Argentina vs. USA - June 28

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Should be an interesting game. We are bringing our "A" team IMO. The best we can field at the moment. Any news as to what team the US has? Players? anything? One thing I can say about our team right now is we are deep. We have quality bench players at almost every position. Then again, we were also deep in the World Cup...

The Argentinian lineup is as follows:

Goalies:
Roberto Abbondanzieri
Juan Pablo Carrizo
Agustín Orión

Defenders:
Javier Zanetti
Roberto Ayala
Gabriel Heinze
Gabriel Milito
Daniel Díaz
Hugo Ibarra
Nicolás Burdisso

Midfielders:
Luis González
Juan Román Riquelme
Javier Mascherano
Esteban Cambiasso
Fernando Gago
Juan Sebastián Verón
Pablo Aimar

Forwards:
Lionel Messi
Hernán Crespo
Diego Milito
Carlos Tevez
Rodrigo Palacio

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I'm not too happy Basile included Veron, but I guess you take what you can get. The teams he's picked in the past have left a lot to be desired. I'm just glad the man is trying to get back what we had in the World Cup. I thought that team was excellent. A young group of guys with great team play, great individual talent, and tons of heart. We lost (in penalty shootout) to a great Germany team, and there is no shame in that.

[Spurologist]

Bob Bradley will probably have the same lineup in the Copa as he has in the Gold Cup. I can't foresee any major changes.


Goalies:
Tim Howard
Kasey Keller
Brad Guzan

Defenders:
Carlos Bocanegra
Jonathan Spector
Jay Demerit
Jonathan Bornstein
Oguchi Onyewu
Frank Simek
Michael Parkhurst
Frankie Hejduk

Midfielders:
Ricardo Clark
Pablo Mastroeni
Justin Mapp
Michael Bradley
Clint Dempsey
Demarcus Beasley
Steve Ralston
Benny Feilhaber

Forwards:
Taylor Twellman
Brian Ching
Eddie Johnson
Landon Donovan


Damn. That Argentina lineup is impressive, but a lot of the US players are fighting to be recognized so they can sign with a team. Beasley and Onyewu both don't have a team after they were let go by Man City and Newcastle. Plus almost all of the Argentina players already have contracts with big clubs. This could be the coming out party for many Americans especially Justin Mapp, Michael Bradley, Clark, and Bornstein.

Argentina clearly has the edge but I wouldn't put it past the US team pulling an upset.

[ALVAREZ6]

Where's Javier Saviola and Maxi Rodriguez?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Where's Javier Saviola and Maxi Rodriguez?Basile didn't call them. I don't mind he didn't call Saviola, we're pretty stacked at that position. Maxi on the other hand could've been useful. Still, like I said earlier, this team beats the teams he's fielded in the past, by a mile.

[CubanMustGo]

US has recently lost a lot of its players who had lots of caps (retirement etc.), while there is potential I doubt the team as it stands now will be able to pull one over on a team as good as Argentina. 2-0 Argentina.

[BeerIsGood!]

I see...


a draw

[Spurologist]

Bob Bradley will probably have the same lineup in the Copa as he has in the Gold Cup. I can't foresee any major changes.


Goalies:
Tim Howard
Kasey Keller
Brad Guzan

Defenders:
Carlos Bocanegra
Jonathan Spector
Jay Demerit
Jonathan Bornstein
Oguchi Onyewu
Frank Simek
Michael Parkhurst
Frankie Hejduk

Midfielders:
Ricardo Clark
Pablo Mastroeni
Justin Mapp
Michael Bradley
Clint Dempsey
Demarcus Beasley
Steve Ralston
Benny Feilhaber

Forwards:
Taylor Twellman
Brian Ching
Eddie Johnson
Landon Donovan


Damn. That Argentina lineup is impressive, but a lot of the US players are fighting to be recognized so they can sign with a team. Beasley and Onyewu both don't have a team after they were let go by Man City and Newcastle. Plus almost all of the Argentina players already have contracts with big clubs. This could be the coming out party for many Americans especially Justin Mapp, Michael Bradley, Clark, and Bornstein.

Argentina clearly has the edge but I wouldn't put it past the US team pulling an upset.

Nevermind. Here's the official US lineup for the COPA AMERICA

Goalkeepers: Brad Guzan (Chivas USA), Kasey Keller (Borussia Moenchengladbach, Germany)


Defenders: Jonathan Bornstein (Chivas USA), Bobby Boswell (D.C.), Dan Califf (Aalborg BK, Denmark), Jimmy Conrad (Kansas City), Jay DeMerit (Watford, England), Drew Moor (Dallas), Heath Pearce (Nordsjaelland, Denmark), Marvell Wynne (Toronto)


Midfielders: Kyle Beckerman (Colorado), Ricardo Clark (Houston), Benny Feilhaber (Hamburg SV, Germany), Eddie Gaven (Columbus), Sacha Kljestan (Chivas USA), Justin Mapp (Chicago), Lee Nguyen (PSV Eindhoven, Netherlands), Ben Olsen (D.C.)


Forwards: Charlie Davies (Hammarby, Sweden), Herculez Gomez (Colorado), Eddie Johnson (Kansas City), Taylor Twellman (New England)

[Spurologist]

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[ALVAREZ6]

so what time is the game tomorrow?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I think its at 9:30 pm over here. Televised by TyC sports.

[ALVAREZ6]

I think its at 9:30 pm over here. Televised by TyC sports.So, is that 7:30 or 8:30 on the east coast? I forget when the time difference of Argentina and the US east coast is 1 or 2 hours, half the year it's one, half two.

[ALVAREZ6]

From what I've googled, this game isn't even televised here on cable....fucking weak.

[Spurologist]

From what I've googled, this game isn't even televised here on cable....fucking weak.

In the US, it's 8:45 PM ET on Goltv, Telefutura, and Telelatino

[Kermit]

In the US, it's 8:45 PM ET on Goltv, Telefutura, and Telelatino
Only Telelatino is available on Time Warner (at least in Austin) and it costs $6.95 for the whole Latino package. I'm actually considering buying it.

[Spurologist]

Only Telelatino is available on Time Warner (at least in Austin) and it costs $6.95 for the whole Latino package. I'm actually considering buying it.

I ain't paying jack for that package. I'm just glad I have Goltv and I pray to God that Ray Hudson is the announcer. Nevermind. Ray Hudson is GOD

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

My prediction:

USA 3 - Argentina 0

[SAtown]

Prediction:

Argentina 3 - 0 USA

[Kermit]

the u.s. might win, but they're not scoring three goals.

[ALVAREZ6]

In the US, it's 8:45 PM ET on Goltv, Telefutura, and TelelatinoI saw that, but I've never heard of any of those channels, I obviously don't haev them.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

My prediction:

USA 3 - Argentina 0this isn't 1995... jajaja However, I agree that anything can happen really. If the US wins this one they'll get major props. Beating our A team with their B team is no small thing.

having said that Argentina 4 - 1 USA.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

this isn't 1995... jajaja However, I agree that anything can happen really. If the US wins this one they'll get major props. Beating our A team with their B team is no small thing.

having said that Argentina 4 - 1 USA.

This so called "A" team makes me wanna puke when I watch it. Specially with Veron and Riquelme there. We will get knocked out in the first round, but the good side is Basile might get fired.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

This so called "A" team makes me wanna puke when I watch it. Specially with Veron and Riquelme there. We will get knocked out in the first round, but the good side is Basile might get fired.well if we end up losing to the US "B" team, then I'd suppose you'd be right

[Kermit]

well if we end up losing to the US "B" team, then I'd suppose you'd be right
i don't think you have anything to worry about.

[Marcus Bryant]

Only Telelatino is available on Time Warner (at least in Austin) and it costs $6.95 for the whole Latino package. I'm actually considering buying it.

GolTV is available on Comcast Digital.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

30 minutes to the start of the game

[MaNuMaNiAc]

holy shit! Paraguay just scored like 3 goals in about 10 minutes

[MaNuMaNiAc]

game is about to start

[MaNuMaNiAc]

... guess I'm the only one here :lol

[Gerryatrics]

Streaming now. What's with the US kits? Who thought it would be a good idea to wear blue and white vertical stripes against Argentina? The US side is way overmatched, but any given game Keller is capable of putting up a shutout, so I still have hope for an upset.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

:lmao at the US playing 8 player defense

[MaNuMaNiAc]

wow... penalty

[greenroom]

Penalty kick USA

[MaNuMaNiAc]

it was a penalty though, good call

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Told ya, this formation is stupid, it's like the Suns in basketball. "Oh nevermind, we don't care about defending".

[Marcus Bryant]

GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllll

[greenroom]

Gooooooollllll ...sweet

[MaNuMaNiAc]

well this was unexpected, but it was a well executed play that ended in a right call for penalty and a very well executed penalty

[ALVAREZ6]

where are you streaming it?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

still, this is only the beginning

[Gerryatrics]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!

Goal! Goal! Goal!

USA! USA! USA!

[ALVAREZ6]

WTF already a US goal...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

and ... its a goal hehe

[ALVAREZ6]

gerryatrics answer my damn it, where are you streaming it?

[greenroom]

damn that lead did not last long

[MaNuMaNiAc]

didn't last long huh?

[Gerryatrics]

where are you streaming it?

http://www.tvunetworks.com/

d/l the player, click on GolTV.

[Gerryatrics]

:pctoss

[MaNuMaNiAc]

ugly goal though

[MaNuMaNiAc]

man, we are playing absolutely no defense!

[ALVAREZ6]

so what's the score...and who has scored?

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

so what's the score...and who has scored?
1-1

Johnson
Crespo

[ALVAREZ6]

ugly goal thoughCrespo always gets ugly goals

[MaNuMaNiAc]

the entire US team crammed into their half of the field :lol I guess they don't want us to score huh?

[Gerryatrics]

Except for the goal the US defense hasn't been completely absolutely horrible. Good sign perhaps.

[greenroom]

US looking pretty good for not having its A team... but it is still in the 1st half

[MaNuMaNiAc]

we're playing like absolute crap

[MaNuMaNiAc]

absolutely no fucking defense!

[greenroom]

we're playing like absolute crap

Well since we were no even supposed to be able to run with Argentina I think its good to be 1-1 at the 30 minutes

[greenroom]

Well since we were no even supposed to be able to run with Argentina I think its good to be 1-1 at the 30 minutes

Opps I think you ment for Argentina.. sorry

[MaNuMaNiAc]

it sure does seem like the US realized that we are mostly offense and hardly no defense, hence playing the whole team on defense and just attacking on counters

[MaNuMaNiAc]

man, Veron needs to retire, like NOW!

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Too many captains and very few sailors on this ship...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Too many captains and very few sailors on this ship...:lol well put

[MaNuMaNiAc]

holy crap that was close!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

christ, another close one! damned, get in ball!

[Gerryatrics]

Yikes, hell of a save.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

well that was a crap first half for us :lol the US is playing very smart football. They understood we had a very strong offense (although I don't know where they've been today) and therefore concentrated the whole team on their half, and only attacked on counters.

[Gerryatrics]

1-1 at the half, can't really complain about that. The US lineup might not be that strong, but they're playing with heart.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

US just trying to keep this score. No offense whatsoever

[MaNuMaNiAc]

but the few times the US gets to the goal, they make it very interesting

[MaNuMaNiAc]

wow... this has to be the most boring game in history

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

but the few times the US gets to the goal, they make it very interesting

Because in midfield is Mascherano vs. 3 or 4 US players, no one else can win the ball back, and now he substitutes Cambiasso with Aimar.

If the U.S. keeps playing this smart, they can win it with a couple of counterattacks.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

finally, some life

[greenroom]

damn crespo 2-1 Argentina

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Now it will be interesting to see what the U.S. do, they need a goal, so they can't defend that deep and wait.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

hopefully this goal will light a fire under the US' team and free up their half :lol Somebody tell the US defending won't cut it now

[Gerryatrics]

Defense just fell apart there. US is going to have to push a bit now.

[Gerryatrics]

Herculez! Herculez!

Good substitution, hopefully lends a bit of a spark on offense.

[resistanze]

Argentina returning the favor now on defense :lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Now That's A Goal!!!

[resistanze]

'tis a wrap

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

I fucking hate those streakers who run into the pitch, fucking stupid it is. You miss the rest of the match and spend a night in jail, what's the point?

[Gerryatrics]

No way.

:pctoss

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Tevez in! now that has to scare the Americans... if only because of that mug of his

[MaNuMaNiAc]

ahem...


this isn't 1995... jajaja However, I agree that anything can happen really. If the US wins this one they'll get major props. Beating our A team with their B team is no small thing.

having said that Argentina 4 - 1 USA.

[Gerryatrics]

::sigh::

Good first half at least. Second half was painful though.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Props to the US for having lasted 60 minutes, some good defense there

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

ahem...

They can win the cup and I'd still dislike Basile, Veron and Riquelme.

Además, hasta que entró Aimar fue todo bastante malo.
Aimar y Messi >>>>>> Riquelme y Verón

[MaNuMaNiAc]

They can win the cup and I'd still dislike Basile, Veron and Riquelme.

Además, hasta que entró Aimar fue todo bastante malo.
Aimar y Messi >>>>>> Riquelme y Verónse, pero admitilo, te lo cante! jajaja y vos me decias creido juas

[resistanze]

Amazing. For every goal Argentina scored, I had temporarily left the room to quickly go to my bedroom. And I was only gone for 30-45 secs each time.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

se, pero admitilo, te lo cante! jajaja y vos me decias creido juas

Bueeeeh, descorchá el champagne y festejá si querés... :p: a mi la verdad este equipo no me produce mucho...desde la época de Passarella que no estaba tan desencantado con la Selección.

Che, los Spurs draftearon a Splitter, esto se va a llenar de brazucas....va a estar más divertido todavía, jajaja.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

ya la decorche hermano jajaja

uuh Splitter? ahora se viene abajo el foro jajaja

[Kermit]

well, at least it wasn't as bad as it ended up looking. we hung in there for a while with our c team against one of the classiest teams in the world.

[Typhoon]

That's what happens when you have 11 dudes defending when you are tied and down 1...you always gotta look for a goal, or you are gonna get fucked in football.

I like how Argentina did, hard to do much when you have 11 dudes on defense...Great game Argentina!

[Spurologist]

Didn't watch the game, but US just completely outclassed.

The USA is going to need some semblance of an offense to even compete in this competition

[manubili]

Buen partido. Yo no puedo decidirme entre Tevez o Messi, habría que alternarlos dependiendo el rival. Me encantaría que jueguen juntos pero a Crespo no lo podés sacar. Lindo dilema.

Hubiera sido lindo que hubiera más brazucas posteando en los playoffs, despues de ganarle a nene, verejao, etc. jeje