on his rookie base last year. would have to get verification from someone who really knows, but i'm pretty sure howard, buckner, and harris would not be enough to match salaries.

Infamous
05-30-2007, 01:17 PM
They need to do a 2 for 1 and get a guard and a good young big man. Kobe for T.J Ford and Chris Bosh.

ATRAIN
05-30-2007, 01:17 PM
i think he will land in Chicago. if they land him in Dallas, it better not be for Dirk. if they trade Dirk for him, we'll never beat San Antonio, thus probably never get out of the west, cause no other team can grow any balls and beat the Spurs :rolleyes


I dont think you will ever beat San Antonio again anyways ;)

JamStone
05-30-2007, 01:18 PM
Kobe for Amare, Barbosa. I could see it.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_21900.shtml


more likely marion and barbosa

monosylab1k
05-30-2007, 01:19 PM
Harris, Howard, Terry for Kobe? Is this Mav homer talk, or does it seem fairly reasonable?

freedom&justice
05-30-2007, 01:19 PM
more likely marion and barbosa

Kobe and Raja on the same team?

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:19 PM
one caveat with any possible trade with dallas. i'm not a capologist, but i'm pretty sure that if the mavs traded josh howard, the salary won't be counted as $9 million because he was on his rookie base last year. would have to get verification from someone who really knows, but i'm pretty sure howard, buckner, and harris would not be enough to match salaries.

http://realgm.com/src_tradechecker/1/

ATRAIN
05-30-2007, 01:19 PM
They need to do a 2 for 1 and get a guard and a good young big man. Kobe for T.J Ford and Chris Bosh.


Thats actually the best scenario that I have seen. If they threw in one more than I might see that happening. Both are young, maybe thier draft pick too.

ATRAIN
05-30-2007, 01:20 PM
more likely marion and barbosa


No it would have to be Amare, even though to match salaries it would prob have to be Marion.

ATRAIN
05-30-2007, 01:21 PM
What about the Magic, I could see them giving up Howard and others.

freedom&justice
05-30-2007, 01:21 PM
Harris, Howard, Terry for Kobe? Is this Mav homer talk, or does it seem fairly reasonable?

Kobe's making max money, but if the mavs throw some cash and some picks in, it might work. This all hinges on who Cubes would be willing to part with. I'm thinking Dirk, Stack, and maybe Howard are untouchable.

Findog
05-30-2007, 01:22 PM
Kobe's not going anywhere until 2009 when he can opt out. If the Lakers move him at all, it will be the summer before he can opt out, not now.

Jerry Buss is just as much about putting on a show with marquee names as he is about winning. He can't do that without glitz and starpower.

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:22 PM
Harris, Howard, Terry for Kobe? Is this Mav homer talk, or does it seem fairly reasonable?

other than Kobe and Dirk, the mavs would have no core.

PG- Barea
SG- Bryant
SF- Stackhouse
PF- Nowitzki
C- Dampier

Bench:

Diop
Buckner
Mbenga
Ager
??

We would have to sign 2-4 good free agents if we were to pull this deal. And we have 3 draft picks too.

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:22 PM
No it would have to be Amare, even though to match salaries it would prob have to be Marion.

What?

Infamous
05-30-2007, 01:23 PM
The three players from the Mavs I would say untouchable are Dirk, Harris, and Howard. Terry would be the first man out, and even though Stack is a very good sixth man, they wouldnt need three shooting guards if they get Kobe. They believe Harris can develop into a premier point guard, and Dirk is self-explanitory. and Kobe would be the player the Mavs are looking for, one that can excell in clutch situations and not feed the ball to Dirk every possession and put pressure on him.

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:24 PM
The Mavs Would probably have to include Dampier in the deal to even out the salaries.

Dampier, Howard, Harris/Terry for Kobe would work. L.A could have their choice of Jet or Harris.

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:26 PM
My best deal for Dallas...

Terry, Howard, Dampier, 2nd Round Pick, Future 1st round pick, sign and trade with Stackhouse for Kobe, Jordan Farmar.

freedom&justice
05-30-2007, 01:26 PM
The Mavs Would probably have to include Dampier in the deal to even out the salaries.

Dampier, Howard, Harris/Terry for Kobe would work. L.A could have their choice of Jet or Harris.

If you're Cubes, you'd want them to want Jet - but, they'll probably want Harris. Jet hasn't exactly helped his rep with his playoff antics.

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:27 PM
Kobe, Bynum for Vince Carter, J-Kidd, Kristic

monosylab1k
05-30-2007, 01:29 PM
If you're Cubes, you'd want them to want Jet - but, they'll probably want Harris. Jet hasn't exactly helped his rep with his playoff antics.

Honestly, if that trade went down (I doubt the Lakers would do it but hypothetically), then I'd much rather keep Terry and let them have Harris. With Kobe, you don't need a traditional PG, you need a guy like Terry than can spot up for a 3 or some other jumper. He could be a more explosive Derek Fisher type with Kobe. I have a feeling that Harris would not fit in nearly as well with Kobe's style as Terry would.

td4mvp21
05-30-2007, 01:30 PM
Harris, Howard, Terry for Kobe? Is this Mav homer talk, or does it seem fairly reasonable?

That's the most reasonable I've seen. But why would the Lakers trade to their own conference? Plus, the Lakers can trade to several teams in the East and get near equal value.

ducks
05-30-2007, 01:36 PM
really?
who?
lakers are not getting james

BUMP
05-30-2007, 01:38 PM
other than Kobe and Dirk, the mavs would have no core.

PG- Barea
SG- Bryant
SF- Stackhouse
PF- Nowitzki
C- Dampier


yikes, but if we could get that lineup, i'd be able to live with that. he can feed off the two superstars

monosylab1k
05-30-2007, 01:40 PM
yikes, but if we could get that lineup, i'd be able to live with that. he can feed off the two superstars

Plus, we could use the MLE to get a more qualified guy to start at PG. I say do everything in your power to make a Kobe deal happen as long as Dirk is not part of the trade. It's a long shot, but when a guy like Kobe is on the market you've gotta go for him.

td4mvp21
05-30-2007, 01:41 PM
really?
who?
lakers are not getting james

Uh, like Pierce, one of the Knicks several all-stars (Marbury, Francis), and even Jermaine O'Neal, who has been asking for a trade for a while. Those aren't equal to Kobe, but add another player to any of those deals and the Lakers don't walk away too emptyhanded. I'm not an expert on contracts and the salary cap, however, so I don't know if those would realistically work. They are ideas though.

ajh18
05-30-2007, 01:43 PM
Portland and Chicago both would be completely idiotic to make those trades.

It's not a bad trade for Chicago.

Lakers get: Deng, Gordon, Brown, and the Bulls #9 pick.
Chicago gets: Bryant

It does seem like Chicago is giving up alot, but their lineup is still strong.

Hinrich
Bryant
Nocioni
Thomas
Wallace

The Lakers also improve at 2 positions, maintain scoring at the 2, and have the option of drafting someone like Law to take over at PG next year with the pick.

Smush (Law?)
Gordon
Deng
Odom
Bynum

mardigan
05-30-2007, 01:44 PM
yikes, but if we could get that lineup, i'd be able to live with that. he can feed off the two superstars
Barea is a free agent according to Hoopshype
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm



http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine
Trade machine on ESPN to see what trades work salary wise and what not

ajh18
05-30-2007, 01:45 PM
The Brown re-signing and filler would have to be added to make the salaries work.

Amare_32
05-30-2007, 01:49 PM
Minnesota or Chicago. If anyone else suggested it there is no way the Lakers trade Kobe to any team in the Pacific Division and no way does he go to San Antonio or Dallas. Chicago is the likely place he will end up. Although Chicago should try and keep Gordon if possible.

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 01:50 PM
A deal this big might take 3 teams.

Amare_32
05-30-2007, 01:54 PM
Do you think Orlando makes a run at Kobe?

Mr.Bottomtooth
05-30-2007, 01:55 PM
Kobe for Amare, Barbosa. I could see it.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_21900.shtml
I could see that happen.

Mr.Bottomtooth
05-30-2007, 01:56 PM
TIME FOR EVERYONE TO TINKER WITH THE TRADE MACHINE!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 02:01 PM
TIME FOR EVERYONE TO TINKER WITH THE TRADE MACHINE!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine

better one..

http://realgm.com/src_tradechecker/1/

TheNextGen
05-30-2007, 02:02 PM
wow bosh and ford for Kobe is nice

mardigan
05-30-2007, 02:03 PM
I could see that happen.
You really think that the Lakers are going to trade Kobe to the hated Suns in the same division? I dont

Infamous
05-30-2007, 02:04 PM
^ Yeah it is..especially if Bynum can develop him and Bosh guarding the paint and being dominant on the offensive end would be phenomenal.

mardigan
05-30-2007, 02:04 PM
Gasol plus Miller works to, but Kobe would be just as fucked there.

Milwaukee seems like it would work for both teams. Redd plus Gadzuric plus the Bucks pick this year would probably work, and both teams would get better imo

steppy
05-30-2007, 02:07 PM
I don't really see a scenario where Kobe fits right into a contending situation. It seems as if any team he'd go to would have give up some major pieces in return.

makedamnsure
05-30-2007, 02:16 PM
I don't see the Lakers trading in the West at all..

dieman8686
05-30-2007, 02:18 PM
I don't see the Lakers trading in the West at all..
Just remember Kobe has the no-trade clause, so he has the Lakers by the balls, like someone else said before.

resistanze
05-30-2007, 02:19 PM
Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,150,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.4 REB: 3.9 AST: 2.1 PER: 14.52
Photo: Kris Humphries
Kris Humphries
Salary: $1,703,520 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.8 REB: 3.1 AST: 0.3 PER: 13.66
Photo: Rasho Nesterovic
Rasho Nesterovic
Salary: $7,280,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 6.2 REB: 4.5 AST: 0.9 PER: 13.92
Photo: Juan Dixon

FOR

Kobe Bryant
Salary: $17,718,750 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 31.6 REB: 5.7 AST: 5.4 PER: 26.13

Ronny Turiaf
Salary: $664,209 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.3 REB: 3.6 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.54

MAKE IT HAPPEN COLANGELO

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 02:19 PM
Oden and Randolph

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 02:20 PM
Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,150,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.4 REB: 3.9 AST: 2.1 PER: 14.52
Photo: Kris Humphries
Kris Humphries
Salary: $1,703,520 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.8 REB: 3.1 AST: 0.3 PER: 13.66
Photo: Rasho Nesterovic
Rasho Nesterovic
Salary: $7,280,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 6.2 REB: 4.5 AST: 0.9 PER: 13.92
Photo: Juan Dixon

FOR

Kobe Bryant
Salary: $17,718,750 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 31.6 REB: 5.7 AST: 5.4 PER: 26.13

Ronny Turiaf
Salary: $664,209 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.3 REB: 3.6 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.54

MAKE IT HAPPEN COLANGELO

:lol

dieman8686
05-30-2007, 02:20 PM
Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,150,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.4 REB: 3.9 AST: 2.1 PER: 14.52
Photo: Kris Humphries
Kris Humphries
Salary: $1,703,520 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.8 REB: 3.1 AST: 0.3 PER: 13.66
Photo: Rasho Nesterovic
Rasho Nesterovic
Salary: $7,280,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 6.2 REB: 4.5 AST: 0.9 PER: 13.92
Photo: Juan Dixon

FOR

Kobe Bryant
Salary: $17,718,750 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 31.6 REB: 5.7 AST: 5.4 PER: 26.13

Ronny Turiaf
Salary: $664,209 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.3 REB: 3.6 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.54

MAKE IT HAPPEN COLANGELO
What the? :downspin:

kingsfan
05-30-2007, 02:21 PM
China, Siberia, Europe, they all sound good to me :hungry:

JamStone
05-30-2007, 02:21 PM
Chicago doesn't have the salaries to match any offer to the Lakers. PJ Brown would have to agree to a sign-and-trade, and the Lakers would have to be foolish enough to offer him similar money that he's been making so it's enough to match salaries.

If Kobe goes to Chicago, Bulls would have to package Ben Wallace or try to find a third team to help make the trade happen. Why would the Lakers want Ben Wallace's contract. What team is going to help Chicago get Kobe Bryant?

mardigan
05-30-2007, 02:25 PM
Chicago doesn't have the salaries to match any offer to the Lakers. PJ Brown would have to agree to a sign-and-trade, and the Lakers would have to be foolish enough to offer him similar money that he's been making so it's enough to match salaries.

If Kobe goes to Chicago, Bulls would have to package Ben Wallace or try to find a third team to help make the trade happen. Why would the Lakers want Ben Wallace's contract. What team is going to help Chicago get Kobe Bryant?
Your right about Chicago, I cant see any trade that wouldnt destroy their team for Kobe, epecially when they are really only a low post scorer away from being able to challenge in the east. The more I look at it, the Bucks seem like a place that would work out for both teams, with both becoming better

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 02:26 PM
I still see dallas the place he lands.

resistanze
05-30-2007, 02:31 PM
:lol I wanted Bosh and Kobe together.

Now I know Bosh and TJ Ford are ass buddies but for Kobe? I'd traded Ford's ass and start Calderon, who'll probably end up better than Ford in a year or two.

Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,150,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.4 REB: 3.9 AST: 2.1 PER: 14.52

T.J. Ford
Salary: $2,929,467 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 14.0 REB: 3.1 AST: 7.9 PER: 18.30

Rasho Nesterovic
Salary: $7,280,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 6.2 REB: 4.5 AST: 0.9 PER: 13.

FOR

Kobe Bryant
Salary: $17,718,750 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 31.6 REB: 5.7 AST: 5.4 PER: 26.13

JULY 1ST

1.

BradLohaus
05-30-2007, 02:31 PM
If Detroit loses to Cleveland, or loses badly in the Finals, they would have plenty of assets to move for Kobe if they wanted to make a change. Prince, Hamilton and Delfino, for example. Or Billups in a sign and trade if they wanted to go that route.

The Lakers could get good value from Detroit, and Kobe is only going to want to play on a team he thinks he can lead to a title. Chicago fits in this category, but they would have to part with alot of young talent to make the salaries work, so I think they're out. Bosh and Ford would be perfect value for value, but I wonder if Kobe would be willing to play in Toronto with the players that would be left. (Rasho, Bargnani, Anthony Parker, Jorge Garbajosa, Jose Calderon - looks pretty similar to what he would be leaving in LA). I also doubt that Toronto would make this trade.

1.) Good value in return for the Lakers
2.) Kobe would want to play there (definite title contender with him on the team)
3.) The team receiving Kobe is actually improved (they won't be giving basically their whole team.)

Detroit meets that criteria better than any Eastern team, if they don't win the title this year.

mardigan
05-30-2007, 02:32 PM
:lol I wanted Bosh and Kobe together.

Now I know Bosh and TJ Ford are ass buddies but for Kobe? I'd traded Ford's ass and start Calderon, who'll probably end up better than Ford in a year or two.

Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,150,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.4 REB: 3.9 AST: 2.1 PER: 14.52

T.J. Ford
Salary: $2,929,467 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 14.0 REB: 3.1 AST: 7.9 PER: 18.30

Rasho Nesterovic
Salary: $7,280,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 6.2 REB: 4.5 AST: 0.9 PER: 13.

FOR

Kobe Bryant
Salary: $17,718,750 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 31.6 REB: 5.7 AST: 5.4 PER: 26.13

JULY 1ST

1.
Why the hell would the Lakers trade Kobe for that trash?

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 02:35 PM
If Detroit loses to Cleveland, or loses badly in the Finals, they would have plenty of assets to move for Kobe if they wanted to make a change. Prince, Hamilton and Delfino, for example. Or Billups in a sign and trade if they wanted to go that route.

The Lakers could get good value from Detroit, and Kobe is only going to want to play on a team he thinks he can lead to a title. Chicago fits in this category, but they would have to part with alot of young talent to make the salaries work, so I think they're out. Bosh and Ford would be perfect value for value, but I wonder if Kobe would be willing to play in Toronto with the players that would be left. (Rasho, Bargnani, Anthony Parker, Jorge Garbajosa, Jose Calderon - looks pretty similar to what he would be leaving in LA). I also doubt that Toronto would make this trade.

1.) Good value in return for the Lakers
2.) Kobe would want to play there (definite title contender with him on the team)
3.) The team receiving Kobe is actually improved (they won't be giving basically their whole team.)

Detroit meets that criteria better than any Eastern team, if they don't win the title this year.

Good Point. The Pistons are the best option in the east for L.A. The Bulls wont give up talent. Besides those 2 teams, Kobe would probably reject a trade offer to any other east team. I see him going to Detroit or staying out west.

resistanze
05-30-2007, 02:35 PM
Why the hell would the Lakers trade Kobe for that trash?

12.4 + 14.0 + 6.2 = 32 PPG > 31.6 PPG :downspin:

Hopefully they can't cut a good deal with anyone else :smokin

rednecksbasketball
05-30-2007, 02:43 PM
I know this is crazy, and I'm not even a Kobe fan, but how about Utah?

Andrei Kirilenko, Derek Fisher, Utahs 2007, 2009 first rounders and the first rounder owed to them by the Knicks.

Kirilenko needs a change of scenery, he's still a good player he just no longer fits with the Jazz. Fisher would give the Lakers a true PG. and the picks would help them rebuild, the Knicks pick is unprotected in 2010.

Kobe would make the already psudo-contender Jazz into a legit contender.

mardigan
05-30-2007, 02:45 PM
I know this is crazy, and I'm not even a Kobe fan, but how about Utah?

Andrei Kirilenko, Derek Fisher, Utahs 2007, 2009 first rounders and the first rounder owed to them by the Knicks.

Kirilenko needs a change of scenery, he's still a good player he just no longer fits with the Jazz. Fisher would give the Lakers a true PG. and the picks would help them rebuild, the Knicks pick is unprotected in 2010.

Kobe would make the already psudo-contender Jazz into a legit contender.
It would work, but you would probably have to throw in Okur as well. Okur plus AK plus Brewer would work

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 02:50 PM
Okur, Fisher, Ak47, and 2 first rounders would work

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 02:51 PM
Dallas has the most to offer of any team. Its just wether or not Cubes will give it up.

mardigan
05-30-2007, 02:51 PM
Okur, Fisher, Ak47, and 2 first rounders would work
Man, Boozer, Williams and Kobe on the same team would be absolutly unstoppable


Dallas has the most to offer of any team. Its just wether or not Cubes will give it up.
I just dont think its possible without Dirk involved. Terry and Howard dont make enough money wise to match up with Kobe. Maybe, Terry, Howard, Buckner and a 1st round pick might do it, but is that worth it?

Mr. Body
05-30-2007, 02:53 PM
Does anyone see Kobe wanting a low-limelight team like the Jazz? Even Detroit is a stretch.

New York is obvious in terms of market, but they wouldn't immediately be a contender. But put Kobe on there and you have a playoff team for sure.

Chicago is likely his first choice, but as said above, they need to S&T PJ Brown in order to get it to work, which is a bit nuts. I can see Gordon, Tyrus Thomas, plus one or two other things. I wonder if a S&T with Nocioni works, but likely not as he'll be BYC.

Otherwise I don't see much. Orlando might work. I know little of their team, but they might have enough.

florige
05-30-2007, 02:55 PM
Kobe and Raja on the same team?


lol, thats exactly what I was thinking. :lol

mardigan
05-30-2007, 02:57 PM
Otherwise I don't see much. Orlando might work. I know little of their team, but they might have enough.
Orlandos problem is that they dont have shit outside of Howard the Lakers would want. They could trade over half their roster and the Lakers still wouldnt be getting enough value

DarkReign
05-30-2007, 02:57 PM
http://www.realgm.com

Scroll down on the left side, youll see "Tracker Checker ID"

Input the number below.

Trade ID# 3857070

Dallas has no chance.

Mr. Body
05-30-2007, 02:59 PM
To be honest I think it's all smoke and Kobe will go back to the Lakes.

mardigan
05-30-2007, 03:00 PM
To be honest I think it's all smoke and Kobe will go back to the Lakes.
I agree with this, he just want attention. He will be back

dallaskd
05-30-2007, 03:01 PM
To be honest I think it's all smoke and Kobe will go back to the Lakes.

"On Wednesday, Kobe Bryant tells Stephen A. Smith on 1050 ESPN Radio in New York that he wants to be traded from the Lakers and that there's nothing the Lakers can do to change his mind."

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/46300/20070530/kobe_wants_to_be_traded/

he WILL be traded.

Purple & Gold
05-30-2007, 03:02 PM
"On Wednesday, Kobe Bryant tells Stephen A. Smith on 1050 ESPN Radio in New York that he wants to be traded from the Lakers and that there's nothing the Lakers can do to change his mind."

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/46300/20070530/kobe_wants_to_be_traded/

he WILL be traded.

He's on the radio right now saying he doesn't want to leave. :dramaquee

DDS4
05-30-2007, 03:14 PM
"On Wednesday, Kobe Bryant tells Stephen A. Smith on 1050 ESPN Radio in New York that he wants to be traded from the Lakers and that there's nothing the Lakers can do to change his mind."

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/46300/20070530/kobe_wants_to_be_traded/

he WILL be traded.

Kobe can cry all he wants. Buss has the trigger button. Kobe still has at least 2 years under contract.

Amare_32
05-30-2007, 03:15 PM
Kobe can cry all he wants. Buss has the trigger button. Kobe still has at least 2 years under contract.


Buss can be a total asshole and not trade him. Of course he runs the risks of Kobe tanking games are not even playing due to "injury" to force a trade.

RonMexico
05-30-2007, 03:16 PM
he should get traded to SA for the Carmex that hit Bruce Bowen

BigBeezie
05-30-2007, 03:28 PM
Send Kobe and Derek Fisher to the WNBA. They are both a couple of drama queens.

Anne Frank
05-30-2007, 03:44 PM
Real GM (http://www.realgm.com)

trade id:3858284

Mr.Bottomtooth
05-30-2007, 03:49 PM
Who TF is this guy?

Medvedenko
05-30-2007, 04:56 PM
I would like to see him Toronto if he can't kiss and make up with the Lakers.
I would Trade:
TJ Ford
Andrea
Morris Peterson (sign and Trade)
Garbajosa...whoever else

Putting Bosh plus Kobe would be sick. Plus, I live in Canada, so I would get to see every game without League pass.

Kamnik
05-30-2007, 05:04 PM
I would like to see him Toronto if he can't kiss and make up with the Lakers.
I would Trade:
TJ Ford
Andrea
Morris Peterson (sign and Trade)
Garbajosa...whoever else

Putting Bosh plus Kobe would be sick. Plus, I live in Canada, so I would get to see every game without League pass.


toronto doesnt need kobe and bosh (bosh is more perimeter oriented so that doesnt mesh well imo)


all toronto needs to do is trade TJ for a good 3 SF and maybe sign and trade Morrison for a decent player or 2 if possible


Baragnani has HUGE potential imo! he could become better than Bosh in 2 or so years (considering Bosh also developes a bit)


Bosh,Baragnani,Parker,Calderon + a good wing player you get for TJ+Morrison

Rasho cant be traded probably contract too shitty)

texasqb2
05-30-2007, 05:14 PM
This is so silly...they lock a thread in the spurs forum about just playful deals for Kobe...what the heck kind of forum has this become? And why can't you look for your old posts anymore? Anyway...it's not like I think the Spurs can acquire Kobe, A)they can't afford him money wise, B)They would have to deal either Duncan or Tony and Manu, C)I don't see the Lakers trading him period and certainly not to the Spurs. But it is silly how some spur fans become blinded by saying Kobe wouldn't be worth it. I believe he is the greatest competitor if not player of all-time. This guy just wants to win, people say he is a ball hog, well I don't think anyone else on his team could make a shot, he wishes he could pass the ball. Kobe and Tim would go down as the greatest tandem of all-time.

TampaDude
05-30-2007, 06:31 PM
Heh...now the report on ESPN says that Kobe wants to stay in LA. :dizzy

Ocotillo
05-30-2007, 07:38 PM
Kobe, if he wants out, has hamstrung the Lakers by going public with his trade request. They (LA) could get more without the other teams knowing the spot the LA front office finds itself in.

Kobe has a no trade clause in his contract so bottom line he can veto certain places. For example, they couldn't just ship him to Minnesota for Kevin Garnett because Kobe would not want to play in small market Minne, the weather up there and the team he would have around him.

On a personal level, Vanessa still has his balls in her purse due to the Colorado incident (which also eliminates Denver as an option). Word is, she does not want to leave LA. That would mean the first option in his mind would be the Clippers. What if his agent were to talk Sterling into hiring West as GM in place of Baylor? The other options would be cities that are a short commute from LA (Phoenix, Golden State, Sacramento). I don't see Lakers managment getting to excited about shipping off one of the premier players in the league to an in conference rival.

Bottom line: I don't think he is going anywhere. He will meet with Buss, Kupchak and Jackson and have a presser saying the Lakers front office is committed to winning right away and this will go away.

monosylab1k
05-30-2007, 11:19 PM
Bill Simmons has pitched in with Kobe trade possibilities. Too bad Kobe couldn't give us ONE FULL DAY of speculation before he bitched out like that.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/blog/index?name=simmons&entryDate=20070530

and I'd do this in a HEARTBEAT


Deal No. 4: Dallas trades Josh Howard, Jason Terry and Jerry Stackhouse (sign-and-trade starting at $7.3 million per) for Kobe.

Comments: I'm intrigued by this one because (A) the Lakers would be competitive with a Howard-Terry-Odom-Bynum nucleus; (B) Kobe would solve all of Nowitzki's toughness/crunch-time problems; and (C) Dallas could probably win a title with Kobe, Nowitzki, the Diop/Dampier combo, Devin Harris and seven guys they found on the street. But would the Lakers ever trade Kobe to a Western contender? And would Cuban ever admit that Dirk was irrevocably damaged by the 2006 Finals and the Warriors-Mavs series, to the degree that he needed to acquire another crunch-time guy? If the Mavs didn't have the testicular fortitude to pull off a Shaq trade three years ago, they won't have the gulliones to go after Kobe.

KidCongo
05-31-2007, 08:29 AM
No way i would not like Kobe going near the bulls or even the bucks. STay away from central division in east, it's already the best in east...

NBA Junkie
05-31-2007, 10:15 AM
Kobe ain't going anywhere. I don't think he was ever serious about leaving.

He's just grandstanding to get the FO off their asses and serious about making a major move to get a Jermaine O'Neal or a Kevin Garnett this offseason.

naico
05-31-2007, 10:35 AM
He's not goin' anywhere..But if Dallas could somehow land Kobe and keep howard,harris nd terry..they would be the team to beat

Infamous
05-31-2007, 10:43 AM
All of the NBA executives who spoke on the topic of Bryant's apparent trade demand mentioned two teams to which Bryant could be dealt: The Bulls and Suns.

ESPN's source says that Bryant has been looking at Chicago for the past month as a place he'd like to continue his career.

Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Adrian Griffin, and Victor Khryapa are mentioned as the principal parts of a potential Bulls offer. The Bulls also have the 9th overall pick in the upcoming draft.

This may be the best talent swap the Lakers could garner in a Bryant blockbuster.

DarkReign
05-31-2007, 11:54 AM
Kobe ain't going anywhere. I don't think he was ever serious about leaving.

He's just grandstanding to get the FO off their asses and serious about making a major move to get a Jermaine O'Neal or a Kevin Garnett this offseason.

If that was his objective, good on him. If thats what it takes to make the FO of the Lakers wake-the-fuck-up, then Im with it.

I hate the Lakers (as I am sure most do here), but watching the best player in the world play with Odom and Scrubs 3-12 was a bit much.