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stxspurs
07-09-2007, 02:30 PM
even though we won the championship i think its gonna be hard to repeat if we dont pick some one up or bring over scola. i dont know about bonner..he did show some promise b4 he got hurt but ely and beno gots to go.....hell maybe even butler..i dont see anything special in him. damn just frustrated and needed to vent. hell with all the FA returning to there teams i dont know who else would help :pctoss :bang

lebomb
07-09-2007, 02:41 PM
If it aint broke dont fix it??

Kori Ellis
07-09-2007, 02:43 PM
I don't think they'll bring over Scola. But they'll probably continue to look to move Beno, Barry, Butler or anyone else that makes sense.

But don't expect anything major.

Fast Dunk
07-09-2007, 02:43 PM
Luck runs out.

If the elder Spurs were lucky last season they won't be the next.

Fabbs
07-09-2007, 02:44 PM
All i can say is maybe Butler is showing way more in practice then we know of. Elson gonna be much better his second year? He sure shows flashes and the Elson Haters can say what they want, the games he plays 20+ minutes they win. No it's not garbage time blowouts either. Stats like "shots altered" and "opposing guards decided not to drive since Spurs were not in small balls mode" are not recorded.

I am also not big on Bonner. I mean he seems okay, but NBA Champ winning playoff relatively large minutes? Naw. I hope we are wrong and he is able to assume this role. Oberto is fine as another forward or *center* vs smallball and slow teams. But lets face it, everything went right for the Spurs this year, Dallas getting eliminated, Phx with Poutamire getting himself tossed*. Browns Cavs playing an offensive strategy worse then 4 Dumb.

* no I'm not saying we would not have beaten Dallas and Phx had it come to that. As is the Spurs kicked their full squad ass in Gm 6.

But even with a 50-55 win season resting the geezers including Tim, if Horry Finley etc can flip the switch again and the Big 3 stay the same we can do this repeat.

Slinkyman
07-09-2007, 02:48 PM
Luck runs out.

If the elder Spurs were lucky last season they won't be the next.

This is a fucking weak ass attempt at trolling, "IF" the spurs were lucky last season? So you're not sure if the spurs were lucky or they were just the best damn team in the league? :lol :lol :lol

PM5K
07-09-2007, 02:49 PM
Busy polishing trophies...

Fast Dunk
07-09-2007, 02:50 PM
THEY WERE LUCKY I'm sure of that

Tippecanoe
07-09-2007, 02:50 PM
well, theres still that scola for duhon rumor. but i wouldnt count on it

samikeyp
07-09-2007, 02:51 PM
If the Cavs were lucky...they might have won a game. ;)

Solid D
07-09-2007, 02:52 PM
even though we won the championship i think its gonna be hard to repeat if we dont pick some one up or bring over scola. i dont know about bonner..he did show some promise b4 he got hurt but ely and beno gots to go.....hell maybe even butler..i dont see anything special in him. damn just frustrated and needed to vent. hell with all the FA returning to there teams i dont know who else would help :pctoss :bang

Ely hasn't been re-signed and is looking for work. It's pretty obvious that R.C. plans to keep the team intact for one more season. I guess if the right deal presented itself, the Spurs would make a move to trade one the 14 guys under contract. Otherwise, Spurs fans will have to deal with the drama that is Slot 15 and whether Matt Bonner will get more minutes than Robert Horry.

duncan228
07-09-2007, 02:52 PM
THEY WERE LUCKY I'm sure of that

A sweep isn't luck.

Unless you think we were lucky because we were up against a subpar team?

stxspurs
07-09-2007, 02:52 PM
Luck runs out.

If the elder Spurs were lucky last season they won't be the next.

I HOPE U ARE NOT SAYING THE SWEEP OVER CLEV WAS LUCK?????

i do think we may have had some breaks during the playoffs ....if spurs fans dont think so they are in denial. but i still think we would have won.

i dont expect anything major but just someone who can contribute more than, ely,bonner,vaugh,beno

Brutalis
07-09-2007, 02:55 PM
One thing is for sure, I'm not getting a rise out of Scola again. Screw the whole thing with that.

I'm looking at Ian now, and moving what Kori said. We need at least one more young guy with some kind of potential wearing the Spurs uni.

Fast Dunk
07-09-2007, 02:56 PM
I HOPE U ARE NOT SAYING THE SWEEP OVER CLEV WAS LUCK?????

i do think we may have had some breaks during the playoffs ....if spurs fans dont think so they are in denial. but i still think we would have won.

i dont expect anything major but just someone who can contribute more than, ely,bonner,vaugh,beno

No, it was luck that the Spurs made it that far becuase the Mavs got knocked out and that the league suspended the best 2 Suns players.

stxspurs
07-09-2007, 03:00 PM
if the mavs coulnt beat a 8th seed they were not gonna beat anyone else....suspension for one game hardly makes the series.....

but i can promise u this.....clev wouldnt have won against any western conf team...and thats a fact :clap

lebomb
07-09-2007, 03:01 PM
THEY WERE LUCKY I'm sure of that


I agree the Spurs got lucky and whooped Clevelands ass 4 straight times............... :lol :lol :lol :lol

Fabbs
07-09-2007, 03:02 PM
No, it was luck that the Spurs made it that far becuase the Mavs got knocked out and that the league suspended the best 2 Suns players. Game 6 trollie. Plus Phx did not suggest a rule change at the leagues summer meetings. :lol But Marc Ivaroni did quote that the Suns were reminded of this rule prior to the playoffs. :toast

To date none of the other contenders have made any major moves either.
So while there is plenty of time till the midseason trade deadline, today we are ready to defend.

Fast Dunk
07-09-2007, 03:03 PM
if the mavs coulnt beat a 8th seed they were not gonna beat anyone else....suspension for one game hardly makes the series.....

but i can promise u this.....clev wouldnt have won against any western conf team...and thats a fact :clap

Look, it's all about matchups, they didn't matchup well agaisnt GS but we all know they matchup real real good agaisnt the Spurs...

Fast Dunk
07-09-2007, 03:04 PM
Game 6 trollie. Plus Phx did not suggest a rule change at the leagues summer meetings. :lol But Marc Ivaroni did quote that the Suns were reminded of this rule prior to the playoffs. :toast

To date none of the other contenders have made any major moves either.
So while there is plenty of time till the midseason trade deadline, today we are ready to defend.

Once you are up 3-2 and having a close out game at home it;s hard to beat the odds, Game 5 was a huge factor for the fortunate Spurs.

lebomb
07-09-2007, 03:08 PM
Once you are up 3-2 and having a close out game at home it;s hard to beat the odds, Game 5 was a huge factor for the fortunate Spurs.

Doesnt matter.....if the Suns were SUPPOSEDLY better, they still would have won the series period.

lebomb
07-09-2007, 03:10 PM
Look, it's all about matchups, they didn't matchup well agaisnt GS but we all know they matchup real real good agaisnt the Spurs...


...........this is also BS.....because you or anyone else will NEVER know if Dallas would have beaten the Spurs. There is noway in hell anyone would know.

I would have put my money on a healthy Tim Duncan and Spurs team.

CosmicCowboy
07-09-2007, 03:10 PM
Once you are up 3-2 and having a close out game at home it;s hard to beat the odds, Game 5 was a huge factor for the fortunate Spurs.

And part of being up 3-2 was winning the first game at Phoenix with the Suns at full strength. Thats some weak bullshit even from a Cavs fan.

Darkwaters
07-09-2007, 03:14 PM
...........this is also BS.....because you or anyone else will NEVER know if Dallas would have beaten the Spurs. There is noway in hell anyone would know.

I would have put my money on a healthy Tim Duncan and Spurs team.

Agreed. The Mavs beat the Spurs the year before in a game 7 OT match when Tim Duncan was hobbled and hardly as capable as in the past. So to say that the Mavs would have been a slam dunk to whoop the Spurs is simply ignorant.

kyleo
07-09-2007, 03:15 PM
No, it was luck that the Spurs made it that far becuase the Mavs got knocked out and that the league suspended the best 2 Suns players.
Why do you watch sports if you're going to complain about things like this? Are the Spurs the first team in history to have things break their way? If people are seriously upset because there's a certain amount of chance involved in any sport, just stop watching.

King
07-09-2007, 03:21 PM
No, it was luck that the Spurs made it that far becuase the Mavs got knocked out and that the league suspended the best 2 Suns players.

Boris Diaw is one of the best 2 Suns players? What about that one two time MVP cat? He was still playing.

Bruno
07-09-2007, 03:24 PM
I don't get how you can be frustrated while the offseason hasn't really started.

How many trades have been done since the draft ? ZERO.

The real offseason start in two days and Sunday is the deadline to bring Scola in nba. If next monday, Spurs have done nothing, you could start being disapointed. Just wait one week before using this :pctoss or this :bang .

stxspurs
07-09-2007, 03:25 PM
whooo wicked burn....stay out cav troll :ihit

stxspurs
07-09-2007, 03:26 PM
very true bruno....thanks for reminding me!

LavaLamp
07-09-2007, 03:40 PM
There is no need for any asterisks, speculation or hand-wringing. The 2006-2007 Spurs were the best team in the playoffs. The results are just/correct... the best team in the playoffs won.

lebomb
07-09-2007, 03:58 PM
There is no need for any asterisks, speculation or hand-wringing. The 2006-2007 Spurs were the best team in the playoffs. The results are just/correct... the best team in the playoffs won.


Im stunned :dramaquee You arent fuckin with us are you?? A nice comment from a Suns fan??? :wtf

SAGambler
07-09-2007, 03:58 PM
THEY WERE LUCKY I'm sure of that

I guess it could be considered to be some kind of luck running into a one man team in the finals.

Oddsmakers had to be shitting all over themselves trying to figure out how to get someone, anyone to put money on the Cavs.

FromWayDowntown
07-09-2007, 04:02 PM
Even if the Spurs were just lucky, as a fan, I'll be happy with lucky again.

I don't think lucky gets you 57 wins or more in 7 consecutive seasons; I don't think lucky gets you to a point that over a stretch of 26 playoff series, only two franchises can say they've beaten you; and I don't think lucky is the thing that gets you to 3 titles in 5 years. But if others want to call it that, I'm cool with it. I'll be reminding myself of just how lucky we are when the 2007-08 season opens and we're watching the Spurs accept another round of championship rings and seeing another banner hung from the rafters.

Lucky like a champion, I guess.

spurster
07-09-2007, 04:05 PM
I don't think the Spurs have to do much. My main concern is aging swing players. It seems likely that at least one of Bowen, Finley, and Barry will substantially decline in playing ability. Father time can sometimes be temporarily delayed, but never permanently avoided. Hopefully, White or Williams can provide some help, but I don't think that is too likely.

A decent 3rd PG would be my next concern. Spurs will probably find someone in the bargain basement, with all that implies. Also, if that is one of your biggest concerns, there can't be too many holes to fill.

A front line of Duncan, Oberto, Horry, Elson, Bonner, and Butler is pretty good. Elson and Bonner should play better in their second year and provide some insurance against the elder Horry. I don't see any reason to bring in Scola except as trade material.

lotr1trekkie
07-09-2007, 04:07 PM
Kudos to Kyleo! I don't want to put Fast Dunk into a suicidal funk but I was a kid when Reed/Clyde/Pearl/Debush/Senator/Jackson had their time in the Sun. 35 years later the Knicks are still nowhere in sight of winning it all. The Cavs may not see final's waters ever again even if James stays past his current contract. What the Spurs have accomplished in this decade of free agency and salary caps is extraordinary. Finally, calling Duncan old is rediculous. He will be 31 until the end of next season and likely has 4 more great seasons in him since he doesn't rely on rim hanging dunks to make a ESPN hi-light reel. By the way, why is the finals loser hosting the Espy's instead of someone on the championship team?

SAGambler
07-09-2007, 04:15 PM
even though we won the championship i think its gonna be hard to repeat if we dont pick some one up or bring over scola. i dont know about bonner..he did show some promise b4 he got hurt but ely and beno gots to go.....hell maybe even butler..i dont see anything special in him. damn just frustrated and needed to vent. hell with all the FA returning to there teams i dont know who else would help :pctoss :bang

It's always hard to repeat. That's why so few teams have managed to pull it off. But just because you bring in someone new, doesn't mean the team suddenly gets better.

I rather like our chances with what we have. Guys who have played together for a while, and know the system.

I look for the Spurs to play along without any player playing too many minutes, and win around 55 games. Of course, the big thing is to keep the Big 3 as healthy as possible during the RS.

I actually look for Elson to up his game some this year, and I actually think fans will be surprised with Bonners contributions.

I also hope to see White come along over the summer and be able to contribute next season. And it would be great if Butler could somehow play up to his expectations when he was brought here.

The one place I think we could be a bit weak at is PG. I think it's time for Beno to either go, or play like he is capable of. Vaughn is fine for the few minutes he rests Tony, but I shiver to think that if Tony went down we would have to rely on him to run the offense.

But I doubt you are going to see any big trades out of the Spurs. Beno, Barry maybe. I suppose probably Ely is gone. But we aren't getting any big time player for them. We are going to battle with the same core we had.
Just Believe they can do it again.

manufor3
07-09-2007, 04:37 PM
Agreed. The Mavs beat the Spurs the year before in a game 7 OT match when Tim Duncan was hobbled and hardly as capable as in the past. So to say that the Mavs would have been a slam dunk to whoop the Spurs is simply ignorant.

Sooooooooooooooooooo True

mowgli
07-09-2007, 05:10 PM
Does anyone else get the feeling that aside from Horry, these will be the last paychecks for Barry and Finley also?

LavaLamp
07-09-2007, 05:17 PM
Im stunned :dramaquee You arent fuckin with us are you?? A nice comment from a Suns fan??? :wtf


Not messing with you. That's really how I see it.

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-09-2007, 05:18 PM
Those lucky 16-4 Spurs! :lol

ambchang
07-09-2007, 05:38 PM
Does every single thread, regardless of the original topic, have to turn into trolls coming in and talking about the suspension and/or Mavs getting kicked out of the 1st round? It's funny at first, and provided some entertainment, but after 12,000 times, it does start to get boring. And one would figure that Mavs and Suns fans wouldn't want to rehash their own embarrassment over and over again.
And no, I wouldn't read it if I knew it was going to turn into another pointless thread about trolls if the threat title wasn't about a topic I am geniunely interested in.

tmtcsc
07-09-2007, 09:17 PM
For the last time.....We were and still are better than the Suns. No luck needed. We beat them on their floor twice. Even w/o Amare and a no-factor in Diaw in game 5: We were down 16 and came back to win.

We beat Denver and Utah. Both of those teams would have beaten the Cavs. In fact, Cleveland would have struggled with any team in the West. We were nice enough and you were fortunate enough to be swept. No use in prolonging the agony.

But hey, be proud. Your sorry team is the best in the LEastern Conference.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-09-2007, 10:39 PM
THEY WERE LUCKY I'm sure of that

Hand on penis forum.

:rolleyes

Don't you get sick of coming in here with the weakest of takes? Don't you have something better to do with your sad life?

RuffnReadyOzStyle
07-09-2007, 10:43 PM
Even if the Spurs were just lucky, as a fan, I'll be happy with lucky again.

I don't think lucky gets you 57 wins or more in 7 consecutive seasons; I don't think lucky gets you to a point that over a stretch of 26 playoff series, only two franchises can say they've beaten you; and I don't think lucky is the thing that gets you to 3 titles in 5 years. But if others want to call it that, I'm cool with it. I'll be reminding myself of just how lucky we are when the 2007-08 season opens and we're watching the Spurs accept another round of championship rings and seeing another banner hung from the rafters.

Lucky like a champion, I guess.

PWNED. :D

Can we add this post to the conditions when people sign up? :lol

Darkwaters
07-09-2007, 10:59 PM
By the way, why is the finals loser hosting the Espy's instead of someone on the championship team?

Because he voted for himself like...a million times.

Udrihlooms
07-09-2007, 10:59 PM
Luck is always on the side of the strongest team... Can anyone tell me who's the strongest team last year??? :D

Gros Membres!
07-09-2007, 11:08 PM
I am a big fan of moving Barry's expiring contract to a team like Chicago in the East with fillers of Butler and/or Beno. I hope this happens and we begin to develop a nice wingman or defensive specialist.

But in my heart of hearts, I am skeptical anything of significance will go down.

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-09-2007, 11:19 PM
Because he voted for himself like...a million times.
:lol

gilmor
07-09-2007, 11:48 PM
Once you are up 3-2 and having a close out game at home it;s hard to beat the odds, Game 5 was a huge factor for the fortunate Spurs.

Are you a Mavs fan hiding behind the facade of a Cavs Fan..

Come on out.. No point talking hiding behind some bogus team fag..

stxspurs
07-12-2007, 11:39 PM
ok they make a move and totally fuck up and trade 2 quality trade baits for nothing....hell maybe the duhon trade wasnt a bad idea after all at least we would have gotten something?!..... :pctoss :bang :bang :bang :bang
ok maybe its part of a cleaver plan and we are going to get some sweet players to fill the roster spot.......................................yeah i doubt it too! :wtf

Mr. Body
07-12-2007, 11:51 PM
I laugh at myself for slamming the Duhon trade idea. "Never enrich a rival for nothing" I said. I had this notion that one should make people pay for your commodities. But I'm studying economics; what do I know?

Budkin
07-13-2007, 12:05 AM
Happy now?

dknights411
07-13-2007, 12:09 AM
"Be careful what you wish for" Forum

stxspurs
07-13-2007, 07:26 AM
no joke.....but at least he could of gone to the eastern conf......he will be back to bite us in the ass :donkey

Gros Membres!
07-13-2007, 09:11 AM
I would be very surprised if Scola ever makes it to the NBA. I've never believed Scola would be the savior of the Spurs but could have been a nice backup for TD. Same with Jackie.

Well, after cutting White and maybe dumping Beno maybe we can find a nice FA. I would rather do that than draft and make some kid a project so we all have to hear about how AWESOME he will be when he stop sucking or gets his chance.

Bring me Pietrus.