Now for some positive news

[Oh, Gee!!]

terror averted in London:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/06/29/london.alert/index.html

[Yonivore]

terror averted in London:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/06/29/london.alert/index.html
Thankfully, these weren't the top-tier terrorists we're killing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sounds like this is some newby who lit the fuse while he was driving down the street or was on a suicide mission with a defective bomb.

That's why we're fighting them over there...it's where their best and brightest are. You lefties think that just anybody can assemble a quality car bomb and drive themselves to paradise. Oh no, not true.

Exhibit 1.

[Mr. Peabody]

Thankfully, these weren't the top-tier terrorists we're killing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sounds like this is some newby who lit the fuse while he was driving down the street or was on a suicide mission with a defective bomb.

That's why we're fighting them over there...it's where their best and brightest are. You lefties think that just anybody can assemble a quality car bomb and drive themselves to paradise. Oh no, not true.

Exhibit 1.

So Europe is basically the farm system for terrorists to learn their craft before heading over to the Middle East? Kind of like the NFL Europa of terrorism, I guess.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Thankfully, these weren't the top-tier terrorists we're killing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sounds like this is some newby who lit the fuse while he was driving down the street or was on a suicide mission with a defective bomb.

That's why we're fighting them over there...it's where their best and brightest are. You lefties think that just anybody can assemble a quality car bomb and drive themselves to paradise. Oh no, not true.

Exhibit 1.

Apparently the bomb could have done some real damage, and it's fortunate that some alert fire fighters were in the area at the time to see smoke coming from the car's interior.

And I doubt whoever it is that planted the bomb was concerned with "driving himself to paradise" since the car was empty.

[Phil Hellmuth]

That's why we're fighting them over there...it's where their best and brightest are. You lefties think that just anybody can assemble a quality car bomb and drive themselves to paradise. Oh no, not true.



oh plz. always dissecting an aspect and diverting it to a liberal swing.

[Oh, Gee!!]

oh plz. always dissecting an aspect and diverting it to a liberal swing.

even good news can be used to insult "liberals" when you think like Yoni

[Mr. Peabody]

terror averted in London:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/06/29/london.alert/index.html

Allegedly, someone changed London's Wikipedia entry to reflect the city's destruction by a bomb, hours before authorities discovered the bomb. When discovered, the anonymous poster said his change to the entry was merely based on rumor and hearsay.

[Yonivore]

Apparently the bomb could have done some real damage, and it's fortunate that some alert fire fighters were in the area at the time to see smoke coming from the car's interior.

And I doubt whoever it is that planted the bomb was concerned with "driving himself to paradise" since the car was empty.
It was this (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1272910,00.html)...

An eyewitness said a man had crashed the vehicle into bins near Tiger Tiger and then ran off, before the alarm was raised.
...and an earlier article (I can no longer find) that suggested the bomber hadn't reached his intended target but had abandoned the vehicle when he accidentally set the fuse to which I attribute my opinion of incompetent terrorist. That article also said the witnesses saw smoke coming from the vehicle when it crashed and was abandoned (suggesting he may have prematurely triggered the fuse or that some other malfunction occurred).

I'm thinking if you're going to set off a car bomb, you're not going to want to draw attention to yourself as you place the device by driving erratically and driving into trash bins.

And, are you seriously arguing al Qaeda hasn't lost some of its best bomb makers and matyrs in Iraq and Afghanistan?

[Yonivore]

even good news can be used to insult "liberals" when you think like Yoni
How's the shoe feel now that it's on your foot. This is exactly what "liberals" have done on the war in Iraq. Ignored any positive and accentuated the negative.

I say if we weren't in Iraq and Afghanistan, the bomb-maker in London may have been more competent and, unfortunately, might have succeeded.

[Yonivore]

Allegedly, someone changed London's Wikipedia entry to reflect the city's destruction by a bomb, hours before authorities discovered the bomb. When discovered, the anonymous poster said his change to the entry was merely based on rumor and hearsay.
Funny you should bring this up:

Was London Bomb Plot Heralded On Web? (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/29/terror/main2997517.shtml)

Internet Forum Comment From Night Before: "London Shall Be Bombed"

[Mr. Peabody]

How's the shoe feel now that it's on your foot. This is exactly what "liberals" have done on the war in Iraq. Ignored any positive and accentuated the negative.

I say if we weren't in Iraq and Afghanistan, the bomb-maker in London may have been more competent and, unfortunately, might have succeeded.

My understanding is that they have yet to apprehend the bomb maker. How do even know that this person has ties to the groups we are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan?

[Yonivore]

My understanding is that they have yet to apprehend the bomb maker. How do even know that this person has ties to the groups we are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Islamic website predicted London bomb hours before attack on nightclub (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23402331-details/Al+Qaeda+suspected+of+'massive'+bomb+attack+on+Lon don+nightclub/article.do)

Meanwhile, an international manhunt was launched tonight to find the gang - believed to be linked to al Qaeda - that came within moments of blowing up hundreds of revellers in a London nightclub.
Sounds like the same group to me.

Other articles have made the same connection with varying information.

[George Gervin's Afro]

How's the shoe feel now that it's on your foot. This is exactly what "liberals" have done on the war in Iraq. Ignored any positive and accentuated the negative.

I say if we weren't in Iraq and Afghanistan, the bomb-maker in London may have been more competent and, unfortunately, might have succeeded.


You think.. just your opinion again...I say this guy/group was on the fence prior to the unecessary war and because our involvement they decided to strike.. Just as plausible as your scenerio

[Mr. Peabody]

Police think they found a second car.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/06/29/london.alert/index.html

[Yonivore]

You think.. just your opinion again...I say this guy/group was on the fence prior to the unecessary war and because our involvement they decided to strike.. Just as plausible as your scenerio
Not really, they've been committing similar attacks since before 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq.

So, no, not just as plausible but, thanks for playing.

I guess the investigation will demonstrate which of us is right though. eh?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Not really, they've been committing similar attacks since before 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq.

So, no, not just as plausible but, thanks for playing.

I guess the investigation will demonstrate which of us is right though. eh?


I see your opinion is plausible and mine is not. :rolleyes


Since we expect them to continue attacks beyond Iraq...THEN WHAT IN THE FUCK ARE WE DOING IN IRAQ? I was sold bill of goods that terrorism was why we fight in Iraq..it is the forefront of the wra on terror ,..bullshit

[xrayzebra]

All you liberals rest easy. It is all the Bush fault for invading
Iraq.

[George Gervin's Afro]

All you liberals rest easy. It is all the Bush fault for invading
Iraq.

At least you finally admit that Ray

[Oh, Gee!!]

How's the shoe feel now that it's on your foot. This is exactly what "liberals" have done on the war in Iraq. Ignored any positive and accentuated the negative.

you'd probably accuse me of being a "liberal," and am I not accentuating a positive story about the broader war on terror?


I say if we weren't in Iraq and Afghanistan, the bomb-maker in London may have been more competent and, unfortunately, might have succeeded.

Non sequitur

[Oh, Gee!!]

...and an earlier article (I can no longer find) that suggested the bomber hadn't reached his intended target but had abandoned the vehicle when he accidentally set the fuse to which I attribute my opinion of incompetent terrorist. That article also said the witnesses saw smoke coming from the vehicle when it crashed and was abandoned (suggesting he may have prematurely triggered the fuse or that some other malfunction occurred).

that's a good guess, but it seems premature to reach that conclusion.


I'm thinking if you're going to set off a car bomb, you're not going to want to draw attention to yourself as you place the device by driving erratically and driving into trash bins.

Why would someone who's about to explode himself (as you suggested was the case) be concerned with how his driving appeared to onlookers?


And, are you seriously arguing al Qaeda hasn't lost some of its best bomb makers and matyrs in Iraq and Afghanistan?

My comments have pretty much been limited to the fact that this is good news. I don't remember making mention of Al Queda or Iraq.

[Mr. Peabody]

you'd probably accuse me of being a "liberal," and am I not accentuating a positive story about the broader war on terror?


No, you are not accentuating....I mean yes, you are not not accentuating....oh geez. Forget it.

[Mr. Peabody]

Why would someone who's about to explode himself (as you suggested was the case) be concerned with how his driving appeared to onlookers.



Man, that's going to be people's last impression of you (unless they die in the bomb as well). You don't want to go out looking like an imbecile.

[Yonivore]

I see your opinion is plausible and mine is not. :rolleyes
See, once again, you've shot to the absolute. I never said your opinion wasn't plausible. I said it wasn't as plausible.

Wow, will you ever learn to quit mischaracterizing the words of others?


Since we expect them to continue attacks beyond Iraq...THEN WHAT IN THE FUCK ARE WE DOING IN IRAQ? I was sold bill of goods that terrorism was why we fight in Iraq..it is the forefront of the wra on terror ,..bullshit
I suggest you read the AUMF in Iraq for a refresher. You're welcome.

[Yonivore]

you'd probably accuse me of being a "liberal," and am I not accentuating a positive story about the broader war on terror?
Well, if it quacks like a duck.


Non sequitur
Non sequitur to what?

[Yonivore]

that's a good guess, but it seems premature to reach that conclusion.
Maybe, but hey, it's my guess.


Why would someone who's about to explode himself (as you suggested was the case) be concerned with how his driving appeared to onlookers?
I don't know. Maybe he chickened out. Maybe there's some eternal punishment for fucking up a mission and he decided he'd rather face a mad fellow terrorist than a pissed off Allah. How the fuck do I know what goes on in such a twisted psyche?

After all, these people think there's 72 virgins waiting for them if they kill a bunch of innocent people. You think there's anything logical in their reasoning?


My comments have pretty much been limited to the fact that this is good news. I don't remember making mention of Al Queda or Iraq.
It was lucky news.

My comment wasn't directed specifically at you but an effort to demonstrate this may be "good news" because of our efforts in the greater war on terror.

So, I made it better news. Sue me.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Maybe, but hey, it's my guess.

actually, that was the guess of the writer of the lost news article, but you never did have a problem accepting credit for other writers' words.


I don't know. Maybe he chickened out. Maybe there's some eternal punishment for fucking up a mission and he decided he'd rather face a mad fellow terrorist than a pissed off Allah. How the fuck do I know what goes on in such a twisted psyche?

But you were able to read his mind before. You knew he intended to crash his car into a building.

[Yonivore]

Oh gee, I get even more plausible than Oh, Gee!!

Terror Plot Involves Islamic Extremists; Police Have 'Crystal Clear' Picture of Suspect (http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/06/terror-plot-inv.html)


actually, that was the guess of the writer of the lost news article, but you never did have a problem accepting credit for other writers' words.
No, that was my guess based on what the article reported.


But you were able to read his mind before. You knew he intended to crash his into car into a building.
Where'd I say he intended to crash his car into a building?

[Yonivore]

British police have a "crystal clear" picture of the man who drove the bomb-rigged silver Mercedes outside a London nightclub, and officials tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com he bears "a close resemblance" to a man arrested by police in connection with another bomb plot but released for lack of evidence.
Continuing to treat terrorism like a law enforcement matter is going to get a bunch more people killed.

[Yonivore]

The car contained five or six propane and butane gas cylinders as well as 33 gallons of gasoline, all rigged to detonate with calls to two cell phones. Officials say the cell phones failed to initiate the explosions, even after each phone had been called twice.
More on their competency level.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Oh gee, I get even more plausible than Oh, Gee!!

since I've not tried to guess what happened or how it happened, I don't understand what your comment means.


Where'd I say he intended to crash his car into a building?

in this thread


Sounds like this is some newby who lit the fuse while he was driving down the street or was on a suicide mission with a defective bomb.

That's why we're fighting them over there...it's where their best and brightest are. You lefties think that just anybody can assemble a quality car bomb and drive themselves to paradise. Oh no, not true.

[Yonivore]

since I've not tried to guess what happened or how it happened, I don't understand what your comment means.
My apologies, it was George Gervin's Afro. You all read alike to me.


in this thread
I don't even see the word "building" in that quote. Yet another mischaracterization by Oh, Gee!!

It'd be nice if you'd quit muddying the issue with lies.