Down goes a Senator

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

And apparently, he likes to pay women to go down on him. The DC madam's phone records have been released and Sen. David Vitter, R-La., has already apologized for his numbers being on the list.

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Lawmaker’s number on escort service list
Sen. Vitter apologizes for ‘a very serious sin in my past’
BREAKING NEWS
The Associated Press
Updated: 10:02 p.m. CT July 9, 2007

WASHINGTON - Sen. David Vitter, R-La., apologized Monday night for “a very serious sin in my past” after his telephone number appeared among those associated with an escort service operated by the so-called “D.C. Madam.”

Vitter’s spokesman, Joel Digrado, confirmed the statement in an e-mail sent to The Associated Press.

“This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible,” Vitter said in the statement. “Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there — with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way.”

The statement containing Vitter’s apology said his telephone number was on old phone records of Pamela Martin and Associates before he ran for the Senate.

Deborah Jeane Palfrey was accused in federal court of racketeering by running a prostitution ring that netted more than $2 million over 13 years, beginning in 1993. She contends, however, that her escort service, Pamela Martin and Associates, was a legitimate business.

Vitter, 46, a Republican in his first Senate term, was elected to the Senate in 2004. He represented Louisiana’s 1st Congressional District in the House from 1999 to 2004.

Vitter and his wife, Wendy, live in Metairie, La., with their four children.

Palfrey’s attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley, told the AP, “I’m stunned that someone would be apologizing for this already.” He said Palfrey had posted the names of her escort service’s clients online Monday, but he did not know whether Vitter’s name was among them.

The AP was unable to connect to Palfrey’s Web site Monday night.

Earlier this year Palfrey, 51, of Vallejo, Calif., asked the Supreme Court to delay the criminal case against her — a request the court denied in May. Her attorney had argued that it was unfair to proceed against Palfrey because her assets remain seized in a civil forfeiture case, meaning she lacks the money to hire an attorney of her choice.

Randall Tobias, a senior official in the State Department, resigned in April after ABC News confronted him about his use of the escort service. He admitted that he had hired women to come to his Washington condo and give him massages but denied that he had sex with the escorts.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19685977/

[Ocotillo]

This may be an asset in Louisiana.

[George Gervin's Afro]

In all honesty I think everyone deserves a second chance. There are some instances where this would not be ture however this guy made a mistake and has owned up to it. Of course had this been a dem we would have all of the righties on the board hammering democrats in general... I take the high road..

[Oh, Gee!!]

Maybe he just needed someone to talk to

[clambake]

crickets to the right

[George Gervin's Afro]

crickets to the right


Or maybe we should just make blanket claims about republicans in general because of Vitter's mistake?

[clambake]

I hear the answer from the right.

vitter is a closet liberal. It's the dems fault, again. Blame clinton.

[johnsmith]

I hear the answer from the right.

vitter is a closet liberal. It's the dems fault, again. Blame clinton.


No, the answer from the right is that this guy acknowledged that he was in the wrong, he has apologized to everyone including his wife and he has taken responsibility for his actions.


If a liberal would have done this, he would have denied it, made up an excuse, and then continued to win election after election.

[George Gervin's Afro]

No, the answer from the right is that this guy acknowledged that he was in the wrong, he has apologized to everyone including his wife and he has taken responsibility for his actions.


If a liberal would have done this, he would have denied it, made up an excuse, and then continued to win election after election.


And the blanket lib statements begin.... what took you so long john?

I notice that this guy is from the holier than thou party... the party of morals..

[clambake]

No, the answer from the right is that this guy acknowledged that he was in the wrong, he has apologized to everyone including his wife and he has taken responsibility for his actions.

Why would he do that? Oh yeah, he got caught. I wonder how many hookers we bought for this guy?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Asked by an interviewer in 2000 whether she could forgive her husband if she learned he'd had an extramarital affair, as Hillary Clinton and Bob Livingston's wife had done, Wendy Vitter told the Times-Picayune: "I'm a lot more like Lorena Bobbitt than Hillary. If he does something like that, I'm walking away with one thing, and it's not alimony, trust me."


http://bigheaddc.com/2007/07/10/sen-vitters-wife-said-shed-cut-off-his-penis-if-he-were-caught-cheating/

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/10/29/lousiana_race/index.html?pn=3

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

No, the answer from the right is that this guy acknowledged that he was in the wrong, he has apologized to everyone including his wife and he has taken responsibility for his actions.


If a liberal would have done this, he would have denied it, made up an excuse, and then continued to win election after election.

John, the whole thing with Vitter is the hypocrisy he shows when talking up "family values" and constitutional marriage amendments.



These programs have been shown to effectively reduce the risks of out-of-wedlock pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases by teaching teenagers that saving sex until marriage and remaining faithful afterwards is the best choice towards health and happiness.


http://vitter.senate.gov/?module=pressroom/pressitem&ID=76b86c7e-a51a-4d11-92e7-de11d999f313

http://www.vitter.senate.gov/forms/abstinenceLetter.pdf (PDF link to letter)

Hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

And if you say that he made his mistakes, did his penance and should be allowed to learn from those mistakes and better govern, then that needs to be afforded to everybody, regardless of party.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

http://www.vitter2004.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=20

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Mac Abrams
(504) 833-1163

Vitter Statement on Protecting the Sanctity of Marriage

“This is a real outrage. The Hollywood left is redefining the most basic institution in human history, and our two U.S. Senators won’t do anything about it.

We need a U.S. Senator who will stand up for Louisiana values, not Massachusetts’s values. I am the only Senate Candidate to coauthor the Federal Marriage Amendment; the only one fighting for its passage. I am the only candidate proposing changes to the senate rules to stop liberal obstructionists from preventing an up or down vote on issues like this, judges, energy, and on and on.” stated David Vitter.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

http://www.kenn.com/images/greco_vitters.jpg

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

And the blanket lib statements begin.... what took you so long john?

I notice that this guy is from the holier than thou party... the party of morals..

Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You guys act like he's the only one guilty and that the only guilty ones will be from the right side of the aisle.

When the smoke clears on this, neither side will be able to claim the moral high ground, and it's lame for you and clambake to try and come off righteous about it.

[Yonivore]

I think Vitter should resign in disgrace.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

So this guy had the balls to confess to his wife, his priest, and others in marriage counselling -- obviously doing what he thought was right to save his family, and then fights in Congress for the values of family and marriage that he worked so hard to save in his personal life, in spite of the pain it caused him and his wife, and now he's a hypocrite????





I don't follow the logic.....

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

So this guy had the balls to confess to his wife, his priest, and others in marriage counselling -- obviously doing what he thought was right to save his family, and then fights in Congress for the values of family and marriage that he worked so hard to save in his personal life, in spite of the pain it caused him and his wife, and now he's a hypocrit????

I don't follow the logic.....



And if you say that he made his mistakes, did his penance and should be allowed to learn from those mistakes and better govern, then that needs to be afforded to everybody, regardless of party.

[clambake]

Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You guys act like he's the only one guilty and that the only guilty ones will be from the right side of the aisle.

When the smoke clears on this, neither side will be able to claim the moral high ground, and it's lame for you and clambake to try and come off righteous about it.
It's not about left or right, Aggie. It's about a guy that preaches the sanctity of marriage and uses taxpayer money to get off.

Whatever I do in my glass house won't cost you a cent.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

So this guy had the balls to confess to his wife, his priest, and others in marriage counselling -- obviously doing what he thought was right to save his family, and then fights in Congress for the values of family and marriage that he worked so hard to save in his personal life, in spite of the pain it caused him and his wife, and now he's a hypocrite????





I don't follow the logic.....

But, as AHF said, "those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

Vitter lobbed many at infidelity, single-parent households, gay couples, etc.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Vitter took over the House seat held by former Rep. Robert Livingston, who nearly became the House speaker until his own extramarital affair became public. Livingston, a Republican, had been a vocal critic of President Clinton, whose affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky nearly ended his presidency.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

But, as AHF said, "those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

Vitter lobbed many at infidelity, single-parent households, gay couples, etc.

If he was a profligate at the time he attacked all that stuff, then I agree about the glass-house/hypocrite judgement. But It seems to me that he firmed up his own house after almost destroying it himself. Maybe that makes him even a little bit better able to discern the truth in the issues and fight for that truth.

As far as other people being afforded the same leniency/forgiveness -- that's fine. I guess you are talking about the other names on the list. But I would bet that some names on that list haven't "manned up" like this guy has in the past.


BTW --- this is the first time I've found myself sticking up for a lawmaker. :sick :shootme

I know nothing about this guy except the press blurb that was posted here. Being a congressman, chances are that he's a totally amoral fuck

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

If he was a profligate at the time he attacked all that stuff, then I agree about the glass-house/hypocrite judgement. But It seems to me that he firmed up his own house after almost destroying it himself. Maybe that makes him even a little bit better able to discern the truth in the issues and fight for that truth.

As far as other people being afforded the same leniency/forgiveness -- that's fine. I guess you are talking about the other names on the list. But I would bet that some names on that list haven't "manned up" like this guy has in the past.


BTW --- this is the first time I've found myself sticking up for a lawmaker. :sick :shootme

I know nothing about this guy except the press blurb that was posted here. Being a congressman, chances are that he's a totally amoral fuck

I'm not just talking about other names on the list specifically, but you summed up what I'm thinking. You can either have hypocrites or people who learn from their mistakes (but still pay their respective consequences), but again, that needs to be afforded to everybody if we so choose.

[Oh, Gee!!]

bush needs to commute the madam's prison sentence before she starts dropping dimes on half of his admin.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I've seen it mentioned online (and take it for what its worth since I'm not providing a link).



“I think Livingston’s stepping down makes a very powerful argument that Clinton should resign as well and move beyond this mess,”

-David Vitter, comments of Rep. Bob Livingston (R-LA), who “abruptly resigned after disclosures of numerous affairs” in 1998.


Vitter apparently withdrew from the Louisiana governor's race in 2002 citing marital issues.

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/10/29/lousiana_race/index.html?pn=3

[xrayzebra]

I did not have sex with that woman.

It was just a blow-job. (dems excuse for I didn't have sex with
that woman)


I am still trying to figure out how you can talk on the phone
and talk coherently and have someone performing oral sex.

The Senator screwed up (pardon the pun). At least he hasn't lied
about it. And he isn't the President, yet. But obviously he
is working on his qualifications to be a Dimm-o-craptic
candidate. You know like JFK, LBJ and Good Old Bill.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I did not have sex with that woman.

It was just a blow-job. (dems excuse for I didn't have sex with
that woman)


I am still trying to figure out how you can talk on the phone
and talk coherently and have someone performing oral sex.

The Senator screwed up (pardon the pun). At least he hasn't lied
about it. And he isn't the President, yet. But obviously he
is working on his qualifications to be a Dimm-o-craptic
candidate. You know like JFK, LBJ and Good Old Bill.

those all good points and worthy of serious discussion, Xray.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

The Senator screwed up (pardon the pun). At least he hasn't lied
about it. And he isn't the President, yet.

No, he just stood in moral judgment of the rest of America while he paid a woman not his wife to perform sexual acts with him.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

At least Yoni summed up his argument and from the little I read of his posts, he seems to be consistent with his statement in this thread.

Xray just nailed the talking point home like Vlad Guerrero.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You guys act like he's the only one guilty and that the only guilty ones will be from the right side of the aisle.

When the smoke clears on this, neither side will be able to claim the moral high ground, and it's lame for you and clambake to try and come off righteous about it.


No don't get me wrong I agree with you. Both sides have thier own mistakes and issues they must deal with.

[PixelPusher]

“This is a real outrage. The Hollywood left is redefining the most basic institution in human history, and our two U.S. Senators won’t do anything about it.

We need a U.S. Senator who will stand up for Louisiana values, not Massachusetts’s values. I am the only Senate Candidate to coauthor the Federal Marriage Amendment; the only one fighting for its passage. I am the only candidate proposing changes to the senate rules to stop liberal obstructionists from preventing an up or down vote on issues like this, judges, energy, and on and on.” stated David Vitter.
Ironic, since Louisiana has a higher divorce rate than Massachussetts.

[Oh, Gee!!]

live by the sword, die by the sword

[judaspriestess]

The revelation of Hustler's involvement is not without irony. Vitter joined Congress by winning a House seat vacated by former Rep. Bob Livingston, R-La., in 1999. Livingston, a chief accuser of former President Bill Clinton during his Monica Lewinsky sex scandal, was forced to step down after Hustler magazine threatened to publish evidence of his own marital infidelity, which he admitted upon his resignation.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/07/hustler-call-pr.html


whats good for the goose is good for the gander. You should practice what you preach.

[smeagol]

I did not have sex with that woman.

It was just a blow-job. (dems excuse for I didn't have sex with
that woman)


I am still trying to figure out how you can talk on the phone
and talk coherently and have someone performing oral sex.

The Senator screwed up (pardon the pun). At least he hasn't lied
about it. And he isn't the President, yet. But obviously he
is working on his qualifications to be a Dimm-o-craptic
candidate. You know like JFK, LBJ and Good Old Bill.

Please try for once to defend the Repubs without attacking Clinton

[Wild Cobra]

Please try for once to defend the Repubs without attacking Clinton
Are you against Ray showing the hypocrisy? Democrats argued it didn't matter. It was personal. Isn't a republicans personal life personal too?

Like Ray said, he didn't lie. Plus, he came clean with his wife long before this came public!

[clambake]

Are you against Ray showing the hypocrisy? Democrats argued it didn't matter. It was personal. Isn't a republicans personal life personal too?

Like Ray said, he didn't lie. Plus, he came clean with his wife long before this came public!
We paid for his illegal endeavor, over and over and over, while he gave speeches on morality. He broke the law, cheated on his wife and family, and we paid for his hookers.

[Ocotillo]

When it rains, it pours.......Louisiana style (http://blog.nola.com/updates/2007/07/madam_vitter_a_client_at_canal.html)

U.S. Senator David Vitter visited a Canal Street brothel several times beginning in the mid-1990s, paying $300 per hour for services at the bordello after he met the madam at a fishing rodeo that included prostitutes and other politicians, according to Jeanette Maier, the "Canal Street Madam" whose operation was shut down by a federal investigators in 2001.

http://blog.nola.com/updates/2007/07/medium_brothel7.jpg
Jeanette Maier, 47, ran a Canal Street brothel where she said Sen. David Vitter was a client.

[Nbadan]

Looks like Larry Flynt could be responsible for taking down Vitter...


BATON ROUGE - Hustler magazine has called a press conference for late this afternoon in California to talk about the scandal involving U.S. Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana.

Hustler magazine editor Larry Flynt claimed credit Tuesday afternoon for forcing Vitter to release a highly unusual acknowledgment that his phone number was among 15,000 posted online Monday by accused Washington prostitution ringleader Deborah Jeane Palfrey.

snip/

"Given Vitter's strong Christian message and family values campaigning, this has to constitute the most serious and weighty challenge to his continued effectiveness as a United States senator. I think there's a strong chance he's not going to survive this," Cross said.

Vitter "did the proper thing politically," said pollster Bernie Pinsonat of Baton Rouge. "The smartest thing is to confess and say you've repented and changed your life around. If this is all there is to it, since the election is three years from now, there's a pretty good chance he can overcome it."

"This could be the end of it, or it could be a nightmare - sort of Chinese water torture - as he waits for it to be over," Pinsonat said.

The Rev. Billy McCormack of University Baptist Church, leader of the Louisiana Christian Coalition, said Christians likely would forgive Vitter, a champion of family values.

"Senator Vitter has apologized for his indiscretion and his sins," McCormack said. "Senator Vitter may well be much more able as a senator now than before because people tend to learn from their mistakes when they are responsible. I will continue to support him fervently."

Linky (http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS01/707110301)

[exstatic]

bush needs to commute the madam's prison sentence before she starts dropping dimes on half of his admin.
Oh, snap.
:elephant

[xrayzebra]

live by the sword, die by the sword


Here you go.


http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z273/xrayzebra/pious.jpg


Read all about your dimm-o-craps who are getting
religion.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1642649,00.html

[George Gervin's Afro]

Here you go.


http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z273/xrayzebra/pious.jpg


Read all about your dimm-o-craps who are getting
religion.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1642649,00.html


Well if any of those folks pays someone to have sex with them then we can discuss their situation ray. Until then can we stick the christian Republican Senator from louisiana?

[Oh, Gee!!]

Read all about your dimm-o-craps who are getting
religion.

thanks for your relevant and timely post, Xray. You're a valued member of the team, and your input is important to all of here in the political forum.

[clambake]

Well if any of those folks pays someone to have sex with them then we can discuss their situation ray. Until then can we stick the christian Republican Senator from louisiana?

Ray is just happy to see them praying for Vitter.

Ray's very religious, you know. When Ray was a kid, he helped nail some guy to a cross.