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NorCal510
06-08-2007, 08:22 PM
Just something for all the soldiers serving our country. God Bless you all!

We are thinking about you!!!!!

SrA Husker
06-08-2007, 08:57 PM
If you really cared, someone would give me Finals tickets :drunk

Though in the interest of full disclosure, I don't qualify as I'm an airman, not a soldier :lol

marini martini
06-08-2007, 09:43 PM
:toast A troop is a troop, an airman is a soldier! Thanks for keeping my country safe. I wish I had Finals tickets to give you. :toast

Sonia_TX
06-08-2007, 10:13 PM
My brother in law came back in November from being in Iraq for a year. Hopefully he won't have to go again.

They're all in my thoughts and prayers.

RashoFan
06-08-2007, 10:29 PM
Nice NorCal! Very Nice!

iminlakerland
06-08-2007, 11:03 PM
Sometimes i think in all the other crap the media shows we forget about the troops we have overseas.

May they be taken care of...my neighbors son was just shipped out yesterday, to serve his 3rd active tour of duty in Iraq :| may he be safe...

Flea
06-08-2007, 11:07 PM
Always in our thoughts and prayers!

NorCal510
06-08-2007, 11:20 PM
Nice NorCal! Very Nice!
thanks :blah

i am a strong supporter for our troops

Bob Lanier
06-08-2007, 11:45 PM
Wear boxer-briefs.

RashoFan
06-08-2007, 11:55 PM
A friend(whom I am dating)just told me he will be going to Iraq again (his 3rd) as soon as the end of this month....I hope he does not. If he goes...I hope he comes back in one piece. Say a prayer for all the members of the Armed Forces that are away, will be going away and the ones that are coming home.

RashoFan
06-09-2007, 01:06 PM
:pctoss
The guy I am dating got official word this morning....he leaves on the 25th of this month for pre-deployment training...he is going back to Iraq for his 3rd tour.
:pctoss
I was hoping he didn't have to go....
Keep him and all the other Armed Forces in your prayers please.

Silver21_Black20
06-09-2007, 02:13 PM
A friend of mine was deployed to Iraq last month. He and all the others will be in my thoughts and prayers.

BacktoBasics
06-09-2007, 02:34 PM
I want to know right now who logged into Norcals account and made this post.....so I can shake their hand.

NorCal510
06-09-2007, 02:39 PM
I want to know right now who logged into Norcals account and made this post.....so I can shake their hand.
:p:

i want to join the marines, but i want to go to college and party

BacktoBasics
06-09-2007, 03:12 PM
:p:

i want to join the marines, but i want to go to college and partyI'm sure I'll get blasted for this but if I were you I'd go to college.

NorCal510
06-09-2007, 03:26 PM
I'm sure I'll get blasted for this but if I were you I'd go to college.
I don't need advice but thanks

If I wasn't smart and couldn't get into college, I'd probably join the army.

Since I have good grades, I'm going to college.

ALVAREZ6
06-09-2007, 04:57 PM
If I wasn't smart and couldn't get into college, I'd probably join the army.

Since I have good grades, I'm going to college.Great reasoning...

NorCal510
06-09-2007, 06:16 PM
Great reasoning...
thanks bro :tu

SAtoDallas
06-13-2007, 12:02 PM
I don't need advice but thanks

If I wasn't smart and couldn't get into college, I'd probably join the army.

Since I have good grades, I'm going to college.
OK John Kerry. I know you're only 15 but that was a retard statement. I was in the Marines '91-'95, there are plenty of intelligent people in the military many of whom attendend college but decided to serve their country rather than enter the corporate world. Think before you speak.

Summers
06-13-2007, 12:33 PM
I don't need advice but thanks

If I wasn't smart and couldn't get into college, I'd probably join the army.

Since I have good grades, I'm going to college.

This was a great thread, but this was an ignorant and arrogant statement.

Nbadan
06-13-2007, 02:48 PM
Let's not kid ourselves there are millions of NorCal's out there. A vast majority of our kids, but there are also kids who feel that serving their country is an honor, an obligation. These are the kids we are taking advantage in Iraq by sending them for 2nd and 3rd tours.

SAtoDallas
06-13-2007, 03:34 PM
Let's not kid ourselves there are millions of NorCal's out there. A vast majority of our kids, but there are also kids who feel that serving their country is an honor, an obligation. These are the kids we are taking advantage in Iraq by sending them for 2nd and 3rd tours.
Shut up loser what have you done, besides post on the internet from you mom's basement.

BacktoBasics
06-13-2007, 03:37 PM
I have to agree with Norcal as much as it pains me to say it. No reason to waste a perfectly good opportunity for school unless you just have some kind of undying need to serve your country.

medstudent
06-13-2007, 03:43 PM
I would serve... if our Commander in Chief could lead.

SAtoDallas
06-13-2007, 03:45 PM
I have to agree with Norcal as much as it pains me to say it. No reason to waste a perfectly good opportunity for school unless you just have some kind of undying need to serve your country.
The oppotunity to go to college will always be there, the chance to serve your country will not. Joining the military doesn't mean an automatic Iraq/Afghanistan tour there are plenty of MOS's which allow you to work regular 40 hour weeks and go to college part time paid for by the taxpayers. It just depends on what your goals in life are, college isn't for everybody just like the military isn't for everybody.

AFBlue
06-13-2007, 03:46 PM
I have to agree with Norcal as much as it pains me to say it. No reason to waste a perfectly good opportunity for school unless you just have some kind of undying need to serve your country.

Actually you can do both....

Go to a college with an ROTC program, qualify for a scholarship (4yr, $9K/yr or 3yr, $15K/yr), get the majority of your college paid for, take a regular course load with an additional 3hrs a week in ROTC, go to basic one summer, and then when you graduate you only owe the military a four-year service commitment. And you come in as an officer.

AFBlue
06-13-2007, 03:49 PM
:toast A troop is a troop, an airman is a soldier! Thanks for keeping my country safe. I wish I had Finals tickets to give you. :toast

I guess the Airmen were Soldiers once upon a time...

But yeah a troop is a troop...and there are plenty of Soldiers, Seamen, Airmen, and Marines that deserve our support...

SAtoDallas
06-13-2007, 03:53 PM
I would serve... if our Commander in Chief could lead.
So when he is out I take it your in?

medstudent
06-13-2007, 03:57 PM
yep

AFBlue
06-13-2007, 04:06 PM
yep

Here's the flaw I see in your argument...

Unless you become a combat medic, you're likely to never be in harms way or be directly affected by the policy of the Commander-in-Chief. As a matter of fact, I would think that someone who disagrees with the CINCs foreign policy would be eager to aide the ailing troops that are "victims" of a so-called "needless war".

No, somehow I doubt you will be joining the Air Force/Army/Navy/Marines in 2008....seems to me that if you really wanted to join and support the troops, you'd have done so regardless of the political situation.

RashoFan
06-13-2007, 11:25 PM
I would serve... if our Commander in Chief could lead.
I did serve and our President at the time was worse than the current President. Slick Willy was my Commander In Chief but that smuck was NOT my President....He didn't have the balls to take care of Bin Laden back in the day because he was too busy using his balls banging just about anything in a skirt. Because of Bin Laden....Fellow sailors (USS Cole and The Pentagon) and Brother Firefighters(NYFD) are dead. Thanks Bill Clinton :flipoff


Wow...sorry for the rant... :soapbox:
Support our Troops!!!!

ploto
06-13-2007, 11:35 PM
Let us show our support for these young men and women by bringing them home.

mookie2001
06-14-2007, 08:32 AM
but real support is SAYING you support them, especially in tahoe ribbons

SAtoDallas
06-14-2007, 09:34 AM
Let us show our support for these young men and women by bringing them home.
You understand they are in the military, and part of that job isn't hanging out at home training but acually fighting right?

Bear Grylls
06-23-2007, 03:32 AM
My Bro's 2nd tour of Iraq in Ramadi

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Just the daily burning of feces

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Wall getting planted with explosive

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Wall blowing up

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Hole in the wall

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A little dust storm

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DannyT
06-23-2007, 10:00 AM
Just the daily burning of feces

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1341/andrewiniraq004qt5.png

theres nothing like the smell of burning shit....the smell never leaves your clothes....what i would give to burn some shit.....

RashoFan
09-08-2007, 06:27 PM
Bump...
My guy was sent over to Iraq sometime yesterday. Please keep Tom and the rest of his unit in your prayers. I know that they will be in a really "bad" area, but I don't know where. I had someone who was priveledged to sensitive info and he told me to tell him to keep his head down... the area can get real bad.
I am trying hard not to freak out and keep it together, if y'all could say a little prayer for my sanity...I would appreciate it.
Support our troops!

Sonia_TX
09-08-2007, 08:09 PM
We're here for you, Rashofan. They're always in our thoughts and prayers.

My friend has been there since last year and hopefully he'll be back at the end of October. It would be nice for him to be home before the Holidays...

duncan228
09-08-2007, 09:28 PM
Consider it done RashoFan.

We lived next to Fort Lewis in Washington for several years and the men and women that make up our armed forces are to be respected. My kids went to school with their kids, it was so hard watching families apart when a soldier was deployed.

We'll keep Tom (and you) in our prayers, along with all our troops that are so far from home for so long.

Wild Cobra
09-08-2007, 10:59 PM
OK John Kerry. I know you're only 15 but that was a retard statement. I was in the Marines '91-'95, there are plenty of intelligent people in the military many of whom attendend college but decided to serve their country rather than enter the corporate world. Think before you speak.
No kidding. Where do people get off at thinking the military is for those with low intelligence. The most recent figures I heard has the military rejecting 70% of it's applicants, and that’s after lowering the standards. Does college reject that many?

I was in the Army for 11 years. It pisses me off when people elude to negative characteristics of the military.

May those who have family or friends in harms way take comfort in that we are making a difference. I’ll bet in most cases, those you know are proud of the impact they have with world events today. May God bless them.

Wild Cobra
09-08-2007, 11:05 PM
Let us show our support for these young men and women by bringing them home.
Yep, support the few soldiers who are pussies and want to come running home to mommy.

Do you realize how insulting your statement is to most of us veterans?

We bring the soldiers home when their job is finished. Bringing them home before that belittles everything they worked for.

T Park
09-09-2007, 01:32 AM
We bring the soldiers home when their job is finished. Bringing them home before that belittles everything they worked for


amen

my buddies Rob and Brian constantly tell me, leaving now would piss off a huge majority of the Troops.

T Park
09-09-2007, 01:34 AM
Do you realize how insulting your statement is to most of us veterans?

They don't care.

They just want life "back to normal"

Even though we should show the planes flying into the buildins and show em collapsing everyday to remind people of why they are doing what they do.

Mister Sinister
09-09-2007, 01:49 AM
I support the troops. I don't support the reason they're being deployed, though.

Wild Cobra
09-09-2007, 02:48 AM
I support the troops. I don't support the reason they're being deployed, though.
Then in reality, you do not support the troops. Your statement is affirming you do not believe in their job. That is not support, but a half-ass smear to those who believe in their jobs.

ChumpDumper
09-09-2007, 03:33 AM
Our armed forces do what they are ordered to do. I have the utmost respect for those who give up control of their lives to follow the orders of others. That doesn't mean the people giving out the orders know what the hell they are doing.

God help them all.

Wild Cobra
09-09-2007, 06:07 AM
I posted these links in the political forum. A blunt reminder of why we are there:

Brigitte Gabriel speaks at a Heritage Foundation event (http://multimedia.heritage.org/content/wm/Lehrman-092706a.wvx)

This above link didn't work with all my tests. If this doesn't work for you, then try here at You Tube in seven parts:

Brigitte Gabriel Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8fa9yKQeTY)

Brigitte Gabriel Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0gBTEwATwU)

Brigitte Gabriel Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sL54rHPwqA)

Brigitte Gabriel Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHYyu4vsZ6Y)

Brigitte Gabriel Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgqXYUs3h7Q)

Brigitte Gabriel Part 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udib2U0_mPg)

Brigitte Gabriel Part 7 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUmayTNRLg0)

Other material with Brigitte Gabriel:

Brigitte Gabriel talks about the Palestinians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn1gRIKoBJ0)

Brigitte Gabriel Discusses Lebanon and Israel on CNN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIy2L5uI9P8)

Wild Cobra
09-09-2007, 06:31 AM
amen

my buddies Rob and Brian constantly tell me, leaving now would piss off a huge majority of the Troops.
There is a DVD out called "Patriot Act" which is called "a home movie" and done by Jeffrey Ross. He was on a USO tour with Drew Kerry and others, and took 80something hours of video, making a 77 minute movie out of it. There's some funny stuff in the special features of the DVD as well. I'm glad I added this to my collection.

This documentary is a look at the troops in a different light than what any pundit or media shows. It's worth finding this rare DVD and renting or buying it.

IMDB link:

Patriot Act (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475359/)

Scans of the front and back cover:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/patriotactfrontcover.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/patriotactbackcover.jpg

Shelly
09-09-2007, 09:29 AM
Here's to a safe tour for your honey, B!

Mister Sinister
09-09-2007, 10:42 AM
Then in reality, you do not support the troops. Your statement is affirming you do not believe in their job. That is not support, but a half-ass smear to those who believe in their jobs.
I'm generally a pacifist. Excuse me for having a moral issue with the constant, vicious cycle of people killing each other...so wanting them to come home safely and in one piece, this is a half-ass smear to them?

Jekka
09-09-2007, 10:46 AM
Then in reality, you do not support the troops. Your statement is affirming you do not believe in their job. That is not support, but a half-ass smear to those who believe in their jobs.
Just because some of us don't believe in the reason for deployment does NOT mean that we do not believe in their job - I don't know anyone who would say, "You know, I don't think we need a military, I really think we'd be better off unprotected." It's not about the job, it's about the task assigned. There is a big difference.


Anyways, back to the reason this thread was bumped - you and Tom have all my best wishes, Rashofan :)

RashoFan
09-09-2007, 02:08 PM
Here is an update...They are "Boots in Country" and he got there safely. Hopefully he will be coming home safely in 365 days from now! Thanks for the prayers and wishes everyone!

angel_luv
09-09-2007, 02:45 PM
Bump...
My guy was sent over to Iraq sometime yesterday. Please keep Tom and the rest of his unit in your prayers. I know that they will be in a really "bad" area, but I don't know where. I had someone who was priveledged to sensitive info and he told me to tell him to keep his head down... the area can get real bad.
I am trying hard not to freak out and keep it together, if y'all could say a little prayer for my sanity...I would appreciate it.
Support our troops!


I will be praying. :)

RashoFan
09-09-2007, 09:24 PM
We bring the soldiers home when their job is finished. Bringing them home before that belittles everything they worked for.
W.C.
Thanks for posting that comment! That actually help me put things back into perpective and is helping me to deal with Tom being over there.

RashoFan
09-09-2007, 09:27 PM
I made a countdown and have the current time in Iraq on my desk top.

Wild Cobra
09-10-2007, 11:36 PM
W.C.
Thanks for posting that comment! That actually help me put things back into perpective and is helping me to deal with Tom being over there.
You're welcome. I just cannot understand the sentamites of some people here. How can they say the support the troops when they downplay the job they are doing? So many positive things are happening in Iraq that go unreported. The soldiers participating in much of the volenteer work have gained so much as individuals.


For those who haven't a clue. Unless you participate in like many of the soldiers do in the Iraqi communities, you simply cannot begin to understand the personal growth it give them. The accomplishments they make happen will be positive forces in their lives, and everyone they touch.

MannyIsGod
09-11-2007, 09:48 AM
You're welcome. I just cannot understand the sentamites of some people here. How can they say the support the troops when they downplay the job they are doing? So many positive things are happening in Iraq that go unreported. The soldiers participating in much of the volenteer work have gained so much as individuals.


For those who haven't a clue. Unless you participate in like many of the soldiers do in the Iraqi communities, you simply cannot begin to understand the personal growth it give them. The accomplishments they make happen will be positive forces in their lives, and everyone they touch.Over the past year or so, I've backed off politics on this board quite a bit. It really just ends up being a festival of my head bashing against my desk because I have to deal with complete asshole idiots like yourself.

i'm so sick of dipshits who try to redfine support to fit their politcal agenda. I'm not sure if you knwo what a dictionary is, but if you do you might want to pick one up and look up the word support.

I may have no personal experience with the military community, but that means jack shit when it comes to what I support and what I do not support. I hope each and every one of our soldiers is safe. That doesn't mean I support starting a war on each block of our earth in order to make them have a "positive force in their live". You're so wrapped up in how this may have made a veteran or 2 feel that you can't see te big picture of people dying. How much personal growth do the people who come back maimed have? How much personal growth do the children who grow up without fathers have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who never make it back have? How much personal growth to the Iraqi's who died have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who come back with severe post traumatic stress disorder have?

WAR IS NOT ABOUT PERSONAL FUCKING GROWTH AND FOR YOU TO FUCKING LEGITIMIZIE IT BASED ON SUCH IS REALLY REALLY ANNOYING.

I support the troops of this nation and I hope each and everyone come back safe. I thank them for volunteering for a shit job for shit pay. I thank them for being willing to put their life on the line for the saftey of this nation. I feel extremely sorry for them that we put people in office who use them in an unfit manner. It may be difficult for you to understand how not supporting the decision to send them to war is far different from not hoping no harm comes to them or that they succeed in their everyday missions but don't act as though you're on some supposed moral highground based on political beliefs.

JoeChalupa
09-11-2007, 10:00 AM
Semper Fi!!

2Blonde
09-11-2007, 11:56 PM
Over the past year or so, I've backed off politics on this board quite a bit. It really just ends up being a festival of my head bashing against my desk because I have to deal with complete asshole idiots like yourself.

i'm so sick of dipshits who try to redfine support to fit their politcal agenda. I'm not sure if you knwo what a dictionary is, but if you do you might want to pick one up and look up the word support.

I may have no personal experience with the military community, but that means jack shit when it comes to what I support and what I do not support. I hope each and every one of our soldiers is safe. That doesn't mean I support starting a war on each block of our earth in order to make them have a "positive force in their live". You're so wrapped up in how this may have made a veteran or 2 feel that you can't see te big picture of people dying. How much personal growth do the people who come back maimed have? How much personal growth do the children who grow up without fathers have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who never make it back have? How much personal growth to the Iraqi's who died have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who come back with severe post traumatic stress disorder have?

WAR IS NOT ABOUT PERSONAL FUCKING GROWTH AND FOR YOU TO FUCKING LEGITIMIZIE IT BASED ON SUCH IS REALLY REALLY ANNOYING.

I support the troops of this nation and I hope each and everyone come back safe. I thank them for volunteering for a shit job for shit pay. I thank them for being willing to put their life on the line for the saftey of this nation. I feel extremely sorry for them that we put people in office who use them in an unfit manner. It may be difficult for you to understand how not supporting the decision to send them to war is far different from not hoping no harm comes to them or that they succeed in their everyday missions but don't act as though you're on some supposed moral highground based on political beliefs.

Good post , Manny!

Wild Cobra,
My husband spent 20 years in the Army & I spent almost half that time as an army wife. To say that I am not not supportive of our troops just because I disagree with the course that the President and GEN Petraeus continue to spout ad nauseum DOES NOT AT ALL mean that I don't support the troops in every way possible. Many of them are friends of my now retired husband & I. I pray for their safety every single day. I pray that they feel they are their for the right reasons even if I disagree with why they have actually been sent there. I hope for the sake of our nation they all get to come home very quickly and that these last days President Bush is in office fly by wiht lightening fast speed.
(These are jusy my humble opinions)

Holt's Cat
09-12-2007, 12:06 AM
I support our troops returning home ASAP. They are volunteers who signed up to defend you and me. I'd prefer them not to be halfway around the world dying to defeat a ghost.

Holt's Cat
09-12-2007, 12:13 AM
Seriously, how many people have actually had a family member who served and did not return home? My dad lost a brother in WWII and whenever his name comes up nowadays he still tears up. Yeah, War on Terror. Whatever. Sign up. What's stopping you?

Wild Cobra
09-12-2007, 05:31 AM
i'm so sick of dipshits who try to redfine support to fit their politcal agenda.

It is the left who started the B.S. political support slogans like "I support the troops, but not the war." Support is giving, not empathy. Not placing a 180 on a slogan.


I'm not sure if you knwo what a dictionary is, but if you do you might want to pick one up and look up the word support.

Go ahead. Look it up.


I may have no personal experience with the military community, but that means jack shit when it comes to what I support and what I do not support. I hope each and every one of our soldiers is safe. That doesn't mean I support starting a war on each block of our earth in order to make them have a "positive force in their live".

I am not saying you don't have good will towards the soldiers. Just that it is not support when you wish to cut short their mission.


You're so wrapped up in how this may have made a veteran or 2 feel that you can't see te big picture of people dying. How much personal growth do the people who come back maimed have? How much personal growth do the children who grow up without fathers have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who never make it back have? How much personal growth to the Iraqi's who died have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who come back with severe post traumatic stress disorder have?

You're damn right I care about how such statements make people feel. As a veteran, I want to bitch-slap everyone I hear saying things like "I support the troops, but not their mission"

Personal growth? Some have it more than others. Since you have no personal military experience, I don’t expect you’ll ever know.


WAR IS NOT ABOUT PERSONAL FUCKING GROWTH AND FOR YOU TO FUCKING LEGITIMIZIE IT BASED ON SUCH IS REALLY REALLY ANNOYING.

No shit. In a volunteer military, it's about fighting for the common good, and placing others above ones self. The growth comes from the giving. It makes a person better.


I support the troops of this nation and I hope each and everyone come back safe. I thank them for volunteering for a shit job for shit pay. I thank them for being willing to put their life on the line for the saftey of this nation.
Great. Thanks and goodwill are not support. The military is not as underpaid as people are lead to believe either.


I feel extremely sorry for them that we put people in office who use them in an unfit manner.

Pity is the last thing we want! We just want assholes to stop trying to impede our mission!


It may be difficult for you to understand how not supporting the decision to send them to war is far different from not hoping no harm comes to them or that they succeed in their everyday missions but don't act as though you're on some supposed moral highground based on political beliefs.

I do understand the difference. However, claiming you support them is the incorrect terminology when so many are proud of their mission. Telling them their mission is flawed is a slap in the face, not support. It nullifies any intended support you may have.

Wild Cobra
09-12-2007, 05:37 AM
Seriously, how many people have actually had a family member who served and did not return home? My dad lost a brother in WWII and whenever his name comes up nowadays he still tears up. Yeah, War on Terror. Whatever. Sign up. What's stopping you?
I have an uncle who died while serving in the Army. He was like my older brother, just four years older. They said training accident, but we had black ops going on in the middle east at the time.

What is the truth? I really don't know. But none of us in the family accepted that a champion swimmer drowned in combat training!

Then there was the closed casket thing too. Never made sense.