69 wins....Possible?

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Thats what the spurs are on pace for right now....I know Marcus Bryant thinks we need more ballas to win but what are the spurs chances everybody....

[ducks]

why not79?

[Manu20]

I will say 65 wins.

[ALVAREZ6]

Thats what the spurs are on pace for right now....I know Marcus Bryant thinks we need more ballas to win but what are the spurs chances everybody....
High hopes, Spurs not whatever how they finish, in crunch time in the play offs, they will be the best team in the west.

the Spurs are gonna win some more ringshttp://www.supergino.com/images/offcourt/oc33.jpg

[ZStomp]

All it takes is the Spurs to struggle for a few games...and lose some....before the thought of the near perfect season hits the fan....errr.....shit will hit the fan. :lol

[E20]

I'm saying 79.

[MannyIsGod]

hahaha.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

hey the lakers had a 67 win season didnt they?

[exstatic]

I've been on 65, I am still on 65, and I will remain on 65.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

ok thats fair enough

MY 500TH POST DUH DUH DUH DA!!!!!

[Nikos]

No. This team will not win 69 games.

[BronxCowboy]

Not likely, but it could happen. Keep in mind, though, that they still haven't played the T'wolves, the Suns, or a couple other pretty good teams.

[spursupporter]

i just hope at least top the entire nba

[whottt]

No. This team will not win 69 games.

Other big nut predictions by Nikos the gutsy:

The sun will rise tomorrow.
Lightning will not strike you as you read this.
You will probably not win 2 lotterys in your lifetime.

[Nikos]

The Spurs are incapable of winning 69 games. Hows that for you? Mr. "This team is special it can win 70 if healthy!" :rolleyes

[whottt]

The Red Sox will win the World Series




















in 2004[/Nikosstradamus]

[BronxCowboy]

The Spurs are incapable of winning 69 games. Hows that for you? Mr. "This team is special it can win 70 if healthy!" :rolleyes

They probably won't, but you're just being stupid now. Which teams are the Spurs supposed to be "incapable" of beating? The can hang with anybody in the league the way they're playing so far. True, it's unlikely that the will continue playing as well, but that fact that they have so far proves that, if healthy, they are CAPABLE of it.

[ALVAREZ6]

They probably won't, but you're just being stupid now. Which teams are the Spurs supposed to be "incapable" of beating? The can hang with anybody in the league the way they're playing so far. True, it's unlikely that the will continue playing as well, but that fact that they have so far proves that, if healthy, they are CAPABLE of it.


agreed

[Nikos]

This is already the best Spurs team I have seen.....it has it all......if healthy it can win 70....its not impossible......not likely.....but I think its possible....Certainly has the talent too....they are deep and loaded at every position........we will have to replace Jax clutch shooting....Parker can score....Manu is not really a clutch shooter who can hit open shots like Jax.............hopefully Barry can be the Jax.......STFU Nikos, how dare you use stats to determine how good players and teams are....your statistical rigidness keeps you from seeing that tony parker is already an elite PG, his defense is already better than any other pg and when he starts scoring....lookout.....he will be the best the league will see at pg.....and Ginobili is capable of carrying a franchise....you know even McGrady couldn't win 20 games as a leader of a team.....I bet Manu could do it...he won a gold medal you know and nearly beat a team of Hall of famers and a bunch of olympic all stars......he has the magical intagibles and imo can be as good as jason kidd............he plays like an MVP when given the freedom....but this team is so solid all around it does not matter...........as long as we get Jax like clutchness back from someone the title is a lock............God I wish Drob had this type of support and he could lead his team with over 70 wins every season............

[whottt]

This is already the best Spurs team I have seen.....it has it all......if healthy it can win 70....its not impossible......not likely.....but I think its possible....Certainly has the talent too....they are deep and loaded at every position........we will have to replace Jax clutch shooting....Parker can score....Manu is not really a clutch shooter who can hit open shots like Jax.............hopefully Barry can be the Jax.......STFU Nikos, how dare you use stats to determine how good players and teams are....your statistical rigidness keeps you from seeing that tony parker is already an elite PG, his defense is already better than any other pg and when he starts scoring....lookout.....he will be the best the league will see at pg.....and Ginobili is capable of carrying a franchise....you know even McGrady couldn't win 20 games as a leader of a team.....I bet Manu could do it...he won a gold medal you know and nearly beat a team of Hall of famers and a bunch of olympic all stars......he has the magical intagibles and imo can be as good as jason kidd............he plays like an MVP when given the freedom....but this team is so solid all around it does not matter...........as long as we get Jax like clutchness back from someone the title is a lock............God I wish Drob had this type of support and he could lead his team with over 70 wins every season............


Best take you have ever had.

[Nikos]

They probably won't, but you're just being stupid now. Which teams are the Spurs supposed to be "incapable" of beating? The can hang with anybody in the league the way they're playing so far. True, it's unlikely that the will continue playing as well, but that fact that they have so far proves that, if healthy, they are CAPABLE of it.

Whott suggested the team can win 70. And I am saying he is crazy. Jesus I hope I am wrong, but I don't see how someone can think this team could win 70 as of right now. If they started 60-8, maybe I could see it.

[whottt]

I never acted like it was a certainty, you said it was impossible....and you are wrong, it's not impossible yet.

And how's our offense doing anyway?


And don't forget the third T bitch.

[Nikos]

Offense is solid. Tied for 6th in the league with Miami.

Parker is getting better, but still is not hitting the three or getting to the line and converting much (his problem last season).

Manu's scoring continues to go down. He is scoring very efficiently, but he needs to have more "above average" scoring games going into the future. Otherwise he could be getting 13ppg like last season. The turnovers are a bit troublesome too.

Can't rely on this platoon system if you want to win 65+ and a title. But then again thats not the point. The idea is just to win the title.

70 is impossible. Healthy or not.

I want to see Ginobili and Parker get more consistent on offense for the entire 82 game season. They care capable of doing better. I hope they do.

[Manu20]

70 is impossible if they lose 13 or more games on the season.
I say 65 wins.

[whottt]

I thought you said we had to be a top 5 offensive team? And more importantly, I thought I said we would be...We are number 6 now, our 3 pt PCt is low compared to what we usually shoot...and Parker is just now getting it cranked up...So we will be top 5, and you contradict yourself.

But I agree we are probably not going to win 70, it doesn't take a whole lot of sac to say we won't.

And Drob would have won 70 games a year with this team...hater. You don't think sticking a Drob in his prime on this team would improve it just a tad :)

[Nikos]

I thought you said we had to be a top 5 offensive team? And more importantly, I thought I said we would be...We are number 6 now...and Paker is just now getting it cranked up...you contradict yourself.

Parker will crank up, but how much? His shooting % will go up obviously, but will he hit threes or get to the line? Will he make his FTs? If he doesnt then his 45% shooting is not efficient.

Oh, and as Parker increases his scoring, Manu likely becomes less efficient and consistent on offense. His all around game is nice, but there might be a time where he starts 'defering' and getting back to 13ppg of last season.

And yes the Spurs need to be a top 5 offensive team to win 65+.

For them to sustain this, Parker and or Ginobili need to pick up the scoring consistency. (Parker the efficiency, and Ginobili the consistency).

[whottt]

And I say what our guards do individually is not as important as what they do collectively, and collectively they are the best rotation in the N B A, already.

[slayermin]

We should wait until the Spurs are 36-5 before we start speculating on if they can win 69-70 games.

Tony looks like he is starting to get into a groove. That will make the Spurs almost unstoppable on offense. 36-5 is very attainable.

[Nikos]

They are good, but good enough? I would rather them be more consistent scorers before I proclaim as being the best in the NBA right now. They are up there collectively, but I think Parker and Ginobili need to be consistent for this team to be great.

[whottt]

No one is saying the Spurs will win 69 games...at least I'm not. Just speculating on the possibilities...and Nikos keeps strutting out here and acting like he is making a long shot prediction by saying we won't reach a win total only 3 teams in history have reached.

[Nikos]

and Nikos keeps strutting out here and acting like he is making a long shot prediction by saying we won't reach a win total only 3 teams in history have reached.

What I am saying is that the team cannot win 70. No chance IMO. Zero.

[whottt]

They are good, but good enough? I would rather them be more consistent scorers before I proclaim as being the best in the NBA right now. They are up there collectively, but I think Parker and Ginobili need to be consistent for this team to be great.

This isn't a guard or perimeter oriented team like the previous teams that have won 69 games have been...Any historical precedent for a 69 win team would not be a valid way of analyzing this teams chances.

It's not as important for individual guards to put up huge numbers on this team, this team has Tim Duncan. What's essential is a certain amount of production out of our back court...we'll get it..matter of fact we will probably not have enough minutes to go around for all the guards we do have. So, no the biggest obstacle for this team putting up that type of win total is not our offense or our guard play...it's health and fatigue and just plain desire to win that many. Open your eyes.

[Nikos]

It's not as important for individual guards to put up huge numbers on this team, this team has Tim Duncan. What's essential is a certain amount of production out of our back court...we'll get it..matter of fact we will probably not have enough minutes to go around for all the guards we do have. So, no the biggest obstacle for this team putting up those types of win totals is not our offense or our guard play...it's health and fatigue and just plain desire to win that many. Open your eyes.

If this team wants to become unstoppable, and win a title, and be considered one of the better champions of the recent NBA history, they need Parker and or Ginobili to become consistent and efficient scorers. Its simple really.

[Nikos]

Oh and before you go nuts, the Spurs can win a title without becoming a GREAT regular season team or Parker and Ginobili becoming all stars when the playoffs start.

But to be become a GREAT champion, one of the better ones of the past 15-20 years, they need the starting guards to become more consistent, and efficient scoring the basketball. Do you really think the team can be unstoppable with Parker and Ginobili playing nearly the same as last season?

Unstoppable as in winning 65 games and winning the title convincingly this season.

[whottt]

If this team wants to become unstoppable, and win a title, and be considered one of the better champions of the recent NBA history, they need Parker and or Ginobili to become consistent and efficient scorers. Its simple really.

They are pretty efficient scorers, even based on previous seasons...maybe not in terms of PPG, but in terms of shooting PCT...and Barry is ultra efficient, he's been the most efficient guard in the NBA at various times in the past. You are on crack if you think we are going to have a starting backcourt shoot 50% or something like that....

This team doesn't ask for big production out of any 1 guard so I don't know what you are expecting from them.

[Nikos]

You are on crack if you think we are going to have 2 guards shoot 50% or something like that.

Right now Manu is extremely efficient. He and Wade are at the top of the list in PPS for guards...actually I think even the NBA. Right up there with Shaq.

With Manu its consistency, limited turnovers, and finding ways to score 15+ more consistently. That way he does not defer too much and is used to scoring big when Parker, the support, or even Duncan might be off. So far so good earlier in the season. But he has been off a bit lately. But thats being a little picky. As a third option he has been awesome.

As far as Parker goes. I do not want him to shoot 50% per se. The problem as I said is he NEVER gets to the line for the frequency he drives the lane. Change that, he is in efficient as a FT shooter and attempter relative to his shot attempts. Also he does not hit three pointers.

Tell me who has been more efficient thus far this season? Parker who took 40+ more shots, but yet has 30 less points than Manu? Simple. Manu has been more efficient.

Does that mean anything? It just means Parker can do better. And he will. But HOW much is up to him. He needs to at least get back to the level of 0203 as far as scoring efficiency. Go check out his numbers, the amount of threes he took, and the fact he shot reasonable from the line. And you will understand what I mean by efficiency.

Better yet, look on basketball reference at the PSA stat.

[Nikos]

Oh and as for Barry......I expect him to pick up his efficiency a lot. Even though he won't take as many shots or use as many possesions as Parker or Manu.

[whottt]

Hell, Tony shot threes better as a 19 year old, I don't know why you are expecting his numbers to stay low...and the fact that they have been low to this point has not prevented us from getting off to the kind of start necessary for a historical win total. Technically, if he had been shooting better it would have just been gravy up to this point. Tony is a pretty effiicent scorer, about the only part of his scoring that isn't efficient is his FT shooting, so I'd just as soon he not be going to the line...not that he has control over that anyway, Tony gets jobbed by the refs frequently.

[smeagol]

But to be become a GREAT champion, one of the better ones of the past 15-20 years, they need the starting guards to become more consistent, and efficient scoring the basketball. Do you really think the team can be unstoppable with Parker and Ginobili playing nearly the same as last season?

Dude, we hear you, manu and parker . . . consistent.

So please tell us what consistent is:

You said you are OK with Manu being a 15 / 5 / 5 type player. Well, he is exactly that after 19 games. To me it sounds pretty consistent for a guy who plays 28 minutes and only shoots 8 -10 shots per game.

He only had two "bad" scoring games, where he scored 6 points. All 17 other games he scored in double figures with a number of games scoring +20 ppg.

So what else do you want from the guy. In this team, it will be difficult for him to score more than that. I know he is capable of averaging 18 ppg. But not in this Spurs team, where you have so many guys who score and where Manu is the third option.

Efficiency is not his problem right now. TOs . . . maybe. In all other departments, he is doing just fine.

And Tony, after a cold start, is beginning to feel the grove. His "efficiency" is going up. So for the Spurs to end up in the low 60s, even 65, is doable. To win more than 65 is going to be nearly impossible, but hey, stop being such a pessimistic fuck! :spin

[Nikos]

Technically, if he had been shooting better it would have just been gravy up to this point. Tony is a pretty effiicent scorer, about the only part of his scoring that isn't efficient is his FT shooting, so I'd just as soon he not be going to the line...not that he has control over that anyway, Tony gets jobbed by the refs frequently.

Tony is not nearly as efficient as he COULD be. He is a better shooter than this, and he can get to the line and convert better than he did last season and so far this season. 2002-03 was evidence. That was his best scoring year in terms of efficiency. Sure he lost a bit of that and gained some leadership, but he can still become more efficient and improve his PG/leadership skills as well. 2003-04 Playoff Games 1-6 are evidence of that. Problem is when Tony's shot is off he does not compensate by getting to the line or setting up others consistently. He is capable, but has not tapped into that potential yet.

Sure the team is winning. But it can only help for Parker and Ginobili to become more consistent and efficient on the offensive end. So far Manu has done a good job, but you wonder if he might be defering a bit or is not being as aggresive as he could be. He tends to be reckless when not in an offensive groove, moreso than usual.

I just want to see more consistency and confidence from them. I am sure, deep down inside you do too (as does everyone on this forum).

[Nikos]

And Tony, after a cold start, is beginning to feel the grove. His "efficiency" is going up. So for the Spurs to end up in the low 60s, even 65, is doable. To win more than 65 is going to be nearly impossible, but hey, stop being such a pessimistic fuck!

As I said, I am just worried about Manu defering too much and becoming less effective as a scorer. I mean his scoring is dropping daily, and his turnovers are even growing. I just do not want that to be a trend.

If we are talking third option, Manu is as good as anyone in the league right now. And as a second option he has even been solid. But I just do not like the fact he is content with scoring 6-8pts on some nights, and only putting up 7 or 8 shots.

[whottt]

You are fucked now Nikos...Smeagol has been unleashed upon your azzzzzzzzzzzzz. It's time you jump on the 65 win bandwagon.

[Nikos]

Smegma? :lol

[Brodels]

As I said, I am just worried about Manu defering too much and becoming less effective as a scorer. I mean his scoring is dropping daily, and his turnovers are even growing. I just do not want that to be a trend.

If we are talking third option, Manu is as good as anyone in the league right now. And as a second option he has even been solid. But I just do not like the fact he is content with scoring 6-8pts on some nights, and only putting up 7 or 8 shots.

I think you have a point. In the past, the Spurs have sometimes struggled because nobody could step up and reliably score when Tim Duncan played poorly. Parker stepped up some of the time, but he would also disappear for stretches. I think it's way to early to declare that Manu and Parker have magically found the consistency necessary for the Spurs to win 65 games and a title.

We know that Tony hasn't. It's not certain that Manu has. We'll simply have to wait and see. Has this team improved enough to survive a 4 for 12 shooting performance by Duncan in the playoffs? The next few months will reveal the answer to that.

[smeagol]

Sure I would like Manu to hit some more threes, or be little bit more aggressive (especially laytely). But, you tell me, how many third options who get 8-10 touches per night, score 15 ppg?

[smeagol]

Smegma? :lol

That's me! :smokin

[Brodels]

Sure I would like Manu to hit some more threes, or be little bit more aggressive (especially laytely). But, you tell me, how many third options who get 8-10 touches per night, score 15 ppg?

That's not the real question though. The question is this: can Parker and Manu provide that Kobe/Billups (to use the Lakers and Pistons example) perimeter threat when Tim struggles offensively? We know that they can both score points, but can they step up exactly when they are needed and take some of the pressure off of Duncan?

It didn't happen when it needed to in the playoffs last season. At least it didn't happen as much as it needed to. Teams are going to key in on Duncan. That's no surprise. Will Parker and Manu have the ability to do that in the playoffs? Consistency during the regular season will provide us some insight into the answer to that question. So we'll have to wait and see.

[Nikos]

Sure I would like Manu to hit some more threes, or be little bit more aggressive (especially laytely). But, you tell me, how many third options who get 8-10 touches per night, score 15 ppg?

That is NOT the argument. The point is Manu is settling himself into a third option. And if TP is the second option who is not scoring efficiently and consistently himself -- then we have a problem. Even if Manu scores well it probably won't matter, because he will see himself as the "third option".

Ideally I would like Manu and TP to share the role in some respects, with TP probably taking the more difficult shots with the shot clock winding down. But I do not like the way he cannot shoot the 3 lately, and does not get to the line.

Manu thus far has done his part and then some.

I just hope they can do well come playoff time. But they can attain a certain level of consistency and confidence, NOW int he regular season. They shouldn't have to guess who is going to fill what role in the playoffs. They should have the confidence going into it, that either can get 15-16pts efficiently in big games.

BTW -- if Duncan shoots 4-12, than it probably does not matter what Manu and TP do that much. Certaintly the Spurs won't be dominant if Duncan doesn't step up in nearly every big game. I think he underacheived a bit in the 04 Laker series -- REGARDLESS of perimeter players missing shots. It had something to do with it, but its not the sole reason for his subpar play.

[smeagol]

Agreed with Brodels. We will have to wait and see. I'm hopefull that Manu and Tony will be there when the Spurs will need them the most. Hope Barry will be there too.

[whottt]

Sorry to piss on all the connosieruship of fine offense within this thread but one has only to look at the 99-00 Lakers to see I am right and all who question me are wrong.

It most certainly is possible for us to win 69-70 games if our offense remains at this level and doesn't improve one iota. I'm not saying it's going to happen..because it probably won't but to be able to pinpoint the reason why as some kind of lack of consistency in our guards is false blame.

And Manu can pull the heat off of Duncan.

And I don't know what's so efficient about Kobe shooting 43-44% from the field in the playoffs...Derek Fisher shooting 50, 60,70% from three or guys like Rick Fox hitting at near 50% etc...I can see your point....but 43% is 43% I don't care how good he looks shooting it. And exactly what dominant big was Chauncy helping? Rasheed?

[Nikos]

And I don't know what's so efficient about Kobe shooting 43-44% from the field in the playoffs

Do not forget Kobe gets to the line alot. So that 43% is better than Caron Butler or Tony Parkers 43%. 2FTs is a nice thing to get.

[whottt]

Do not forget Kobe gets to the line alot. So that 43% is better than Caron Butler or Tony Parkers 43%. 2FTs is a nice thing to get.


Yeah well, dunno if you watched the finals but Kobe did a pretty fair job of shooting his team out of an NBA championship.

[smeagol]

Nikos, you are just a negative fvck.

Whottt, who's Raffy?

[Nikos]

Yeah well, dunno if you watched the finals but Kobe did a pretty fair job of shooting his team out of an NBA championship.

In the finals he didn't get to the line or hit threes. Therefore was inefficient. My point was that FG% is not neccesarily indiciatve of efficiency as Points Per Shot is.

[Nikos]

Nikos, you are just a negative fvck.

Thanks.

[whottt]

In the finals he didn't get to the line or hit threes. Therefore was inefficient. My point was that FG% is not neccesarily indiciatve of efficiency as Points Per Shot is.


Yeah well, getting to the line isn't always indicative of a players ability to be efficient either...sometimes they get help, and sometimes they get hindered.

[whottt]

Nikos, you are just a negative fvck.

Whottt, who's Raffy?


Rafael Palmeiro. My favorite active baseball player...Roid Free.

[smeagol]

Thanks.
You know me. I mean it in a nice way, dude.

[TheWriter]

Any kind of prediction is as useful as a bad orgasm.

[Nikos]

Yeah well, getting to the line isn't always indicative of a players ability to be efficient either...sometimes they get help, and sometimes they get hindered.

Its certainly a nice way to see who is efficient. Players who get to the line a lot and shoot a good % are ALWAYS reasonably efficient.

Sure they get help, but at some point you have to ask yourself, what really makes one player better than the other, or helps you distinguish between two players with similiar abilities and talents. Crawford seems more athletic than most Sgs in the entire league. He can score when hot with ANYONE. But he is inefficient. He NEVER gets to the line.

Point is efficiency is a nice indicator of a how well a player is scoring given their amount of shot attempts and role in the offense etc....

You get the idea. Its not the END ALL BE ALL, but it does tell a nice chunk of the story.

[whottt]

Its certainly a nice way to see who is efficient. Players who get to the line a lot and shoot a good % are ALWAYS reasonably efficient.

Sure they get help, but at some point you have to ask yourself, what really makes one player better than the other, or helps you distinguish between two players with similiar abilities and talents. Crawford seems more athletic than most Sgs in the entire league. He can score when hot with ANYONE. But he is inefficient. He NEVER gets to the line.

Point is efficiency is a nice indicator of a how well a player is scoring given their amount of shot attempts and role in the offense etc....

You get the idea. Its not the END ALL BE ALL, but it does tell a nice chunk of the story.

I'm not saying it's a bad stat...but don't try and tell me there are many guys that challenge interior d(the major key to getting to the FT line) as much as Manu does...including Kobe...maybe a few years ago Kobe did it often..but he doesn't do it as much as he used to...he doesn't do it as much as Manu does now IMO. Manu does it alot. AI does it more...but he knows he'll get the calls for doing it as well.

As for Parker...it's not really his game...doesn't mean he's not as efficient as some guy whose game is predicated on getting to the line.

Genrally speaking the longer a guy is around the more likely he is to get those types of calls, the flipside is, the longer a guy is around the less likely he is to want to do it...if he's a guard.

And Superstars get the calls...see AI. Parker does not get as many calls as he should, and Manu really doesn't. So I wouldn't judge their efficiency so much based on a stat that has such a large margin for human error as a FT derivative stat does.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

You guys are all on crack:

Look to win 70 games you dont need any of the following(lesson 1)
1) To be a top tier offense
2) To have an extreamly efficent backcourt
3) To have a player with KG numbers

What you need is a very,very, very large points differential.

Why you might ask? Well that is the best possible measurment of how your team stacks up against the opposition, it doesnt really matter if you cant score but 80 ppg as long as your opposition cant score but 60.

If you look at the Spurs' points differential of the last 7 games then yes if they keep that up 70 games is not a possibility, it is an absoultly set in stone, going to happen occurance.

[Nikos]

I am not disagreeing with Manu's ability to drive the lane and draw attention. As a matter of fact I think he gets to the line for about 50% of his FGA, which is awesome for a guard.

All I am saying is Manu may have shot .418 last year or whatever, but to the outside observer they would think he was inefficient on O. He wasn't, he had the highest PPS on the team. Does not mean he is better than Duncan, but it says for his shot attempts and role in the offense, he was more efficient at scoring the ball. This was mainly due to TDs FT shooting but thats another story. And obviously TD sucks the entire D in as well and gets easier shots for others etc....

There are many factors. But I like PSA/PPS better than pure FG%.

[Marcus Bryant]

Thats what the spurs are on pace for right now....I know Marcus Bryant thinks we need more ballas to win but what are the spurs chances everybody....



You're new here, aren't you?

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[Rummpd]

63 magic number, as Pop totally ices Duncan, Ginolbi after clinching 1st seed throughout.

Mark it down been on the nose win total = 2/3 last years!

MadDoc

[whottt]

Pop won't ice them down that much. He's a big beliver in momentum. He doesn't even like having too may days off at the AS break if the team is playing well.

You can't just start coasting going into the playoffs.

[smeagol]

Nikos, Manu has the best season average grades from Timvp's ranking system. Even better than TD.

He has to be doing something right . . .

And I hear you, he has to try to keep it up for 82 games and most importantly, the playoffs.

But don't start getting concerned about it. He will.

And the Spurs will go 65 - 17.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

You're new here, aren't you?

http://www.mattwalsh.com/twiki/pub/Main/ImageRotater/r2d2.jpg


Wow, the master of sarcasm misses the mark, he must be pretty slow

(i was pocking fun at myself for mis-interpreting you earlier)

[Marcus Bryant]

So nothing you post should be taken seriously. No prob, I was already operating under that assumption.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

great because no one takes anything you say seriously either, i guess its only right you would reciprocate.

[Marcus Bryant]

The only difference is I don't care. This is the problem with posters like you: you take yourself too seriously.

[ALVAREZ6]

Nikos, Manu has the best season average grades from Timvp's ranking system. Even better than TD.

He has to be doing something right . . .

And I hear you, he has to try to keep it up for 82 games and most importantly, the playoffs.

But don't start getting concerned about it. He will.

And the Spurs will go 65 - 17.


Tell that mofo

[RobinsontoDuncan]

The only difference is I don't care. This is the problem with posters like you: you take yourself too seriously.

if you honestly think i care about what someone 2,000 miles away thinks about me you dont read my posts very well marcus bryant, speaking of which you seem to take yourself pretty seriously though