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Duff McCartney
12-07-2004, 12:45 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041207/ap_on_he_me/fit_monster_burger

Hardee's Monster Burger Creates Uproar

Mon Dec 6, 9:04 PM ET Health - AP


By JIM SUHR, AP Business Writer

ST. LOUIS - At 1,420 calories and 107 grams of fat, Hardee's Monster Thickburger couldn't escape notice in these diet-conscious times. Or the jabs of late-night talk show hosts.

Just a day after the Monster's rollout Nov. 15, Jay Leno quipped on "The Tonight Show" that the megaburger "actually comes in a little cardboard box shaped like a coffin." On David Letterman's "Late Show," an actor playing the chief of Hardee's corporate parent, CKE Restaurants Inc., in a sketch clutched his chest, then keeled over when asked of any health risks of a burger that size.


Media outlets from Japan, Spain, England, France and Australia have reported about the Monster.


"I don't think any of us anticipated anything like the media uproar we've seen," says Andy Puzder, the real president and CEO of California-based CKE.


But the word-of mouth advertising, coming on top of a new ad campaign, has had just the impact the company wanted. People have just had to try the Monster. All of it.


"You can certainly say it exceeded all my expectations," Puzder said of sales, although he declined to offer specifics.


The fuss is all about a super-supersized burger — two 1/3-pound slabs of all-Angus beef, four strips of bacon, three slices of cheese and mayonnaise on a buttered sesame seed bun. The sandwich alone sells for $5.49, or $7.09 with fries and a soda. The combo packs more calories and fat than most people should get in a day.


A Monster Thickburger bought by a reporter Monday at a St. Louis Hardee's was presented appealingly enough, wrapped neatly in light paper and standing a whopping 2 1/2 inches tall inside a box. But the double-pattied behemoth, bought as part of combo with French fries and a drink, stretched the mouth and stomach, too much for the reporter to absorb in one sitting.


Hardee's timing is interesting; McDonald's, Wendy's and other rival fast-food giants are offering salads and other lower-calorie fare. But Hardee's appears comfortable staking its future — at least near-term — on gargantuan burgers.


Hardee's already was offering five sandwiches with 1,000 calories or more, and eight overall that have more calories than what was once the big-burger standard — the 560-calorie Big Mac.


Still, the company has plenty of competition when it comes to big-calorie sandwiches. According to the corporate Web sites of the larger fast-food chains, the Double Quarter Pounder with cheese at McDonald's has 730 calories and 40 grams of fat, the Burger King Double Whopper with cheese (1,060 calories, 69 grams of fat), and the Wendy's Classic Triple with cheese (940 and 56).


"Not every product has to be aimed at the health-conscious," Puzder said, noting that since the introduction of the Thickburger family in April 2003, sales for the 2,067-restaurant chain have risen steadily.


Though CKE fell to a loss in the second-quarter ending Aug. 9 — given charges for settlement reserves and debt refinancing — the company said sales at its Hardee's and the Carl's Jr. chains rose in the four weeks ended Nov. 1 for the 17th straight reporting period.


Edwin Depke, 80, a retired box company worker who has long loved the Thickburgers, was won over by the Monster at a St. Louis Hardee's.


Calories schmalories, he said.


"They're big and thick, with all the trimmings," Depke said. "You don't have to worry about all bun and no meat."


"They're really good. Eat one, and you don't have to worry about another. It's a meal."





Still, many have questioned Hardee's approach at a time when airlines say America's growing waistlines are hurting their bottom lines, costing them more in fuel.

The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington-based advocate for nutrition and health, dubbed the Thickburgers "food porn," the Monster "the fast-food equivalent of a snuff film."

"At a time of rampant heart disease and obesity, it is the height of corporate irresponsibility for a major chain to peddle a 1,420-calorie sandwich," the center said.

Lighten up, others say.

"Let the food puritans say what they will," the Star Tribune of Minneapolis said in an editorial. "There's nothing really wrong with counting the occasional juicy burger among life's simple pleasures."

"The promotional campaign has relied so heavily on humor that it seems possible to take the Monster Thickburger itself as kind of a goof on the fast-food industry's belated and rather lame, lawsuit-driven trend toward healthier menu choices," the newspaper said, asking "does anyone who savors a good green salad really think McDonald's or Subway is the place to go?"

Chase Squires, a St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times reporter, tried the Monster Thickburger and found it "kind of mushy," opining in a column Nov. 23 that there were healthier food options. Holiday air travelers, he suggested, should go lighter on the airlines and "have a stick of butter instead. That has only 800 calories and 88 grams of fat. We could always wrap it in bacon."

Puzder has the stomach for such dissent.

"We want Hardee's to be known as the place for big, juicy, decadent burgers," he says. "Every time (comics or critics) come out with something, it helps us advance the impression of the brand. This all helps."

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Looks like this burger is causing a riot....I remember back in the day I ate at Hardees and they had a Monster Burger....but I'm not sure if it was the same one. It was pretty big and had a bunch of bacon, but the way it was isn't the same way it's described here.

baseline bum
12-07-2004, 02:01 AM
Man, y'all gotta try a double kingburger with bacon and egg from Fatburger. You can also get it with chili if you're so inclined.

Useruser666
12-07-2004, 10:11 AM
Little Hips has them all beat! If anyone knows what I'm talking about. They had a burger that was like a foot across and had a beef patty almost 3/4" thick. It had 10 slices of cheese and 12 pieces of bacon. It was $13 bucks too. I would say it would serve 4 nicely. Just on a whim I ate 3/4 of one for lunch one day. I didn't get to the rest until dinner of the next day. The cool part was the burger actually tasted good.

SpursWoman
12-07-2004, 10:27 AM
Damn.....that's a lot of meat :wow :wow






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Johnny_Blaze_47
12-07-2004, 10:28 AM
Danm you all, you're going to make me hit Chester's or something when I hit town this week.

bigzak25
12-07-2004, 10:40 AM
i want a milkshake, burger, and fries,

DAMN RIGHT...a supasize,

DAMN RIGHT...wit 2 apple pies,

don't keep me waitin, i'm gonna pull on da side...

gophergeorge
12-07-2004, 11:05 AM
"Makes me wanna go buy some condoms right now..."

JoeChalupa
12-07-2004, 11:12 AM
I'd eat it.

gophergeorge
12-07-2004, 11:38 AM
Joe,

We are talking about the burger, not Miss Simpson.... :)

Duff McCartney
12-07-2004, 11:42 AM
Man, y'all gotta try a double kingburger with bacon and egg from Fatburger. You can also get it with chili if you're so inclined.


I'm there....I'm always on the look out for the best burger...as I am on the lookout for the best wings ever. So far, Dominoes has everybody beat on the Wings, but still I've only been to a handful of places that serve buffalo wings.

JoeChalupa
12-07-2004, 12:36 PM
Joe,

We are talking about the burger, not Miss Simpson.... :)

No doubt! I'd rather wrap my hands around her burgers!

gophergeorge
12-07-2004, 12:58 PM
I had a double cheeseburger for lunch... just becuase of this thread... :)

SpursWoman
12-07-2004, 01:01 PM
That's what I decided to make for dinner... just because of this thread... :lol

Blood Dong
12-07-2004, 01:13 PM
Chesters=FAILED!

KEDA
12-07-2004, 01:40 PM
I'm there....I'm always on the look out for the best burger...as I am on the lookout for the best wings ever. So far, Dominoes has everybody beat on the Wings, but still I've only been to a handful of places that serve buffalo wings.


Domino's sucks




go try
Wing Stop- Lemon Pepper is the greatest thing ever, the Cajun is pretty good as well!

exstatic
12-07-2004, 02:32 PM
go try
Wing Stop- Lemon Pepper is the greatest thing ever, the Cajun is pretty good as well!

Word. I like the LP, the garlic-parmesan, and the teryaki.

bigzak25
12-07-2004, 02:45 PM
go try
Wing Stop- Lemon Pepper is the greatest thing ever, the Cajun is pretty good as well!

Word. I like the LP, the garlic-parmesan, and the teryaki.


i like hot.

Jimcs50
12-07-2004, 02:46 PM
I hate wings

tlongII
12-07-2004, 02:57 PM
It's no surprise that there are a lot of fat people in San Antonio.

bigzak25
12-07-2004, 03:00 PM
or smug old assholes form the northwest.....

(high fives another fat guy at work....takes trip to vending machine)

King
12-07-2004, 04:30 PM
http://snopes.com/photos/commercials/graphics/burger3.jpg

http://snopes.com/photos/commercials/graphics/burger4.jpg

http://snopes.com/photos/commercials/bigburger.asp#photo4

Useruser666
12-07-2004, 04:32 PM
That's about the size of the Little Hips ones. Well except the Hip's ones had more lettuce and onions and a little less beef.

JoeChalupa
12-07-2004, 04:48 PM
Because of Bill Cosby...I'm going to make bacon-burger dogs for dinner tonight.

T Park
12-07-2004, 05:13 PM
Longhorne Steakhouse

Chris Madrids

and In N Out are the best Ive been to.

Hardee's is damn good as well, there southwestern burger with onion rings bar b q sauce and cheese is good stuff.

Jimcs50
12-07-2004, 05:27 PM
Is Tip Top Cafe still around? I used to love their burgers.

AlamoSpursFan
12-07-2004, 07:34 PM
i want a milkshake, burger, and fries,

DAMN RIGHT...a supasize,

DAMN RIGHT...wit 2 apple pies,

don't keep me waitin, i'm gonna pull on da side...

http://load.pquinn.com/binaries/fries/

baseline bum
12-08-2004, 12:13 AM
Is Tip Top Cafe still around? I used to love their burgers.

It better freaking be for next time I get to SA. Their chicken fried steak is by far the best I've ever had. Considering that there was always a long-ass line to get in there at dinner time I'm guessing they're still open and still doing very well.

tlongII
12-08-2004, 09:41 AM
http://www.collegehumor.com/img/1/100_0944.w492.jpg

Typical San Antonian.

Johnny_Blaze_47
12-08-2004, 10:30 AM
http://www.collegehumor.com/img/1/100_0944.w492.jpg

Typical San Antonian.


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Typical Portlandian Who Posts On Spurs Forum.