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spurster
12-01-2004, 09:18 AM
Here are the efficiency rankings to the end of November for all NBA players who have played this season.

Efficiency is calculated by:
(PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) - ((FGA - FGM) + (FTA - FTM) + TO)
Basically, it adds up the good things and subtracts most of the bad things. Personal fouls, technical fouls, ejections, and fighting fans in the stands are not included.

Rankings are indicated by the numbers in parentheses. The players are ordered by total efficiency, but you can see the rankings for efficiency/game and efficiency/minute.

The first table just shows the Spurs. The next table has all players:



Efficiency Efficiency Efficiency
Name Team Games Per Game Per Minute Total
Duncan, Tim SA 15 27.93 (4) 0.783 (4) 419 (3)
Ginobili, Manu SA 15 18.93 (35) 0.657 (15) 284 (24)
Nesterovic, Rasho SA 15 11.73 (120) 0.442 (133) 176 (90)
Parker, Tony SA 15 11.67 (121) 0.349 (252) 175 (92)
Barry, Brent SA 15 10.67 (134) 0.429 (144) 160 (112)
Rose, Malik SA 15 7.93 (187) 0.474 (97) 119 (158)
Bowen, Bruce SA 15 7.00 (202) 0.240 (336) 105 (176)
Brown, Devin SA 15 4.60 (277) 0.377 (216) 69 (234)
Udrih, Beno SA 15 4.27 (290) 0.322 (288) 64 (248)
Horry, Robert SA 14 4.50 (282) 0.342 (258) 63 (249)
Massenburg, Tony SA 10 1.60 (350) 0.222 (350) 16 (327)
Wilks, Mike SA 9 1.33 (361) 0.353 (249) 12 (336)




Efficiency Efficiency Efficiency
Name Team Games Per Game Per Minute Total
Garnett, Kevin MIN 13 34.38 (1) 0.882 (3) 447 (1)
Nowitzki, Dirk DAL 15 28.33 (3) 0.763 (5) 425 (2)
Duncan, Tim SA 15 27.93 (4) 0.783 (4) 419 (3)
James, LeBron CLE 14 29.71 (2) 0.725 (7) 416 (4)
O'Neal, Shaquille MIA 16 24.06 (11) 0.686 (10) 385 (5)
Bryant, Kobe LAL 15 25.47 (8) 0.596 (30) 382 (6)
Wade, Dwyane MIA 14 27.07 (5) 0.690 (9) 379 (7)
Marion, Shawn PHO 14 26.86 (6) 0.675 (12) 376 (8)
Stoudemire, Amare PHO 14 26.57 (7) 0.725 (6) 372 (9)
Boozer, Carlos UTA 15 22.87 (17) 0.647 (18) 343 (10)
Allen, Ray SEA 16 21.06 (24) 0.524 (59) 337 (11)
Brand, Elton LAC 15 21.73 (21) 0.575 (36) 326 (12)
Nash, Steve PHO 14 23.00 (15) 0.665 (14) 322 (13)
Webber, Chris SAC 14 22.93 (16) 0.642 (19) 321 (14)
Randolph, Zach POR 14 21.86 (20) 0.571 (37) 306 (15)
Marbury, Stephon NY 13 23.46 (12) 0.599 (29) 305 (16)
Pierce, Paul BOS 13 23.31 (13) 0.613 (25) 303 (17)
Kirilenko, Andrei UTA 14 21.57 (22) 0.627 (21) 302 (18)
Odom, Lamar LAL 15 20.00 (30) 0.562 (41) 300 (19)
Simmons, Bobby LAC 15 19.87 (31) 0.543 (48) 298 (20)
Lewis, Rashard SEA 16 18.38 (38) 0.473 (102) 294 (21)
Miller, Brad SAC 14 20.93 (25) 0.586 (32) 293 (22)
Yao, Ming HOU 16 17.81 (46) 0.565 (38) 285 (23)
Ginobili, Manu SA 15 18.93 (35) 0.657 (15) 284 (24)
Jamison, Antawn WAS 12 23.17 (14) 0.554 (43) 278 (25)
Jefferson, Richard NJ 14 19.71 (33) 0.467 (106) 276 (26)
Ilgauskas, Zydrunas CLE 14 19.21 (34) 0.549 (46) 269 (27)
Walker, Antoine ATL 14 18.93 (36) 0.455 (117) 265 (28)
Alston, Rafer TOR 16 16.50 (56) 0.497 (80) 264 (29)
Francis, Steve ORL 13 20.08 (29) 0.532 (56) 261 (30)
Hill, Grant ORL 13 19.85 (32) 0.554 (44) 258 (31)
McGrady, Tracy HOU 14 18.29 (39) 0.451 (118) 256 (32)
Martin, Kenyon DEN 14 18.14 (41) 0.542 (49) 254 (33)
Bibby, Mike SAC 14 17.93 (42) 0.480 (93) 251 (34)
Billups, Chauncey DET 12 20.83 (26) 0.539 (50) 250 (35)
Gooden, Drew CLE 14 17.86 (45) 0.607 (26) 250 (35)
Haslem, Udonis MIA 16 15.50 (60) 0.488 (83) 248 (37)
Gasol, Pau MEM 12 20.50 (27) 0.653 (17) 246 (38)
Iverson, Allen PHI 12 20.50 (27) 0.484 (85) 246 (38)
Croshere, Austin IND 14 17.50 (49) 0.471 (103) 245 (40)
Stojakovic, Peja SAC 14 17.50 (49) 0.439 (136) 245 (40)
Abdur-Rahim, Shareef POR 14 17.36 (51) 0.523 (62) 243 (42)
Jaric, Marko LAC 15 16.13 (57) 0.465 (107) 242 (43)
Thomas, Kurt NY 13 18.38 (37) 0.511 (68) 239 (44)
Hamilton, Richard DET 14 17.00 (52) 0.418 (153) 238 (45)
Bosh, Chris TOR 16 14.81 (66) 0.416 (159) 237 (46)
Okafor, Emeka CHA 13 17.92 (43) 0.515 (64) 233 (47)
Tinsley, Jamaal IND 13 17.92 (43) 0.482 (88) 233 (47)
Hughes, Larry WAS 11 21.09 (23) 0.589 (31) 232 (49)
Mohammed, Nazr NY 13 17.77 (47) 0.628 (20) 231 (50)
Jackson, Jim HOU 16 14.31 (77) 0.349 (253) 229 (51)
Howard, Josh DAL 16 13.94 (84) 0.402 (174) 223 (52)
Wilcox, Chris LAC 15 14.73 (69) 0.492 (82) 221 (53)
Carter, Vince TOR 16 13.75 (90) 0.445 (126) 220 (54)
Van Horn, Keith MIL 12 18.25 (40) 0.497 (81) 219 (55)
Howard, Dwight ORL 13 16.54 (55) 0.537 (52) 215 (56)
Redd, Michael MIL 12 17.67 (48) 0.439 (137) 212 (57)
Daniels, Antonio SEA 16 13.12 (99) 0.473 (101) 210 (58)
Harrington, Al ATL 14 14.93 (65) 0.380 (208) 209 (59)
LaFrentz, Raef BOS 13 15.69 (58) 0.605 (27) 204 (60)
Miller, Mike MEM 15 13.60 (93) 0.564 (40) 204 (60)
Ridnour, Luke SEA 16 12.69 (106) 0.410 (167) 203 (62)
McInnis, Jeff CLE 14 14.43 (74) 0.380 (210) 202 (63)
Johnson, Joe PHO 14 14.43 (74) 0.377 (218) 202 (63)
Mason, Desmond MIL 12 16.67 (53) 0.513 (66) 200 (65)
Korver, Kyle PHI 13 15.31 (61) 0.509 (69) 199 (66)
Jackson, Marc PHI 13 15.23 (62) 0.550 (45) 198 (67)
Maggette, Corey LAC 13 15.23 (62) 0.432 (142) 198 (67)
McDyess, Antonio DET 14 13.86 (87) 0.508 (70) 194 (69)
Butler, Caron LAL 15 12.93 (104) 0.401 (176) 194 (69)
Prince, Tayshaun DET 14 13.79 (89) 0.378 (215) 193 (71)
Daniels, Marquis DAL 16 11.88 (118) 0.428 (145) 190 (72)
Mihm, Chris LAL 14 13.50 (95) 0.505 (73) 189 (73)
Miller, Andre DEN 14 13.50 (95) 0.391 (186) 189 (73)
Okur, Mehmet UTA 15 12.60 (108) 0.564 (39) 189 (73)
Payton, Gary BOS 13 14.46 (73) 0.447 (123) 188 (76)
Iguodala, Andre PHI 13 14.23 (78) 0.464 (111) 185 (77)
Brown, P.J. NO 13 14.23 (78) 0.411 (165) 185 (77)
Arenas, Gilbert WAS 11 16.64 (54) 0.425 (149) 183 (79)
Wallace, Rasheed DET 14 13.07 (101) 0.395 (181) 183 (79)
Stoudamire, Damon POR 14 13.07 (101) 0.381 (206) 183 (79)
Anthony, Carmelo DEN 13 14.00 (81) 0.393 (184) 182 (82)
Boykins, Earl DEN 14 13.00 (103) 0.462 (113) 182 (82)
Turkoglu, Hedo ORL 13 13.92 (85) 0.485 (84) 181 (84)
Rose, Jalen TOR 15 12.07 (114) 0.384 (199) 181 (84)
Camby, Marcus DEN 12 15.00 (64) 0.500 (75) 180 (86)
Richardson, Jason GS 13 13.85 (88) 0.381 (204) 180 (86)
Crawford, Jamal NY 13 13.69 (92) 0.374 (222) 178 (88)
O'Neal, Jermaine IND 8 22.12 (19) 0.668 (13) 177 (89)
Artest, Ron IND 7 25.14 (9) 0.605 (28) 176 (90)
Nesterovic, Rasho SA 15 11.73 (120) 0.442 (133) 176 (90)
Davis, Ricky BOS 13 13.46 (97) 0.385 (197) 175 (92)
Parker, Tony SA 15 11.67 (121) 0.349 (252) 175 (92)
Atkins, Chucky LAL 15 11.60 (123) 0.337 (263) 174 (94)
Evans, Reggie SEA 16 10.88 (131) 0.416 (157) 174 (94)
Brezec, Primoz CHA 13 13.23 (98) 0.442 (134) 172 (96)
Mourning, Alonzo NJ 14 12.21 (110) 0.476 (96) 171 (97)
Murphy, Troy GS 12 14.00 (81) 0.416 (158) 168 (98)
Jones, Fred IND 12 14.00 (81) 0.391 (189) 168 (98)
Fortson, Danny SEA 14 11.86 (119) 0.692 (8) 166 (100)
Wells, Bonzi MEM 15 11.07 (127) 0.391 (190) 166 (100)
Jones, Eddie MIA 16 10.38 (140) 0.314 (295) 166 (100)
Swift, Stromile MEM 12 13.75 (90) 0.579 (33) 165 (103)
Dampier, Erick DAL 15 11.00 (128) 0.409 (169) 165 (103)
Hayes, Jarvis WAS 12 13.58 (94) 0.421 (151) 163 (105)
Hinrich, Kirk CHI 11 14.73 (70) 0.418 (154) 162 (106)
Richardson, Quentin PHO 14 11.57 (124) 0.331 (275) 162 (106)
Anderson, Derek POR 14 11.57 (124) 0.329 (276) 162 (106)
Moore, Mikki LAC 15 10.73 (133) 0.537 (54) 161 (109)
Jones, Damon MIA 16 10.06 (148) 0.361 (236) 161 (109)
Stackhouse, Jerry DAL 16 10.06 (148) 0.332 (274) 161 (109)
Magloire, Jamaal NO 11 14.55 (72) 0.443 (131) 160 (112)
Barry, Brent SA 15 10.67 (134) 0.429 (144) 160 (112)
Woods, Loren TOR 16 10.00 (150) 0.473 (100) 160 (112)
Blount, Mark BOS 13 12.23 (109) 0.405 (172) 159 (115)
Szczerbiak, Wally MIN 13 12.15 (111) 0.395 (182) 158 (116)
Wesley, David NO 13 12.15 (111) 0.350 (251) 158 (116)
Battier, Shane MEM 15 10.53 (138) 0.372 (225) 158 (116)
Cassell, Sam MIN 13 12.08 (113) 0.434 (140) 157 (119)
Terry, Jason DAL 15 10.33 (141) 0.412 (164) 155 (120)
Taylor, Maurice HOU 16 9.69 (159) 0.348 (254) 155 (120)
Giricek, Gordan UTA 15 10.27 (142) 0.477 (95) 154 (122)
Bonner, Matt TOR 16 9.50 (164) 0.547 (47) 152 (123)
Smith, Joe MIL 10 14.60 (71) 0.480 (92) 146 (124)
Williams, Eric NJ 14 10.43 (139) 0.302 (302) 146 (124)
Bell, Raja UTA 15 9.73 (156) 0.369 (226) 146 (124)
Radmanovic, Vladimir SEA 16 9.06 (173) 0.333 (265) 145 (127)
Deng, Luol CHI 11 13.09 (100) 0.449 (119) 144 (128)
Claxton, Speedy GS 12 11.92 (115) 0.401 (177) 143 (129)
Williams, Maurice MIL 12 11.92 (115) 0.390 (192) 143 (129)
Watson, Earl MEM 15 9.53 (163) 0.424 (150) 143 (129)
Christie, Doug SAC 13 10.92 (130) 0.363 (232) 142 (132)
Haywood, Brendan WAS 9 15.67 (59) 0.511 (67) 141 (133)
Jackson, Bobby SAC 14 10.00 (150) 0.465 (109) 140 (134)
Wright, Lorenzen MEM 14 10.00 (150) 0.395 (180) 140 (134)
Cato, Kelvin ORL 10 13.90 (86) 0.525 (58) 139 (136)
Armstrong, Darrell NO 13 10.62 (135) 0.356 (243) 138 (137)
Wallace, Gerald CHA 13 10.62 (135) 0.355 (246) 138 (137)
Wallace, Ben DET 6 22.83 (18) 0.576 (35) 137 (139)
Dunleavy, Mike GS 13 10.54 (137) 0.337 (262) 137 (139)
Miles, Darius POR 14 9.64 (160) 0.410 (166) 135 (141)
Buckner, Greg DEN 14 9.57 (161) 0.427 (146) 134 (142)
Cook, Brian LAL 15 8.93 (176) 0.502 (74) 134 (142)
Hart, Jason CHA 9 14.78 (68) 0.514 (65) 133 (144)
Sprewell, Latrell MIN 13 10.23 (144) 0.325 (281) 133 (144)
Harpring, Matt UTA 12 11.00 (128) 0.396 (179) 132 (146)
Williams, Jason MEM 14 9.43 (168) 0.354 (248) 132 (146)
Knight, Brevin CHA 9 14.33 (76) 0.506 (72) 129 (148)
Jackson, Stephen IND 9 14.22 (80) 0.368 (228) 128 (149)
Chandler, Tyson CHI 11 11.64 (122) 0.457 (116) 128 (149)
Hassell, Trenton MIN 13 9.85 (154) 0.394 (183) 128 (149)
Childress, Josh ATL 13 9.69 (158) 0.447 (122) 126 (152)
House, Eddie CHA 13 9.54 (162) 0.413 (162) 124 (153)
Peterson, Morris TOR 16 7.75 (191) 0.362 (235) 124 (153)
Gadzuric, Dan MIL 12 10.17 (146) 0.484 (86) 122 (155)
Davis, Baron NO 5 24.20 (10) 0.654 (16) 121 (156)
Fisher, Derek GS 13 9.31 (171) 0.377 (217) 121 (156)
Griffin, Eddie MIN 10 11.90 (117) 0.613 (24) 119 (158)
Ratliff, Theo POR 14 8.50 (180) 0.298 (305) 119 (158)
Rose, Malik SA 15 7.93 (187) 0.474 (97) 119 (158)
Lue, Tyronn HOU 16 7.44 (196) 0.312 (296) 119 (158)
Sweetney, Michael NY 13 9.00 (174) 0.537 (53) 117 (162)
Harris, Devin DAL 16 7.31 (197) 0.322 (286) 117 (162)
Smith, Steve CHA 12 9.50 (164) 0.458 (115) 114 (164)
Williamson, Corliss PHI 13 8.77 (177) 0.415 (160) 114 (164)
Snow, Eric CLE 14 8.14 (182) 0.361 (237) 114 (164)
Palacio, Milt TOR 16 7.12 (200) 0.410 (168) 114 (164)
Patterson, Ruben POR 14 8.07 (184) 0.438 (138) 113 (168)
Anderson, Kenny ATL 14 8.00 (185) 0.319 (289) 112 (169)
Murray, Lamond TOR 16 7.00 (202) 0.443 (132) 112 (169)
Nailon, Lee NO 11 10.09 (147) 0.407 (170) 111 (171)
Jones, James IND 11 9.91 (153) 0.387 (194) 109 (172)
Hoiberg, Fred MIN 11 9.82 (155) 0.519 (63) 108 (173)
Henderson, Alan DAL 16 6.69 (213) 0.446 (125) 107 (174)
Planinic, Zoran NJ 14 7.57 (192) 0.391 (187) 106 (175)
Cardinal, Brian MEM 13 8.08 (183) 0.417 (155) 105 (176)
Bowen, Bruce SA 15 7.00 (202) 0.240 (336) 105 (176)
West, David NO 12 8.67 (178) 0.477 (94) 104 (178)
Andersen, Chris NO 13 7.92 (188) 0.498 (79) 103 (179)
Mutombo, Dikembe HOU 15 6.87 (209) 0.523 (61) 103 (179)
Jefferson, Al BOS 13 7.77 (190) 0.577 (34) 101 (181)
Eisley, Howard UTA 15 6.73 (211) 0.354 (247) 101 (181)
Hudson, Troy MIN 13 7.54 (193) 0.381 (205) 98 (183)
Ward, Charlie HOU 13 7.54 (193) 0.277 (317) 98 (183)
Collins, Jason NJ 14 7.00 (202) 0.241 (335) 98 (183)
Welsch, Jiri BOS 13 7.46 (195) 0.383 (200) 97 (186)
Dixon, Juan WAS 12 8.00 (185) 0.462 (114) 96 (187)
Songaila, Darius SAC 14 6.86 (210) 0.444 (128) 96 (187)
Nocioni, Andres CHI 11 8.64 (179) 0.339 (259) 95 (189)
Allen, Malik MIA 10 9.40 (169) 0.465 (108) 94 (190)
Best, Travis NJ 12 7.83 (189) 0.357 (241) 94 (190)
Scalabrine, Brian NJ 14 6.71 (212) 0.338 (261) 94 (190)
Butler, Rasual MIA 16 5.88 (240) 0.222 (352) 94 (190)
Drobnjak, Predrag ATL 10 9.30 (172) 0.413 (162) 93 (194)
Curry, Eddy CHI 9 10.22 (145) 0.357 (242) 92 (195)
Traylor, Robert CLE 14 6.57 (216) 0.383 (201) 92 (195)
Bogans, Keith CHA 8 11.38 (126) 0.401 (175) 91 (197)
Battie, Tony ORL 13 6.92 (207) 0.332 (273) 90 (198)
Collins, Jarron UTA 15 6.00 (232) 0.325 (282) 90 (198)
Howard, Juwan HOU 14 6.29 (223) 0.325 (283) 88 (200)
Foyle, Adonal GS 12 7.25 (199) 0.383 (202) 87 (201)
Kapono, Jason CHA 13 6.62 (215) 0.336 (264) 86 (202)
Harrison, David IND 14 6.14 (231) 0.312 (297) 86 (202)
Green, Willie PHI 13 6.54 (218) 0.282 (311) 85 (204)
Arroyo, Carlos UTA 9 9.33 (170) 0.322 (287) 84 (205)
Hardaway, Anfernee NY 12 6.92 (208) 0.289 (309) 83 (206)
Barry, Jon ATL 14 5.93 (237) 0.325 (280) 83 (206)
Marshall, Donyell TOR 8 10.25 (143) 0.474 (98) 82 (208)
McLeod, Keith UTA 9 9.00 (174) 0.445 (127) 81 (209)
Ross, Quinton LAC 13 6.23 (226) 0.297 (306) 81 (209)
Jeffries, Jared WAS 11 7.27 (198) 0.319 (290) 80 (211)
Williams, Jerome NY 13 6.15 (229) 0.465 (109) 80 (211)
White, Rodney DEN 13 6.15 (229) 0.372 (224) 80 (211)
James, Jerome SEA 16 4.88 (268) 0.308 (299) 78 (214)
Davis, Dale GS 13 5.92 (238) 0.376 (219) 77 (215)
Pollard, Scot IND 6 12.67 (107) 0.481 (90) 76 (216)
Salmons, John PHI 8 9.50 (164) 0.382 (203) 76 (216)
Jacobsen, Casey PHO 14 5.43 (250) 0.265 (326) 76 (216)
Brunson, Rick LAC 13 5.77 (243) 0.484 (87) 75 (219)
Hunter, Lindsey DET 14 5.36 (251) 0.300 (303) 75 (219)
Van Exel, Nick POR 14 5.36 (251) 0.253 (332) 75 (219)
Finley, Michael DAL 5 14.80 (67) 0.468 (104) 74 (222)
Dalembert, Samuel PHI 9 8.22 (181) 0.438 (139) 74 (222)
Gill, Eddie IND 14 5.29 (254) 0.276 (318) 74 (222)
Garrity, Pat ORL 13 5.62 (248) 0.324 (285) 73 (225)
Collison, Nick SEA 16 4.56 (280) 0.380 (207) 73 (225)
Thomas, Kenny PHI 12 6.00 (232) 0.262 (328) 72 (227)
Ariza, Trevor NY 13 5.54 (249) 0.385 (198) 72 (227)
Barnes, Matt SAC 14 5.14 (258) 0.367 (230) 72 (227)
Olowokandi, Michael MIN 10 7.10 (201) 0.343 (257) 71 (230)
Campbell, Elden DET 12 5.83 (241) 0.464 (112) 70 (231)
Collier, Jason ATL 12 5.83 (241) 0.317 (293) 70 (231)
Vaughn, Jacque NJ 14 5.00 (263) 0.311 (298) 70 (231)
Russell, Bryon DEN 11 6.27 (224) 0.406 (171) 69 (234)
Thomas, Tim NY 13 5.31 (253) 0.216 (355) 69 (234)
Brown, Devin SA 15 4.60 (277) 0.377 (216) 69 (234)
James, Mike MIL 7 9.71 (157) 0.374 (223) 68 (237)
Grant, Brian LAL 11 6.18 (227) 0.386 (195) 68 (237)
Ruffin, Michael WAS 12 5.67 (245) 0.283 (310) 68 (237)
Lynch, George NO 12 5.67 (245) 0.263 (327) 68 (237)
Elson, Francisco DEN 13 5.23 (256) 0.347 (255) 68 (237)
Griffin, Adrian CHI 11 6.00 (232) 0.446 (124) 66 (242)
Allen, Tony BOS 13 5.08 (261) 0.420 (152) 66 (242)
Cheaney, Calbert GS 13 5.08 (261) 0.265 (324) 66 (242)
Delk, Tony ATL 6 10.83 (132) 0.399 (178) 65 (245)
Najera, Eduardo GS 13 5.00 (263) 0.392 (185) 65 (245)
Doleac, Michael MIA 16 4.06 (297) 0.327 (279) 65 (245)
Udrih, Beno SA 15 4.27 (290) 0.322 (288) 64 (248)
Horry, Robert SA 14 4.50 (282) 0.342 (258) 63 (249)
Livingston, Shaun LAC 11 5.64 (247) 0.266 (323) 62 (250)
Stevenson, DeShawn ORL 12 5.17 (257) 0.268 (321) 62 (250)
Jones, Dahntay MEM 13 4.77 (273) 0.325 (284) 62 (250)
Hunter, Steven PHO 12 5.08 (260) 0.449 (120) 61 (253)
Newble, Ira CLE 14 4.29 (289) 0.198 (362) 60 (254)
Davis, Antonio CHI 9 6.56 (217) 0.306 (300) 59 (255)
Robinson, Clifford GS 13 4.54 (281) 0.219 (354) 59 (255)
Piatkowski, Eric CHI 9 6.44 (220) 0.389 (193) 58 (257)
Jones, Jumaine LAL 9 6.44 (220) 0.358 (240) 58 (257)
Dooling, Keyon MIA 9 6.33 (222) 0.538 (51) 57 (259)
Ivey, Royal ATL 10 5.70 (244) 0.375 (220) 57 (259)
Gordon, Ben CHI 11 5.09 (259) 0.231 (342) 56 (261)
Harris, Lucious CLE 14 4.00 (298) 0.256 (331) 56 (261)
Banks, Marcus BOS 12 4.58 (279) 0.355 (245) 55 (263)
Harrington, Othella CHI 9 6.00 (232) 0.362 (233) 54 (264)
Diaw, Boris ATL 12 4.50 (282) 0.226 (347) 54 (264)
Williams, Aaron NJ 13 4.15 (293) 0.425 (148) 54 (264)
Madsen, Mark MIN 13 4.15 (293) 0.277 (316) 54 (264)
Willis, Kevin ATL 9 5.89 (239) 0.368 (227) 53 (268)
Voskuhl, Jake PHO 11 4.82 (270) 0.405 (172) 53 (268)
Duhon, Chris CHI 11 4.82 (270) 0.224 (349) 53 (268)
Nachbar, Bostjan HOU 14 3.79 (306) 0.265 (325) 53 (268)
Smith, Josh ATL 11 4.73 (275) 0.391 (188) 52 (272)
Borchardt, Curtis UTA 12 4.33 (288) 0.441 (135) 52 (272)
Mobley, Cuttino ORL 4 12.75 (105) 0.443 (130) 51 (274)
Padgett, Scott HOU 10 5.00 (263) 0.532 (55) 50 (275)
Barbosa, Leandro PHO 10 5.00 (263) 0.362 (234) 50 (275)
Bradley, Shawn DAL 15 3.33 (317) 0.368 (229) 50 (275)
Harrington, Junior NO 7 7.00 (202) 0.355 (244) 49 (278)
Johnson, DerMarr DEN 11 4.36 (287) 0.378 (214) 48 (279)
Strickland, Erick MIL 12 4.00 (298) 0.268 (322) 48 (279)
Nelson, Jameer ORL 13 3.54 (310) 0.272 (320) 46 (281)
Buford, Rodney NJ 13 3.54 (310) 0.183 (366) 46 (281)
Brown, Tierre LAL 15 2.80 (330) 0.211 (359) 42 (283)
Peeler, Anthony WAS 10 4.10 (295) 0.333 (265) 41 (284)
Ely, Melvin CHA 10 4.10 (295) 0.214 (356) 41 (284)
Anderson, Shandon MIA 11 3.73 (308) 0.202 (361) 41 (284)
Walton, Luke LAL 10 4.00 (298) 0.339 (260) 40 (287)
Delfino, Carlos DET 8 4.88 (268) 0.317 (291) 39 (288)
Davis, Josh PHI 13 3.00 (324) 0.390 (191) 39 (288)
McCarty, Walter BOS 13 3.00 (324) 0.244 (334) 39 (288)
Pachulia, Zaza MIL 6 6.17 (228) 0.298 (304) 37 (291)
Tsakalidis, Jake MEM 7 5.29 (254) 0.430 (143) 37 (291)
Person, Wesley MIA 10 3.70 (309) 0.280 (312) 37 (291)
Johnson, Ervin MIN 8 4.25 (291) 0.523 (60) 34 (294)
Williams, Scott CLE 10 3.40 (315) 0.447 (121) 34 (294)
Booth, Calvin DAL 11 3.09 (323) 0.327 (278) 34 (294)
Sesay, Ansu GS 7 4.71 (276) 0.508 (71) 33 (297)
Ham, Darvin DET 14 2.36 (336) 0.244 (333) 33 (297)
Skinner, Brian PHI 8 4.00 (298) 0.317 (292) 32 (299)
Przybilla, Joel POR 9 3.22 (322) 0.468 (105) 29 (300)
McCoy, Jelani ATL 8 3.38 (316) 0.360 (238) 27 (301)
Pietrus, Mickael GS 4 6.25 (225) 0.379 (212) 25 (302)
Profit, Laron WAS 5 5.00 (263) 0.481 (91) 25 (302)
Hilario, Nene DEN 6 4.17 (292) 0.212 (357) 25 (302)
Sampson, Jamal CHA 5 4.80 (272) 0.358 (239) 24 (305)
Ostertag, Greg SAC 11 2.18 (342) 0.231 (343) 24 (305)
Laettner, Christian MIA 5 4.60 (277) 0.343 (256) 23 (307)
Diop, DeSagana CLE 7 3.29 (320) 0.258 (330) 23 (307)
Parker, Smush DET 7 3.29 (320) 0.240 (337) 23 (307)
Pavlovic, Aleksandar CLE 9 2.56 (333) 0.315 (294) 23 (307)
Rebraca, Zeljko LAC 8 2.75 (331) 0.386 (196) 22 (311)
Kasun, Mario ORL 6 3.50 (312) 0.677 (11) 21 (312)
Fizer, Marcus MIL 6 3.50 (312) 0.236 (338) 21 (312)
Mercer, Ron NJ 3 6.67 (214) 0.189 (364) 20 (314)
Weatherspoon, Clarence HOU 6 3.33 (317) 0.426 (147) 20 (314)
Moiso, Jerome TOR 6 3.33 (317) 0.364 (231) 20 (314)
McKie, Aaron PHI 7 2.86 (329) 0.227 (345) 20 (314)
Sura, Bob HOU 2 9.50 (164) 0.352 (250) 19 (318)
Kaman, Chris LAC 4 4.75 (274) 0.380 (208) 19 (318)
Evans, Maurice SAC 5 3.80 (305) 0.279 (314) 19 (318)
Gugliotta, Tom BOS 7 2.71 (332) 0.211 (358) 19 (318)
Krstic, Nenad NJ 9 2.11 (344) 0.328 (277) 19 (318)
Garcia, Alex NO 3 6.00 (232) 0.474 (99) 18 (323)
Outlaw, Travis POR 4 4.50 (282) 1.286 (1) 18 (323)
Rogers, Rodney NO 4 4.50 (282) 0.234 (340) 18 (323)
Walker, Samaki WAS 7 2.43 (335) 0.233 (341) 17 (326)
Massenburg, Tony SA 10 1.60 (350) 0.222 (350) 16 (327)
Smith, J.R. NO 11 1.45 (355) 0.160 (369) 16 (327)
Varejao, Anderson CLE 4 3.75 (307) 0.625 (22) 15 (329)
Snyder, Kirk UTA 11 1.36 (360) 0.224 (348) 15 (329)
Barrett, Andre HOU 4 3.50 (312) 0.378 (213) 14 (331)
Wilkins, Damien SEA 10 1.40 (358) 0.280 (313) 14 (331)
Bender, Jonathan IND 2 6.50 (219) 0.481 (89) 13 (333)
Humphrey, Ryan MEM 6 2.17 (343) 0.260 (329) 13 (333)
Perkins, Kendrick BOS 9 1.44 (356) 0.433 (141) 13 (333)
Reiner, Jared CHI 3 4.00 (298) 0.414 (161) 12 (336)
Kukoc, Toni MIL 4 3.00 (324) 0.226 (346) 12 (336)
Santiago, Daniel MIL 4 3.00 (324) 0.188 (365) 12 (336)
Tskitishvili, Nikoloz DEN 6 2.00 (345) 0.231 (343) 12 (336)
Wilks, Mike SA 9 1.33 (361) 0.353 (249) 12 (336)
Outlaw, Bo PHO 5 2.20 (340) 0.379 (211) 11 (341)
Coleman, Derrick DET 5 2.20 (340) 0.220 (353) 11 (341)
Wagner, Dajuan CLE 7 1.57 (352) 0.155 (372) 11 (341)
Rush, Kareem LAL 13 0.85 (370) 0.126 (374) 11 (341)
Araujo, Rafael TOR 7 1.43 (357) 0.192 (363) 10 (345)
White, Jahidi CHA 8 1.25 (364) 0.175 (368) 10 (345)
Bowen, Ryan HOU 12 0.83 (371) 0.123 (376) 10 (345)
Hunter, Brandon ORL 2 4.50 (282) 1.125 (2) 9 (348)
Vujacic, Sasha LAL 3 3.00 (324) 0.529 (57) 9 (348)
Slay, Tamar CHA 4 2.25 (338) 0.333 (265) 9 (348)
Vroman, Jackson PHO 4 2.25 (338) 0.333 (265) 9 (348)
Tabuse, Yuta PHO 2 4.00 (298) 0.615 (23) 8 (352)
West, Delonte BOS 2 4.00 (298) 0.333 (265) 8 (352)
Posey, James MEM 4 2.00 (345) 0.096 (379) 8 (352)
Humphries, Kris UTA 5 1.60 (350) 0.235 (339) 8 (352)
Milicic, Darko DET 6 1.33 (361) 0.296 (307) 8 (352)
Lenard, Voshon DEN 1 7.00 (202) 0.292 (308) 7 (357)
Bradley, Michael ORL 3 2.33 (337) 0.304 (301) 7 (357)
Lampe, Maciej PHO 5 1.40 (358) 0.159 (370) 7 (357)
Johnsen, Britton IND 3 2.00 (345) 0.158 (371) 6 (360)
Jackson, Luke CLE 4 1.50 (353) 0.375 (220) 6 (360)
Sow, Pape TOR 4 1.50 (353) 0.207 (360) 6 (360)
Telfair, Sebastian POR 5 1.20 (365) 0.273 (319) 6 (360)
Cleaves, Mateen SEA 7 0.86 (369) 0.500 (75) 6 (360)
Miller, Anthony ATL 2 2.50 (334) 0.556 (42) 5 (365)
Biedrins, Andris GS 3 1.67 (348) 0.417 (155) 5 (365)
Divac, Vlade LAL 3 1.67 (348) 0.278 (315) 5 (365)
Mbenga, D.J. DAL 6 0.83 (371) 0.179 (367) 5 (365)
Storey, Awvee NJ 7 0.71 (377) 0.333 (265) 5 (365)
Ramos, Peter John WAS 3 1.33 (361) 0.333 (265) 4 (370)
Chalmers, Lionel LAC 4 1.00 (366) 0.129 (373) 4 (370)
Wang, Zhizhi MIA 5 0.80 (373) 0.444 (128) 4 (370)
Edwards, John IND 5 0.80 (373) 0.114 (377) 4 (370)
Freije, Matt NO 5 0.80 (373) 0.080 (380) 4 (370)
Robinson, Bernard CHA 5 0.80 (373) 0.078 (381) 4 (370)
N'diaye, Mamadou LAC 3 1.00 (366) 0.333 (265) 3 (376)
Baker, Vin NY 6 0.50 (379) 0.071 (382) 3 (376)
Swift, Robert SEA 7 0.43 (382) 0.111 (378) 3 (376)
Daniels, Erik SAC 3 0.67 (378) 0.222 (350) 2 (379)
Norris, Moochie NY 7 0.29 (384) 0.044 (384) 2 (379)
Radojevic, Aleksandar UTA 1 1.00 (366) 0.500 (75) 1 (381)
Frahm, Richie POR 2 0.50 (379) 0.500 (75) 1 (381)
Brown, Kedrick PHI 2 0.50 (379) 0.125 (375) 1 (381)
Brewer, Jamison NY 3 0.33 (383) 0.034 (385) 1 (381)
Carter, Anthony MIN 8 0.12 (385) 0.062 (383) 1 (381)
Augmon, Stacey ORL 7 0.00 (386) 0.000 (386) 0 (386)
Carlisle, Geno POR 2 0.00 (386) 0.000 (386) 0 (386)
Goldwire, Anthony MIL 1 0.00 (386) 0.000 (386) 0 (386)
Murray, Ronald SEA 1 0.00 (386) 0.000 (386) 0 (386)
Pargo, Jannero CHI 2 0.00 (386) 0.000 (386) 0 (386)
Ollie, Kevin PHI 3 -0.33 (391) -0.048 (391) -1 (391)
Blake, Steve WAS 2 -0.50 (392) -0.167 (394) -1 (391)
Medvedenko, Slava LAL 2 -0.50 (392) -0.167 (394) -1 (391)
Sundov, Bruno NY 2 -0.50 (392) -0.250 (397) -1 (391)
Smith, Donta ATL 2 -0.50 (392) -0.333 (399) -1 (391)
Reed, Justin BOS 2 -0.50 (392) -0.500 (400) -1 (391)
Dickau, Dan DAL 4 -0.50 (392) -0.125 (393) -2 (397)
Kittles, Kerry LAC 1 -2.00 (400) -0.083 (392) -2 (397)
Martin, Kevin SAC 5 -0.80 (398) -0.211 (396) -4 (399)
Fowlkes, Tremaine IND 3 -1.33 (399) -0.286 (398) -4 (399)

violentkitten
12-01-2004, 09:26 AM
if a player has a negative efficiency rating does that mean they should be paying fans to watch their play?

spurster
12-01-2004, 12:19 PM
If Garnett keeps up these numbers, he'll be MVP again.

The Suns have 3 players in the top 15! Maybe Cuban should have paid Nash the money.

Rummpd
12-01-2004, 04:18 PM
You should be in my public health classes I teach - you are a statistical and epidemiologist's dream.

Again, impressive. How about some similar stats on the top two other teams out West soon?

MadDoc

timvp
12-01-2004, 04:47 PM
Very nice numbers. Good job, Spurster.


If Garnett keeps up these numbers, he'll be MVP again.

If the Spurs finish with a better record than the Wolves, Duncan will get more MVP votes.

Book it.



Although that doesn't mean someone like Shaq, Kobe or LeBron won't win it.

violentkitten
12-01-2004, 04:52 PM
uh oh rummpd is getting aroused

Spurminator
12-01-2004, 04:53 PM
Yeah... Garnett had the highest EFF rating in the league in 2003 too, but Duncan beat him because of the Spurs' success.

ducks
12-01-2004, 05:01 PM
if they give the mvp to lebron this year it is so wrong

do I think he will get one yes

in order to receive it you have to win your division
will cavs NO

violentkitten
12-01-2004, 05:04 PM
ducks what is wrong with lebron he is phenomenal

spurs_fan_in_exile
12-01-2004, 06:20 PM
Regardless of Garnett's numbers unless they get their game together and really start winning he's not going to get too many votes.

More importantly, Slava's got a negative! Where's Medvedenko on this board when you need him?

Iron Giant
12-01-2004, 06:42 PM
Rasho's numbers are better than Tony's right now? The end of the world is upon us! :lol

ShoogarBear
12-01-2004, 07:01 PM
The problem with this formula is that is says one block = one point = one rebound = one FG missed, etc.

This is just plain wrong. I think we can all agree that a guy who gets 10 rebounds a game is more valuable than a guy who gets 10 points a game. Similarly, all things being equal, a guy who gets 3 steals a game is probably more valuable than a guy who gets 3 assists a game (though on an absolute basis, 3 assists = 6 points, while 3 steals probably only equals about 2-3 points).

For these things to truly have meaning, they'd have to a) know what the actual "worth" of a blocked shot, a steal, a turnover, a missed shot, etc. was compared to a made basket, and b) normalize each player's stats to the league average and standard deviation.

Nikos
12-01-2004, 07:04 PM
The value of a possesion is roughly .44.

ducks
12-01-2004, 09:36 PM
ducks what is wrong with lebron he is phenomenal


dude to get mvp you have to win the divsion
james should have to to if kg ,duncan do !

sickdsm
12-01-2004, 09:38 PM
Wrong Shooga. 3 steals is only 2-3 points?

For these things to truly have meaning, they'd have to a) know what the actual "worth" of a blocked shot, a steal, a turnover, a missed shot, etc. was compared to a made basket, and b) normalize each player's stats to the league average and standard deviation.

I do know that not only does a steal lead to points because of an extra possesion but it also takes away possesions, taking away points. Its like an interception in the redzone, ran back for a touchdown. Technically the guy only scores 6 points but in reality its probably a 10-14 point swing.

Basketball is different than any other sport in awards. The MVP and Def player awards are built more on reputation than numbers it seems. Almost like a make up call. For anyone besides KG to win the MVP something has to happan. An injury, significantly below par numbers, etc... Its his to lose. Last year should have been KG's second trophy. The winds of change have shifted a while ago, TD is the second best player in the world.

ducks
12-01-2004, 09:41 PM
I do not think duncan is below kg
kg has a worse team and has to do more

I think they are both =

Rummpd
12-01-2004, 10:05 PM
Duncan's total measure is immeasurable except as the Philly announcer's were saying in his time in the league including playoffs win 72% team. They are checking as going back at least 20 years this is the highest documented winning % in history according to them for any sport for a player on a team over more than 5 years.

Kind of reminds me of Montana = the sum of Duncan is more than ever appreciated = just gets it done. Perhaps, someday the world the will recognize him what he is the best big of all time period.

ShoogarBear
12-01-2004, 10:16 PM
Wrong Shooga. 3 steals is only 2-3 points?

I do know that not only does a steal lead to points because of an extra possesion but it also takes away possesions, taking away points. Its like an interception in the redzone, ran back for a touchdown. Technically the guy only scores 6 points but in reality its probably a 10-14 point swing.


You have some data on that?

One thing I can absolutely guarantee, not every steal leads to points. Lots of times, steals lead to another steal back, or a turnover, or a missed shot which gives the ball back to the other team and negates the steal.

So 3 steals leading to 2-3 net points is probably not unreasonable. It certainly isn't going to be 6 points.

And I can't wait for the excuses from the Wuffies this year as to why the alleged "best player in the world" still hasn't won jack shit.

ducks
12-01-2004, 10:18 PM
using the playoffs DUNCAN IS>>>>then KG

KG has never got it done in the 4
spree and sam did last year

Drachen
12-02-2004, 02:44 AM
You have some data on that?

One thing I can absolutely guarantee, not every steal leads to points. Lots of times, steals lead to another steal back, or a turnover, or a missed shot which gives the ball back to the other team and negates the steal.

So 3 steals leading to 2-3 net points is probably not unreasonable. It certainly isn't going to be 6 points.

And I can't wait for the excuses from the Wuffies this year as to why the alleged "best player in the world" still hasn't won jack shit.

He is saying the touchdown is worth 6 pts. and even if 3 steals only leads to 3 points... that still takes away a possible 6 and a probable 3 points away from the other team, thus leading to his "Swing" theory. (in this case a 6 point swing)

ShoogarBear
12-02-2004, 03:54 AM
I know what he is saying. But there's no proof of it. Just because you get a steal deosn't mean you're taking away sure points from the other team. If the steal wasn't made the possession could have ended up in a missed shot or another form of turnover.

The notion that "2 points = 4 point turnaround" can only be applied in specific incidents, like Tayshuan's block of Reggie Miller's sure layup. To indiscriminately apply it to every play is a sign of listening to way too many TV commentators.