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Thomas
07-05-2007, 12:37 PM
Why want most of the people see Brent Barry Traded?

The guy is important to the team in my opinion, he can play!

Sometimes he plays 10 minutes and has maybe 3 points, 1 rebound, 1 assist and that's it. But for me he's someone very important to this team.

Oh, Gee!!
07-05-2007, 12:39 PM
I suppose you like Beno too.

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-05-2007, 12:39 PM
3 points 1 rebound and 1 assist sucks.

Big P
07-05-2007, 12:41 PM
After a while, you need to let things go...yes he is a nice guy & good boost SOMETIMES(those times are getting fewer & farther between),this is a business..he is an expiring contract, & if you can turn Barry into a player that is going to help this team for the next 5+ years, its a no brainer, you trade him.

Oh, Gee!!
07-05-2007, 12:41 PM
I say we trade him for beer

angel_luv
07-05-2007, 12:42 PM
I want to keep Brent Barry here because:

1)He provides veteran leadership.
2) He and Erin are very involved in helping our community with their Run Walk etc
and 3) Brent is hilarious. The Tip Off Luncheon would not be nearly as awesome without him.

Oh, Gee!!
07-05-2007, 12:44 PM
I want to keep Brent Barry here because:

1)He provides veteran leadership.
2) He and Erin are very involved in helping our community with their Run Walk etc
and 3) Brent is hilarious. The Tip Off Luncheon would not be nearly as awesome without him.

those are all good reasons for keeping your grandma on life support a few more days, but not for keeping a player on your team

Obstructed_View
07-05-2007, 12:45 PM
Amazing how good he is at hitting shots when he isn't busy passing them up.

Compare his stats from his last couple of years in Seattle with his time here. That's enough for me. Thank him for his contributions and move him while he has value.

angel_luv
07-05-2007, 12:46 PM
those are all good reasons for keeping your grandma on life support a few more days, but not for keeping a player on your team


My grandma is dead. Brent Barry has brought back a little of the joy she added to my life and now you want to take him away too?

smeagol
07-05-2007, 12:49 PM
My grandma is dead. Brent Barry has brought back a little of the joy she added to my life and now you want to take him away too?
I see an appology coming . . .

Thomas
07-05-2007, 12:49 PM
I suppose you like Beno too.

Beno may be traded, But Barry must stay, I like his style!

angel_luv
07-05-2007, 12:50 PM
I see an appology coming . . .

I'm waiting. :lol

barbacoataco
07-05-2007, 12:51 PM
If the Spurs can trade Barry for someone valuable, or package him with Scola's rights, then they probably would. If they can't, then they will use him one more year as a 3-pt specialist, and then take advantage of his expiring contract next year.

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-05-2007, 12:52 PM
Beno may be traded, But Barry must stay, I like his style!
But he still sucks.

angel_luv
07-05-2007, 12:52 PM
Guess will have to wait. Am about to finish with work so will be away from computer. :)

Kori Ellis
07-05-2007, 12:53 PM
... he is an expiring contract, & if you can turn Barry into a player that is going to help this team for the next 5+ years, its a no brainer, you trade him.

:tu Even if you can trade him for a young player with potential, it's a no brainer. The Spurs have enough veteran wing players.

Angel - I would too be sad because of the tremendous work Erin has done in the San Antonio community. (However, I don't think Brent is hilarious)

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-05-2007, 12:55 PM
That expiring contract could attract some interest this year. I would not be surprised to see a trade involving Barry during the season.

duncan228
07-05-2007, 12:58 PM
Amazing how good he is at hitting shots when he isn't busy passing them up.

Compare his stats from his last couple of years in Seattle with his time here. That's enough for me. Thank him for his contributions and move him while he has value.

I have to agree.

I lived outside Seattle for years and saw lots of Sonics games.

I love Barry as a person, he is funny, he does great charity work.
And he does bring a lot to the locker room if not so much to the court anymore.

He has moments on the court but at some point you have to weigh it out.
His moments are too few and far between now.
It's time to get something back for him while we can.

Darkwaters
07-05-2007, 12:58 PM
I really don't mind having Brent Barry on the team. He is a good shooter (when hes not passing up open looks) and a nifty passer. He can definitely bring something to the floor everytime he steps out there. The problem is that while he is capable, he doesn't always step up. Hes too passive these days. His contract has value as it is expiring and his savvy leadership could help a young team. If the right trade comes along I am all for moving him, but if he spends another year on the team I'm not going to cry. He could be an asset at the deadline and might surprise us during the year like he did to start last season. All and all though, I think he is going to get in the way of the progress of a player like James White and so I'd probably be all for simply moving him and being done with it.

PM5K
07-05-2007, 01:07 PM
Reading this thread you'd think Brent Barry was the third WORST three point shooter in the league rather than the third BEST...

I got no problems with Brent except his age..

Twisted_Dawg
07-05-2007, 01:27 PM
Brent makes more than Bruce. If Bruce is injured do you want Brent playing Bruce's spot? Or would you rather have the $5.5 million that he is making be paid to say a young athletic Matt Barnes?

mowgli
07-05-2007, 01:30 PM
He's getting old. He has incredible bball smarts, but he looks like he can't keep up anymore. The dealbreaker is his ridiculous $5m salary.

Big P
07-05-2007, 01:30 PM
Barnes is an even bigger pipe dream than Nocioni.

Big P
07-05-2007, 01:31 PM
He's getting old. He has incredible bball smarts, but he looks like he can't keep up anymore. The dealbreaker is his ridiculous $5m salary.

Not really, because his $5.5 mil salary is expiring & alot of teams could have interest in an expiring contract.

Darkwaters
07-05-2007, 01:40 PM
He's getting old. He has incredible bball smarts, but he looks like he can't keep up anymore. The dealbreaker is his ridiculous $5m salary.

Ridiculous? You need to take a look around the league at what other players are making.

ploto
07-05-2007, 01:40 PM
I think the Spurs will now hold onto him and let his deal run out to lessen salary next summer.

mowgli
07-05-2007, 01:41 PM
^^ I just meant that he is no longer up to par with what he is being paid.

ploto
07-05-2007, 01:42 PM
Or would you rather have the $5.5 million that he is making be paid to say a young athletic Matt Barnes?
Duh... But I doubt those are the two options.

whottt
07-05-2007, 02:00 PM
If Michael Finley sucks as bad this year as he did last year...we're going to miss Barry. Miss him bigtime. And I am nervous about moving Beno and Barry...which seems to be whateveryone wnats to do.


As for the rest of it...Barry is getting up there in years, doesn't fit on this team, and I am sick of the way he can do no right with Spursfans...so if you can move him for a good player do it...

Anyone that thinks Barry for Duhon is a good trade, is on crack.

AFBlue
07-05-2007, 02:02 PM
IMO, he's the Spurs most valuable trade chip outside of the big 3.

He can shoot the ball, can play some PG, is a solid veteran, and has an expiring contract.

The Spurs can also afford to lose him, because Finley came back to be the "veteran shooter" for one more year. Assuming that the Spurs FO is smart enough to address a need (big 3/small-ball 4....a.k.a. Nocioni), Barry is dispensible.

Bottom Line: Barry is the most likely player to be traded because the Spurs can get the most back in return for him.

whottt
07-05-2007, 02:04 PM
Just so we're clear on this one last time...

Brent Barry was #1 in the NBA in true shooting PCT last season.
He lead the team in 3PT%, 2%, PPS, PPFGA, and adjusted FG%.


And he only scored a half a point less per game than Finley in less minutes.



Remember this when Finley starts playing like Steve Smith....as he was and is showing signs of doing.


And not only that, his contract comes off the books this season...

Unless we are getting a good player in return...it's a mistake to move Barry.

timvp
07-05-2007, 02:05 PM
The regular season matters.

whottt
07-05-2007, 02:06 PM
the finals don't matter

timvp
07-05-2007, 02:06 PM
Cavs in 5!

whottt
07-05-2007, 02:07 PM
[quote=timvp] Spurs will sweep[/waffle]

whottt
07-05-2007, 02:09 PM
Does anyone else remember when timvp was saying Beno should be ahead of Barry in the rotation...

I do.

yavozerb
07-05-2007, 02:10 PM
I like barry as well, just not for 5 mil.

timvp
07-05-2007, 02:10 PM
Does anyone else remember when timvp was saying Beno should be ahead of Barry in the rotation...

I do.

Link?


Does anyone else remember when I thought Shane Heal was an NBA player...

Yes.

whottt
07-05-2007, 02:12 PM
Link?

2004-2005. Throw in Devin for good measure....




Yes.

Does anyone remember when I was proven wrong for wanting to keep Heal because the Spurs won the title that season without him and their shooting was fine? If you do...get psychmeds.

AFBlue
07-05-2007, 02:24 PM
I like barry as well, just not for 5 mil.

IMO, how much $$$ Barry makes is what makes him an attractive trade piece to the Spurs.

Sure, the Spurs could trade someone like Finley, who is also a veteran shooter in the last year of his contract....but they could theoretically only get a $3-4M player in return.

Barry, on the other hand, can be swapped for a player making $6-7M...and players with that salary are more likely to be difference-makers.

So, I kinda like the fact that he's making $6M....

Obstructed_View
07-05-2007, 02:50 PM
I think the Spurs will now hold onto him and let his deal run out to lessen salary next summer.
At which point he's gone for nothing.

Soul_Patch
07-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Why want most of the people see Brent Barry Traded?

The guy is important to the team in my opinion, he can play!

Sometimes he plays 10 minutes and has maybe 3 points, 1 rebound, 1 assist and that's it. But for me he's someone very important to this team.


Signed,

Mrs. Barry

Borosai
07-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Summer 2008 ... FA Marathon.

yavozerb
07-05-2007, 03:06 PM
IMO, how much $$$ Barry makes is what makes him an attractive trade piece to the Spurs.

Sure, the Spurs could trade someone like Finley, who is also a veteran shooter in the last year of his contract....but they could theoretically only get a $3-4M player in return.

Barry, on the other hand, can be swapped for a player making $6-7M...and players with that salary are more likely to be difference-makers.

So, I kinda like the fact that he's making $6M....

agreed, as far as trade value: 1 yr left on contract, veteran with championship exp., play multiple positions, great 3pt shooter, and professional on and off the court!!

BeerIsGood!
07-05-2007, 03:14 PM
At which point he's gone for nothing.

I actually agree with Ploto to an extent - I think if they can't get something they see as a contributing role player for the future for him or in a trade involving him they keep him for his expiring contract and use the 5.5 mil and roster spot next offseason.

bdictjames
07-05-2007, 03:27 PM
He helps us in the regular season, and we all know that's what matters. :lol

ancestron
07-05-2007, 05:07 PM
Brent Barry is a very underrated playmaker. I wouldn't mind seeing him stick around another year.

SequSpur
07-05-2007, 05:37 PM
I want to keep Brent Barry here because:

1)He provides veteran leadership.
2) He and Erin are very involved in helping our community with their Run Walk etc
and 3) Brent is hilarious. The Tip Off Luncheon would not be nearly as awesome without him.

Is this a Club take? How in the hell does this crap relate to the scoreboard?

Isn't there an episode of Just for women on or something?

usckk
07-05-2007, 05:47 PM
Link?



Yes.

Hate to mention this too. But I remember TimVP was mad that the Spurs didn't sign Melvin Sanders because they were too cheap too?

bigFUNDAMENTAL
07-05-2007, 05:52 PM
i don't have any problems w/ Barry

JP le Requin
07-05-2007, 07:49 PM
i met him @ paris 2 hours ago..he signed my hat and when i said BACK TO BACk he said me NO!! only every 2 years....joking sure...

saschi
07-05-2007, 07:59 PM
As long as Pop stops putting him in during the 4th quarters I don't have a problem with him and his ending contract staying put. However the Vaughn/Barry duo was like an automatic 12-4 run by the other team half the time especially if he doesn't nail his first 3pt attempt.

Switchman
07-05-2007, 09:16 PM
Barry gots to go.

Please.