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spurscenter
06-18-2007, 07:40 AM
:donkey

exstatic
06-18-2007, 08:02 AM
If he were "Tony Parker with a better jumpshot", he'd be the consensus #3 overall pick, not rated in the 20s. nbadraft,net has him rated #27. Shit, Parker was almost drafted there as a total unknown with no jumper.

boutons_
06-18-2007, 08:08 AM
At which number was Deron Williams drafted?

spurscenter
06-18-2007, 08:35 AM
3?

hater
06-18-2007, 09:08 AM
I'm like Bowen with passing ability of Ginobili

ObiwanGinobili
06-18-2007, 09:10 AM
i'm like Bruce with the low post ability of Duncan and better 3pt % then Steve Kerr. :spin

draft me baby.

PM5K
06-18-2007, 09:11 AM
What's wrong with Parkers jumpshot?

JMarkJohns
06-18-2007, 09:15 AM
I'm quite sure he meant that his game is like that of Tony Parker's, OR that of TJ Ford's, only with a better jumper than that of Ford's. Everybody knows that Ford has a weak jumper.

And Nash is a better point guard than Parker. Tony just happens to be a better scoring point, which is what Brooks was attempting to get across.

There's no slap at Parker. Brooks is a fantastic basketball player. If he wasn't closer to 5-10 than 6-foot, he'd be going in the early second round. If he was 6-2, he'd go in the first round.

Mr. Body
06-18-2007, 09:18 AM
Brooks is in 'selling myself' mode. Confidence, delusional or not, can impress teams. He just wants guaranteed first round money, which I don't think he'll get.

JMarkJohns
06-18-2007, 09:25 AM
Also, he's not going to go undrafted. I have it on very good authority that if he's there when the Suns pick in the second round, he's theirs. In fact, I've heard them talk of trading down at #29, getting a mid-second rounder this year and a future first, so they are in a better position to draft Brooks. He's not a first-round prospect, but he's got enough talent and confidence that he'll contribute. He's no Casper. He loves taking the big shots.

They may not trade down, but the Suns have big time interest.

Also, too much is being made about his comment. The "better jumper" bit is about Ford. Not Parker. Hence it coming directly after, "or Ford, but with a..."

tlongII
06-18-2007, 09:35 AM
I would take Brooks in the 2nd round, or maybe late 1st round. He's lightning quick. He will have problems defending big point guards though.

Kori Ellis
06-18-2007, 09:36 AM
Why do the Suns publicize so much about what players they are working out?

Mr. Body
06-18-2007, 09:38 AM
Why do the Suns publicize so much about what players they are working out?

Trying to do everything the opposite the Spurs.

(playing up tempo/being highly emotional on court/not winning championships)

Kori Ellis
06-18-2007, 09:39 AM
Trying to do everything the opposite the Spurs.

(playing up tempo/being highly emotional on court/not winning championships)

Well as D'Antoni says, "Remember ... our goal is to entertain."

spursfan09
06-18-2007, 09:58 AM
Devin Harris thinks he could be better than Tony Parker to; now this guy. I guess everyone wants to be TP!

nkdlunch
06-18-2007, 10:00 AM
Trying to do everything the opposite the Spurs.

(playing up tempo/being highly emotional on court/not winning championships)

crying and whinning in front of the cameras

having hissy fits on the court

gaKNOW!blee
06-18-2007, 10:08 AM
crying and whinning in front of the cameras

having hissy fits on the court


I dont know man, Ive seen quite a few Spurs have hissy fits on the court, however nothing even close to big Mike.

JMarkJohns
06-18-2007, 10:29 AM
Why do the Suns publicize so much about what players they are working out?

I think it has everything to do with trying to keep their fans involved in the offseason. Of all the sports teams in Arizona, the Suns really are the only team most Arizonans consider theirs. The Diamondbacks are working their way in, but the Suns have been around for close to 40 years. For close to 20 of them they were the only pro ticket in town. While many of the original fans have moved or passed on, the middle-aged and young crowd still carries a similar notion on. It was something Colangelo did and did well, always keeping the fans on the edge of their seats with the next rumor or move. Sarver has continued it. It keeps them relevent in a city with four major pro teams and close to a half dozen lesser semi-pro teams.

I've always liked it. Maybe it's not exactly smart for basketball, but they'e always drafted well, when they've kept their picks, that is...

ElNono
06-18-2007, 10:33 AM
Tony Parker responded: "I'm like Aaron Brooks, but with 3 championship rings and a Finals MVP trophy".

Mr. Body
06-18-2007, 10:37 AM
Tony Parker responded: "I'm like Aaron Brooks, but with 3 championship rings and a Finals MVP trophy".

And taller and richer.

medstudent
06-18-2007, 10:56 AM
and with Eva

mathbzh
06-18-2007, 11:00 AM
I have Shaq FT%... draft me please

JMarkJohns
06-18-2007, 11:00 AM
And French... :rolleyes

Walton Buys Off Me
06-18-2007, 11:02 AM
The Suns without shamless self-promotion would be like an eighty-year old bitch with no depends.....that's all they have.

medstudent
06-18-2007, 11:04 AM
Suns fans are just mad cause their team would rather entertain with high scoring games than win. Look at how well Cleveland defended us in the Finals.

Blame your team not us.

JMarkJohns
06-18-2007, 11:10 AM
Suns fans are just mad cause their team would rather entertain with high scoring games than win. Look at how well Cleveland defended us in the Finals.

Blame your team not us.

What the hell are you talking about?

It's English. It's right there. He says his game is similar to "Tony Parker OR TJ Ford, but with a better jumper.

So that's Parker

or

Ford with a better jumper.

If he meant for both I'm sure he'd have phrased it differently, he is a college graduate.

This has nothing to do with the Suns or the Spurs, but everything to do with a mountain being made out of a misread molehill...

For your information, Brooks' game is very similar to Parker's. He takes it to the hoop often, has incredable speed, hits the mid-range game and looks to score, then pass off the attention paid to his scoring ability.

spurscenter
06-18-2007, 11:27 AM
Why do the Suns publicize so much about what players they are working out?

I know huh? lol

spurscenter
06-18-2007, 11:27 AM
Tony Parker responded: "I'm like Aaron Brooks, but with 3 championship rings and a Finals MVP trophy".

hahaha

AFBlue
06-18-2007, 11:27 AM
I wouldn't be so hard on the kid...he's just trying to promote himself because 6' shoot-first guards are hard to justify picking...Gilbert Arenas did fall to the second round afterall.

Brooks has a decent all-around game and could be a good pro...so give him a break.

spurscenter
06-18-2007, 11:47 AM
F Him

you dont start talking mad smack comparing yourself or better than the finals mvp.

respect son. earn it.

JMarkJohns
06-18-2007, 11:58 AM
F Him

you dont start talking mad smack comparing yourself or better than the finals mvp.

respect son. earn it.

You're hopeless... Do you not understand how the English language works?

He never said he was better. He compared his skills to Parker's skills, then to TJ's skills, but with a better jumper.

Have you even seen him play more than a handful of times? He dominated very good teams many, many times. He easily could have been Pac-10 Player of the Year. It went to Afflalo of UCLA, mainly because of the standings.

You're going to blame a player for answering a question that was, no doubt, asked him by a reporter?

REPORTER: "Who's game in the NBA would you compare yourself to?"
BROOKS Paraphrase: "Well, I'm not as good a PG as Nash, but my skills resemble those of Tony Parker, or TJ Ford, only I have a better jumper than Ford."

Parker was a late-1st rounder who has thrived, TJ Ford a sub-6-footer who's done very well when healthy. It's no coincidense that he, a likely early second rounder is comparing himself to player of similar skill sets who went late (Parker) of of similar stature (Ford).

Brooks is actually closer to Damon Stoudamire in overall skill set, but not in body type. That and the comparison would draw blanks because most people don't remember how good a player Damon Stoudamire was.

Avitus1
06-18-2007, 12:03 PM
Parker's shot gets better each year. He can be better then whom ever he wants to be but if he's on the Suns he better get use to Entertaining and not winning Championships.

gaKNOW!blee
06-18-2007, 12:05 PM
You're hopeless... Do you not understand how the English language works?

He never said he was better. He compared his skills to Parker's skills, then to TJ's skills, but with a better jumper.

Have you even seen him play more than a handful of times? He dominated very good teams many, many times. He easily could have been Pac-10 Player of the Year. It went to Afflalo of UCLA, mainly because of the standings.

You're going to blame a player for answering a question that was, no doubt, asked him by a reporter?

REPORTER: "Who's game in the NBA would you compare yourself to?"
BROOKS Paraphrase: "Well, I'm not as good a PG as Nash, but my skills resemble those of Tony Parker, or TJ Ford, only I have a better jumper than Ford."

Parker was a late-1st rounder who has thrived, TJ Ford a sub-6-footer who's done very well when healthy. It's no coincidense that he, a likely early second rounder is comparing himself to player of similar skill sets who went late (Parker) of of similar stature (Ford).

Brooks is actually closer to Damon Stoudamire in overall skill set, but not in body type. That and the comparison would draw blanks because most people don't remember how good a player Damon Stoudamire was.


"Tony Parker and TJ Ford, only with a better jumpshot."

he didnt say I have a better jumpshot than TJ Ford, by the way he said it its very obvious he meant both players.

AFBlue
06-18-2007, 12:09 PM
I assume he was talking about TP and TJ in regards to quickness, and nothing more. If he could finish like either player AND had a jumpshot, he'd be a lottery pick. I take that comment with a grain of salt...

But JMark, I don't buy that everyone is misinterpreting the comment....he meant both.

JMarkJohns
06-18-2007, 12:11 PM
Parker's shot gets better each year.

For the most part, so did Brooks'.


respect son. earn it.

You mean like being a sub-6-footer who averaged 18 ppg, 5 apg, 4 rpg and 1.5 spg on 46% from the field, 85% from the line and 40% from range?

He scored 20 or more points eleven times, including eight with 25 points or more, and four of 30 or more - in a total of just 35 games.

He led his completely overmatched team to a near upset vs. Florida in the Elite 8, scoring 27 points on 58% from the field and 50% from range.

The kid is a very good college player and Tony Parker is a pretty accurate comparison.

ShoogarBear
06-18-2007, 12:14 PM
With a name like Aaron Brooks, how can he miss as a pro?

wildbill2u
06-18-2007, 12:15 PM
He actually said that

AARON BROOKS of Oregon when asked who does he compare himself to in the NBA right now.

" I dont want to compare myself to the great Steve Nash, so I would say Tony Parker or TJ ford but with a better jumpshot"

SO he is saying Nash is better than parker and then saying he has better jumpshot than Parker.

LOL ...ballsy for a dude undrafted, much less gonna be a rook.
"If a man is not for himself, who will be for him?" Maimonides.

Of course, Maimonides would have made a lousy NBA talent scout.

JMarkJohns
06-18-2007, 12:16 PM
"Tony Parker and TJ Ford, only with a better jumpshot."

he didnt say I have a better jumpshot than TJ Ford, by the way he said it its very obvious he meant both players.

Nobody but Brooks knows for sure, but the structure and placement of the quote in question follows a player that just happens to have a very suspect jumper.

Had he said, "I'm like Tony Parker, or TJ Ford, only taller" this wouldn't even be a discussion. He's obviously not taller than both. He's initially comparing himself to Parker, then deviates and compares himself to Ford, only different in a specific fashion. Whether its skill-wise or height-wise, he's still only talking about the latter.

Again, the kid is a college graduate. If he meant both, I'm sure he'd have said, "only a better jumper than each" or something along those lines.

gaKNOW!blee
06-18-2007, 12:21 PM
Nobody but Brooks knows for sure, but the structure and placement of the quote in question follows a player that just happens to have a very suspect jumper.

Had he said, "I'm like Tony Parker, or TJ Ford, only taller" this wouldn't even be a discussion. He's obviously not taller than both. He's initially comparing himself to Parker, then deviates and compares himself to Ford, only different in a specific fashion. Whether its skill-wise or height-wise, he's still only talking about the latter.

Again, the kid is a college graduate. If he meant both, I'm sure he'd have said, "only a better jumper than each" or something along those lines.


I agree that only Brooks knows, but I dont think being a college graduate has anything to do with it.

Im a Buffalo Bills fan and never have any idea what the hell Roscoe Parrish is talking about, and he is a college graduate.

gaKNOW!blee
06-18-2007, 12:22 PM
He didn't say "Tony Parker AND TJ Ford...". He said, "Tony Parker or TJ ford but with a better jumpshot"

After the "or" the comparison with Parker stops. He's then comparing himself to the player that follows.


why do you keep saying he said OR? he clearly said and

JMarkJohns
06-18-2007, 12:34 PM
why do you keep saying he said OR? he clearly said and

Because the poster of this thread quote Brooks as saying "or" ... I didn't watch the video. If its different, then I was misinformed by the initial poster and apologize for my adamancy to the contrary.

I suppose I should have watched the video, since you at least imply he says "and" rather than what the initial poster wrote.

gaKNOW!blee
06-18-2007, 12:35 PM
Because the poster of this thread quote Brooks as saying "or" ... I didn't watch the video. If its different, then I was misinformed by the initial poster and apologize for my adamancy to the contrary.

I suppose I should have watched the video, since you at least imply he says "and" rather than what the initial poster wrote.



I didnt realize you didnt watch the video, but yeah the initial poster is definitley wrong.

JMarkJohns
06-18-2007, 12:41 PM
He does clearly say and, so that changes my arguement's real strength, but I still believe, only can't grammatically prove, that he meant only better than Ford. If you heard him you get a sense that's he's pretty smart. Good awareness, good sentence flow.

He certainly doesn't seem like a cocky kid, so I don't think he was talking smack, as the initial poster of this thread claimed. He's very smart, talking to a Phoenix crew and calling Nash great. Praising a team for a player they both drafted and then resigned.

Corn on the Colb
06-18-2007, 12:59 PM
Devin Harris thinks he could be better than Tony Parker to; now this guy. I guess everyone wants to be TP!

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20070529/capt.sge.hry50.290507035701.photo00.photo.default-512x341.jpg

http://i.oem.com.mx/23075960-3a84-4458-b300-a05f618b02c2.jpg

Not quite everyone... :lol

Corn on the Colb
06-18-2007, 01:01 PM
AND by the way, I lived in Eugene from about August to March, and watched a bunch of Brooks' games. He's as fast as Ford was in college, and has a better jumpshot.

He's not proclaiming that he is a better player than Parker. Stop it you guys, stop it.

itzsoweezee
06-18-2007, 01:13 PM
that's the second player entering the draft that i've seen compare his game to parker's. the other was mike conley.

AFBlue
06-18-2007, 01:16 PM
that's the second player entering the draft that i've seen compare his game to parker's. the other was mike conley.

I can believe that with Conley....he's a very fast player with a scorer's mentality and a GREAT ability to finish around the basket.

gaKNOW!blee
06-18-2007, 02:32 PM
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20070529/capt.sge.hry50.290507035701.photo00.photo.default-512x341.jpg

http://i.oem.com.mx/23075960-3a84-4458-b300-a05f618b02c2.jpg

Not quite everyone... :lol



Williams woud love to be TP.

spurscenter
06-19-2007, 05:53 AM
off the subject a bit

I think Conley is not gonna be the PG people think he is gonna be. Brooks is better than Conley IMO.

I think OJ MAYO in 2008-2009 is gonna be great but he is too lanky still.

Infamous
06-19-2007, 06:19 AM
Actually I'd say Steve Nash has a better jumpshot than Parker. He has one of the purest shots for a point guard ever. His three point percentage is usually in the 40's and he takes a lot of three's too. Just take a look..Parkers jumpshot just inside the three point arc is MONEY. It's almost always when he's open, not when he has the ball in his hands. Steve Nash shot that is money is his off balanced fadeaway, that almost always goes in. Steve Nash>Parker in almost every aspect..and during clutch times he can score just as well, if not BETTER than TP. Just look at game 6..he went crazy in that game down by twenty points, any other player would have given up.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
06-19-2007, 06:35 AM
Tony Parker responded: "I'm like Aaron Brooks, but with 3 championship rings and a Finals MVP trophy".

Game, set... PWNED! :lol

Parker has been highly underrated for two seasons now.

mathbzh
06-19-2007, 06:51 AM
Actually I'd say Steve Nash has a better jumpshot than Parker. He has one of the purest shots for a point guard ever. His three point percentage is usually in the 40's and he takes a lot of three's too. Just take a look..Parkers jumpshot just inside the three point arc is MONEY. It's almost always when he's open, not when he has the ball in his hands. Steve Nash shot that is money is his off balanced fadeaway, that almost always goes in. Steve Nash>Parker in almost every aspect..and during clutch times he can score just as well, if not BETTER than TP. Just look at game 6..he went crazy in that game down by twenty points, any other player would have given up.

Nash has obviously the better jumpshot.
But Parker >>>> Nash on defense... Defense is the only Nash true weakness... but it is really a big one.

spurscenter
06-19-2007, 07:00 AM
its incredible what parker did with his jump shot this year. Chip was tha man.

dbreiden83080
06-19-2007, 09:29 AM
Does he play no D like the great Steve Nash as well :smokin

AFBlue
06-19-2007, 09:36 AM
off the subject a bit

I think Conley is not gonna be the PG people think he is gonna be. Brooks is better than Conley IMO.

I think OJ MAYO in 2008-2009 is gonna be great but he is too lanky still.

That's one hell of a statement. You do realize that Conley is slated to go in the top 10 and Brooks will be lucky to get drafted in the top of the second round, right?

While I'm not saying your argument is totally baseless, I think you're not giving Conley enough credit. Conley puts relentless pressure on the opposing defense as an aggressive slasher and GREAT finisher. I would agree that his shot is not as refined as Brooks' is, but that makes him rely on his own ability less and look to create for others instead.

I won't say you're wrong...I'll just say it's a bold prediction.

JMarkJohns
06-19-2007, 05:04 PM
Brooks is better offensively RIGHT NOW than Conley, or at least, he id more complete. Better jump shooter, better from range, and very good at driving the lane. However, Conley is more of a real point guard, is, despite the speed of Brooks, quicker and is, without a doubt, the better defender of the two.

Conley is a great prospect, and should improve. However, I haven't seen him improve. He's only been around long enough to set the bar once.

Brooks has improved practically every year, in various ways, and became a HUGE leader for underdog Oregon. He's got potential to be a better Eddie House. More of a PG, but still as good a scorer/shooter. He's likely to be a career backup, but he can be a very good backup PG. A VERY good backup PG.

jonson
06-19-2007, 05:24 PM
I had the opportunity to watch Brooks for 4 years, while playing in Eugene. He is a very tough kid, capable of taking over games at the end and making clutch shots. (He had several last second/minute winning shots during the past season, and basically willed the team to victory on many occasions.) He is very very fast and has the potential to be a very good defender (his wingspan is about 6' 4" I believe). He also rebounds very well. He can almost always beat his man to the basket, but sometimes gets out of control and/or drives into traffic. When he doesn't, he's a good finisher. And he should have been player of the year in the Pac10 last season.

What Brooks is not, in my experience, is arrogant. So it's my guess that the jump shot reference was to T.J. Ford, especially since Oregon played Texas (with Ford) not too long ago in the NCAA tournament. Brooks is not the playmaker that Ford is, but he is a better shooter.

AFBlue
06-19-2007, 05:27 PM
Allen Ray

Better, Worse, or Equal?

JMarkJohns
06-19-2007, 07:37 PM
having a jumpshot is one thing, pulling the trigger in the finals is a whole different animal......talk is very cheap.

He shot 58% and scored 27 points in their elimination game vs. Florida in the Elite 8. The kid can pull the trigger and hit, no matter the stakes. Had anyone else been able to make a bucket that game, Oregon may very well have knocked off Florida. Malik Hairston had fouled out, and everyone else was struggling.

I like Allen Ray alot, but Brooks is much closer to Foye than Ray. If he was 6-4 like Foye, he'd be a top-20 pick. Being closer to 5-10 than 6-0 is really hurting his stock.

bigfan
06-19-2007, 07:43 PM
WTF is Aaron Brooks? Possibly future CBA spare.

JMarkJohns
06-19-2007, 08:27 PM
WTF is Aaron Brooks? Possibly future CBA spare.

He was only one of the better college basketball players all of last season. If he was on Duke putting up 18 ppg, 4 apg, 4 rpg, 46% from the field and 40% from range, he'd be a Wooden finalist.

He does the same at Oregon, leading a team to a near upset of the defending and eventual champion, Florida, and he's a CBA spare...

JMarkJohns
06-19-2007, 08:47 PM
Well, asking a college senior to take/make big shots in the NBA Finals is a bit unreasonable. Asking a college senior to take/make big shots on the biggest stage presented to him at the time and you've got yourself something that can be done.

I get your point. But I'd contest that shooting in a one-n-done game is harder to do than in a seven-game series. One bad game and his team is out. That's pressure.

I'm not diminishing Parker. What he's done in recent years is amazing, and he's been increasingly clutch. From 14-to-18 feet, you expect it to go in now. That's saying a lot. I'm not meaning to talk up Brooks at the expense of Parker. That's not my intent, but people dismissing Brooks as a nobody, and that's simply not the case. He's hit some incredable shots, including three or four game-tying/game-winning shots this past year.

He's a much better player than most are giving him credit for and he really does deserve to be drafted as high as he can go. His height will keep him out of the first round, more than likely, but he really does have aspects of Parker's game in a TJ Ford-sized body.

JMarkJohns
06-19-2007, 08:48 PM
I would take acie law before I took that punk. he made big shots, but again the finals and NBA playoffs are the pinnacle.

Yeah, I'd take Acie Law as well. Why, size. If stature was reversed, everyone would hear about Brooks as a potential lottery pick. He's really that good.

spursjustice
06-19-2007, 10:16 PM
I'm quite sure he meant that his game is like that of Tony Parker's, OR that of TJ Ford's, only with a better jumper than that of Ford's. Everybody knows that Ford has a weak jumper.

And Nash is a better point guard than Parker. Tony just happens to be a better scoring point, which is what Brooks was attempting to get across.

There's no slap at Parker. Brooks is a fantastic basketball player. If he wasn't closer to 5-10 than 6-foot, he'd be going in the early second round. If he was 6-2, he'd go in the first round.

true to that... I think the guy just got a little mixed up...

spurscenter
06-19-2007, 10:28 PM
I think Brooks will be like a Anthony Johnson. Just there as ok backup for years.

stretch
06-19-2007, 10:30 PM
SO he is saying Nash is better than parker and then saying he has better jumpshot than Parker.

LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1jxsvu8bA

he said that, because Nash IS better than Parker.

stretch
06-19-2007, 10:33 PM
And Nash is a better point guard than Parker. Tony just happens to be a better scoring point, which is what Brooks was attempting to get across.

eh, I don't agree with that either. Nash can penetrate nearly as well, and finish just as well as Parker, only he can also shoot freethrows and jumpshots FAR better. the last 2 years, they have scored the exact same amount of points per game, but Nash takes less shots.

coachmac87
06-19-2007, 10:48 PM
nash blows parker out of the water...tony is not a real "point guard" he is a scoring guard..tony needs to expand his range to the 3 this offseason and def work hard on his midrange game....he is already unstoppable in the paint and getting to the basket

Marcus Bryant
06-19-2007, 10:53 PM
nash blows parker out of the water...tony is not a real "point guard" he is a scoring guard..tony needs to expand his range to the 3 this offseason and def work hard on his midrange game....he is already unstoppable in the paint and getting to the basket

He dropped a couple of big 3s in the Finals.

JMarkJohns
06-19-2007, 11:11 PM
Nash isn't near the scorer Parker is. He doesn't have the mindset. He could be, but would rather not. When forced to be, he's uncomfortable. Yes, he's a better pure and overall shooter. Yes, he can drive the lane almost at will. Still, he looks to score based off his passing, whereas Parker looks to pass based off his scoring.

And spurscenter, I think a better description of Brooks will be Damon Stoudamire the last few years with Portland. Roughly a 10-to-14 ppg, 4-to-5 apg, slick shooting scoring point who can run an offense, but is more of a manager than a leader.

AnkleBreaker21
06-19-2007, 11:54 PM
having a jumpshot is one thing, pulling the trigger in the finals is a whole different animal......talk is very cheap.
yep thats the truth, somewhere lebron is crying :lol :lol

JMarkJohns
06-19-2007, 11:56 PM
LeBron doesn't have a jumper! He can get hot for a game here and there, but in no way, shape or form does he have what you would call a jumper. He can take as many during a game as he wants, he's a 30% shooter outside of the lane. That might even be generous.

timvp
06-19-2007, 11:59 PM
Aaron Brooks might not even get drafted. He was pretty horrible in the pre-draft camp. He'd have to have an amazing workout to be drafted in the first 40 selections.

JMarkJohns
06-20-2007, 12:06 AM
Aaron Brooks might not even get drafted. He was pretty horrible in the pre-draft camp. He'd have to have an amazing workout to be drafted in the first 40 selections.

His work outs have been great. I've heard that several teams like him for the early second, and I've seen at least one mock have him going late first.

It's crazy. I know he wasn't impressive at the camps, but a lot of players aren't. Mustafa Shakur of Arizona was impressive according to reports, and I wouldn't draft him in either round.

Just shows to go ya... :)

Brooks will get drafted. Suns won't let him slip past #59, and I doubt he lasts that long. I'd say he has a very good shot at top-40... #29 to #42 type range.

Obstructed_View
06-20-2007, 12:15 AM
Yeah, I'd take Acie Law as well. Why, size. If stature was reversed, everyone would hear about Brooks as a potential lottery pick. He's really that good.
I agree. It's the only reason he isn't going really high.

BTW, Conley didn't pass Law on the PG list did he? If so, why?

JMarkJohns
06-20-2007, 12:20 AM
I agree. It's the only reason he isn't going really high.

BTW, Conley didn't pass Law on the PG list did he? If so, why?

While I'd like to see him on the Suns, and I am excited about the possibility, I fear he'll be undercoached. Barbosa was nearly given up on by Mike D'Antoni. It was his brother Dan who saw the gem in the rough and worked with him and coached him up. Maybe Dan can work his magic again, but I don't like Mike's way of handling youngsters. As someone, it may have been ShoogarBear, said earlier, Mike can't develop a bench. He doesn't know how to use one. Either you play and do so for 30 minutes or you don't play. That scares me and makes me wonder if his talent is better suited for another team.

He's really very good and needs just the right coach and the right opportunity.

EDIT: and yes, Conley has passed Law on the PG list. Word is that three teams in the top-10 have eyes for Conley. The Hawks at #3, the Bucks at #6 and the T'wolves at #7. If he makes it past them, then he may slip to #11, where the Hawks will most definately take him. Law has been projected anywhere from #10 to #18 in most mock drafts.

As to why, Conley really stepped up his game in the Tournament, has incredable speed and lateral quickness, really knows how to pressure the ball, and, while a pure point guard, also has the rare combination of being a pure point while being able to score points. He picks his spots, runs an offense, and with increased strength and an improved jumper, will be a nightmare for many years.

I like Conley very much, but if the Suns were picking twixt the two, I'd want them to take Law. Right now, Law will make the most impact. He's more ready, better all-around and has better size.

Anyways...

Obstructed_View
06-20-2007, 09:14 AM
Word is that three teams in the top-10 have eyes for Conley. The Hawks at #3, the Bucks at #6 and the T'wolves at #7.
Well, that explains it. I'll go out on a limb and say Law's gonna be a better pro, especially if the Hawks draft Conley.

JMarkJohns
06-20-2007, 12:03 PM
I think Conley will be a better pure point, but I haven't seen but a dozen games of him. I've seen a few more of Law, but can also see his statistical progression year to year.

I can't say, but I'd say you're as likely to be right as wrong. I just haven't seen enough of the youngster to have a definitive opinion one way or the other.

I will agree that he could br ruined if drafted by the Hawks. Since the Suns get the Hawks pick next year regardless, my ideal draft for them is B.Wright, Jianlian or Conley at #3 and then Conley or McRoberts at #11. All are projects with very little ability/opportunity to impact right now.

AFBlue
06-20-2007, 12:20 PM
I think Conley will be a better pure point, but I haven't seen but a dozen games of him. I've seen a few more of Law, but can also see his statistical progression year to year.

I can't say, but I'd say you're as likely to be right as wrong. I just haven't seen enough of the youngster to have a definitive opinion one way or the other.

I will agree that he could br ruined if drafted by the Hawks. Since the Suns get the Hawks pick next year regardless, my ideal draft for them is B.Wright, Jianlian or Conley at #3 and then Conley or McRoberts at #11. All are projects with very little ability/opportunity to impact right now.

As long as Billy Knight is running the team in Atlanta, it's safe to say that the Suns should have their pick of Michael Beasley, OJ Mayo, Eric Gordon, Derrick Rose, et al. My early prediction has Hawks...I mean Suns w/ the #1 pick.

Which sucks for me as a Spurs fan...

JMarkJohns
06-20-2007, 04:41 PM
I don't see #1 overall, But I'd be very happy with a top-5 pick, overjoyed with a top-3 pick, and exstatic if they happened to land their franchise first #1 overall. It's a draft later than I prefer, but Beasley is a monster. He's got some issues, however. I've seen Rose play. Very nice. Gordon is an undersized SG. Suns already have one in Barbosa. Also, while I like mayo on my sandwiches, no thanks to Mayo on the Suns. I've seen him play as well, and he's too Marbury-like, where everything has to run through him.