2007 NBA Free Agents List

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The championship was great but it's never too early to think about the offseason!
2007 NBA Free Agent List

Key: ETO = Early Termination Option, P = Player Option, T = Team Option


Atlanta Hawks

Restricted: Esteban Batista, Royal Ivey

Unrestricted: Stanislav Medvedenko

Limited Salary Protection: None
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Boston Celtics

Restricted: None

Unrestricted: Michael Olowokandi

Limited Salary Protection: Ryan Gomes (no salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter full), Leon Powe (no salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter $150,000 and will increase to $200,000 if not waived on or before 10/1/07), Allan Ray (no salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter full)
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Charlotte Bobcats

Restricted: Alan Anderson, Walter Herrmann (T), Ryan Hollins (T)

Unrestricted: Derek Anderson, Matt Carroll, Jeff McInnis, Jake Voskuhl (P), Gerald Wallace (P)

Limited Salary Protection: Brevin Knight ($1,500,000 salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter full)
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Chicago Bulls

Restricted: Martynas Andriuskevicius, Andre Barrett, Andres Nocioni, Mike Sweetney

Unrestricted: Malik Allen, P.J. Brown

Limited Salary Protection: None
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Cleveland Cavaliers

Restricted: Dwayne Jones, Sasha Pavlovic, Anderson Varejao

Unrestricted: Ira Newble (P), Scot Pollard

Limited Salary Protection: David Wesley ($250,000 salary protection)
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Dallas Mavericks

Restricted: None

Unrestricted: Austin Croshere, Devean George (P), Jerry Stackhouse, Kevin Willis

Limited Salary Protection: Jose Juan Barea (no salary protection if waived on or before 8/1/07, thereafter full), Pops Mensah-Bonsu (no salary protection if waived on or before 8/31/07, thereafter full)
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Denver Nuggets

Restricted: None

Unrestricted: Steve Blake, DerMarr Johnson, Eduardo Najera (ETO), Jamal Sampson

Limited Salary Protection: Anthony Carter (no salary protection if waived on or before 9/15/07, thereafter full), Von Wafer (no salary protection if waived on or before 9/1/07, thereafter full)
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Detroit Pistons

Restricted: Will Blalock (T), Amir Johnson

Unrestricted: Chauncey Billups (ETO), Dale Davis, Ronald Dupree (P), Antonio McDyess (P), Flip Murray (P), Chris Webber

Limited Salary Protection: None
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Golden State Warriors

Restricted: Kelenna Azubuike, Zarko Cabarkapa, Sarunas Jasikevicius (P), Mickael Pietrus, Josh Powell

Unrestricted: Matt Barnes

Limited Salary Protection: Monta Ellis ($100,000 salary protection if waived on or before 8/1/07, thereafter full)
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Houston Rockets

Restricted: Chuck Hayes

Unrestricted: Dikembe Mutombo, Jake Tsakalidis, Bonzi Wells (P)

Limited Salary Protection: John Lucas ($500,000 salary protection), Bob Sura ($1,000,000 salary protection)
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Indiana Pacers

Restricted: Maceo Baston (P), Rawle Marshall

Unrestricted: Keith McLeod

Limited Salary Protection: Darrell Armstrong (no salary protection), Orien Greene (no salary protection if waived on or before 7/1/07, thereafter full)
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Los Angeles Clippers

Restricted: James Singleton (T)

Unrestricted: Yaroslav Korolev, Jason Hart, Quinton Ross (T)

Limited Salary Protection: Will Conroy (no salary protection), Paul Davis ($200,000 salary protection if waived on or before 7/15/07, thereafter full), Daniel Ewing (no salary protection if waived on or before 7/1/07, thereafter full)
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Los Angeles Lakers

Restricted: None

Unrestricted: Aaron McKie, Chris Mihm, Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Shammond Williams

Limited Salary Protection: Ronny Turiaf (no salary protection if waived before opening day, thereafter full)
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Memphis Grizzlies

Restricted: Dahntay Jones, Tarence Kinsey (T; salary protection is none but will increase to $166,568 if not waived on or before opening day), Lawrence Roberts

Unrestricted: Chucky Atkins, Junior Harrington

Limited Salary Protection: Alexander Johnson (no salary protection if waived on or before 8/1/07, thereafter full)
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Miami Heat

Restricted: Earl Barron

Unrestricted: Michael Doleac (P), Eddie Jones, Jason Kapono, Gary Payton, James Posey

Limited Salary Protection: Alonzo Mourning (no salary protection if waived on or before 8/10/07, thereafter full), Chris Quinn (no salary protection if waived before 7/20/07, thereafter full)
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Milwaukee Bucks

Restricted: Charlie Bell, Ersan Ilyasova, Jared Reiner

Unrestricted: Earl Boykins (P), Ruben Patterson, Brian Skinner (T), Mo Williams

Limited Salary Protection: None
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Minnesota Timberwolves

Restricted: Bracey Wright

Unrestricted: None

Limited Salary Protection: Craig Smith (no salary protection if waived before 8/1/07, thereafter $100,000 and will increase to $350,000 if on opening day roster and to full on 12/1/07)
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New Jersey Nets

Restricted: None

Unrestricted: Vince Carter (ETO), Eddie House, Mikki Moore

Limited Salary Protection: Hassan Adams (no salary protection if waived on or before 7/15/07, thereafter full), Cliff Robinson ($500,000 salary protection if waived on or before 7/15/07, thereafter full)
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New Orleans Hornets

Restricted: Brandon Bass

Unrestricted: Devin Brown, Marc Jackson, Linton Johnson, Desmond Mason, Jannero Pargo (P)

Limited Salary Protection: None
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New York Knicks

Restricted: None

Unrestricted: Kelvin Cato, Malik Rose (ETO)

Limited Salary Protection: None
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Orlando Magic

Restricted: Travis Diener, Darko Milicic

Unrestricted: Keyon Dooling (P), Pat Garrity (ETO), Grant Hill, Bo Outlaw

Limited Salary Protection: James Augustine ($171,864 salary protection if waived on or before 7/30/07, thereafter full)
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Philadelphia 76ers

Restricted: Louis Amundson, Shavlik Randolph (P), Louis Williams (T)

Unrestricted: Alan Henderson, Joe Smith

Limited Salary Protection: Bobby Jones (no salary protection if waived on or before 7/1/07, thereafter $100,000 and will increase to $200,000 if not waived on or before 8/1/07 and to full on 10/2/07)
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Phoenix Suns

Restricted: Pat Burke

Unrestricted: Jumaine Jones, Sean Marks, Jalen Rose, Kurt Thomas (P)

Limited Salary Protection: None
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Portland Trail Blazers

Restricted: Travis Outlaw, Luke Schenscher

Unrestricted: Jamaal Magloire, Ime Udoka

Limited Salary Protection: None
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Sacramento Kings

Restricted: Ronnie Price, Justin Williams

Unrestricted: Mike Bibby (ETO), Vitaly Potapenko, Corliss Williamson

Limited Salary Protection: None
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San Antonio Spurs

Restricted: Matt Bonner, Fabricio Oberto (P)

Unrestricted: Melvin Ely, Michael Finley (P), Jacque Vaughn

Limited Salary Protection: Bruce Bowen ($2,000,000 salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter full), Robert Horry ($2,000,000 salary protection if waived before 7/1/07, thereafter full), James White (no salary protection if waived before 8/1/07, thereafter $100,000 and will increase to $200,000 if not waived before 10/1/07 and to $300,000 if on opening day roster)--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Seattle SuperSonics

Restricted: Andre Brown

Unrestricted: Danny Fortson, Rashard Lewis, Randy Livingston, Mike Wilks

Limited Salary Protection: None
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Toronto Raptors

Restricted: Uros Slokar, Pape Sow

Unrestricted: Darrick Martin, Morris Peterson

Limited Salary Protection: None
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Utah Jazz

Restricted: Dee Brown, C.J. Miles

Unrestricted: Rafael Araujo

Limited Salary Protection: None
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Washington Wizards

Restricted: Andray Blatche, Mike Hall, Jarvis Hayes, Donell Taylor

Unrestricted: Calvin Booth, Roger Mason, Michael Ruffin, DeShawn Stevenson (P)

Limited Salary Protection: None

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[ambchang]

Wish list:
Desmond Mason/Quitin Ross as Bowen understudy (way too expensive likely)
Araujo/Walton as passing big man.
Antonio McDyess as low post Horry.

[Vito Corleone]

Wow, this looks like a great year to not get into free agency and just work with the guys who are in our system. The only guy I would want off that list is Milik Rose and that is because he was one of my all time favorite Spurs.

[BadBoysAreBackIn08]

Wish list:
Desmond Mason/Quitin Ross as Bowen understudy (way too expensive likely)
Araujo/Walton as passing big man.
Antonio McDyess as low post Horry.
Sorry but Joe Dumars is resigning Dyess.

[Streakyshooter08]

I'd like the Spurs to land one of those players: Pietrus, Barnes, Nocioni or Gerald Wallace

via trade: Chris Duhon, Brevin Knight

It would be great if the Spurs could trade into a higher pick but I doubt they have the assets. I also think that Fin will be back.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I think it would help everyone if this thread was stickied.

[nkdlunch]

Hermann

[Mr. Body]

Sorry but Joe Dumars is resigning Dyess.

Not his choice.

[Zarko]

If devean george opts out of his contract... he would be a nice long SF that knows how to win championships off the bench. He is a hard worker and wouldn't cost too much. Plus it would weaken the mavs which is always nice.

[AFBlue]

Spurs don't have hardly any roster spots available. I'd prefer it if they drafted some young guys to compliment the older vets already on this roster and then spent their FA dollars in 08...

[Borosai]

Gerald Wallace. Imagine the defensive lineup of Parker, Bowen, Wallace, Duncan, whoever else. That would be amazing. And I didn't know he was an unrestricted free agent.

[PM5K]

I see a few guys I like:

Mike Wilks
Jason Hart
Malik Rose
Derek Anderson
Devin Brown
Sean Marks

Man if we could get those guys...

:spin

[PM5K]

Michael Jordan should kill himself if he lets Gerald Wallace get away...

[TxJudsonRocketTx]

Am I the only one who thinks Mo Pete would be a good addition? Obviously not as good as picking up Luke Walton and Pietrus but if he's around for cheap?

[BeerIsGood!]

Work the draft and plan for '08. Won't be many changes to the roster as set this offseason, but most probably won't bitch due to the outcome of 2007. Then again, when you go 16-4 in the PO and obliterate everyone and every style of ball in your path it many not be such a bad thing to keep things very similar.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs need to make the personnel changes to defeat Dallas they failed to do last year. Nothing too drastic, but they can't rest on their laurels.

[T Park]

McDeyss would defend Nowitzki perfectly.

I'd throw a significant portion at him.

Pietrus being restricted, maybe to get him it would take trading Barry.

But if I had my druthers I'd rather go after Nocioni and offer up barry, beno, and Scola

[Borosai]

Parker - ? - Udrih
Ginobili - Finley - Barry
Bowen - White - ?
Duncan - ? - Horry
Oberto - Elson - Butler

As of now, these are the players under contract for next year (I think).
PG - Maybe Vaughn re-signs for pennies, maybe he goes elsewhere. Will Beno be traded?
SG/Swing - Will Barry be shipped? Where will the other young swingman come from? Draft or FA?
PF - Will Bonner be re-signed and given more minutes?
C - Not great, but solid rotation. Each player is different, offering flexible matchups.

[WalterBenitez]

Varejão ... great we could become ... flopperlandia with him :lmao

Seriously ...

I'll go with Chapu Nocioni, Scola, Chris Webber (the next Mike Finley).

[Mr. Body]

I'll go with Chapu Nocioni, Scola, Chris Webber (the next Mike Finley).

Danger! Danger!

No former Fab Five guys. They're cursed. In fact, the curse is named after the guy bolded above.

[hater]

fuck webber

[BacktoBasics]

Really Matt Barnes is the only one that intrigues me

[Creation88]

we need a back up PG big time. i'd still like to welcome Scola to the group.

[florige]

Varejão ... great we could become ... flopperlandia with him :lmao

Seriously ...

I'll go with Chapu Nocioni, Scola, Chris Webber (the next Mike Finley).



Chris Webber is waay to lazy to be successful in our system. I say lets try and get Dyess here.

[Kori Ellis]

I think it would help everyone if this thread was stickied.

It probably will be. Just not the day after a Championship. There's more things to be stickied right now.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

True.

[BeerIsGood!]

Hopefully something can be had in exchange for Barry. I think he's just not a good fit on the court for the Spurs - they have enough shooters with Finley, Manu, Bowen, and now even Parker to an extent.

Losing Barry in exchange for some improved SF depth and another PG in exchange for Beno would be ideal.

[BeerIsGood!]

Spurs need to make the personnel changes to defeat Dallas they failed to do last year. Nothing too drastic, but they can't rest on their laurels.

True, but I'm interested to see what Dallas does in the offseason. There's talk around here of blowing up the team and making big changes due to the high ratio of chokers to guts on that team.

[Atl Spur]

Luke Walton would thrive in San Antonio's system! He can pass,shoot and did I mention his his bball IQ?

[T Park]

Barnes would be ok.

I just think Nocioni or Pietrus are the huge targets you gotta go after.

[Slinkyman]

With the NBA draft less then 2 weeks away it'll be interesting to see if the spurs can draft a player or 2 that will make the team next year, plus we don't know who's coming back yet... Oberto? Finley? Horry?

[Money316]

Wow, this looks like a great year to not get into free agency and just work with the guys who are in our system. The only guy I would want off that list is Milik Rose and that is because he was one of my all time favorite Spurs.
Vito remember don't let emotions get in the way of business. That's all it is ... business ... or at least until the .....ship.


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[G-Money]

Not his choice.


Mcdyess said he wants to play for the Pistons. Early in the year when he was brought in trade rumors he said if he would of been traded he would of retired.

[El_Mago]

San Antonio will make a move for a pg.

RC and Pop want Vaughn back.

I think Beno get's shipped along with the 28th and maybe the early 30 pick to move up to the late teens or early twenties.

With that said, the Spurs draft Sergio Rodriguez or Thadeus Young (long SF).

I do not believe the Spurs will make a huge splash with the MLE unless they can get the player(s) to sign similar deals like Elson and Butler (two year deals).

If so, I am on board with getting a PG (draft), nice hardworking wing (Udoka, Khryapa, etc) or even throwing the cash to Scola, so he can get his ass over here already.

[Leetonidas]

Matt Barnes, Grant Hill, Antonio McDyess, Mikael Pietrus, Walter Hermann, Andres Nocioni, Morris Peterson...

All good options.

[Leetonidas]

Pietrus said he wants to come here and play with Tony. Let's hope we can land him.

[El_Mago]

When and where did Pietrus say that?

I know Tony wanted Boris here before he was traded to Phoenix.

However, it makes perfect sense why Pietrus would say that...the French Connection.

[Switchman]

Nocioni.

[LavaLamp]

Spurs need to make the personnel changes to defeat Dallas they failed to do last year. Nothing too drastic, but they can't rest on their laurels.


Don't you think the 2007 Spurs could've defeated both the 2006 Mavs (or the 2007 Mavs had they met in the PO)?

[Axl Van Dam]

:reading Here are my choices 1. Gerald Wallace 2. Luke Walton 3. Morris Peterson 4. Devean George. :reading

[Jockularity!]

Luke Walton would thrive in San Antonio's system! He can pass,shoot and did I mention his his bball IQ?

I agree. Depth's really needed most at point guard, but if there was a way to get either Walton, Wallace or Barnes I'd love it.

[Leetonidas]

When and where did Pietrus say that?

I know Tony wanted Boris here before he was traded to Phoenix.

However, it makes perfect sense why Pietrus would say that...the French Connection.
When the search option is re-enabled, look it up. I know there was an article discussing it.

[greens]

I think Matt Barnes is pretty good. He shoots 3s nicely, and he passes the ball pretty good too. So I think he would be a good option. When I was watching Golden State beat Dallas, Matt Barnes was pretty impressive...

[K-State Spur]

The problem with Barnes is that - after the Mavs series - he will probably get a contract much greater than what he actually gives you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Mcdyess said he wants to play for the Pistons. Early in the year when he was brought in trade rumors he said if he would of been traded he would of retired.

They were talking about trading him to Toronto or some other team with no chance to contend. Bottomline is if he doesnt think that the Pistons have a chance to win then he is gone. I am sure that he will give Dumars a chance to do something but looking at you guys in the ECF I am sure he has his doubts.

Worry about reupping Billups and see what happens with Rasheed before you start making statements about McDyess coming back.

[Gros Membres!]

Wow, this looks like a great year to not get into free agency and just work with the guys who are in our system. The only guy I would want off that list is Milik Rose and that is because he was one of my all time favorite Spurs.
OMG...the guy sucks. He has no jumper, cannot matchup against the athleticism of the West coast front court guys (Amare, Oden, Durant, etc), and his age has decreased his ability to hustle. Leave him for someone else.

[intlspurshk]

Andray Blatche,matt barnes, Mo williams, pietrus

[Atl Spur]

Before we just throw out random players, lets remember this San Antonio! We not only display the the talent, we have the BRAINS to execute our game plan! I don't think everybody listed here is on our radar for that reason alone. Just my thoughts.

[ManuTastic]

Forget Wallace or anybody with half a name. Too expensive.
Luke Walton's interesting, though, since he clearly needs a structured environment to thrive--you can't just throw him the ball and stand back, which is what most people want when they go shopping, so he might not draw huge interest and thus remain reasonably priced.

How's Devin Brown's back?

[jesse]

pietrus for sure, i belive he was the one on dirk in the playoffs and shut him down, also with don nelson teaching him on how tho sotp the mavs i think we can use him!!!

[Zarko]

pietrus for sure, i belive he was the one on dirk in the playoffs and shut him down, also with don nelson teaching him on how tho sotp the mavs i think we can use him!!!
Jackson was the primary defender on Dirk. Pietrus did play some minutes on Irk though.

[K-State Spur]

Pietrus would make a lot of sense. Of course, he probably eats most, if not all, of the MLE and then the question is does GS match? They've already got a couple guys just like him, but do they have any reason to just let him walk either?

[Marcus Bryant]

James Posey. Fits just about everything the Spurs would want in a successor to Bowen and will cost less than Pietrus.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Forget Wallace or anybody with half a name. Too expensive.
Luke Walton's interesting, though, since he clearly needs a structured environment to thrive--you can't just throw him the ball and stand back, which is what most people want when they go shopping, so he might not draw huge interest and thus remain reasonably priced.

How's Devin Brown's back?

It's pretty ignorant to say 'too expensive.'

We've got the MLE to work with, and with teams being cap responsible these days, the most a lot have to play with is the MLE.

All things being equal would you go to a team for the MLE that is going to be in the lotto next year, or go to a team that just won its third title in five years?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

pietrus for sure, i belive he was the one on dirk in the playoffs and shut him down, also with don nelson teaching him on how tho sotp the mavs i think we can use him!!!

1. You're confusing him for Stephen Jackson, who did the bulk of the work on Dirk.

2. There's no big secret to beating the Mavs - have more athleticism than them.

[exstatic]

I have never, and will never understand the Jones of unknowledgable Spurs fans for Gerald Wallace. He's dumb as a rock and can't shoot a jumper to save his mother's life. He would be just a TERRIBLE fit on this team. That Barkley quote about Stromile Swift applies here as well: a deer can run and jump, but you wouldn't put it on a basketball court.

[Ginofan]

Barnes had a decent season and a great 1st round. He's about to be very very overpaid. Go after Nocioni. Go after him Hard.

-TheTruth-

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I have never, and will never understand the Jones of unknowledgable Spurs fans for Gerald Wallace. He's dumb as a rock and can't shoot a jumper to save his mother's life. He would be just a TERRIBLE fit on this team. That Barkley quote about Stromile Swift applies here as well: a deer can run and jump, but you wouldn't put it on a basketball court.

I think a lot of average Spurs fans and their interest in guys like Wallace comes from fantasy hoops.

Simply, they don't watch games outside of the ones the Spurs play, but they play fantasy hoops with their friends, so they get exposure to guys like Wallace through that.

And he's a fantasy stats monster, but he can't hit a jumper to save his life, which would be a horrible fit in our offense. Plus he's hurt about 20 games a year.

[gaKNOW!blee]

Derek Anderson :clap , Bring him back.

[Mr. Body]

Derek Anderson :clap , Bring him back.

Good lord.

:pctoss

[Leetonidas]

Derek Anderson :clap , Bring him back.
WTF hell no! :pctoss

[exstatic]

The problem with Barnes is that - after the Mavs series - he will probably get a contract much greater than what he actually gives you.
Yeah, he just fired his long time agent and went with a "money guy". He knows this is his chance to cash in on a great series.

[td4mvp3]

James Posey. Fits just about everything the Spurs would want in a successor to Bowen and will cost less than Pietrus.
i like the posey idea, he was the guy who nailed heinrich a couple years ago, right? can hit a three, too, if i recall.

[td4mvp3]

and if finley leaves, how about eddie jones to fill his role? they seemed pretty comparable or am i smoking crack?

[td4mvp3]

and steve blake as backup?

[Slinkyman]

i like the posey idea, he was the guy who nailed heinrich a couple years ago, right? can hit a three, too, if i recall.

Posey also laid out deng this year so we know he already dirty, we won't have to train him. Can you imagine bruce, horry, and posey on the floor at the same time? The other team would know somebody's about to get kicked in the achilles tendon!

[spurscenter]

Spurs should eye. In no particular order and in no way checking to see if they can be affordable. but these are the good Spurs FA picks, IMO


Michael Olowokandi
Walter Herrmann
Matt Carroll
Jeff McInnis
Gerald Wallace
Brevin Knight
Andres Nocioni
Sasha Pavlovic
Anderson Varejao
Jerry Stackhouse
Steve Blake
Chris Webber
Mickael Pietrus
Matt Barnes
Bonzi Wells
Luke Walton
Eddie Jones
Jason Kapono
Gary Payton
Vince Carter
Desmond Mason
Malik Rose
Darko Milicic
Grant Hill
Jalen Rose
Jamaal Magloire
Mike Bibby
Morris Peterson

[Slinkyman]

Spurs should eye. In no particular order


Michael Olowokandi
Walter Herrmann
Matt Carroll
Jeff McInnis
Gerald Wallace
Brevin Knight
Andres Nocioni
Sasha Pavlovic
Anderson Varejao
Jerry Stackhouse
Steve Blake
Chris Webber
Mickael Pietrus
Matt Barnes
Bonzi Wells
Luke Walton
Eddie Jones
Jason Kapono
Gary Payton
Vince Carter
Desmond Mason
Malik Rose
Darko Milicic
Grant Hill
Jalen Rose
Jamaal Magloire
Mike Bibby
Morris Peterson

I stopped reading here: Michael Olowokandi

[spurscenter]

I stopped reading here: Michael Olowokandi

hahaha

thats why i put him atop. hahaha

with the no paricular order, which of course there was. lol

[ChumpDumper]

Spurs should eye two extra full rosters?

[td4mvp3]

I stopped reading here: Michael Olowokandi
amen. and jalen rose is also out.

[Slinkyman]

Andres Nocioni
Jerry Stackhouse
Mickael Pietrus
Matt Barnes
Grant Hill
Jamaal Magloire
Morris Peterson
James Posey

much better list

[td4mvp3]

i wonder if the kobe nonsense gives the spurs a better shot at luke walton.

[T Park]

Too bad Walton couldn't be gotten.

hed be perfect as the 3/4 tweener

[td4mvp3]

Too bad Walton couldn't be gotten.

hed be perfect as the 3/4 tweener
why can't he be gotten? i'd think there's less incentive for him to stay what with kobe acting like an idiot. and bright lights of hollywood are difficult to leave but being a scrub on a crappy team can't be too great, either.

[Nathan Explosion]

The perfect 3-4 tweener in free agency is Rashard Lewis, although he's going to command a big contract.

6'10" with long arms, can rebound and shoot. Handle the rock. He's like a better scoring version of Prince. Having said that, I don't think he'd be a good fit in the Spurs system. I've watched a lot of his games and the fact that I still haven't a clue about how he'd fit in the Spurs system is very telling to me, and probably a warning flag.

I like James Posey, and Bonzi Wells, if he weren't so crazy.

[Mr. Body]

Rashard Lewis is perfect if you play that kind of girls' basketball where half the team stays on one side of the court and only plays offense.

[Next Superstar]

Wait I thought spurs fans hated barnes after he body checked every spur's fans darling james white. I would like the warriors to keep barnes but you guys can have pietrus. I really like him as a person but he just hasn't been able to get it together, he still makes too many stupid mistakes. Its probably best he goes elsewhere, maybe popovich could finally get through to him.

[mountainballer]

Wait I thought spurs fans hated barnes after he body checked every spur's fans darling james white.

didn't you know that Spurs fans love players, who know how to body check from time to time?:lol

I like the idea of aquiring Barnes more than the Pietrus option.
btw.(maybe already mentioned) Spurs once offered Barnes a contract, (I guess it was 2004, when he signed with the Kings) so they at least were somehow interested in him. of course today he won't sign for the minimum anymore.

I like the idea of aquiring Desmond Mason. IMO he's currently far under the radar, so he might sign for a nice price. (talking about MLE). maybe there is a realistic option for a S&T including Barry (who the Hornets once wanted) and some more pieces. this would save the MLE for other moves. (Scola?)
btw. Mason is constantly labeled as undersized for the SF spot, listed at 6-5.
just read the measurements for the 200 draft. he was 6-6 without shoes and 6-7 1/4 in shoes, with a grat wingspan of 7". still not amazing numbers for a SF, but far from totally undersized.
Mason would provide defense, rebounding and athleticismn, at 29 he is almost young for a Spurs FA (Bowen was 30 when they signed him) and he is a more than decent offensive player. he is reported to be a great character guy and hard worker, so he should be Spurs material.
I also would love to get either Wallace or Nocioni, but I think Mason is a more realistic option and still a great upgrade of the roster.

[Findog]

If devean george opts out of his contract... he would be a nice long SF that knows how to win championships off the bench. He is a hard worker and wouldn't cost too much. Plus it would weaken the mavs which is always nice.

You can have him. He gave us nothing against Golden State.

[Findog]

I like the idea of aquiring Desmond Mason. IMO he's currently far under the radar, so he might sign for a nice price.

Supposedly the scuttlebutt is he wants to come home (Waxahatchie native)and play for us. I hope that's the case, I don't want to see him on the Spurs.

[AFBlue]

The only reason Mason would be a Spur is if Finley opted out and the Spurs needed a veteran to replace him. He may have one of the ugliest shots in basketball, but he's not terrible. Still, it's a longshot that he's a Spur in 07-08.

[Zarko]

You can have him. He gave us nothing against Golden State.

Horry gave us absolutely nothing in 2004 the first year he was on the Spurs in the playoffs. Sometimes it takes more time to adjust.

For the money, Devean would not be a terrible pick up. Some of the other ideas here would require us getting players at a discount, even at the full MLE. That is not very likely.

[Mr. Body]

Not a fan here, either, of Desmond Mason. Lousy jumpshooter, which is practically a must in our offensive schemes - we'd be 4 on 5 most of the time. Otherwise he doesn't offer anything we can't find in other players on the roster. I'd rather develop James White and/or develop rookie wings, if it came down to it.

NO thanks to Mason.

[AFBlue]

Not a fan here, either, of Desmond Mason. Lousy jumpshooter, which is practically a must in our offensive schemes - we'd be 4 on 5 most of the time. Otherwise he doesn't offer anything we can't find in other players on the roster. I'd rather develop James White and/or develop rookie wings, if it came down to it.

NO thanks to Mason.

I am all about the Spurs developing their young guys in White, or whoever they may draft. I also think that the Spurs will be wary of signing players to more than one-year deals because of the potential to have significant cap room in 2008.

Having said that, I'm not sure if it's the Spurs' style to pass on adding complimentary veterans. A guy like Mason just seems to fit that mold.

[Darkwaters]

Not a fan here, either, of Desmond Mason. Lousy jumpshooter, which is practically a must in our offensive schemes - we'd be 4 on 5 most of the time. Otherwise he doesn't offer anything we can't find in other players on the roster. I'd rather develop James White and/or develop rookie wings, if it came down to it.

NO thanks to Mason.

Agreed. But to his credit, Mason is about the hardest worker on the Hornets team (with the exception of Linton Johnson) and he is the epitome of a character guy. Just a complete pleasure to be around.

[TMSKILZ]

Is Miki Moore (C) from the NJ Nets a FA? I think he would be a great fit for the Spurs.

[Darkwaters]

Is Miki Moore (C) from the NJ Nets a FA? I think he would be a great fit for the Spurs.

Yes.

Hes also over 30 like the majority of our team. I'd prefer to get at least a little younger.

[Mr. Body]

Mikki was a Kidd beneficiary and not as good as he looked. He'll be getting too much money this summer, anyway.

He was a Spur at one point, btw.

[AFBlue]

Mikki Moore is a skinnier version of Francisco Elson...though I didn't think that was possible. He has a decent 15-footer and not much else. I hope Mikki, and Elson for that matter, are not in the plans for the Spurs next year.

[Darkwaters]

He was a Spur at one point, btw.

Hmm, I never knew that.

[Mr. Body]

I thought he was. Maybe not, but maybe just training camp.

[Darkwaters]

I thought he was. Maybe not, but maybe just training camp.

If thats the case then he was never effectively a Spur. It's like when JR Smith got traded to the Bulls...they moved him to Denver within a couple days and never played a game with him.

Or better yet, when the Hornets drafted Kobe Bryant and moved him the Lakers. Nobody ever talks about Kobe's time with the Hornets except to shove it in their face. Of course Kobe's exodus from Charlotte was much like his current cohersion to leave LA. Hes been a bitch about both.

But I digress...

[Mr. Body]

I could have sworn he was on the roster for a little while.

[AFBlue]

I could've sworn it doesn't matter because the Spurs already have an ungodly skinny center with no post game. And again, I'd prefer neither...

I'm officially starting the "More PT for Jackie B" Campaign.

[Darkwaters]

I'm officially starting the "More PT for Jackie B" Campaign.

Count me in. Before we have any talk of trading this guy I want to see what he can do with more PT. He looked good in his minutes last season. Lets see what the kid can do.

[Supergirl]

Man, I hope Oberto and Fin come back.

I think Vaughn and Bonner are worth re-signing, too.

Ely can walk, or re-sign for the minimum.
Cleveland wants Udrih, I say we trade him for Varaejao or Newble, who used to be a Spur and who is an excellent defender.

[AFBlue]

Man, I hope Oberto and Fin come back.

I think Vaughn and Bonner are worth re-signing, too.

Ely can walk, or re-sign for the minimum.
Cleveland wants Udrih, I say we trade him for Varaejao or Newble, who used to be a Spur and who is an excellent defender.

I doubt they do a deal for Varajao unless it's Beno plus picks, and IIRC Newble's contract is bad....long and more than he's worth.

On Beno, I think the Spurs should wait to see how the draft and FA flesh out before deciding what to do with him. If the Spurs nab a guy like Gabe Pruitt and re-sign Jacque...Beno will be gone for a couple second rounders.

[Mr. Body]

Newble is toast.

Varejao will get tons more interest elsewhere and Cleveland will seek to retain him.

By far the better choice is to trade Beno for zippo in terms of players and try to wrest a future second away.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Count me in. Before we have any talk of trading this guy I want to see what he can do with more PT. He looked good in his minutes last season. Lets see what the kid can do.
Don't forget James White! :)

[George Gervin's Afro]

Joe Smith and Matt Barnes could help. My number 1 on the wish list is Luke Walton and 1a would Antonio McDyess

[AFBlue]

Don't forget James White! :)

As good as James White could be with regular PT, he's being blocked pretty heavily by Barry and Fin....those two are far less likely to lose their rotation spots than a guy like Elson, IMO. I'm certainly for it, but it's just not realistic...

Caveat: Both could be gone before long if Fin opts out and/or Barry is traded, which would theoretically create the opportunity for White to step in....we'll see.

[Mitch Cumsteen]

I second the James Posey nomination. A long defender who can hit the three and doesn't need the ball in his hands. He'd be a perfect Spur. He also is coming off a huge contract in Memphis/Miami so he may be affordable. The downside is that he's already got a ring, so he might not be willing to take less money for a shot at a championship. He also had some attitude problems somewhere along the line, IIRC.

Still, I'm guessing that Finley, Horry, Vaughn and Oberto all come back, and probably Bonner too. Between the draft picks and all the guys stashed in Europe, there isn't much room on the roster.

[GSH]

The Bulls have 2 players that would be good additions - Nocioni is obvious, but P.J. Brown would be a solid backup big man. There will be a lot of interest in Nocioni, and he will likely be too expensive.

Brown is one of those timeless guys, sort of like Kevin Willis. He could still contribute some good minutes, and he hits the boards well, which the Spurs could use. He is also an intelligent guy, and well-liked in the locker room. He would add to the chemistry the Spurs have, rather than distracting from it. I think he will be a lot more affordable than he was a few years ago, when we tried to get him.

[HOEmada]

Keith Van Horn anyone??

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Never.

[Manu Pacquiao]

Unrestricted Jamal Magloire at reserve PF or C. I always liked that guys game. Rebounds well, can block a few shots, and he has that quiet kind of meanness and nasty attitude towards the opponents.

20 mins a game from him would be nice. Horry and Bonner for the high post PF and Jamal for inside playing PF.

Lets go get him.

[AFBlue]

Unrestricted Jamal Magloire at reserve PF or C. I always liked that guys game. Rebounds well, can block a few shots, and he has that quiet kind of meanness and nasty attitude towards the opponents.

20 mins a game from him would be nice. Horry and Bonner for the high post PF and Jamal for inside playing PF.

Lets go get him.

I'm much more in favor of PJ Brown, who is as professional and solid as they come than a guy like Magliore who has had character questions in the recent past.

Having said that, the Spurs are stacked at the F/C positions...so much so that a consistently dominant Euroleaguer like Luis Scola will have trouble even coming over, let alone getting minutes.

IMO, free agency should be focused elsewhere, if at all, this year.

[ChumpDumper]

If we get another big man, it should be a cheap project shotblocker.

[JPB]

Kurt Thomas.

[Darkwaters]

If we get another big man, it should be a cheap project shotblocker.

Who was that kid in the D-League that you were touting last year? The shotblocking big that was starting to garner praise? Somebody like that might be a worthwhile venture.

[velik_m]

Get Slokar, he would be perfect for the Spurs. Cheap too.

[ballhog]

How about Bonzi Wells? I know they have enough 2's but if Finley or Vaughn leave. You never know. I like Barnes and Pietrus. Don't think they'll leave GS however.

[Manu Pacquiao]

How about Bonzi Wells? I know they have enough 2's but if Finley or Vaughn leave. You never know. I like Barnes and Pietrus. Don't think they'll leave GS however.


Bonzi Wells is bad for team chemistry. He's a headache to all his former coaches, he's no gym rat and he destroys team chemistry and positive vibes among his teammates.

[BeerIsGood!]

How about Bonzi Wells? I know they have enough 2's but if Finley or Vaughn leave. You never know. I like Barnes and Pietrus. Don't think they'll leave GS however.

Do you watch the NBA?

[Marcus Bryant]

I remember another young swingman who spent most of his first season in San Antonio on IR...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/2003/playoffs/news/2003/06/15/jackson_sider_ap/t1_jackson_ap.jpg

James White has gone through the initiation. Next season is his.

[BeerIsGood!]

I remember another young swingman who spent most of his first season in San Antonio on IR...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/2003/playoffs/news/2003/06/15/jackson_sider_ap/t1_jackson_ap.jpg

James White has gone through the initiation. Next season is his.

Damn that would be nice.

[Marcus Bryant]

White looked pretty good this season when he was pressed into action. Granted it was brief, but he showed a solid basic grasp of Spurs basketball. Better than what Elson showed, that's for certain.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Who was that kid in the D-League that you were touting last year? The shotblocking big that was starting to garner praise? Somebody like that might be a worthwhile venture.
JUSTIN WILLIAMS!!!
http://aol.nba.com/media/kings/act_justin_williams.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/chris_ekstrand/06/13/predraft.roundup/t1_justin.williams.jpg

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I remember another young swingman who spent most of his first season in San Antonio on IR...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/2003/playoffs/news/2003/06/15/jackson_sider_ap/t1_jackson_ap.jpg

James White has gone through the initiation. Next season is his.

:danceclub

We're gonna see a lot more of these!

http://aol.nba.com/media/act_james_white.jpg

[Mr. Body]

I'd be stunned if White was a third as good as Stephen Jackson is at his best.

But of course, I am stunnable.

[YODA]

We have to many losses after next year. Bowen, Horry, Vagyn, Finley, We absolutly have to work in some PT for whoever their replacements are.
Bonner D is suspect, 50-50 to stay
Butler apparently next impressed pop 100% GONE
Ely in the same catagory as Butler 75% gone
Horry. Wish he would retire a champ, need the space. 15% gone
White, Definitly will be back in training camp, but will he make rosteR? 20% gone
Finley, one for the road, I hope White can take some of h is min this year if he makes team.
Beno,,,,110% gone...pops doghouse
Barry....to much talk with him .......either way, will be useful as a player or trade bait.

Who to bring in??? since im thinking for the future, im t hinking of guys who can be worked in slowly,aka
MAtt Barnes
White
Herman,,,long shot
mydyess would be great, but not likely
Grant, love the guy, but dam,,another old vet?

BTW...how much cap space to we have anyway???????? This should be kinda important with what were talking about.


Yoda
Do or do not.....There is no Try!!

[TDMVPDPOY]

greg ostertag is makn a comeback, i just read...

[BeerIsGood!]

I'm positive the backups at every position (except PG possibly) will see a lot of burn in the regular season next year. Pop knows the need to keep TD, Manu, Parker, Horry, Finley, and Bowen fresh for the PO. He did it this year and will again next year. The Spurs will be around 53 to 58 wins again with another hard ass charge to a title.

That said, the 6-11 guys better be ready to get some serious PT.

[AFBlue]

I'm positive the backups at every position (except PG possibly) will see a lot of burn in the regular season next year. Pop knows the need to keep TD, Manu, Parker, Horry, Finley, and Bowen fresh for the PO. He did it this year and will again next year. The Spurs will be around 53 to 58 wins again with another hard ass charge to a title.

That said, the 6-11 guys better be ready to get some serious PT.

You can only activate 12 players, and guys 6-11 have mostly been set (Finley, Barry, Elson, Horry, Vaughn, and Bonner on occasion).

If the games are somewhat competitive, Pop is only going to use a 10-man rotation at most. Here's how I see it fleshing out...

PG Parker/"Draft PG"/Vaughn
SG Ginobili/Finley/Barry
SF Bowen/White/"FA or Draft G/F"
PF Duncan/Horry/Butler
C Oberto/Elson/"FA or Draft F/C"

If it follows last year's pattern...three PGs, four G/Fs, and five F/C will be active for each game. So if Bonner leaves then Butler presumably takes his spot on the bench...but there won't be many minutes for him there.

It could be that Pop occasionally decides to make one of the F/Cs inactive in favor of a G/F like White (both essentially taking the 06-07 Bonner spot)...but I wouldn't count on that player getting much time, unless it's a blowout.

So I seriously wouldn't get my hopes up about guys like White, Butler or any prospective draftee/free agent not playing PG getting significant burn.

If Barry is traded, Finley opts out, Oberto opts out, and/or Butler can manage to beat out Elson for backup Center, then you'll see any of the young guys getting a bunch of PT, but until then.....

[mountainballer]

PG Parker/"Draft PG"/Vaughn
SG Ginobili/Finley/Barry
SF Bowen/White/"FA or Draft G/F"
PF Duncan/Horry/Butler
C Oberto/Elson/"FA or Draft F/C"


some thoughts:
I think this FA or draft FC will more likely take the spot of Bonner. it might be Scola, or maybe a pick like Fazekas or Landry.
I'm sure Butler will be on the block, same with Elson (I think one of this two will be gone)
I can see that the Spurs try to aquire a veteran FA center for the min. if PJ doesn't retire, he would be the perfect fit for that role. so the big men rotation would see 2 new players. a new player at PG for Beno is almost a save bet and also at least one in the wing rotation. so this would make it 4 new players (or 5, if Barry is traded).
two picks, two FA and one via trade.

[AFBlue]

some thoughts:
I think this FA or draft FC will more likely take the spot of Bonner. it might be Scola, or maybe a pick like Fazekas or Landry.
I'm sure Butler will be on the block, same with Elson (I think one of this two will be gone)
I can see that the Spurs try to aquire a veteran FA center for the min. if PJ doesn't retire, he would be the perfect fit for that role. so the big men rotation would see 2 new players. a new player at PG for Beno is almost a save bet and also at least one in the wing rotation. so this would make it 4 new players (or 5, if Barry is traded).
two picks, two FA and one via trade.

Though I differ a little bit on who might be here next year to take over certain spots, I think what you suggest could very well happen.

The main point I was trying to make, however, was that it would take a trade and/or Fin/Oberto opting out to have a serious impact on which role players get the majority of the time, because the primary role guys are all coming back and are not likely to lose out to newbies...

I was also saying that bench guy #10, #11, and #12 would still only see time during blowouts. Just because Pop wants to rest some of the aging guys, he's not going to expand the in-game rotation, especially when the game is close and he needs his best guys out there. At most, I see him resting guys like Horry and Bowen on the second night of back-to-back games.

[Darkwaters]

At most, I see him resting guys like Horry and Bowen on the second night of back-to-back games.

ie, James "Flight" White Night

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:tu

[AFBlue]

Flight White Night....I like it!

But something tells me it's not going to be a common occurence...

[tmtcsc]

Sorry but Joe Dumars is resigning Dyess.

Are you sure he wants to return ? I heard he was extremely pissed off after the ECF and said something to the effect "I'll never win a ring here".

Was that just a rumor ? I've always liked his game.

[Big P]

McDyess has a player option for next year, more than likely he picks it up & becomes a FA next year, I doubt he will be getting $6.3 mil from anyone else. I suppose its a possibility that he opts out hoping to sign another contract like a MLE contract for 3 or 4 years, but I think he wants to stay in Detroit.

[mandel17]

I know he is not a FA this year, but I think the best player the Spurs could add would be Richard Jefferson of the Nets. I truly hope the Spurs make a run at him when the time comes...

[Big P]

I know he is not a FA this year, but I think the best player the Spurs could add would be Richard Jefferson of the Nets. I truly hope the Spurs make a run at him when the time comes...

That time wont be for along time..a very long time...he is signed through 2010/2011 & is on the books to make over $65 mil in that time period..its safe to say that Jefferson will not be a Spur, while he is a nice player, he is not worth a max contract.

[BradLohaus]

Imagine a small ball lineup against the Mavs with Duncan at center and Bruce and Posey at forward, Posey on Dirk and Bruce on Howard, with both spotting up in the corners on offense creating mega-space for the big 3. If we could somehow get Posey here I think he would be a player that could help counter the bad matchup we seem to have with the Mavs.

Maybe Miami feels like they could use Barry's shooting for a year and would do a sign and trade for Brent and Beno. That's over $7 million, which is more than Posey made last year, and Brent would come off the Heat's books after next year anyway, or they could deal his expiring contract by the deadline. Worth at least a phone call to Pat Riley, I'd say.

[mrsprinkles]

So, I know it sounds completely ridiculous, but if you're the Spurs, don't you have to do your due diligence and see just how available Ron Artest is? Yes, he's a complete lunatic, but he's a complete lunatic with a good contract who plays like a top-15 player in the right situation.

After all, Duncan and Robinson were able to keep that lunatic Jackson in check for a few years and a championship. Jermaine O'Neal did a pretty good job keeping Artest in line until Jackson showed up in Indiana. I think Duncan and Horry could keep him in line. For a while.

Like I said, due diligence.

And think about this: this year's team with a motivated Artest is the favorite for next year no matter what Phoenix does.

[Big P]

Imagine a small ball lineup against the Mavs with Duncan at center and Bruce and Posey at forward, Posey on Dirk and Bruce on Howard, with both spotting up in the corners on offense creating mega-space for the big 3. If we could somehow get Posey here I think he would be a player that could help counter the bad matchup we seem to have with the Mavs.

Maybe Miami feels like they could use Barry's shooting for a year and would do a sign and trade for Brent and Beno. That's over $7 million, which is more than Posey made last year, and Brent would come off the Heat's books after next year anyway, or they could deal his expiring contract by the deadline. Worth at least a phone call to Pat Riley, I'd say.

No way the Spurs would be stupid enough to pay Posey $7 mil a year, that is ridiculous. If Posey would come here for the minimum or maybe the LLE, then I'm all for it, but paying Posey anything over the LLE is ridiculous.

[Slinkyman]

7 million a year for posey is nuts but he'll get more then the LLE. At 30 his best years are behind him but i wouldn't mind the spurs offering a little more then half the MLE for posey. Something along the lines of what the gave Barry which i think was 4 years 20 mil.

[Darkwaters]

Does Miami seem to have any interest in resigning Posey or is he more than likely to leave town? I think Posey is the most realistic and probable outcome for this offseason as far as Bowen's replacement goes. And hes a guy that has championship experience as well as "shutdown Dirk" experience too. He is 30...but hes also ONLY 30. I'd prefer to have Nocioni, but with Posey you also retain Scola's rights.

[Big P]

No thanks. He's not worth a $20 mil contract & the Spurs would definitly not offer him a contract worth that much. I would rather spend the whole MLE on Pietrus than give Posey that kind of jack.

[Big P]

With Pietrus we could retain Scolas rights as well & bring him over after next season.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Sign Pietrus and bring over Scola. I have faith in James White being our Bowen replacement on D.

[Darkwaters]

I guess I just don't get the whole Pietrus thing. I wouldn't mind having him but there are much better prospects out there. For a system that generally requires a high basketball IQ to play in, Pietrus seems like a guy that would be on the Elson plan...he'd be thrust into the fray early and would only yield disappointment. Hes a great guy, he just doesn't seem to have the basketball mind that we typically like.


Sign Pietrus and bring over Scola. I have faith in James White being our Bowen replacement on D.

Unless you performed a S&T for Pietrus I don't see that happening. We only have one MLE and both of those guys would require it.

[BradLohaus]

Whoa, I didn't mean to imply that I'd offer Posey a deal for $7 mil per. I guess I shouldn't have said that $7 mil is more than he made last year, that was misleading. I was just pointing that out. Here's what I was thinking:

First, if we give $7 mil, we'd only have to take back about $5.5 mil, and not all of that has to be Posey's new contract. IF the Heat wanted Barry for one year, but they are also a team that thinks Beno has potential and wanted him as well, then we might have to compromise and take another small contract. I was thinking that the Heat had someone like that, but on further review, they don't. Still they could sign someone to a small one year contract to make it work, if that was necessary, and we'd just stick him on the roster and in a suit behind the bench. I'm just brainstorming here; the Heat may think Beno sucks for all I know, but maybe they think he has some potential.

The best scenario would be just trading Barry for Posey's new contract. I'd gladly pay him $20 mil for 4 years, like Slinkyman said. When I look at the Heat's roster I could see them wanting a player like Barry, especially since he's an expiring contract that they could move if it didn't work out. Worst case scenario for Miami is that he's gone by the end of the year.

Posey is a proven Dirk defender and 3 point shooter. We are going to have to go through Dallas to win titles in the coming years, unlike this year. Also we have to face the fact that next year might be Bruce's last in SA unless a takes a large pay cut, but he might do that. Still we need a replacement. I'll take Posey over a draft pick or a younger, mostly unproven free agent like Pietrus, and I like Pietrus. Maybe Posey's best years are behind him, but maybe not. Bruce was about the same age when he got here, maybe older, and his best years were ahead of him.

Posey is the best player out there that we could reasonably get that will help turn around our current bad matchup against Dallas. We may have been very lucky that this wasn't put to the test this year.

[Big P]

4 years & $20 mil for Posey? No thanks. Posey is a shell of his former self. If we could get him for the LLE for 2 years, then I'm all for it, but we need a YOUNG SF..Nocioni, Pietrus etc.

[Streakyshooter08]

The more I look at it, I think Posey might be a possibility. He is a unrestrictet FA, can shoot the 3, is long and a good defender. Of coure I would like a young SF (Nocioni, Pietrus, Brewer) more but I doubt a lot of teams would trade with the Spurs and make them better. I am also not sure that White can fill the role at SF. If course it would have to be for a good price.

[ChumpDumper]

Toronto has been trying to find backup PG Jose Calderon a new home. Once free agency starts, the Raptors have their mid-level exception set aside for Golden State's Mickael Pietrus, who could start for them next season at small forward.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2007/06/24/2007-06-24_the_lonely_wolf.html

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2007/06/24/2007-06-24_the_lonely_wolf.html
Shit. To me, he seems like the kind of player that wants to start and since Toronto is open of doing that, that's a good fit for him. But then again that's just me.

[Big P]

We can make him the same offer Toronto can with the MLE. If he had to choose between us & Toronto, I would think he would want to play with TP & has said as much in that French radio interview with TP a month or so ago.

[Darkwaters]

We can make him the same offer Toronto can with the MLE. If he had to choose between us & Toronto, I would think he would want to play with TP & has said as much in that French radio interview with TP a month or so ago.

Not to mention Mahinmi...

That being said though, I'm really not that interested in Mickael.

[Bruno]

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/228858


While a summer league stint and perhaps a second D League season are possibilities for Brown, his Canadian national team teammate Carl English isn't thinking about taking that rout.

The supremely confident English, who hasn't been in an NBA camp yet and toiled last year in the lightly regarded Croatian league, said he's not about even thinking about the D League.

And a summer league stint? Not a chance.

"I like the (private) workout route because you can prove yourself more," said English. "Summer league, you're not sure what's going to happen, if you're going to sit, if they've got draft picks.

"I'll see how the workouts go and I'll assess but at this point in my career I'm not going to go sit on anybody's bench at summer league. I'm past that, I'm better than that."

English has workouts scheduled with Houston, Dallas and San Antonio in the next 10 days and has already had one with the Indiana Pacers.

[ChumpDumper]

Can English do anything other than shoot?

[Bruno]

Can English do anything other than shoot?

He can be arrogant.

[AFBlue]

We can make him the same offer Toronto can with the MLE. If he had to choose between us & Toronto, I would think he would want to play with TP & has said as much in that French radio interview with TP a month or so ago.

It would take Finley opting out for the Spurs to even consider using all of their MLE on a player, because I sincerely doubt the Spurs use most or all of their MLE money on a kid that won't crack the rotation until a year from now.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Spurs should make a play for this guy in 08 if he just signs a 1-yr qualifying offer and not before then...

[ChumpDumper]

He can be arrogant.:lmao

[naico]

SPURRED TO SAN ANTONIO: There are those in the Raptors organization who think they will lose out on Grant Hill not to Detroit or Phoenix but to San Antonio.

The Spurs may be willing to give Hill a starting role – bringing Mike Finley and Manu Ginobili off the bench – and Hill would get a chance to finally play alongside Tim Duncan, seven years after they were supposed to hook up in Orlando.

I know the Raptors are going to put on a full-court press but it might not be enough.


http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/229508 (http://)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

SPURRED TO SAN ANTONIO: There are those in the Raptors organization who think they will lose out on Grant Hill not to Detroit or Phoenix but to San Antonio.

The Spurs may be willing to give Hill a starting role – bringing Mike Finley and Manu Ginobili off the bench – and Hill would get a chance to finally play alongside Tim Duncan, seven years after they were supposed to hook up in Orlando.

I know the Raptors are going to put on a full-court press but it might not be enough.


http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/229508 (http://)


:wtf No fucking way this happens. If it does: :pctoss

[mountainballer]

a player I didn't pay much attention till now is Ersan Ilyasova. mostly because I thought he is already 24, had something mixed up. he is just 20 in fact, so he should have quite some roome for improvement. added to what he already showed, he might be a very good player in 2 or 3 years.
he is restricted, but it will depened a lot on who the Bucks draft, what offers they are willing to match. they have a similar player in Villanueva (and Markota is also somehow similar), so they won't be willing to overpay for Iljasova IMO.
maybe they will make the same mistake they made with Pachulia, when they let him go two years ago. their GM is still the same.

[mardigan]

So Brevin knight got released today by the Bobcats.
he would be a much better option than Vaughn imo.
If we could get him for around the same money as it would take to get Vaughn, I say do it

[Bruno]

I don't like Knight a backup PG. He isn't a great for as Spurs' backup PG and Spurs need a reliable player to backup Parker : Knight isn't reliable because he is injury prone.

[Spurs Brazil]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/46808/20070629/clippers_waive_ewing_deline_option_on_singleton/

Clippers Waive Ewing, Deline Option On Singleton
June 29, 2007 - 7:58 pm
RealGM Staff Report -
The Los Angeles Clippers today waived guard Daniel Ewing and declined to exercise the third-year contract option on forward James Singleton, it was announced by Vice President of Basketball Operations Elgin Baylor.

In two years with the Clippers, Ewing averaged 3.4 points, 1.4 assists 13.3 minutes per game. Ewing was the 32nd overall selection by the Clippers in the 2005 NBA Draft.

Singleton, who originally signed with Los Angeles as a free agent prior to the start of the 2005-06 NBA season, averaged 2.6 points, 2.7 rebounds and 10.1 minutes per game over his two-year career with the Clippers. In a related matter, the Clippers also declined to tender Singleton a qualifying offer, making him an unrestricted free agent as of July 1st. [READ]

[THE SIXTH MAN]

I wonder if the Spurs will give Devin Brown and Jannero Pargo a look if they get rid of Beno and Barry?

[T Park]

I'd be down with Devin and Jannero replacing Barry and Beno.

That would be great...

[pad300]

DeShawn Stevenson, I missed any discussion of him on this board, might be a very interesting prospect - I understand we were interested last year when he went to Washington for the vet min.

Good jumpshot -overall EFG% 51, 40.4 3Pt%
Strong wing defender
6'5", 210 (roughly Bowen size)
Expected contract ~$10million/3years

[AFBlue]

Not sure by whom yet, but it appears Varejao has been offered an above-MLE deal. Would you pay over MLE for him to be a Spur?



Cavs' Varejao gets hefty contract offer

Move puts team in danger of paying luxury tax
By Brian Windhorst
Beacon Journal sportswriter
As expected, the Cavaliers may have a difficult decision upcoming with free agent big man Anderson Varejao.

According to an NBA executive, Varejao has been presented with a hefty contract offer in excess of the league's mid-level exception, which is around $6 million for next season.

Such an offer could be for up to five years and around $40 million or more. Only a handful of teams have cap space to make such an offer, but the one likely after Varejao is the Memphis Grizzlies.

An active player and rebounder, he fits with the up-tempo style of new coach Marc Iavaroni.

Varejao is a restricted free agent, which means the Cavs would have the option to match an offer sheet he could sign with another team.

Offer sheets can't be signed until July 11 and the Cavs would then have a week to match.

Team sources indicate the Cavs would like to keep Varejao but they are wary of overpaying as they head into the luxury tax next season. Which makes the decision complex, especially with Drew Gooden as the team's starter.

Varejao is currently out of the country and is preparing to play for Brazil in the FIBA Americas Championship in August.

[AFBlue]

DeShawn Stevenson, I missed any discussion of him on this board, might be a very interesting prospect - I understand we were interested last year when he went to Washington for the vet min.

Good jumpshot -overall EFG% 51, 40.4 3Pt%
Strong wing defender
6'5", 210 (roughly Bowen size)
Expected contract ~$10million/3years

Reminds me of Devin Brown.

He had some growing pains early on in this league because he wanted to be a shooter/scorer, so his efficiency and percentage were very low. When he concentrated on defense and let the game come to him, he became a solid player.

I certainly wouldn't mind him on this team for the right price...

[Bruno]

Not sure by whom yet, but it appears Varejao has been offered an above-MLE deal.

It's Memphis.

[Spurs Brazil]

Posey Willing To Do Sign-And-Trade
July 3, 2007 - 3:00 pm
Miami Herald -
The agent for veteran forward James Posey said Monday his client would agree to be used in a sign-and-trade deal if the Heat was unwilling to offer a new deal to stay in Miami.

Posey has attracted interest from Utah, Dallas, Denver, New Jersey, Cleveland and the Los Angeles Lakers , agent Mark Bartelstein said.

Posey is an unrestricted free agent and free to deal with another team without having to work out an arrangement with the Heat. But Bartelstein said Posey is willing to wait for the best opportunity.

''When it gets to this time of the year, you have to have an open mind about everything,'' Bartelstein said. ``[Posey] would like to go back to Miami, but he's going to make the best decision he can for him.''

Posey, 30, earned $6.3 million last season, his second with the Heat. Most of the teams interested in Posey reportedly plan to use either part or all of their midlevel exception salary of $5.5 million to $6 million a year. Any deal above that amount likely would require a sign-and-trade. [READ]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/46883/20070703/posey_willing_to_do_sign_and_trade/

[AFBlue]

All or part of the MLE?

For the Spurs, I'd say no thanks.

[pad300]

We've repeatedly brought in international FA's as well - they may as well be considered on this list. Draftexpress is doing what I think is a series, starting with this article: http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2159

A couple of profiles caught my eye. Can any of our international observers give some of their viewpoint on:

Erik Daniels, 6-8, Power Forward, Biella (Italy)

Marcus Slaughter, 6-8, Power Forward, Pinar Karisyaka (Turkey)

Particularly how do either of them project as SF's (ie. can they shoot, do they move well enough to defend on the perimeter).

Aaron Miles, 6-1, Point Guard, Pau Orthez (France)
I think he has been mentioned a couple of times on this board already as a possible Beno replacement.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Marcus Slaughter's gonna be on the Heat Summer League team.

[naico]

Wasn't yesterday the day kerr gave Hill and his familyb "the call"? We haven't heard anything about Hill today..Y'all think that's good news for us?

[Bruno]

Marcus Slaughter has even signed a two years contract with Miami.
Aaron Miles will play with Wizards summer league.
Erik Daniels will play with Bulls summer league. Let's dream and say that they are interested in him because they will soon S&T Nocioni to SA.

[Darkwaters]

Wizards are talking S&T of James Posey now. It doesn't sound like the Spurs are really pursuing him at all. Hopefully that indicates that Nocioni is close.

[mountainballer]

Wizards are talking S&T of James Posey now. It doesn't sound like the Spurs are really pursuing him at all. Hopefully that indicates that Nocioni is close.

Grizzlies have offerd Nocioni 46 million/5 years, it's reported this is a number the Bulls won't match. I fear Nocioni is further away than ever.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2007/07/05/01451057.html

[JPB]

From lequipe.fr :

Le Français Mickaël Pietrus, actuellement en négociations en vue de la signature de son nouveau contrat, a fait savoir jeudi qu'il préfèrerait rester dans son club de Golden State. Le départ de l'Américain Jason Richardson à Charlotte a convaincu l'ancien Palois, qui espère ainsi récupérer un temps de jeu plus important. Selon le règlement NBA, l'ailier des Warriors peut réclamer un contrat de six ans s'il décide de rempiler. Pietrus a vécu une saison 2006-2007 irrégulière : des débuts prometteurs avec 38 titularisations dans le cinq majeur, et puis le banc de touche dès la mi-janvier après les arrivées de Stephen Jackson et Al Harrington.


Pietrus said today that he'd prefer to stay in GS. Ridcharson going to charlotte convinced him and made him hope he could get some more PT.

[claytonM]

nice to see the whole free-agentcy :elephant so lets see whos out there that can keep this dynasty rolling. we need a solid 5(HArd to find) a 3, so here are some options

1. Antonio McDyess (re-signed with DET). would be perfect next to Timmy.
2. Rashard Lewis (signed with ORL)
3. Gerald Wallace. would be a great steal from the Bobcats a great fit for younger-fusion
4. Darko Milicic. a great center piece to put next to Timmy, but he would cost to much, signing him tp a low-mid level contract would nice.
5. Best of the Rest.... Andres Nocioni, Kelenna Azubuike(Very Tallented doesn't get much play time on the bench of Golden State), Mickael Pietrus(a high Flying Frenchman...TEach this man how to shot and play D he will become a perrenal all-star , Matt Barnes...best of the rest are all young and can come off the bench while developing with James White (the baller in #33 - wears the headband)

Spurs the Breakdown


1(pG) - T.Parker, J.Vaughn, B.Udrih (Drafting Tauren Green would of been SMart..he fell so far...)

2(SG) - M.Ginobli, M.Finley, J.White, B. Barry, B.Bowen

3(SF) - B.Bowen, M.Ginobli, J.White, B. Barry

4(PF) - T. Duncan, R.Horry

5(C) - F.Elson

Now our squad is pretty damn good, i gotta say, pietrus might just be the best fit for a squad that is already pretty deep.





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[Darkwaters]

Korolev just agreed to a new contract with the Clippers for two years.

[Rescueone]

Not sure by whom yet, but it appears Varejao has been offered an above-MLE deal. Would you pay over MLE for him to be a Spur?

HELL NO!!

[objective]

haven't been able to find out anything re: Matt Barnes

[urunobili]

haven't been able to find out anything re: Matt Barnes


Wednesday was the first day teams could sign free agents, and Barnes said he has not received the offers he anticipated. "Right now, there's nothing happening," he said. "I was thinking the midlevel exception was realistic, but my agent has been telling me teams have questioned whether the success I had was because of (Warriors coach Don) Nelson's system and whether or not I could have the same success in another system. Sacramento Bee

[TDMVPDPOY]

is brevin knight still on the board?

[Big P]

is brevin knight still on the board?


We already have 3 PG's, what do we need Knight for?

[MoSpur]

In case you trade Beno.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Jarrett Jack is available.


You're going to have to do a lot of reading between the lines when it comes to Portland's free-agent signing of Steve Blake, but I think you'll like what you see when you do.

This signing automatically means Jarrett Jack is what league executives call "a mover." The Blazers obviously don't think they can win big with Jack, and I expect he'll be in another uniform by the start of camp

http://blog.oregonlive.com/johncanzano/2007/07/blazers_eyeing_chris_paul_in_s.html

[TDMVPDPOY]

how about PJ BROWN? bulls already signed joe smith, have they released brown yet? good solid backup for center

[Bruno]

Ersan Ilyasova has signed in europe for €5M/2 years with Barcelona.
He was an interesting prospect and it could be the start of a new trend : with the grow of the BB in europe, europeans teams are now able to steal good nba players.
If it continues like that, we could see in the future MLE players going in europe because they give them more money.

[pad300]

Ersan Ilyasova has signed in europe for €5M/2 years with Barcelona.
He was an interesting prospect and it could be the start of a new trend : with the grow of the BB in europe, europeans teams are now able to steal good nba players.
If it continues like that, we could see in the future MLE players going in europe because they give them more money.

Don't know Bruno. He wasn't exactly a "good" NBA player. He was a prospect, but he wasn't very good with the bucks:
http://www.82games.com/0607/06MIL12C.HTM

He only has a PER over 15 at SF; where he played only 3% of the minutes available, and his defense was terrible everywhere, for net per's of almost -10 at all positions...If he was/is a diamond in the rough, he needs a lot of polishing.

They clearly offered him more money than anyone in the NBA €5M/2; given 1€ is currently worth 1.37 US$ and Euro contracts are typically given as post-tax values, that's equivalent to a two year contract for 10M US$. I'd say Barcelona overpaid radically. I also suspect that he might have been homesick for a more European lifestyle...

[Bruno]

DOB : 03/15/87.

But you're right, I should have called him a good nba project. It doesn't change that now european teams are able to steal players who could get a $10M/3 years contract in nba.

[Darkwaters]

Jarrett Jack is available.



http://blog.oregonlive.com/johncanzano/2007/07/blazers_eyeing_chris_paul_in_s.html


I would gladly take Jack anytime. So long as we don't have to trade too much.

[pad300]

DOB : 03/15/87.

But you're right, I should have called him a good nba project. It doesn't change that now european teams are able to steal players who could get a $10M/3 years contract in nba.

Who knows... I wouldn't be surprised to see him back in the league in 2010. On the other hand we might never hear from him again.

BTW, was he restricted or a UFA. I wonder what would happen if an RFA signed a contract in Europe - Would the NBA team still retain the right to match, as the Euro team would be outside the CBA?

[Bruno]

BTW, was he restricted or a UFA. I wonder what would happen if an RFA signed a contract in Europe - Would the NBA team still retain the right to match, as the Euro team would be outside the CBA?

He was restricted.
RFA works only between nba teams. Ilyasova has signed with Barcelona and Bucks are fucked. However, as long as Bucks make a qualifying offer for Ilyasova each summer, Ilyasova will still be a restricted free agent. If Ilyasova wants to come back in nba after his euro contract, Bucks will have the right to match offers he received from nba teams.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Warriors signed Belinelli.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47167/20070716/warriors_sign_belinelli/

[BIG z]

Whats up with Melvin Ely, are they spurs signing him or are they letting him go, he is my cousins Neighbour, we walking with his family and we asked how it is going with the spurs, he told us that u had alot of problem understanding the playbook and wanted to go to Phoeinx and would have been better off there, this happened when the spurs were in the First round, and on the same street lives Anthony Carter.

[AFBlue]

Whats up with Melvin Ely, are they spurs signing him or are they letting him go, he is my cousins Neighbour, we walking with his family and we asked how it is going with the spurs, he told us that u had alot of problem understanding the playbook and wanted to go to Phoeinx and would have been better off there, this happened when the spurs were in the First round, and on the same street lives Anthony Carter.

I'll say right now there's 0.5% chance that he's in a Spurs uni next year. And that's a stretch....

If the Spurs end up using a roster spot on a big, it'll probably be Mahinmi...

[TDMVPDPOY]

how about birdman?? his 2 yr suspension is up...do we need another big?

[AFBlue]

how about birdman?? his 2 yr suspension is up...do we need another big?

If the Spurs pull in another big, I think the leading candidate has to be Mahinmi. He's part of the future of this franchise and the Spurs are going to find out what they have in him sooner rather than later.

I'm not sure they do bring in another big, but if they do he's the likeliest one.

[Darkwaters]

how about birdman?? his 2 yr suspension is up...do we need another big?

I believe the Hornets retain his rights at the moment because of the way he left the league. And they might have interest in him since they just lost 2 bigs (Brandon Bass, Marc Jackson) that they don't seem interested in resigning.

Regardless though, Andersen's skill set includes blocking shots...and thats about it. He can't do much else at all. I'm not really interested.

[AFBlue]

I believe the Hornets retain his rights at the moment because of the way he left the league. And they might have interest in him since they just lost 2 bigs (Brandon Bass, Marc Jackson) that they don't seem interested in resigning.

Regardless though, Andersen's skill set includes blocking shots...and thats about it. He can't do much else at all. I'm not really interested.

You forgot his dunking ability....oh wait...

That slam dunk competition debacle was an embarrasment...

[pad300]

how about birdman?? his 2 yr suspension is up...do we need another big?

Isn't his supension up in January, not this summer?

[TDMVPDPOY]

nocioni is only being offered 38m/5yrs only....from the bulls...ummmm

spurs shouldve given him an offer

[AFBlue]

nocioni is only being offered 38m/5yrs only....from the bulls...ummmm

spurs shouldve given him an offer

They still would've come up a good $10M short of the reasonably cheap offer he received from the Bulls....and since he's restricted, the Bulls would've matched in a heartbeat.

The only chance they had to get him was via sign-and-trade....and even that was a longshot.

[Marcus Bryant]

Maybe the Spurs can find themselves in a S&T for Ely, but I wouldn't be surprised if he signs for the minimum somewhere.

[RC's Boss]

Isn't his supension up in January, not this summer?
Yes! He and Tim can be coke buddies!

[Darkwaters]

Yes! He and Tim can be coke buddies!

I don't think it was coke that he got busted for...wasn't it meth? Not that it matters.

[Streakyshooter08]

The Clippers have signed Brevin Knight to a two year deal.

"With guards Jason Hart and Daniel Ewing gone, the Clippers reached an agreement Friday with free-agent point guard Brevin Knight in a two-year deal. The team's only other point guards are Livingston, who underwent major knee surgery and isn't expected back before mid-season at the earliest; 37-year-old Sam Cassell, who played only three more games than Livingston last season, and 10-day-contract pickup Will Conroy."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp...ack=1&cset=true

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Spurs signed Ime Udoka. :smokin

[ChumpDumper]

If his agent is to be believed, we were considering Hoffa.

Ohanian said there was interest in Araujo all summer. The first team to call at the start of free agency July 1 was San Antonio, confirming to Ohanian that the defending champions saw something in a player so often labeled a draft bust.

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/ci_6705803

[T Park]

good god why..

[ChumpDumper]

He defended Duncan passably well out of nowhere in the WCFs. He is a very hard worker if nothing else (and there well may be nothing else).

[E20]

There is a big flaw in that Free Agen list. I mean, I can't believe it has gone this far as being unnoticed. I was waiting for a while for someone to point out that mistake, but so far nobody has, I don't know why, I guess they didn't wanna make the original poster feel bad for missing such a big player that could help out any team in a big way. I can't just stay here and let this thing go without being noticed. I mean you must have had a a huge brain fart not to mention this, either that or everybody was drunk while posting in this thread, but I guess it could happen, people do get snubbed all the time. So, back to matter at hand: I can't believe you guys left me, E20, off that list.

[E20]

:rollin

[Bruno]

Araujo is quite good defending the few true bigmen remaining in the league. He could have been a good nba role player if he were able to block some shoots.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Posey signed with Boston.

[MrChug]

Araujo is quite good defending the few true bigmen remaining in the league. He could have been a good nba role player if he were able to block some shoots.

Yeah, but he can't shot very well. Couple that with the fact that if the offensive player shots he can't block it and not being able block those shoots makes him a bad shoot blocker.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Mavs waive Pops.

Cavs looking at Mutombo and Allan Houston.

Cavs invite Mateen Cleavs and Ryan Bowen to camp.

Mavs are still considering PJ and Webber.

[wildbill2u]

Isn't it time to 'unpin' this thread?

[Darkwaters]

Isn't it time to 'unpin' this thread?

Probably not. With training camp coming up (and Marcus Williams' fate unsure) we could be looking at some solid recruits in the next few weeks that might fight it out for that last spot. Hassan Adams is the first solid name that we've gotten that might partake. I'd be interested to see who else jumps on board.

[ThePrivateSpur]

free agents were pretty weak this year. most of the better players are restricted free agents, so you know teams will match the offer.

[tp2021]

Which Spurs are currently under contract for the 08-09 season?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Tim
Tony
Manu
Udoka
Bonner
Oberto
Mahinmi

[Bruno]

Devin Brown should sign today an one year contract with Cavs.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Good for him.

[Fast Dunk]

Tim
Tony
Manu
Udoka
Bonner
Oberto
Mahinmi

Wow!! hahahahahaha

[Mister Sinister]

Wow!! hahahahahaha
You shut the hell up, Jackie Boy. You're dead.

[mavs>spurs2]

Whatever happened to Dajuan Wagner? If he's still a free agent then someone should give him a chance he's still young only like 24-25.

[Bruno]

Whatever happened to Dajuan Wagner? If he's still a free agent then someone should give him a chance he's still young only like 24-25.

Wagner will play next year in Poland with a big European team.

[Kori Ellis]

Devin Brown should sign today an one year contract with Cavs.

I know they talked about him working out there, but are they signing him for sure?

They have had about 20 guys work out so far with only two of them (Noel Felix and Darius Rice) scheduled to stay working out with the team from about 10 days ago all the way thru preseason. The rest of the guys only had two or three day workouts. I haven't even heard that Devin has worked out with them yet.

[Kori Ellis]

I saw on the Real GM board that someone is saying Devin has been working out there this week, but I just asked and he hasn't.

Maybe they are signing him, but he hasn't been working out.

[Bruno]

What I've said about Devin Brown was based on the thread on realgm.
The poster seems legit.
He hasn't said that Devin will work out with Cleveland but that he was in Cleveland to pass a physical and negotiate his contract.

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, I asked around. They worked him out as soon as the season ended but they haven't worked him out lately.

Noel hasn't seen him there in the last couple weeks, but maybe Devin just hasn't come to the practice facility or hotel for any reason since he's been there to negotiate his contract.

Noel has been there since the 6th and is scheduled to be there thru camp.

[Darkwaters]

I would think that Seattle would be a great landing pad for Devin. They seriously need a some help at 2 guard and Presti and/or Carlisimo might think that Devin can still help them. But thats just speculation.

I read today that Korolev is entirely free of the Clippers. He wouldn't be a bad pickup as that 15th player. Of course, he is no longer D-League elligible which hurts him.

[Kori Ellis]

Devin started working out with Cleveland today.

[pad300]

Jasikevicius can be added to the FA list.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/48122/20070920/warriors_request_waivers_on_jasikevicius/

He'd be an interesting training camp addition as competition for Beno. However, I expect he'd prefer to go back to Europe; I think he'd get more money, and certainly more playing time there...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The Bucks matched Miami's offer for Charlie Bell.

[Darkwaters]

When does training camp start? It has to be soon. I'm curious who the camp invites will be.

[Bruno]

When does training camp start?

Monday 1st October : media day
Tuesday 2nd October : start of the training camp

[T Park]

:lol @ Milwaukee.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Let's just hope Charlie doesn't cry over this. The NBA's already looking like pussies with AK47 over there looking like a water gun right now.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Hudson signs with GS.

[Diamantidis]

Jasikevicius is very closed to my other favourite team...Panathinaikos.
I Think that Spurs,we need a PG and a PF-C.

[Spurs Brazil]

Its Official I'm GONE!
Crazy week for your boy I told everyone in my last blog, the next time I was writing it was about my future plans regarding my basketball career. Next season I will be playing in Turkey and will be leaving this wednesday, yeah I know real soon and short notice. I was disappointed at first because I wanted to play on a NBA team and stay in the states so I can stay by my family. At the end of day though I'm blessed to play basketball and this is what I love to do. Sometimes you have to swallow your proud and this is what I had to do, It was the best situation for me and my family. My family understands the situation and support me no matter what. I'm excited, humbled, nervous, prepared, and still confident as ever. I will continue to work and believe that God wouldn't just give up on me this is just a small bump in the road. Playing overseas isn't as bad as I thought, great talent, and I will still be seen by NBA teams.

I have so much to say right now but nothing is coming out, so many thoughts are running through my head. I just want to thank all my family, friends, and fans for the support they have for me means the world to your boy. I will keep everyone updated on my status and my website will continued to operated by me and only me. Thanks again and talk to you soon your boy

Dee Brown
One Man Fastbreak "Illini Prince"

http://www.deebrown11.com/blog/

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/48250/20070929/cavaliers_sign_devin_brown/

Cavs sign Devin.

[T Park]

Dee brown >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beno Udrih.



Fucking RC Buford....