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MajorMike
07-07-2007, 12:04 PM
If San Antonio brings forward/center Luis Scola to the NBA, it might make Jackie Butler available in a trade.

Paxson also is pursuing veteran big men Chris Mihm and Joe Smith in free agency and is interested in acquiring the rights to Spanish league power forward Luis Scola from San Antonio.

The Bulls also have inquired about the availability of Spanish league power forward Luis Scola. The Spurs own the rights to Scola, 27, who averaged 17 points and 7.2 rebounds for Tau Ceramica, the same team for which Nocioni played.

The Bulls are also interested in acquiring the rights to Spanish league power forward Luis Scola from San Antonio. Nocioni is not likely to be involved in a trade to the Spurs. The Bulls may offer Duhon if he is not included in a larger deal.

Bruno
07-07-2007, 12:50 PM
http://www.elcorreodigital.com/alava/20070707/deportes/tau/scola-agotara-plazo-fija-20070707.html


Scola agotará el plazo que fija su contrato para buscar equipo en la NBA
El porteño tiene hasta el próximo día 15 para responder sobre su continuidad Sigue pendiente de un traspaso de derechos de los Spurs

07.07.07 -
C. PÉREZ DE ARRILUCEA

Luis Scola pide tiempo al Baskonia. Se esperaba que esta semana su continuidad en el TAU quedara aclarada de forma definitiva, pero la incertidumbre va a alargarse unas jornadas más. En concreto hasta el próximo día 15, domingo, fecha tope en la que debe dar una respuesta al club vitoriano respecto a una posible marcha a la NBA. Así lo estipula su contrato con el TAU. Es el margen de cortesía para que el ala-pívot albiceleste trate de cumplir su sueño, incumplido una y otra vez en los últimos años.

Pero conviene no prender la mecha de la alarma. A día de hoy, el porcentaje de posibilidades de que Luis Scola continúe como líder sobre el parqué de la nave baskonista es altísimo. Sin embargo, el capitán azulgrana quiere gastar los últimos cartuchos en vistas de lo que acontece al otro lado del Atlántico.

La NBA vive ahora sumida en la vorágine mercantil de renovaciones y canjes de jugadores no sujetos a contrato, los llamados agentes libres. Los contactos y comercios entre las franquicias se suceden durante estos días y ahí es donde puede materializarse la esperanza para Scola.

Los Spurs se lo piensan

Según ha podido saber este periódico, los San Antonio Spurs estudian varias operaciones en las que podrían traspasar los derechos de Scola, que detentan desde el 'draft' de 2002, a otro equipo. Sin embargo, el equipo rey de la mejor competición del mundo aún no ha materializado ninguno de estos movimientos pergeñados.

En un momento álgido en el que las transacciones y los acuerdos a dos o tres bandas se suceden aumentan las opciones de que los derechos de Scola cambien de manos. Pero para que tal situación se produzca, los Spurs deben mover ficha, algo que no han hecho en los últimos años ni para ofrecer al porteño un contrato que le permita para la cláusula de rescisión con el TAU ni para facilitarle la firma por otro equipo de la NBA. Para colmo, el vigente campeón estadounidense no tiene necesidad urgente de salir al mercado. Apenas prevé retoques en su plantilla y se centra en las renovaciones de varios de sus jugadores.

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-07-2007, 01:00 PM
We need a traslation!

Bruno
07-07-2007, 01:07 PM
^ this article says almost nothing.
Tau has given 2weeks for Socla to try to get a NBA contract. Scola's agent and Tau hoped to have an answer after the first one but the situation is still not defined. Scola will likely stays with Tau one more year even if he wants to play in nba.
Spurs are trying to trade Scola's right and are exploring a lot of trade options.

That's how me + babelfish have understood it.

Admidave50
07-07-2007, 01:31 PM
fuck the bulls, they donb't want to deal nocioni

MajorMike
07-07-2007, 06:46 PM
http://www.elcorreodigital.com/alava/20070707/deportes/tau/scola-agotara-plazo-fija-20070707.html



Scola agotará el plazo que fija su contrato para buscar equipo en la NBA
El porteño tiene hasta el próximo día 15 para responder sobre su continuidad Sigue pendiente de un traspaso de derechos de los Spurs

07.07.07 -
C. PÉREZ DE ARRILUCEA

Luis Scola pide tiempo al Baskonia. Se esperaba que esta semana su continuidad en el TAU quedara aclarada de forma definitiva, pero la incertidumbre va a alargarse unas jornadas más. En concreto hasta el próximo día 15, domingo,

La NBA vive ahora sumida en la vorágine mercantil de renovaciones y canjes de jugadores no sujetos a contrato, los llamados agentes libres. Los contactos y comercios entre las franquicias se suceden durante estos días y ahí es donde puede materializarse la esperanza para Scola.

Los Spurs se lo piensan

Según ha podido saber este periódico, los San Antonio Spurs estudian varias operaciones en las que podrían traspasar los derechos de Scola, que detentan desde el 'draft' de 2002, a otro equipo. Sin embargo, el equipo rey de la mejor competición del mundo aún no ha materializado ninguno de estos movimientos pergeñados.

En un momento álgido en el que las transacciones y los acuerdos a dos o tres bandas se suceden aumentan las opciones de que los derechos de Scola cambien de manos. Pero para que tal situación se produzca, los Spurs deben mover ficha, algo que no han hecho en los últimos años ni para ofrecer al porteño un contrato que le permita para la cláusula de rescisión con el TAU ni para facilitarle la firma por otro equipo de la NBA. Para colmo, el vigente campeón estadounidense no tiene necesidad urgente de salir al mercado. Apenas prevé retoques en su plantilla y se centra en las renovaciones de varios de sus jugadores.

Scola will exhaust the term that fixes his contract to look for team in the NBA
The of Buenos Aires one has until the next 15th to answer on his continuity It is still dependent on a transfer of rights of the Spurs [/B]

07.07.07-
C. PÉREZ OF ARRILUCEA

Luis Scola asks for time to the Baskonia. It was hoped that this week his continuity in the TAU should remain clarified of definitive form, but the suspense is going to lengthen a few days more. In particular until the next 15th, Sunday, deadline in the one that must give a response to the club vitoriano with regard to a possible march to the NBA. This way his contract stipulates it with the TAU. It is the complimentary margin so that the wing - centre albiceleste tries to fulfill his sleep, broken repeatedly in the last years.

But it is convenient not to light the wick of the alarm. To today, the percentage of possibilities that Luis Scola continues as leader on the parquet of the ship baskonista is the highest. Nevertheless, the captain azulgrana wants to spend the last cartridges in conference of what happens to another side of the Atlantic Ocean.

The NBA lives now plunged in the mercantile vorágine of renewals and swaps of players not subject to contract, the so-called free agents. The contacts and commerce between the franquicias happen during these days and there it are where one can materialize the hope for Scola.

The Spurs think it

As it could have been known this newspaper, San Antonio Spurs studies several operations in those who might penetrate the rights of Scola, which they hold from the 'draft' of 2002, to another team. Nevertheless, the team king of the best competition of the world still has not materialized any of these drafted movements.

In an icy moment in which the deals and the agreements to two or three bands happen they increase the options of which the rights of Scola change hands. But so that such a situation takes place, the Spurs must move card, something that they have not done in the last years nor to offer to the of Buenos Aires one a contract that it allows him for the clause of rescission with the TAU nor to facilitate to him the signature for another team of the NBA.

In addition, the current American champion does not have urgent need to go out to the market. Scarcely he foresees finishing touches in his staff and centres on the renewals of several of his players.

Dave McNulla
07-07-2007, 11:34 PM
Scola will exhaust the term that fixes his contract to look for team in the NBA
The of Buenos Aires one has until the next 15th to answer on his continuity It is still dependent on a transfer of rights of the Spurs [/B]

07.07.07-
C. PÉREZ OF ARRILUCEA

Luis Scola asks for time to the Baskonia. It was hoped that this week his continuity in the TAU should remain clarified of definitive form, but the suspense is going to lengthen a few days more. In particular until the next 15th, Sunday, deadline in the one that must give a response to the club vitoriano with regard to a possible march to the NBA. This way his contract stipulates it with the TAU. It is the complimentary margin so that the wing - centre albiceleste tries to fulfill his sleep, broken repeatedly in the last years.

But it is convenient not to light the wick of the alarm. To today, the percentage of possibilities that Luis Scola continues as leader on the parquet of the ship baskonista is the highest. Nevertheless, the captain azulgrana wants to spend the last cartridges in conference of what happens to another side of the Atlantic Ocean.

The NBA lives now plunged in the mercantile vorágine of renewals and swaps of players not subject to contract, the so-called free agents. The contacts and commerce between the franquicias happen during these days and there it are where one can materialize the hope for Scola.

The Spurs think it

As it could have been known this newspaper, San Antonio Spurs studies several operations in those who might penetrate the rights of Scola, which they hold from the 'draft' of 2002, to another team. Nevertheless, the team king of the best competition of the world still has not materialized any of these drafted movements.

In an icy moment in which the deals and the agreements to two or three bands happen they increase the options of which the rights of Scola change hands. But so that such a situation takes place, the Spurs must move card, something that they have not done in the last years nor to offer to the of Buenos Aires one a contract that it allows him for the clause of rescission with the TAU nor to facilitate to him the signature for another team of the NBA.

In addition, the current American champion does not have urgent need to go out to the market. Scarcely he foresees finishing touches in his staff and centres on the renewals of several of his players.reading that was nearly as hard as reading a william faulkner book. and says about as much.

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-07-2007, 11:37 PM
We need a fluent translator. No more babelfish talk!

MajorMike
07-08-2007, 01:38 AM
What??? You don't like my, 'not to light the wick of the alarm' translation?

Bruno
07-08-2007, 05:01 AM
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-070707bulls,1,3229956.story?coll=cs-bulls-headlines


The Bulls also have inquired about acquiring the rights to Spanish league power forward Luis Scola from the Spurs. Despite dangling point guard Chris Duhon, nothing is imminent.

SpursIndonesia
07-08-2007, 08:19 AM
Why in the hell the Bulls are so dang cheap in dealing for Scola ? I mean, their 1st rounder won't be all that high and i don't think Nocioni is ever on the table anyway.

Aggie Hoopsfan
07-08-2007, 11:21 AM
Why in the hell the Bulls are so dang cheap in dealing for Scola ? I mean, their 1st rounder won't be all that high and i don't think Nocioni is ever on the table anyway.

Have you ever negotiated anything in your life? You always start low. The Bulls aren't cheap, they're negotiating.

50 cent
07-08-2007, 11:58 AM
Why in the hell the Bulls are so dang cheap in dealing for Scola ? I mean, their 1st rounder won't be all that high and i don't think Nocioni is ever on the table anyway.
Because it doesn't look like the Spurs are ever going to get anything out of him regardless. Who knows if the Bulls could ever negotiate a buyout with Tau.

Scola is a huge risk that might not even be good if he were to play in the NBA. Spurs fans have terribly overrated this guy when nobody really knows if he could even be a role player in the NBA.

Dartherus
07-10-2007, 08:52 AM
Because it doesn't look like the Spurs are ever going to get anything out of him regardless. Who knows if the Bulls could ever negotiate a buyout with Tau.

Scola is a huge risk that might not even be good if he were to play in the NBA. Spurs fans have terribly overrated this guy when nobody really knows if he could even be a role player in the NBA.
overrated? an Euroleague superstar? perennial first team and MVP candidate season after season, more proven and greater stardom in Europe than what Oberto, Nocioni or Garbajosa got there?

What I see in this forum is how terribly underrated he is....come on, FO gives good money to useless junk like Bonner or Elson and fans say nothing, and don't want to give the same level of money to the the guy considered by experts the best player outside NBA?

MoSpur
07-10-2007, 09:27 AM
I for one think the Spurs should try to bring him over, but don't think they have room for him so they should try to package him and trade him.

waly.mg
07-10-2007, 02:10 PM
overrated? an Euroleague superstar? perennial first team and MVP candidate season after season, more proven and greater stardom in Europe than what Oberto, Nocioni or Garbajosa got there?

What I see in this forum is how terribly underrated he is....come on, FO gives good money to useless junk like Bonner or Elson and fans say nothing, and don't want to give the same level of money to the the guy considered by experts the best player outside NBA?

That´s Right

Scola were the best player in Europe when Toronto drafted Bargnani with the #1, so Scola value is at least a Top 5 in the NBA Draft

I Follow the Spurs and Scola since 1999 and i can say that Scola is Behind TD, the Best PF who can play in the Spurs since TD Era, yes Better than Horry, Malik Rose, and all the PF how were played in the Spurs

Really, he´s not Garnett, nor Jermaine, nor Nowitzki, Marion or Amare Stoudemire, and he can´t stop them, but who can stop them, only can slow them.

His Defense is not very good, is good, but in offense is a player like the bests of the league

Probably the Spurs never are going to pay the MLE for Him, but the spurs never are going to have a player like him, and the spurs are going to lost a really very good player

The Spurs have one 20 Million a year player, and two 10 millions player, the other are 3-4 millions players, players off Less than MLE

You can say: The Spurs don´t want to Pay Luxury tax, but if you have 3 players with 40 million, 20 millions for 9 players is not too much

You can say: The Spurs don´t want to pay 5 millions for a player, because they don´t want to pay Luxury Tax

But the real Value of Scola is 5-6 Millions a year or a MLE Player

Budkin
07-10-2007, 04:31 PM
Duhon is a piece of shit... that trade is laughable.

BacktoBasics
07-10-2007, 04:41 PM
That´s Right

Scola were the best player in Europe when Toronto drafted Bargnani with the #1, so Scola value is at least a Top 5 in the NBA Draft

Thats the most ridiculous statement I've heard all day. If he was valued as a top 5 pick he would have been moved a long time ago and offered a big enough contract to offset what he'd have to invest in his own buyout.

The man has marginal to little to shit trade value right now.

MoSpur
07-10-2007, 04:43 PM
I just want to see him in the NBA already to see what he can actually do. I don't care if its for the Spurs, Grizzlies, Bulls, or whoever.

wildbill2u
07-10-2007, 04:57 PM
People think this is only a two-way negotiation between the Spurs and another team or between the Spurs and Scola.

Actually this is a THREE WAY negotiation with each party having certain selfish goals (read as money).

1. Scola must be satisfied with his money (and perhaps with the team that takes him if it isn't the Spurs. I'm not so sure he'd jump to the NBA to play with Atlanta) after he pays for his multi-million dollar buy-out. Remember that Tau can throw plenty of competitive dollars at their star player. What would we do if this was Tim's option year?

2. The Spurs must be satisfied if they try to trade him this year as opposed to waiting til his buyout expires. Of course, they could get nothing if they wait and Scola signs another long term contract to stay in Europe.

3. Another team must be satisfied with paying the price to get Scola this year--which is going to have to be a $500,000 lump sum plus a sizeable salary or he won't jump PLUS satisfy the Spurs need to get what they think his rights are worth.

This is not a simple negotiation.

waly.mg
07-11-2007, 11:39 AM
Thats the most ridiculous statement I've heard all day. If he was valued as a top 5 pick he would have been moved a long time ago and offered a big enough contract to offset what he'd have to invest in his own buyout.

The man has marginal to little to shit trade value right now.

Do you saw the Olympics or when he played vs the NBA´s?

The same thing then everybody says now, sayed when Oberto signed with the Spurs

Undersized, High Risk, Poor Defense, Europe is not the NBA, etc, and Now is the Starting Center of the NBA Champions

If i´m wrong tell me, one free agent player who the Spurs signed for the MLE in the Last 5 years?

Rasho Nesterovic, and who more?

Buddy Holly
07-11-2007, 11:50 AM
So bottomline... Scola priced himself out?

Mr. Body
07-11-2007, 11:52 AM
So bottomline... Scola priced himself out?

No.

Bruno
07-12-2007, 04:39 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/story.asp?id=330635


The Bulls also have inquired about acquiring the rights to Spanish league forward Luis Scola from San Antonio. Scola’s window to exercise a contract buyout in Spain will expire soon.

http://www.post-trib.com/sports/465357,bulls.article



The Bulls also are among several teams that have inquired about forward Luis Scola, whom the San Antonio Spurs could move before he signs a long-term deal overseas.

"We've always liked (Scola), but you have to trade something to get him," Paxson said.

Bruno
07-12-2007, 04:44 AM
The Bulls also are among several teams that have inquired about forward Luis Scola

Bulls aren't the only team interested in Scola, there is a market for him.



"We've always liked (Scola), but you have to trade something to get him," Paxson said.

It likely means that Spurs won't trade his rights for craps. My guess is that Spurs should ask for Bulls 2008 first round pick.

waly.mg
07-12-2007, 11:27 AM
Bulls aren't the only team interested in Scola, there is a market for him.



It likely means that Spurs won't trade his rights for craps. My guess is that Spurs should ask for Bulls 2008 first round pick.

For the Bulls 1st Round Pick?

This Pick may be the 20th, No thanks, i choice Duhon Over a 1st Draft Pick

nkdlunch
07-12-2007, 11:44 AM
Duhon sucks. please God no.

Nocioni for Scola is actually a good deal for the Bulls.

waly.mg
07-12-2007, 12:06 PM
Check the Scola´s Stats in Japan World Championship

Argentina
http://usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/mwc_boxes/ARG.HTM

Argentina vs USA
http://usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_box9.html

All World Championship Stats
http://usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_stats_leaders.pdf

MoSpur
07-12-2007, 12:08 PM
Scola for Deng straight up. J/K.